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Cloud AI vs. Local AI: What’s Best for Patent Attorneys?video recording
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This episode dives into a thought-provoking discussion about "Cloud AI vs. Local AI" inspired by a recent debate I had in the LinkedIn comments. I explore the different perspectives and insights from that conversation, and unpack the key pros and cons of cloud AI vs. local AI for patent drafting.
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @chengzhouwang9729
    @chengzhouwang9729 День тому

    Best, I like your video about patent drafting using AI. I am about to try out Rowan patent based on your video, and I think I will like it very much. I have seen many new AI tools poping out, like patentpal, patent.ninja, powerpatent, IPauthor, ...etc. Maybe you can take a look at those tools too...

  • @firstime
    @firstime 11 днів тому

    Hi, any AI tool for drawing? In addition, in the claims, should I include some indefinite term, like the shape is various depending on the function, just need definition term, like the shape is a circle?

  • @xniyazi
    @xniyazi 20 днів тому

    Thnx

  • @Flizzzx
    @Flizzzx 23 дні тому

    Der Bre hat Denglisch erfunden

  • @dhruvsharma2684
    @dhruvsharma2684 Місяць тому

    Pretty insightful, Bastian. Summarising the claim into a flowchart is really helpful.

  • @DavidG2P
    @DavidG2P Місяць тому

    Nothing beats the "one chat per case" approach aka co-drafting in constant dialog with the AI colleague👍

  • @DavidG2P
    @DavidG2P Місяць тому

    NotebokLM. Easily chat with a file of 5000 pages or more. Edit: there, you mentioned it.

  • @xniyazi
    @xniyazi Місяць тому

    thnx

  • @spx0
    @spx0 Місяць тому

    Yes, keeping it pending is super powerful, how much time could we keep it pending ? Strategies to do it at the cheapest cost ?

  • @mnelson823
    @mnelson823 Місяць тому

    But, for example, a lot of software reuses code that is already written. so if this code is copyrighted, and even if it's not the full code but snippets or portions of the code exactly as it is written is being used by someone else from a copyright code - it would be protected, yes?

  • @mnelson823
    @mnelson823 Місяць тому

    but Rowan is designed for US patents.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      That's true, but you can create your own patent application templates. I'm currently refining my own template which adheres to my European-style drafting.

  • @alexanderparker2921
    @alexanderparker2921 Місяць тому

    This is an AI podcast, crazy

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      That's what I thought, too, when I first listened to it :)

  • @Dremth
    @Dremth Місяць тому

    Yeah, except if non-software patents worked that way, then the patent of a light bulb would mean that making a campfire infringes the patent. Software patents are idiocy. The patent is supposed to protect the method of achieving an outcome, not the outcome itself, and when you apply that to software in that way, it does the opposite of what patents are intended to do.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      I don’t understand your campfire analogy. I always find it helpful to look at the patent claims to understand exactly what’s protected before judging a patent.

  • @R391s
    @R391s Місяць тому

    Would be fun to use this tool to prepare for oral proceedings and let it develop scenarios...

  • @R391s
    @R391s Місяць тому

    See Bastian, this is why, at least in a near future, patent attorneys (and patent examiners) will not be rendered superfluous. This tools will just enhance "productivity" as your role will be to refine the draft and not to start from scratch...

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      I guess you're right. I recently read a great article saying that LLMs "are not concerned with the truth", which I found very fitting. They are just next token guessing machines. They produce text (or spoken words in the podcast use case) that sounds very compelling. Whether the facts are true or not is of no concern for the AI.

  • @gretewitten2539
    @gretewitten2539 2 місяці тому

    Anthropic, die Macher von Claude sind vermutlich auch sehr interessant.

  • @Colakugel
    @Colakugel 2 місяці тому

    Will be an interesting patent with AR glasses, pointing to things of interest.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 2 місяці тому

      True. Once we have these models seamlessly available in our wearables, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

  • @joachimzayana1744
    @joachimzayana1744 2 місяці тому

    Tesla, XAI, unsure they published any but would be interested if they do

  • @AnneCarolineLeopoldo
    @AnneCarolineLeopoldo 2 місяці тому

    👋

  • @ArunachalamArunachalam-u7u
    @ArunachalamArunachalam-u7u 2 місяці тому

    Do you work on US patents as well?. I am in need of creating a provisional patent for a young startup that is US based. Wondering if you can help us?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      Generally yes, but I'd suggest you better engage a US patent attorney for that. Reach out by email if you need a recommendation.

  • @R391s
    @R391s 2 місяці тому

    G10L 15:) Funny as a lot of language models now used in AI have initially been designed for speech recognition (G10L15/22)

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely. Think about LSTM, for instance. As far as I know, Alexa is based on LSTM.

  • @babusd
    @babusd 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Bastian. Couple of questions - if i use groqcloud , will it amount to violating data privacy ? I can not afford to deploy vicuna or llama in private cloud . But i want to ensure data privacy concerns of users . How to fix this problem ? - when are you going to conduct the seminar . I am looking forward to it . Very informative session. Thanks Dharani

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the nice words! I haven't tried groqcloud, so can't comment on that. Depends on their privacy policy, I guess...

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 2 місяці тому

      I'm currently revising the seminar contents. Expect an update soon!

  • @VikrantSingh-se2zb
    @VikrantSingh-se2zb 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for demonstrative insights.😮

  • @DraftHero
    @DraftHero 4 місяці тому

    Very helpful videos. Thank you. Do you have any recommendations for tools to help draft design patents?

  • @blueage3674
    @blueage3674 4 місяці тому

    To the USPTO do you have to disclose to the patent office the patent application was assisted by AI?

    • @bobwatson1895
      @bobwatson1895 4 місяці тому

      I was wondering this exact question

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 2 місяці тому

      That's an interesting question indeed. I discussed this with my LinkedIn network. See the discussion thread here: www.linkedin.com/posts/bastianbest_question-in-my-youtube-comments-do-you-activity-7233699713638662144-jHhN?

  • @microponics2695
    @microponics2695 5 місяців тому

    link to the prompts?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice Місяць тому

      My prompt library is currently offline for an overhaul. But I've just launched the first one in a series of online courses on gen AI fpr patent drafting. Maybe that's helpful: powerclaim.io/course-overview/

  • @BlindArcher0000
    @BlindArcher0000 5 місяців тому

    this garbage installs itself on a system volume without any prompt or option to change the destination🤬

  • @mickxpz
    @mickxpz 5 місяців тому

    Hi, a very useful discussion indeed. Thank you. About the idea of obtaining copies of the source code to prove infringement, of course the patentee's tech guys will have to review this to understand the internal functioning of the computer, before it is possible to prove there is infringement. Do you have a rough idea of how long it would take the tech guys to do that? Obviously it depends on different factors, like the complexity of the software (and the amount of code) and the technology of the application. But would you say this time is to be measured in days, weeks or months of manhours?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      Maybe weeks on average. But of course every project is different. I once had a project where we were mapping several GitHub repos against a whole portfolio of patents. Took months.

  • @odiedancer4168
    @odiedancer4168 5 місяців тому

    How can you be reached?

  • @alexandrevaliquette3883
    @alexandrevaliquette3883 6 місяців тому

    It would be nice to draft a PPA on USPTO. Some minor adjustment would be required. Not too much for a real patent, but a diy PPA, I will give it a go for sure.

  • @lemnisgate8809
    @lemnisgate8809 7 місяців тому

    If ai created content isn’t protectable under patent trademark and copyright law wouldn’t this pose the same problem?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      What do you mean exactly?

    • @lemnisgate8809
      @lemnisgate8809 5 місяців тому

      @@beyondbestpractice concerning a beautiful piece of fine art the US government has ruled it can't be copyrighted because it's too much “machine” and not enough “human.” An award-winning piece of AI art cannot be copyrighted, the US Copyright Office has ruled. Following this line of reasoning if an ai program writes a patent a trademark a novel etc would it not be considered in the same light, the machine did it not the human, I’d be afraid every patent trademark and copyright created by ai might be challenged.

  • @24Anandhu
    @24Anandhu 7 місяців тому

    Would i create a challage for patent agents job in the future?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      Absolutely. GenAI will fundamentally change any job that involves understanding language and producing text, and patent work is no exception.

  • @m4rt_
    @m4rt_ 7 місяців тому

    Patents are already awful, but software patents are just pure evil. As software developers we should work together and share knowledge to make all software better rather than trying to grab all the useful stuff for ourselves so no one else can make good stuff.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      Yes, I hear this a lot from people who view software development more as an art form or a hobby. People who want to make money with their software product are less philantropic most of the time.

  • @satyamchaudhary9533
    @satyamchaudhary9533 7 місяців тому

    And not showing any seminar dating 9 April

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 6 місяців тому

      The next date is 30 April: powerclaim.io/seminar/

  • @satyamchaudhary9533
    @satyamchaudhary9533 7 місяців тому

    Your seminar is full sold out, may i know if there is any chance to enroll in it or when will be your next seminar

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 7 місяців тому

      Three new dates are now available: powerclaim.io/seminar/

  • @skunkprints7952
    @skunkprints7952 8 місяців тому

    I’m a younger inventor and have drafted a few patents myself. I must say that using ChatGPT is a game changer for me. I couldn’t afford to protect my big ideas and this helps bridge the gap and secure my ideas. If you are looking for a real world example of something I invented recently please reach out. It’s a new product I developed and I can’t wait to share it with the world! Thanks again for all the hard work you put in this!

  • @skunkprints7952
    @skunkprints7952 8 місяців тому

    Well done! This was very helpful and I can’t thank you enough for putting this together!

  • @tg-gx8jc
    @tg-gx8jc 8 місяців тому

    thanks, very nice! unfortunately the training data ends in 2020, how do we get updates?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      It depends on which model you're using. As far as I'm informed, Llama 3 7B model has a knowledge cutoff from March 2023: kili-technology.com/large-language-models-llms/llama-3-guide-everything-you-need-to-know-about-meta-s-new-model-and-its-data

  • @iemanuilov
    @iemanuilov 8 місяців тому

    Great video, Bastian, thank you for sharing! I'm surprised it even runs on a Surface Pro 5 😃Much faster on my Surface Laptop Studio 2 with 13th Gen Intel i7 H-series CPU and an NVIDIA RTX 4060 GPU. I'd suggest to folks trying to run LLMs locally to get a mobile GPU with at least 8GB VRAM, or a TB4 eGPU enclosure. It's a buttery smooth experience. You could also run Ollama via the Windows Subsystem for Linux, so you don't even have to rely on the (preview) Windows version. The best of both worlds.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 8 місяців тому

      Awesome. Thanks for these tips, that's very helpful!

  • @hansbleuer3346
    @hansbleuer3346 9 місяців тому

    Informatives Video!

  • @33samogo
    @33samogo 9 місяців тому

    Image recognition A , noise recognition B and target direction algorithm C are the prior art elements. The additional noise recognition D and novel probability algorithm F was added into this patent application. I wouldn't say that this is a general innovation because it depend on A,B and C claims (every thing depends on something, the only question is whether claims are in force). The New patent application can be easily applied if another IR temperature sensor G and novel direction algorithm E are added into New application (if someone will try this, is to late :). So this New application has the same "generality" than Roboter-Patent, that is why I don't consider this patent general, but specific. With "digital patents" we are entering into algorithm world which allows for endless "crushing" of general systems, and the ridiculously high number of patents per year just confirms this. Applying digital patent application is ridiculously easier than applying mechanical patent application, even if it is not general! I have one question, the first digital computer that used logical operators was mechanical, invented by German inventor Konrad Zuse, is it possible to apply digital patent on such device, using algorithm as the core of invention and not mechanical linkage mechanisms? You made great video with a great patent application claim analysis, thank you for this👌.

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      Thanks so much! I'm not sure if I get your example right and if I fully understand your question. Feel free to get in touch if you need 1-on-1 legal counseling.

  • @darbid9222
    @darbid9222 9 місяців тому

    You are doing this on a MacBook? What’s the specs of your MacBook

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      Yes. MacBook Pro (2021 version), M1 Max, 32 GB RAM.

  • @lennard6086
    @lennard6086 9 місяців тому

    Hi Bastian, thanks for this! Is there a reason why you left out the vicuna model you used earlier?

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      No specific reason, it's just that I mostly switched to llama lately.

  • @nc0849
    @nc0849 9 місяців тому

    But patent attorneys say it sound very 'patenty' but contains a lot of nonsense that would not make them pass as a patent. and the claims are weak to protect the patent or help them pass.

    • @skunkprints7952
      @skunkprints7952 8 місяців тому

      I’d say that too if I was concerned it was going to replace me 😅

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 5 місяців тому

      I guess they either used a poor model, or poor prompting (more likely)

  • @rorycavanagh5475
    @rorycavanagh5475 10 місяців тому

    So if company x programs a machine for customer y, does that mean that company x holds the copyright for that code? And what if company z wants to modify that code and use it? Or modify the code to fix it for customer y? Is that allowed?

  • @gyengez
    @gyengez 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Bastian. This i some grerat resource. May I ask what HW are you using? My i7 laptop is struggling despite 16GB of ram and GPU offload of 20

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 10 місяців тому

      Yes, these models are a bit resource-intensive. I'm using a MacBook Pro 16", 2021 Version with M1 Max chip and 32 GB of RAM.

  • @MarianaGonzalez-u7z
    @MarianaGonzalez-u7z 10 місяців тому

    are these models useful for drafting in Spanish?

    • @R391s
      @R391s 10 місяців тому

      Draft in English and use another model to translate in your desired target language...

  • @williamfauchoux5326
    @williamfauchoux5326 10 місяців тому

    Very impressive and educational 👍

  • @humphuk
    @humphuk 11 місяців тому

    Hi Bastian. Many thanks for the video - you inspired me to see what I could squeeze out of GTP4 with minimum prompting - only using its internal knowledge of the patent process - but allowing it to fill in some details from the internet. It generated what looked like a patent - but of course, far short of what we would expect from a professional. However, I will push it further with some specific prompting and exposure to examples. It is interesting to ask it about the weaknesses of its own draft - and what would be needed to improve it. It can then ask you questions to fill in the gaps..... Of course, we can't use these models due to disclosure. Is there a reason to choose the Vicuna 13B model? Do you know if any other models may be more aligned to the task - or even pre-trained on patent law and practices? (I too use LM Studio - and haven't seen anything compatible)

    • @beyondbestpractice
      @beyondbestpractice 10 місяців тому

      Actually, I picked Vicuna-13B only because I read a blog post saying it's almost as good as GPT-4. I've just tested some other open-source LLMs here: ua-cam.com/video/yMTbJdxwjUw/v-deo.html. Currently, I'm not aware of any LLM that would be specifically pre-trained on patent knowledge. That's why I'm going to build one myself in 2024. Stay tuned :) I'll answer the other questions in your comment in an upcoming video.

    • @humphuk
      @humphuk 10 місяців тому

      @@beyondbestpractice Hi Bastian. I was playing today with unaligned models like Dolphin 2 1 Mistral 7B - The results were much better, even with simple prompts (as it is not constrained by the normal guardrails). I am not a patent attorney, so would find it fascinating to see a critique of the output of these models by someone trained in the arts!

  • @kabbalahtranslator
    @kabbalahtranslator 11 місяців тому

    The OpenAI charter literally defines AGI as automating ALL white collar work. Lots of legal layoffs await!