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Yes! I believe Rhino 8 has some updates in GH to allow accessing layer information out of the box. I’ve always used the Elefront plugin to handle layer management. Probably a good tutorial I should get around to making, but essentially you can control the layer structure by constructing a text string that represents the full path, separated with :: to indicate a sublayer. The same component in Elefront used to generate a new layer also has an input for display color. That way you could just bake the objects on the appropriate layer rather than explicitly assigning color on a per-object basis. Does that make sense?

Hi apologies for just seeing this now. I'm open to discussing your specific challenge on a call. Feel free to find a time on my calendar and please be as specific as possible: meetings.hubspot.com/timothy-halvorson/coffee-30

Hi Jemima thanks for reaching out and following along! It's hard to troubleshoot based on your description. Can you send a copy of your Rhino model + script as (1) zipped folder and submit through my topic request form here: 7fold.io/contact/#topic I'll try to take a look within 24 hours once received!

Thats brilliant, thank you! I've just submitted it now :) @@7fold_design

Received! We'll pick things up via email. Please mark my email as a safe sender if it happened to land in the 'junk' pile. (Gotta love the email gatekeepers!) Talk soon.

glad you enjoyed it! Which tip was your favorite from the bunch?

@@7fold_designAll of them, but C-plane manipulations in particular.

Love it! So sorry I didn't see you responded until just now clearing messages from UA-cam studio. Any chance you're interested in also learning more about Revit? My workflows tends to work between Revit & Rhino depending on the design solution I'm after.

glad you found value james!

Glad you found it! If you do the opposite holding alt first then click+drag it will expand the components to the right of your cursor. Hitting alt twice expands components below your cursor. But given how big some scripts get it’s easier to just get in the habit of color coordinated groups of components to stay organized.

Hey Morgan thanks for reaching out! I’d love to understand the specifics of your problem over a brief 15-30 min call. In short, yes- but it requires some very careful programming which I’ve done before but haven’t made any tutorials about yet. To avoid spam would you mind submit your email through the form here we can connect directly offline? 7fold.io/contact/requests/

Hi Keeley, the curves are modeled manually in Rhino using a Control Point Curve. Then in Grasshopper (GH) just reference in those curves using a Geometry container and input them into a Loft component in GH. Pretty typical workflow so you have the ability to easily make changes to the curves in Rhino as "control geometry" then everything rationalizes in GH parametrically based on the script.

Hi Sharif glad you found it useful! I wouldn't mind booking a time to look at this together. Feel free to submit your email in the form at 7fold.io/ and I'll message directly. In short there is a lot of mesh tools that ship with Grasshopper with it's own dedicated tab. Without fully understanding your end goal I can only give a possible next step which would be to use the 'Deconstruct Mesh' component which outputs color data embedded in each vertex of your mesh. So if it's a quad mesh you can expect 4 RGB color values 1 for each point to form that mesh face. If you are trying to sample the approximate center of the mesh like a 3D eye-dropper tool then you may need to explore 'Mesh Closest Point' or 'BREP Closest Point' to get other data. I've built workflows in the past where I'll create a surface that's only in Grasshopper based on the input mesh just to get the benefits of working with a NURBS surface but using only as control geometry and not something I'll used to create the final product. I've been doing a lot of work with Climate Studio lately but have a pretty good handle on resilience analysis tools and used Ladybug frequently a handful of years ago so I'm sure it would make sense once we connect and take a look.

Hi Casim, is the lesson too abstract? Architects often run “pull planning” sessions to map out essential activities needed to complete the project and where disciplines constrain each other in the process often using sticky notes. Having a digital version of this in Miro is a fantastic option to speed up the brainstorming process allowing as many collaborators as you want to join and make edits on the board. Some of these tools I didn’t cover in this video because I felt they are intuitive to find so I focused on a handful of my favorite hidden gems and how I’m currently using them in my work. What were you hoping to learn?

Hi Noel, try tapping Alt while dragging on the gumball handle to switch between making a copy vs transforming the curve into a solid brep. Let me know if it works for you!

Glad you enjoyed it! Any thoughts on what you’re hoping to learn next?

@@7fold_design I'm interested to learn more about Rhino in Revit

Apologies I didn't see this reply until just now Hugh! I'm planning more content for this year as well as the first (of many) courses in the works. If you want to be kept in the loop as fresh resources are made available, just drop your name/email in any the interest forms on the website! For example: 7fold.io/join/enroll-in-revit-core-practice/ Or explore other courses offered here: 7fold.io/join/ Hope to see you around the community!

Great tip thanks Hugh!

Cc for copy, EC for extrude curve, ES for extrude surface etc etc

Definitely! Rhino is chalked full of useful efficiencies I use those all the time

Cool! I'm trying to decide a value during Ctrl extrusion (such as in Alt copy) but seems impossible. Do you know any way how to do it? Thanks in advance!

To do a precise extrude it would be easier to use the Extrude Curve (ExtrudeCrv) or Extrude Surface (ExtrudeSrf) command then check the options in the command bar to see if you want to keep it as a solid, delete the original input, etc. Both allow you to type in a specific length before clicking a second time to confirm the extrusion. Offset Surface command also may be a good option depending on what you're trying to achieve!

great tip!

Add custom aliases EC and ES for ExtrudeCrv and ExtrudeSrf - much quicker to type than the full command

Getting comfortable with shortcuts saves so much time for sure!

Thanks for the specific request Noah much appreciated! Is this coming from a subcontractor standpoint or from an architecture/design standpoint? I’m curious what existing contextual information you have available to reference, if any. Thanks!

@@7fold_design Thanks for the reply. In this context I am curious how gh/revit can, for example, build out estimates before plans get further downstream.. there is a lot of potential those I work for are not tapping and I am hoping to bring something like this to the table. Thanks for creating these tutorials, I will be watching literally everything to see what knowledge I can gain. More importantly than any product in mind is building up my skills with these tools to react to other's needs.

Forgive me for not seeing this reply until now! (Something weird with YT Studio filtering comments) I am (finally) getting to producing a commercially available course! If you want to want to share more about your career interests I'm open to hearing more on a brief call sometime. Feel free to consider the "Core Practice" course types which should give you a solid foundation. Learn more here: 7fold.io/join Specifically Revit Core Practice might interest you: 7fold.io/join/enroll-in-revit-core-practice/ If you submit an interest form anywhere on the website, we can find a time to meet if you like. Cheers!

Welcome to the community Noah!

Glad you got value! There’s never a dumb question just the next question in my opinion. Cheers!

You bet! Any topic requests for future content?

Thanks for asking! I authored it from scratch just using the Miro formatting tools and then made it a locked group of objects. I use this for tracking the big picture and the 'Living Your Best Year Ever' journal by Darren Hardy system for weekly goal hitting.

So glad to have you apart of the community Juan! If you'd like to submit content requests for future releases, be sure to let us know in the contact form here: 7fold.io/contact/ Stay curious my friend!

Thank you Chaunce glad you got a lot of value out of it!

Typically I'll define the upper and lower limits with a domain for consistency as improvements are made to hitting ideal / acceptable ranges of values. There is a dedicated component in Grasshopper in the 'Maths' tab next to the Construct Domain component (found in the dropdown) that pulls the max and min values for each branch. So if you want the entire tree with just 1 min and 1 max you'll need to flatten the output or reduce to a single branch. When you say 'analyze' are you hoping to return panels that land outside your performance requirements? You can use the 'greater than' or 'less than' components to return booleans (True / False) for curvature above a set value. So again, that's why I'll use both defining a fix domain with an acceptable range and then filter for which panels/values land outside that range. The Min/Max component is a nice compliment if you want to see the exact upper and lower values of your current design solution. Does that answer your question?

@@7fold_design Great, thanks for the detailed explaination!

@@mg281ur You bet!

Hey Andres! Glad you enjoyed this lesson. What you'll want to research into is developing 'fitness functions' for Grasshopper. There's ways to get engineering-grade results through running these fitness functions through evolutionary based solver addins such as Wallacei. My approach is to develop those thresholds then color-coordinate the results doing a more informed guess and check approach with which parameters I decide to control upstream. Evolutionary solvers tend to be for intermediate to advanced users of Grasshopper so I'd see how far you can get with the methods shown here in this video. I have another similar video that may provide different insights on what you're getting at here: ua-cam.com/video/Y4_SpwZfSu8/v-deo.html

With pleasure Dario! Keep an eye out we are planning to launch a lot new content through 7fold.io this year!

Nord Stage 2. I wanted to have weighted keys and "feel" like a piano without buying a full grand piano and have the flexibility for digital audio production. It's a hobby! I'd definitely recommend finding a music store to play the keyboard if you're in the market since the keys action was a big selling point for me.

@@7fold_design thanks for the advice, I’m looking at p515 Yamaha and others like in that definitely key weights… good to know about nord

You bet!

Hey Constantine thanks for reaching out. When you say "control" what types of control are you specifically hoping for? You are able to query/edit the parameter values of a curtain panel pattern already modeled in your Revit model. The opportunity then would be to write additional logic into Grasshopper to qualify when/how you set certain values. That Revit family type is inherently constrained on purpose to force typical penalization to happen. I would look into the Family set of RiR components, specifically Component Family Form and Component Family Curve can help translate your Rhino Geometry back into Revit Family Geometry. From there you can get the base surfaces to match natively in Revit, do a 1-step manual process to Divide Surface and set the family, and then get back into RiR to make customizations to that Divided Surface. The only other "back door" option would be to use the Built-In Categories component. Doing a quick search now I'm seeing "Divided Curve" and "Divided Surface" show up which are specific types of Revit Elements. At this time I don't believe there are create tools for what you are looking for but there are ways to get/set info from curtain panel pattern based that's already in the model. There are a lot of query/analyze components related to Curtain Wall systems in the Wall set of RiR components. So I'm not sure what your goal is from a design perspective, but in general you are finding one of those cases where you should be asking if using RiR is the right approach to your design problem. The harder work is splitting out which parts of your design scope you develop and maintain using control geometry in Rhino Inside and which parts are handled best with modeling best practices in Revit not requiring custom tooling to be built to work with it. Think more in terms of semi-automatic tools you build in RiR and not fully automatic, turn-key solutions and it will help when making your own internal negotiations while authoring in Grasshopper.

@@7fold_design Hello! Thabks for the reply! What I was thinking of was to be able to create Revit division patterns in Grasshopper to be used with Curtain Wall pattern based families but i realized that you can already do that with Adaptive Components. By the way, is it true that curtain wall pattern based panels are a simplified type of adaptive components?

@@Constantinesis Yes. If you're already getting familiar with Rhino Inside then you should definitely understand how to work with Adaptive Components. Curtain Panel Pattern Based is a family type in a similar family environment just with more constraints and optimized for performance. For example you have to work within the pre-defined pattern frameworks provided (like grid or diamond) but you do get more flexibility with Adaptives even before using Rhino Inside. I could whip up a few tutorials on this but the topic can get fairly deep when dealing with how to make your adaptive component parametric and how you want it to array across your divided geometry (whether divided curve or divided surface). Working with adaptive components back in my school days is ultimately what sparked my curiosity to develop more robust solutions through Grasshopper so I would encourage everyone to get familiar with working with them. They definitely help you to think critically about how you are composing your families which is essential when composing scripts in Grasshopper or Dynamo.

Have you explore the Geometry Gym libraries for Grasshopper yet? Karamba is also great for structural analysis. But yes, that was my goal was teaching essential workflows that can be adapted to a number of specialty studies when you know how to properly structure and maintain your data. You can always drop a note to bimacademy@7fold.io to submit lesson request for future videos. Cheers!

I appreciate you got value from this video Kummer! What discipline perspective are you coming from? I agree if we can standardize then it will be easier to have common data from which we can build insights and drive toward more performance-based design solutions. I've been in a lot of conversations lately that are looking at how architects can use simulation software to "jumpstart" the conversation with engineers who can than provide the performance requirements and sophisticated analysis to validate solutions. The hard part to get to is having fast, light-weight simulation tools that can integrate into the "daily sketch" design solutions being explored by architects prior to expanding the considerations to consulting engineers. Even in an integrated delivery approach there still needs to be a robust, immediate feedback loop in the hands of each designer to gauge how their solutions move toward better or worse performance. You are on the right track of thinking. I'm currently working on course material that provides a curated and consistent workflow for a holistic Rhino/Revit workflows. Happy to provide my recommended conventions and standards along with the logic behind each in case teams want to evolve a convention to suit their needs. The biggest thing is setting it at the outset of a project charter so that comparative analysis can occur throughout the project lifecycle. I'd be curious what other needs you are seeing/experiencing in your world of practice. You can always feel free to submit ideas for consideration by emailing bimacademy@7fold.io Cheers! -Tim

Very excited v1.0 is officially released now! If you have ideas or requests for future tutorials feel free to email a note to bimademy@7fold.io Appreciate the support Mykyta!

With pleasure Mykyta! Keep an eye out we are planning to launch a lot new content through 7fold.io this year!

Glad you enjoyed it Mykyta! If you want to grab a copy of the finished script and model, it's part of the "UA-cam Bundle 1" available at our shop here: 7fold.io/resources/ Stay curious!

Thanks Alessandro glad to have you apart of the community!

Glad I could help Chang! Any ideas you are most curious about or struggles you are facing in your architecture work now?

Happy to help!

Glad you enjoyed it Noah! What are you wondering about for next time?

​@@7fold_design Take the logic to the very start of the project! Sea level = 0' Project Level 1 FF Elevation = ?' # of Levels = ? Floor to floor = ? Create Drawing Views = [Plan, Elevation, Section, Axon, (interior elevation? door/window head-sill-jamb detail) Place views on sheets and number those sheets per logic Disciplines requiring backgrounds = ?[Electrical, plumbing, mechanical, structural] Duplicate views for other disciplines and create matching sheet number with discipline prefix Apply discipline-specific view template to those sheets I think all of that is possible now, so you could get a call about a project and almost just enter an address to get your SD set cartooned out Let's connect-

Typically for sheet management like what you’re describing I don’t instantiate a sheet (making it visible in the project browser) but actually just creat placeholder sheets so they schedule in the main sheet index in my model. To do that I use BIM Link made by Ideate Software to export the parameter headings that control my sheet organization. To get discipline-specific info I will always delegate them to coordinate their own set and, if necessary, point them to a naming convention they should align to (aka ISO Standards or something) For the automation you seek, consider if an addin already exists on the market. For example the Ideate Apps I mentioned have done a great job with sheet management (among other things). I use Rhino Inside for more surgical QAQC and applying / targeting data authoring when the other addins don’t do it for me. So that’s just considering the basic cost-benefit ratio of your development to production time (which you should always be doing) I’ve found the best grasshopper scripts typically role up into a push button or dialogue box / control panel with a series of buttons to do what you need to. Now for learning purposes, I agree “building a ramp” of understanding so at any point you could opt-in to a Rhino Inside based workflow is super powerful. For example, I just completed some batch renaming of Family and Type names across an entire model in less than an hour using Rhino Inside. I’d recommend getting on the mailer found via the BIM Academy website bimacademy.7fold.io and you can also email me at bimacademy@7fold.io Cheers and stay curious my friend!

Thanks for being apart of the community Girish and thank you the compliments are much appreciated! Any pain points or confusing workflows you're hoping to get covered in future videos?

My pleasure! One (of many) goals with this channel is to make it as smooth as possible to transition to an integrated Rhino <-> Revit workflow. You can still do so much with mesh geometry in Rhino but I think some of the nuances that make Sketchup feel smooth are in Rhino but tend to be "hiding in plane sight" as I like to say. It took a fair bit of tinkering to suddenly have that realization so I'm happy to keep sharing those types of workflows. Let me know specific study types you are looking to do and that can help me when pondering what content to put together next! Still trying to establish a consistent upload cadence so I appreciate the patience. Cheers!

@@7fold_design You're right about them hiding in plain sight (see suggestion below).....I must have 25 plug-ins for SketchUp loaded which I can't survive without and that make it usable as a daily driver for Architectural conceptual work, but which then always ends up being modelled further to at decent level of accuracy and detail. I suspect most of those plug-ins are native to Rhino but I don't know how to access them. The issue I have is that practices are more and more seeing SU as a hobby tool (despite it being super accurate) and Rhino as more of design tool and more professional. The fact that it also appeals to old-school AutoCAD users because of the typed-command line similarities adds to allure. Couple this with the advent of Rhino inside, potentially filling both of the two gaping holes in Revit (organic and fluent modelling and detailing, the nightmare that that is in Revit!) it looks more and more as though Rhino + Revit will be the future for most of us. It's just a shame that we also have to dig into Grasshopper too to get additional functionality as SU plug-ins offer most of what this offers but without the requirement to get involved in semi-programming, something which is way beyond the average user. I have yet to explore Grasshopper scripts and add-ons, which may help, but it still looks like a real bind. It would be really useful for SU users who are trying to convert over to Rhino to see the equivalent workflow in Rhino going from raw 2D CAD data into a finished small house or building covering all the basics we'd use in SU. Thinking about it on the most basic level the primary commands I'd use for this would be (in no particular order): - zoom/pan/orbit using zoom-wheel mouse (although I also use a SpaceMouse) - views - how to set them to parallel/perspective/fixed plan (hugely missing in SU) - views - setting styles (CAD-look/coloured/rendered) - View - X-ray mode (for modelling) - keyboard shortcuts - setting them up (essential, single key if possible) - selection - incl. adding/subtracting from selection - line (inc inferencing and locking direction) - move (inc inferencing and locking direction) - rotate (to set degree or reference) - hide/unhide object - isolate object (unisolate) - Push/Pull - Follow me - Components (blocks) - how to create, use, edit, locate - Groups - as above I'd say if a SU user knew the Rhino equivalent of these areas from SU they'd be able to model almost immediately in Rhino.

Hey I really appreciate your insights and genuine curiosity! Good news is reading through your list I can say with confidence you can do all those commands with Follow Me as the only question mark I will look into. I would be happy to build a residential-based workflow extrapolating from a 2D CAD plan. Do you have any material you would be willing to share as a starting point? Feel free to email bimacademy@7fold.io if you are interested and want to continue discussing offline. Many of the methods are in this video but I'm happy making another that contextualizes Rhino in the context of a real project scenario. And to respond to your first paragraph, I agree the future is a hub-spoke model with an integrated Rhino <-> Revit workflow as the hub through which the primary design decisions are being modelled. I've already been loving using Rhino.Inside to QC my Revit models at scale across multiple linked RVT models. I find now if I had to pick between Dynamo and Grasshopper to learn I would definitely start in Grasshopper. Even though I don't have Dynamo tutorials up yet I'm versed in both environments and find GH to be much more intuitive with targeting and organizing data with the user interface much more enjoyable. Lots of "bridging discussions" to be had for sure but I'll do my best to continue addressing them as much as possible!

Hey Biswajit thanks for your interest! What type of architecture design solutions are you looking to come up with?

Heard of it but never used it (yet) 😄 What is your take on how it's a better solution for designing architecture?

Responsive facade

simple and double panel classification