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Range Report- Heavies Made With New Trimmer Setup
I tested some 69gn & 77gn made with the new trimmer setup.
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Відео

Trim Station Update and More
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Some swaging upgrades that have made things easier.
Brass Trim Station 9000
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I've taken brass trimming to the absurd level...and I'm lovin' it!
A Better Powder Check Die?
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A relatively cheap homebrew powder/primer checker that works rather well if I do say so myself. Thanks to Dima Prok for the helpful suggestions. ►Otoscope: www.amazon.com/HealthneSS-Ear-Wax-Wireless-Otoscope/dp/B08NV9TB6W?th=1 ►Lee Decaping Die: www.midwayusa.com/product/1011183740?pid=136543 ►File locations (Android): BKWIFI: Android\data\com.molink.john.bkwifi\files\DCIM\WXHTY MZSCOPE: DCIM\W...
26g Shot-mini @40M
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Results were better than expected.
Russian Slug Mold Core Pin Protectors
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Do you have Russian slug molds with a delicate core pin design? This will help protect them from damage.
Six Pack Priming System "Fix"
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It's come to this...
Lee Bench Plate Mod - Addendum
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An alternative, and potentially beneficial way to do this mod.
Lee Bench Plate Mod
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Make cleanup easier
Lee Pro 6000 Six Pack Bin Mod - After A Few Minor Gripes
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Build Bin Better Lee just replaced the press due to my priming issues. We'll see how it goes.
Whidden Click-Lock RIng "Adapter" for Presses with Tight Spacing
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Make (at least some) of you Whidden rings fit tight presses.
Die Adjustment Protectors
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Help avoid unintentional die adjustment mishaps.
Back to Jacket Trimming
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Some tools/tool mods to make jacket trimming easier.
Po' Man's Hull Clamp
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Let's make a simple hull clamp
Is your PID truly dead?
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So your PID died...or did it?
Twister Short Shells
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Twister Short Shells
Improved Thermocouple Mount for 4-20 Pot
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Improved Thermocouple Mount for 4-20 Pot
APP Retaining Pin Mod Update
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APP Retaining Pin Mod Update
Powder Coat Bullets When It's Humid
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Powder Coat Bullets When It's Humid
Brass Catcher Burn Fix - Addendum
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Brass Catcher Burn Fix - Addendum
Brass Catcher Burn Fix
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Brass Catcher Burn Fix
APP Case Inserter Fix
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APP Case Inserter Fix
Lee APP Feed Gate
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Lee APP Feed Gate
Etsy 3D printed Lee collator - FAIL
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Etsy 3D printed Lee collator - FAIL
Why Do I Bullet Swage?
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Why Do I Bullet Swage?
Core Shaker Tweaks
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Core Shaker Tweaks
Another cause of weight discrepancy
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Another cause of weight discrepancy
Derim Head Separation Issues
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Derim Head Separation Issues
Don't Stress Out When Weight Sorting
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Don't Stress Out When Weight Sorting
Woolite Lanolin Lube Removal - Addendum
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Woolite Lanolin Lube Removal - Addendum

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @1dt1971
    @1dt1971 15 годин тому

    After wasting 5 minutes of my life listening to you, I got so frustrated I had to stop the video 5 minutes in and you had said absolutely nothing. Man, stop rambling about absolutely nothing and get to the point of your video !!

  • @billho854
    @billho854 19 днів тому

    Zzzzzzzzz………..

  • @stevehopsoniii594
    @stevehopsoniii594 20 днів тому

    Hope all is well bud and idk how i missed this video but excellent data and good chooting and yes a hobby within a hobby ina hobby and thanks to you the ideas just gotta get outta the box or think outside the box and homemade trimmer for the cut off wheel and I haven’t tried some of them blunt tips or made any yet but finally did some testing with 55gr and 70gr and did good with the 55’s a 5 round group for a 1.380 or close to it then the 70’s a 3rounder was over an inch for the best group and good chooting

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 20 днів тому

      It took awhile to get out to the range after having that knee surgery. Nor my dominant shoulder is acting up again. I remounted my scope and started wearing my glasses and groups have tightened up. 🤯 Getting old sure has its downsides. 😥 The upside is that it won't be all that long before I start getting that sweet senior discount. That trimmer collet Dima made sure makes things easier. Enough whining. Seating depth and powder choices/charges can make a pretty big difference. I wish I had a slower twist rate than 1:8, because I've been told it makes a big differen, though that's much easier to find in bolt action than AR. I think Dima is using a 1:12 bolt action. I was told 1:14 when I bought the dies. Like I've said, seating base to ogive gives better consistency, and my jump is HUGE (somewhere around .080") because swaged bullets are short and I seat to the base of the neck for max tension. I've started dabbling in zinc a little for 300 BO & 300 HAM'R, but haven't spent a lot of time on it yet. HAM'R is picky about what bullets fit, so mostly factory there. Steel molds with the right profile are limited. With Hodgdon buying up everyone and raising prices Vihtavuori finally made sense, so I've been playing with that too. Now I get all the hype over it. I've filmed some vids, but just never got around to editing and/or uploading. Either life, laziness or dissatisfaction with the footage got in the way. That and some misplaced/deleted(?) files (organization just isn't my strong suit).🙁 Hope all is well on your end. Happy shooting

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman 27 днів тому

    How do the shot mini's fly at say 20-30 yards? Nice and true and straight as an arrow?

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman 29 днів тому

    what wad did you use with the 27 grains of vectan A1 powder? A brush wad? Cheers

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 29 днів тому

      It was a brush wad. The thing is that they don't actually fit properly since the rim is too tall. The green wads are what's shown on all the Russian slug mold manufacturer's sites. BPI sells them as BRP-12.

  • @highonbusa6520
    @highonbusa6520 Місяць тому

    What’s up with the Kamala laugh?? Wired as hell

  • @wmwhite6266
    @wmwhite6266 Місяць тому

    Good rant :). Thank you

  • @Ruteger100
    @Ruteger100 Місяць тому

    got the same trouble with the 45 colt. Small rim, no holding power.

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. I always kicked myself for not ordering one when they were $12 and then they stopped selling them. I’d rather have one that tapers so it feeds in some automatics and spend a little bit more money.

  • @CoachKalu
    @CoachKalu 2 місяці тому

    I tried Shooters World Blackout recently and I was truly impressed with it. Too bad I didn't stock up before SW Powders became expensive. 😢

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 2 місяці тому

      I'm in the same boat with SOCOM and AR-Plus. SW is still cheaper than others, but hard to find in stock now.

  • @scariot7571
    @scariot7571 3 місяці тому

    My Lee six pack works perfectly. The priming system i am using the Large pistol primer guide for small pistol primers, works better when the primer returns into the hole of the guide, try it

  • @tonybarnes5309
    @tonybarnes5309 4 місяці тому

    I like it. I am going to do this on my turret press.

  • @italianrelic
    @italianrelic 4 місяці тому

    Can I buy about 20 6 segment twister slugs from you?

  • @jamesbasler1521
    @jamesbasler1521 4 місяці тому

    Just WOW.....!!! You definitely voided your warranty on that one.

  • @ptx8716
    @ptx8716 4 місяці тому

    I use 1/2 9mm casing of lemishine and a cap full armorall carwash with pins (if real dirty) in a harbor freight tumbler. Very shiny.

  • @stevanrose7439
    @stevanrose7439 4 місяці тому

    Let’s see the finished product 🤪 I cast 7/8 lee slugs 🐌 and don’t have any trouble getting them out of the mold. But they are different then the ones you have there.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 4 місяці тому

      I got excited and a but ahead of myself here. I hadn't quite gfigured out the leaning curve of these molds just yet. You have to run at ~900F and the core pin needs to be heat soaked for good fill out of the driving bands and easy pin extraction (any burrs on the core pin will make for a bad day). Using the right wad makes a big difference BPI BRP-12 (Gualandi BRP 20). I have videos on them and Taofledermaus has some videos with the 6 petal and 3 petal versions. Look for the ones attached to the proper green wad.

  • @Blackline9114
    @Blackline9114 5 місяців тому

    This video was wayyyy too long for the given info.

  • @italianrelic
    @italianrelic 5 місяців тому

    5/8 inch #4 wood screw you said?

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 5 місяців тому

      I've jumped up to 3/4 inch x #4. They're easier to find and the extra threads give them a little more holding power.

  • @giuseppecosta2483
    @giuseppecosta2483 5 місяців тому

    Hello friend, I wanted to tell you that when reloading the 12 gauge the unit of measurement is grams, not grains

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 5 місяців тому

      It's all measured in grains here.

  • @danwillis2671
    @danwillis2671 7 місяців тому

    WOW!

  • @robertfrapples2472
    @robertfrapples2472 8 місяців тому

    Dude, I'm sitting here cracking up. That hole in the index finger of your right glove tells me you've had a time with this mold! I make thousands of Svarog slugs, and have at least seven pairs of gloves with the exact same hole in the exact same place. It comes from having to tug them off the pin. I promise you, if you haven't already done so, you will destroy the threads in the nosecone of your core pin if you keep wiggling it like that. Usually, what makes them difficult to remove (after they're hot) is that the screw at the bottom of the core pin loosens, allowing lead to seep between the nosecone base and the pin. You have to break that lead free to release. Of course, bent, dirty or burred blades will also cause sticking. Lose that maul and open by hand as often as you can. I've had to drill and tap new holes in two of my Svarog molds because the sprue plate bolts kept stripping out. The wad for these slugs is the green BRP-12.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 8 місяців тому

      I eventually learned to run lead around 900F to get the driving bands to fill out reliably, and the sprues cut my hand. I did snap the pin off the tip of the core pin of my Svarog mold. I haven't had any screw strip out though. There's definitely a bit of a learning curve to these molds but it's worth it. I prefer the AS molds over Svarog. It was hard to get the BRP12 wads, so I had to buy 5k. It sure would be nice if Gualandi had another distributor besides BPI.

  • @ergofoxxxy
    @ergofoxxxy 9 місяців тому

    everything is off camera

  • @franksaunders4298
    @franksaunders4298 9 місяців тому

    If you get a separate hot plate you can keep the mold and core pin hot enough by adjusting the temperature control getting them ready beforehand and preventing cooling of the mold and pin if you get interrupted while casting.

  • @Rico11b
    @Rico11b 9 місяців тому

    I realize this video is a couple years old now, but why use Lanolin at all? I use rcbs lube-2 with 99% alcohol mixed 20:1. If you need it bit more then use a 15:1 or 10:1 ratio. It's water soluble and rinses away with plain water. You don't even tumble, just put it in a plastic tub with water and agitate for a moment, and you're done. I've even used a plastic collider and rinsed under running water.

  • @bubbamac187
    @bubbamac187 9 місяців тому

    Actually, THIS was the kind we saw! The 3-Segment Twisters. Would love a box of 20-25 of these bad boys for me and my dad try out. Thanks again!

  • @bubbamac187
    @bubbamac187 9 місяців тому

    I've been searching for this video for quite some time now! So stoked to actually find it! My dad and I saw the slugs you sent another channel for testing. He's a preacher, but he still likes a cool slug lol. How could I buy a box of these off you? Maybe 25, so me and my dad can make a cool video too 🤠👍 Thanks!

  • @l.a.3887
    @l.a.3887 9 місяців тому

    Looks like woolite is the only way to go thanks

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 9 місяців тому

      Your brass will stay shiny longer too.

  • @bgsth4374
    @bgsth4374 10 місяців тому

    Well this is quality information video. But why painting them orange?

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 10 місяців тому

      It's camouflage so the deer don't see them coming.😆 They're powder coated to reduce leading. Probably not as necessary for slugs.

  • @albertangel3839
    @albertangel3839 11 місяців тому

    Last night I placed an order with a Russia company really don’t know what the name is but have the Zevero boy and botfly. I could not figure out how to pay out but received an order confirmation with order number. It said not paid and I need to issue an invoice manually…..I don’t understand. Did yo pay during checkout. If you can give me any help I would appreciate it. Seems the company you ordered from may be easier. Thanks for any help!

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 11 місяців тому

      Mine are from as-molds.com/ They have you fill out your order on the product page and then they email you a PayPal link, but I'm pretty sure they had to change that with the Ukraine situation. It's an odd system, but it works.

    • @albertangel3839
      @albertangel3839 11 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for your speedy reply! Do you have any knowledge of the website I’m referring to? It’s CBAROT or something like that. Once again thank you very much for your help Sir!

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 11 місяців тому

      @@albertangel3839 www.svaroghunt.ru/ ?If so it's Svarog.

    • @albertangel3839
      @albertangel3839 11 місяців тому

      @@psykoklown874 Thank you for the reply. A lady at AS molds emailed me to verify I understood the delivery situation that they will make and ship the mold but do not guarantee delivery. I told her I didn’t think I wanted to invest $230 with no delivery guarantee. I truly appreciate your help.

    • @bmeeks6066
      @bmeeks6066 11 місяців тому

      Do you think we can still get these shipped is there any kind of ban for the USA?

  • @gruntspy44
    @gruntspy44 Рік тому

    Hope your doing well, havent talked to you on discord in a bit

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 11 місяців тому

      Pretty good other than mean old Arthur Itis eating away at me. Can make it difficult to take advantage of the few nice days we get here. This vid shows that I had at least one pretty productive day. 😆

  • @joseduque4043
    @joseduque4043 Рік тому

    Where can I find me a copy of this one? Everywhere I look they are unavailable.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      Even Speer lists it as out of stock. At least they have newer data available for download.

    • @joseduque4043
      @joseduque4043 Рік тому

      @@psykoklown874 do you know where could I download it.

  • @philw7174
    @philw7174 Рік тому

    Well done. Happy trails!

  • @UserAccountID
    @UserAccountID Рік тому

    My Ridgeback is a year old now. She is named Rally after the girl from Gunsmith Cats. Your skin is looking better brother.

  • @ishnifusmeadle
    @ishnifusmeadle Рік тому

    So wish I could afford to get into swaging, but least I'm loading. Luckily producer's are decent enough nowadays for my needs so there's less of a need for me. Atm when I'm feeling frisky ill do imitation swaging with various dies for homeade style projectiles. Love my forster trimmer but gotta get more pilots n such. Got the adjustable neck turner kit too which has been helpful in case conversions

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      The price of admission is definitely prohibitive. It's good that reloading costs have finally started to come back down.

    • @ishnifusmeadle
      @ishnifusmeadle Рік тому

      @psykoklown874 definitely. My main issue recently has been lrp and lpp. I'm very stocked on the other 2 I use (don't need magnums for my loads) but recently finally found em, albiet more than I want to pay but had to splurge with hunting season coming up.

  • @WilliamCChapin
    @WilliamCChapin Рік тому

    Groovy…I’ll take a look at this once I wrap up some work stuff. I’m heading out to observe some ultrasonic metering equipment. 🙂

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      Dima's collet makes it work. Then it's all about finding the right jacket length for the bullet weight you want to make. That takes some trial and error.

  • @gruntspy44
    @gruntspy44 Рік тому

    Dear lord

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      😆I hear ya. Things spiraled out of control, but it sure is nice not to have to adjust every time I change cartridges. I managed to score the trimmers for around $50 each.

  • @sigspearthumb1056
    @sigspearthumb1056 Рік тому

    Have you thought about and or tried to get a expanding mandrel or some type of expander that will fit into a 17HMR and let you expanded it back up to 22HMR? that way you don’t have to cut them anymore unless you actually are wanting to do so?

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      You have to shorten the jackets for them to work for each bullet weight, and the tail style and point profile affect the length. After chopping the necks I have to shorten them another .050" or so for 77gn, so unless you're trying to recreate Atomic Ammo 112gn .223/5.56 rounds... I recently got a much better semi-custom setup for trimming jackets that isn't a pinch trim die. I recently learned about 6x45, and wasn't happy that I'd drawn my supply down for .224. Now I wish I could easily re-expand them to 6mm. There are dies to expand 22lr to 6mm, but they aren't designed for longer brass. Getting the jacket off the base punch is the problem. If I had a lathe/mill I'd try some ideas I have to make something, but I can't afford to pay a machine shop to make something that might not work. It would require a stripper bar under the brass to be able to extract the base punch. I'm wondering if an expansion "ball" with a small bearing surface would help with friction, or if it would just allow the brass to buckle during extraction.

  • @sigspearthumb1056
    @sigspearthumb1056 Рік тому

    You need to keep making these videos and see if you can get into touch with Johnnys reloading videos and have him make loads and then get tnt9outdoors to do the SIM test media Ballistic gel tests for 223/556 pressure loads from johnnys

  • @sigspearthumb1056
    @sigspearthumb1056 Рік тому

    If you lost 24 bullets total you have lost about 7.6% of 315 if that was your total. I’d be extremely happy with that.

  • @sigspearthumb1056
    @sigspearthumb1056 Рік тому

    What type of 6mm brass are you useing to make jackets.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      I draw down 17 hmr & 22 wmr to 6mm and then to .224.

  • @richardkut3976
    @richardkut3976 Рік тому

    Thanks, good info & demo.

  • @RexH00ligan
    @RexH00ligan Рік тому

    Your giggles, sighs, and endless hand gestures are killing me to listen. Work on getting to the point.

  • @RM-dn1mi
    @RM-dn1mi Рік тому

    Just finished up some Tactical Rifle and Clean Pistol. Really good powders. Wish I could buy it at my local stores.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      It sure is nice to find some good powders at reasonable prices, and you're right, it would be an even sweeter deal to find them locally. I stocked up on Clean Shot for 9mm and AR-Plus for .223. I've been waiting to get my 300 HAM'R barrel back from Wilson. They list SOCOM in their load data. Today I went to find the last lb of Tactical that I thought I had only to find that I must've already used it. I thought I had a little Precision left as well, but it's gone too. At least I have another lb of Match. I thought I was out of that. Here is their dealer locator map: www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1xmfQ4OfNF-rQVeeuJpuH-GPEOyB3RwcV&ll=40.4097298049114%2C-99.21793160000001&z=5 They list one 50 miles from me.

  • @MScholtz
    @MScholtz Рік тому

    Im assuming this is the one you sent Johnny's reloading bench. Any idea what happened to him, he's just gone dark.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      It's another one I made at the same time. I've been wondering what happened to him too.

  • @tires2burn
    @tires2burn Рік тому

    Reg Dawn and lemi shine for 1.5 hrs works for me. Longer get the nickel cases black.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      I've had quite a few times when Dawn just didn't do the job, but Woolite has always worked. Also, swage lube is harder to remove than sizing lube.

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman Рік тому

    Awesome man. So whose moulds are of better quality and produce the best slugs? Zvarog or AS molds? Also have you the zvarog botfly?

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      The molds are very similarly constructed, and both have their pros & cons. Svarog handles are more comfortable in the hand (think Lee vs RBS handles), but the AS core pin handle is larger and easier to grip. I think AS may have the edge in quality, but I'd say it's really more down to the slug design you want since they both have offerings the other doesn't. I have the Svarog Zveroboy, but I think the Twister verion is a better design since thins at the separation point, and has a bit more of a diabolo shape. In theory it should fragment more consistently at lower velocities (TFM had them fragmenting subsonic).

    • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
      @ClarkesonTheMarksman Рік тому

      @@psykoklown874 Cheers man for your reply. I've been speaking with Elizabeth today over at AS via email. She too mentioned AS were of better quality :) The twister 6 and 4 slits look very nice I was after an Oz fragmenting slug. And I think the botfly matches that criteria?!

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      @@ClarkesonTheMarksman From what I can find the Botfly is closer to 1 oz than even the 6 petal Twister. I suggest ordering extra core pins for segmented slugs if possible since the fins can be easily damaged if dropped. You can file them smooth, but they'll be misshapen after awhile. AS won't sell replacements (claim hand fitted), but they might if ordered at the same time as the mold.

    • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
      @ClarkesonTheMarksman Рік тому

      @@psykoklown874 sweet man. Thank you

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman Рік тому

    Also are AS molds better than svarog? I will say Elizabeth's customer service and communication at AS is second to none

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      The molds are very similarly constructed, and both have their pros & cons. Svarog handles are more comfortable in the hand (think Lee vs RBS handles), but the AS core pin handle is larger and easier to grip. I think AS may have the edge in quality, but I'd say it's really more down to the slug design you want since they both have offerings the other doesn't. I have the Svarog Zveroboy, but I think the Twister verion is a better design since thins at the separation point, and has a bit more of a diabolo shape. In theory it should fragment more consistently at lower velocities (TFM had them fragmenting subsonic).

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman Рік тому

    I've Tried ordering from as or svarog to the UK but with all the sanctions due to the war in Ukraine, they have some dodgy payment options which I'm highly dubious about

  • @jonleone777
    @jonleone777 Рік тому

    I use a thumbler tumble with micro brite ceramic polishing media, citric acid and a capful of dawn. Works great to clean my brass or bullets.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      I've never heard of the ceramic polishing media. Thanks for the info. Bear in mind that swage lube isn't the same as sizing lube, it's thicker and harder to remove. Woolite removes lanolin from clothing, so it pulls double duty for me.

    • @jonleone777
      @jonleone777 Рік тому

      @@psykoklown874 ceramic media works good. Its a bit expensive, about 45 bucks for 5 pounds but lasts forever. Just make sure you get the media that says polishing. The other stuff is to abrasive My case lube is much closer to a 60/40 mix of lanolin and caster oil. Not as thick as yours so probanly easier to get off. I have also used boiling water over the cases and bullets to remove the lanoline prior to tumbling them. If you can get rubbing alcohol cheap enough in bulk you can soak your bullets in that to desolve the lube.

    • @psykoklown874
      @psykoklown874 Рік тому

      @@jonleone777 That price actually isn't much different than SS media. Thanks for the tips.

  • @jonleone777
    @jonleone777 Рік тому

    Dude. Get to the point already.

    • @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
      @E.L.RipleyAtNostromo 7 місяців тому

      Really, thank you! 👍 For initial dirty brass cleaning I use Armor all car wash 2 tablespoons and 1/4 teaspoon lemishine. To get the lanolin lube off after resizing I just use maybe 1 tablespoon of the car wash and hot water. Don’t even need to tumble it with pins, just without pins for a while, or rinsed off in the sink. Doesn’t take much.