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I haven't read Ulysses but I'm wondering if Fry doesn't care about "story" as much as you do. Maybe his notion of a novel is as a work of art that does more than storytelling. I'm not sure but that may be a point of disconnect.

Interesting, I just had that Rushdie clip pop up in my UA-cam feed yesterday, and decided not to click on it - but I’m glad to come across it here. I’m no fan of “stream of consciousness” writing but never gave it so much thought as you’ve done here. Language keeps evolving, and I’m not sure this perfect book has put down enough stays to bear it through the tides of time.

Good discussion.

Lots of books! I've thought about getting some Penguin Classics, but I heard the newer ones are lower quality than the older ones. Do you find that to be true? Also, I think I like the reading experience of having a larger paperback volume.

Thanks, Will 🎉 IMA drop this tag tonight 😊

Some interesting choices. Food for thought! Happy reading.

Yes to headlong--Yes to no attempts to remember! You're singing my song, Will!

Hi Will. I tagged you on this one yesterday too. 😊 I thought this was a great tag-really thought-provoking questions. I enjoyed your responses to the prompts. And I love your “distracting” kids’ toys in your videos! 😊

I’m glad there are people out there who read great books but don’t feel obligated to annotate or take notes. I’m experimenting with notes and I’ll have to see if it takes hold.

Thank you so much for the tag!

I am always so pleased to see booktubers reading Forsyte Saga! I think it may be mentioned in my response to this tag, too!

Thanks for doing the tag Will! Middlemarch was on my TBR forever too, but I loved it when I finally got to it last year. I love The Thing so I need to get hold of the Campbell novella. I agree that Addie LaRue's rating is a crime. Goodreads ratings generally are higher for books published since Goodreads existed, people reading old William Golding books are generally older and maybe more critical than the average Goodreads reviewer, who are probably on average a young person reading YA. Middlemarch, a novel which has more character in a single sentence than the whole of Addie LaRue, is rated lower than it. I actually an wary of newly published books with high ratings on GoodReads as its such a bad barometer.

I actually love to hate Ignatius. Over the top deplorable. Iggy is supreme in that way. Thanks for the tag.

Thanks for the tag Will. I have in fact done this tag. Clifford D. Simak themed answers.

Hi Will. I enjoyed your responses to the prompts. I re-read Middlemarch this past March with Classics and Company, and I most definitely counted it as my mammoth! Interesting to hear you talk about Addie LaRue, which I have not read yet. I think I do have the book somewhere…Thank you for tagging me. I actually just did this one last week, but thanks for thinking of me.😊

A real favourite of mine - love your heroin and alien analogies 😂

I have this in her Collected Poems - I didn't know it had its own fancy edition - on the wish list it goes!

I have the Tonks book and I've read it a few times - I like it a lot without understanding it much apart from atmospheres and images - it feels like a grubby immersion into a bohemian London scene. Your analysis is great. As for Paris.... fantastic! I wish Mirrlees had written more in that vein.

I’ll be happy just to finish reading this book. I know full well that there is more depth and meaning that will be lost to me .

Glad to have you on board, Will. 🇮🇪

Hi Will. I'm enjoying hearing your reflections on Ulysses here and in the Discord. I very much like your associations to David Copperfield, one of my favorite novels of Dickens. I'm afraid I was the one talking about Iago. (I'm a retired English teacher, Will. I can't help it!😉) I am revisiting Ulysses after having read it in college and in graduate school. In college, I probably didn't get much of it as all. In graduate school, of course, we were reading it in an entirely different way. For me, it was an incredibly powerful reading experience--but not because I was reading all of the corollary texts (which we were required to do) but rather because I, like Stephen, was in a state of deep mourning for my father and my brother, who had died in close succession. I felt like I was living in the book, if that makes any sense. I'm having a very different experience this time around, almost 40 years later. The jury is still out for me. I'm just not sure how I feel about this book or if I even want to keep re-reading it. That said, I'm glad that you are reading with us. Now that we are getting into Bloom, I'm hoping things will pick up and that I will feel more engaged. Anyway, sorry for having gone on so long. 😊

I still miss the old Penguin Classics when they were a sort of khaki and white with sewn bindings.

Plenty to keep you out of mischief there. Best wishes and happy reading.

Such a wonderful poem. Yeats is a poet to be read and reread.

Loved the way you first expressed what is being communicated by this poem, but I also found your reflection on the whiteness fascinating.

Beautiful! Thank you, Will. One of my favorites…

Is Marly significant?

Even though I've tried to swear off of big anthologies, I may have to get this one or something like it. There is so much American poetry of the 20th Century that I've admittedly neglected British poetry of the same period. You're doing a great job of using the survey in a fluid way--using the prompts as a jumping off point for exploring your perceptions of the poem without feeling too bound by them. I'm thoroughly enjoying your responses to them--in part because some of them are totally individual and unpredictable. Like jazz for this poem. Love it.

Beautiful poem. I loved the alliteration. The sound of it is wonderful. I need to read more of both Larkin and Belloc. I agree that gardening is its own non-fic category and a great selection for this poem. Loved the Peer Gynt association. I'm loving your additions to the categories.

FYI, google does record the survey answers and they can then be exported as an excel. I thought I'd had it set up to inform me when a survey had been completed but I wasn't informed of your entries so I need to go in and check my settings. Of course, there's no need for you to fill it out each time you run through the questions. Goodness knows I don't. Use it however you like.

Loved the dark humor of this poem. It was very interesting to hear you go through the survey. It really does tease out perceptions of the poem, which are likely differ from person to person. Loved your choice of black comedy thriller as the fiction type. I also loved your reasoning for the pop music category. Self-portrait is a great add to the visual category. "Definitive vacillation" was lol for me. I totally enjoyed hearing you go through the survey. Don't feel that you need to credit me or provide a link each time you use it. If people are curious, they will ask you about it as you did me. I'm off now to listen to your other two Poetry Thursday contributions.

Very good installment of poetry Thursday. I've been watching all of your entries and enjoying the variety etc. I'm definitely a dog person, rather than a cat person, but this was really enjoyable and interesting episode, and the poem itself is just soaked in skillful execution, in my amateur opinion 👍

That edition of "The Lord of the Flies" is the one I read on my own out of school (never read it as a student).

I had no idea there were two Brueghel (elder and younger) versions of a Kermesse painting. I find this a delightful poem. One insight you might be getting from the poem is your attitude toward frivolous human activity. I think Williams enjoys it. Does the painting deliver more than the poem? (It may--I haven't studied it.) How often do we enjoy music that isn't profound or doesn't give us new insights? I personally read poetry a lot for delight in the language used. I'm also all for being reminded of life's joys and beauties. Frankly, that's deep enough for me. Remember, there's no shame in admitting that Williams isn't for you and not giving him any more attention. There's tons of other poetry out there to read with more ideological punch.

Thanks for sharing the background on this poet. One of his books is on my wishlist and I had no idea why. Now I'm re-curious about him. I agree that it would have been good to have provided dates for his poems for the sake of context.

I salute your continuation of this project. What I get from this is that Blitzen had a lesser talent and being unable to properly skewer his targets publicly and thus rouse additional opposition from them, merely made enemies who assigned him quietly to a backwater that made his efforts even more futile. At least that's what I made of the narrative. Given the internet and broad access to both information and a public platform, I'm not sure Blitzen could be as easily silenced today.

There's true pleasure in a well-made book. The paper of the book goes a long way toward making it last--resistant to the yellowing. Nowadays it seems like yellowing begins after 5 years. I've had 50 year old books with less yellowing than a 10 year old book because of the quality of the paper. But let's face it. I need publishers to keep books affordable and I personally am not likely to last another 50 years so I have to side with the cheaper built books.Still, a well made book is such a pleasure.

Loved this - it was the perfect video to keep me going while rocking the baby to sleep! I have a similar outlook when it comes to mu book collection. I love Everyman's Library, Folios and the like, but I'm fairly content with the fact that most of my books will be paperbacks. And it's all the same on the inside anyway!

I had no knowledge of either Spike Milligan or the Aberfan disaster before your reading of this poem but I looked up both. Milligan seems to be a very talented man and what a horrific tragedy.

Thanks for sharing the "pedigree" of the volume you're reading from. I suppose the controversy will never end. You did a great job of working your way through the pronoun ambiguity. I've never agreed with the equating of truth with beauty, but I don't begrudge its emphasis in the mythos of poetry. You questioned the year of 1862 and I couldn't resist looking it up. Dante Rossetti's wife (and model) Elizabeth Siddall died of an overdose of laudanum in that year. Maybe a source of inspiration for this poem?

It's great to hear some Blake. I confess I haven't read him extensively.

Blake and Dickinson - is anything else necessary?

I’ve always had a fair faith in Johnson, and never heard that he’s been superseded. Possibly the other version comes from a tampered source? Not that Johnson can’t be wrong, to be sure, but this would have to be documented somewhere.

I saw the KDBooks video and I largely disagree with most of it. I don't really care what type of video it is because I am watching for the person not the specific content type. I really like wrap ups and Friday reads and hauls (although unhauls I don't care for) because I don't want to hear in-depth thoughts on a book I've not read yet, I want to hear the impression it had on someone I like. I do like a deep dive into things I know well too, so I think there is space for all types of video. I follow 150 odd people and I probably have regular interaction with 30 maybe, but yeah there is very few people I watch every video of and there is a certain amount of guilt involved in that but I think everyone understands. It works both ways though as I sometimes feel like I shouldn't make videos too regularly incase people can't keep up, even though I don't expect people to watch them all. It is a weird thing.