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I mean if you're not worried about restricted polling rate, a Brook Wingman XB3 with the Vader 4 Pro will work. Have multiple friends who play with nothing but that on Series X.

I should mention it does require a tiny bit of finagling. Typically have to unplug and replug the Brook adapter when you turn the Xbox on, then turn the controller off and back on. No issues with disconnecting or anything, but have to do that every time you boot up the Xbox, so slightly annoying if you play wirelessly and wanna use the controller to turn the Xbox on/off.

@@Pordar210 Same, man.

@@bbrandon51 it does not, sorry man. Just answered you on Reddit as well 🤣

@@4gottenWarriors why lucky?

@OldManRob13 I'm waiting to get one and I like the Apex 4 but the wunkong edition is sick

@@4gottenWarriors man it took me a minute to get one. I originally ordered off AliExpress, and like 2 weeks after ordering the seller messaged and said they were out of stock, so had to do the refund process. Ended up ordering through GadgetHyper the second time. Good luck with yours!

@@OldManRob13 was gadgethyper quick?

@ it was exactly two weeks from shipping date. So not super quick, but expected for China to US I guess. It was quicker the first time I ordered from them, like 10 days total I think.

@@stevensv4864 I’ll be honest, tremor might be user error here. But yeah, nothing crazy as far as resolution with the GameSir TMRs. They do feel super accurate though, actually been playing with the Cyclone 2 a lot lately.

@@OldManRob13 well i think it is crazy bc hall has always less steps vs tmr. my g7 se has 120 steps and cyclone 2 1200 steps cyclone 2 is awesome but i think g7 pro will be more

@ definitely not always man, it depends on the sticks themselves. The Beitong Asura 2 Pro+ Nearlink has BY FAR the highest resolution/most steps of anything I’ve tested, and they’re Hall Effect, not TMR.

@@OldManRob13 omg im watching the vid and thats odd, maybe nearlink is doing something for that idk.. but does it really feel more accurate with these numbers?

@@stevensv4864 you’re talking about the Asura 2 I reviewed? It does, it feels crazy accurate. It’s kinda what made me start really diving into resolution testing, and I’ve tested every controller I’ve reviewed since then. Unfortunately, it’s missing way too many features for me to use it regularly. 2 rear buttons, no trigger locks…just can’t do it man.

@4tado i have the blitz 2 tmr and the cyclone 2 , they both feel in another level to aim with, to put it in simple words, it's less over shooting, meaning when i move the sticks i tend to stop moving before reaching the target and then on the target with slightly reduced speed more easily and constantly. That's not just feeling i have other controllers and i do my own testing on Aimlaps. I think there will be even more good controllers next year and they will perform even better for even cheaper prices similar to the cyclone 2.

@@MonderMatrix I’m excited for the G7 Pro you mentioned, and 100% will check out the X30, I loved the X20. The only other i know for sure is the Gulikit Libra Max. But as another commenter said, I think we’ll get a TON of gamepads in 2025 with TMR, high polling, and all the other bells and whistles. 2024 has been a great year for controllers in my opinion, and I’m stoked to see what all we get for 2025.

@@OldManRob13 same as you , i can't wait to see more , i was a guy who usually buys only one controller till it wears out , now all of the sudden i have 5 new controllers plus my old elite series 2 , and i think am not going to be able to refrain from getting more if i see something interesting, it's kinda getting out of control for me lol .

@ lol, man I’m in the same boat. Part of the reason I started doing reviews is because I figured I might as well if I’m buying so many controllers!

@@OldManRob13 okay it's not just me then lol

@@chrisc2801 Thank you! Glad I could help!

@@BouncingBallGames I’ve read that Brook hasn’t figured out compatibility with nearlink yet. I’m not sure if that’s true, just something I saw (probably on Reddit), but I will say none of the 2000hz controllers I’ve tested work with the XB3 adapter. Hopefully they figure it out and it can be fixed with a firmware update.

@@fromBbong yeah, there is. Showed it in the video.

@@tyrohellion they do, actually. Noticeably less.

@@FlipSRT4 lol, I have no idea how you found this, but good job!

@OldManRob13 I just googled "lego quarter circle" and it was the 1st result. BTW thank you for the great content! My son's g7 HE ironman edition just got delivered so I'm excited to do this mod. I don't want to drill and install set screws just in case we need to warranty it.

@@Pordar210 I still haven’t done the grip tape, but it’s my #1 controller as well.

I’ve been considering the grip tape in the last week or so. I’ve been testing the FlyDigi Apex 4: Black Myth Wukong Edition (video next week) and the one thing I really love about it in comparison to the V4P is the rubberized grips.

Same for me, I have the elite but I’m tempted to buy this one, have you got any problems since you comment with this razor controller?

@@gabrock9650 Hey, no everything is fine and i'm glad to bought this controller to be honest, overall the Controller feels really good in my Hands and i dont have Stickdrift, i played a lot the last time. EDIT: i have the Deadzones on the Razer App (Xbox) on 0 Global, hope it will help you a bit.

@@gabrock9650 Hey, No everything is good for me so far, i also play on 0 Deadzones on the Razer App for Xbox ( Global ) i checked call of duty and there are the Deadzones on 3% but it feels very good so far.

@@gabrock9650 No, everything is good so far, glad that i bought this Controller.

@@YEP2X what do you mean, exactly. I play almost exclusively on the Xbox app on pc. I typically have to open the spacestation app once when I first boot my PC or all of the button programming doesn’t work, but after that no issues unless I restart my PC.

@ I can’t get Xbox app to read the controller but on steam and all my other apps are fine

@ sorry, I’m not sure what would cause that. I’ve never had any issue using mine on the Xbox app. I use it every day playing CoD on PC through the Xbox launcher. I guess I would check to make sure the Xbox app is up to date, but you’ve probably already done that.

@ yea I’ma check and update everything

@@OldManRob13 oh i see i need that adapter

@@FlipSRT4 Thank you! So the main differences are honestly cosmetic, but they are shaped a bit differently. I prefer the HE, but I do think it’s mostly a preference thing. If you’d like to check out my Kaleid review, it’s more of a comparison video between those two controllers than anything else, so I go over literally every difference between them!

@@sergiojetro4522 lol, I do know that…I mention it as the best controller on the market in like almost every video.

@@sergiojetro4522 I had like an 8-10 day stretch where I thought I might have decided the Blitz 2 was just as good or better than the V4P…then I went back to the Vader, and remembered that wasn’t true lol.

@@OldManRob13 no really noshit its the best for now , I have this vader4pro and pro is actually way better than opsv3 (I have it too)

@@sergiojetro4522 right, I’m agreeing with you!

@@OldManRob13 nice

I think the input lag is a non issue , the polling rate is not worst than first party controllers and the internal generated delay within the controller seem very low , and the controller still give immediet feed back after giving an input. in PC side of things there are better performing controllers (shouldn't really matter for non competetive games)and on console the lag should be on bar with it's first party counter parts .

@@Yipper64 It’s a pretty unique gimmick. I’ll say even though I’m never gonna use this for CoD/Halo, etc., I think I’ll end up playing fighters a little more often just to use the controller lol.

@@trembledust6819 it’s very solid for sure. Considering doing a Top 5 of 2024 video, and if I do this will likely be on it!

@@StormRage1031 Lower is better. the very first option in Step Precision Settings, above 32, is labeled “Step Accuracy” rather than a number. Presumably it’s 16, but for some reason they labeled it differently. That’s the best setting to use. I know that’s a little confusing, but if you look in the settings, you’ll see the top radio button you can select, above the 32, has the name “Step Accuracy” instead of a number. no idea why they did it that way.

To the best of my knowledge, the difference you're feeling is the hall effect sticks. In my experience hall effect sticks are much smoother, and I believe it's due to the way they work, i.e. magnetic sensors reporting the position of the stick, versus physical components that actually measure the position of the stick in potentiometer thumbsticks. That said, a not small percentage of people prefer the way potentiometer sticks feel, and claim they're more accurate overall. I personally love the feeling of hall effect and TMR sticks, but even if I didn't I think I would advocate for them, just due to the stick drift concerns. The only real complaint I've ever had about hall effect sticks is that they tend to have less tension than potentiometer modules do....but the Vader 4 solved that, too, lol. Thanks for the support!

@ the only thing that conflicts that for me is I played with the bigbigwon rainbow 2 SE before the Vader 4 and to me the sticks felt almost identical and I’m pretty sure tht controller doesn’t have Hall effect sticks

@ I actually haven’t tried the Rainbow 2 SE (or Rainbow 2 Pro), but I believe you’re correct that it doesn’t have Hall effect sticks. It does have a higher bitrate like the Vader 4 though, so I wonder if that’s part of the reason it feels so similar to you. If you liked the Rainbow 2, did you consider trying the Blitz 2? That’s the only other gamepad that’s in the same category for me, as far as my favorite controllers.

@@juventudwatson not that I’m aware of…made cheaper is my guess. That’s why I kinda harped on it in this video. It’s very disappointing.

@ hopefully it’s just software related. If that’s even possible. Not sure if I should just return

Yeah, hopefully…so far haven’t been impressed with the updates, so not gonna hold my breath for sure.

@@666neloangelo666 gotcha, that’s what it looked like to me, too…but yeah. Wasn’t sure if it was actually doing anything on my PC. It does complete eventually, and says “1.04gb free” or “620mb free”, etc. so…maybe? lol

It does, yes.

@@JoaoMXN I prefer the Blitz 2, it’s my second favorite controller right now, behind the Vader 4 Pro. Unfortunately no, I do not measure weight. I might purchase a scale to do that eventually.

@@senpaihachi2691 yeah, it’s def gonna feel bad on the NS setting. Should be in dongle mode, the middle one. Make sure you’ve updated the XB3 to latest firmware, and updated the Vader 4.

Where do i go to update rhe XB3 dongle? Thank you so very much for the quick reply​@@OldManRob13

@ www.brookaccessory.com/download/Wingman%20Series/

Just select the XB3 from this list.

@@OldManRob13 thank you. Your a life save!

@@Pordar210 yeah, I would. Be a very wide margin, to be honest.

@ is the paddle placement difficult to learn? Coming from a scuf reflex fps

@ On the Vader 4? Yeah, the button placement isn’t nearly as good as on the Reflex, but it’s ok once you get used to it. I actually ordered a paddle mod for it on Etsy. I show it in the review video of the EasySMX X20 if you wanna check it out, but it helped a ton.

@ appreciate ya!

@@OldManRob13 do you know about info on the new firmware update bricking the TE variant on the app? I picked up this roller as a temp while I wait for the Vader and as I was updating it, it stopped its progress and the controller turned off. I wasn’t able to get the controller to turn back on and windows usb chime would go off every 5 seconds.

@@Filet-o-Fish-Combo6 I definitely feel that. I love the Blitz 2 now, but it took me a lot of playtime to really get used to it. It feels very different from a typical Xbox style gamepad. Appreciate the support!

Not sure what you mean by "flip switch", but both are reprogrammable, so you can set left as right and right as left.

@OldManRob13 i mean u can remap the Right Trigger and Left Trigger

@ yeah, you can.