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Bottomline for all commander tables: Communicate with each other about the amount of board wipes, each table will have their own philosophies. I love this video because it is so specific about why we gather in the first place, have fun and interact with the board. Talk about what kind of decks you want to bring to the table before you gather for maximum interaction. 🤗

I bought this deck, because of this video. Great job! Please keep up the good work

Hi! I love your deck, i try play this and enjoy the form how the deck moves, thx for the idea bro. Just one think, how you play minas morgul, the dark fortress in this deck, pliss enlighten me!

That seemed like a very well thought out mana base. A great point about card draw being a consideration on mana.

I understand this to basically mean your idea is to allow another player to win instead of resetting. I have a different perspective on your thinking (assuming we all have similar power level decks): 1) you not doing everything you can’t to win is about as much fun as dunking on a six year old. 2) a single 30 minute game and two 15 minute games equal the same play time. I would prefer a single intense back and forth game over two blowout games. 3) it is wasting my time if we play but you’re not trying to win. It essentially creates a three person game with a fourth eating up time on their turn. 4) Players spend resources to stop your threats, but you won’t spend yours is more selfish than not. 5). Everyone has different opinions and all of them can be framed as “helping the table”, but in the end they are all equally as selfish. To me, this way of thinking is the same as trading all your properties in monopoly for a dollar. It ignores the work and time I invested in the game for your desire to quit. I don’t think you are wrong but I don’t agree. I guess this is why we all have a play group that we gravitate towards. Still, thanks for your thoughts on this. I’m off to play warp world because I have fun annoying my play group 😂.

Feed the algorithm! Good stuff

For me the best commander games feel like a conversation where a player will present some sort of threat and then the rest of the table will try to answer it and that happens back and forth until someone wins.

I agree for the most part with the core idea of this video. However, my personal issue with board wipes is a bit more specific, exiling wipes, modal wipes, and 'nonland permanent' board wipes often just lead to unfun situations at most tables I've been to. I've never seen Farewell cast in such a way where it has lead to a more fun game. I understand that it could be used to pin-point wipe and create a winning situation but I've never encountered it in the wild.

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I solve my mana problems by playing using 99 lands.

Complaining about board wipes is a sign of a skill issue.

Sauron lord of the rings reanimator deck 🐸

Why was Graveyard overdrive picked here I ve never personally played the deck but heard a lot of negative things about it

I put saw in half in my henzie deck for extra etb/death triggers but it also gets around the sacrifice requirement that henzie gives your creatures when blitzing them! And like you said, it can also be used as some sort of situational removal. It instantly became my favorite card in mtg, stil planning on putting it in my meren deck but its sadly not budget friendly

Played a game against someone the other day that claimed to be new to the game, then proceeded to rattle off all of the Boros BS possible to pubstomp me and my friend. Tefer's Protection, The One Ring, and a third similar effect that I forget at the moment. Very un-cool and un-fun. The only thing I will remember is that there will not be another game.

I'd like to make an odd suggestion--swap out the dual lands for their Snow equivalents, where possible. This would mean Arctic Treeline instead of Radiant Grove, Highland Forest instead of Wooded Ridgeline, Rimewood Falls instead of Tangled Islet, and Woodland Chasm instead of Haunted Mire. This sounds dumb, but allows you to run Into The North as a second Farseek. If you replace the basics with Snow basics you'll also be able to use it as a Rampant Growth in cases in which basic land count matters. The latter use case probably isn't as important, but being able to run a second copy of Farseek is definitely worth it.

I was pleasantly surprised when I first discovered how many dual lands there are that can enter untapped but aren’t too expensive. The pain lands are great, and so are the check lands, reveal lands, shadowmoor/eventide filter lands, and odyssey/fallout filter lands.

Love your videos, please keep up the great work!

Yeah, green makes mana bases a alot easier. Making a manabase without green is a bit more challenging

My approach to budget manabases is printing the cards. Seriously, there could be an argument about proxying and jamming the one ring into your precon, but as far as lands go, everyone deserves to have, at the very least, every multiplayer land, every both-color fetch and every shock, as well as typed triomes. These plus surveil lands and verges are sufficient for an excellent mana base for casual play. I draw the line at alpha duals/cradle.

I have a commander deck of krark/sakashema and all the commander plvl calculator websites say its a pl 5 deck. And no one can make it work, but when i play the deck, i can make it work just fine even with on turn 4-6 on average. i dont get how, unless i built a pl5 sleeper.

Im also playing Sauron with heavy focus on amass and Counterspells. Very fun

I've been modifying my Najeela budget manabase after a couple of games. I started with mostly basics and some utility lands (Urza's Cave and Rogue's Passage) and lately been switching between check lands, pain lands and a couple of the new DSK check lands. You gave me a couple of ideas for my mana base so ty for that!

I've built a lot of 5C budget bases and you have a lot of the great bones here. Personally, I think you can mitigate the mana base a ton by using things like Spelunking and Tiller Engine. Being a little slow in the early turns isn't terrible either, as you're often not worried about those turns and getting something that helps cheap lands work more effectively helps your deck operate a lot quicker often enough. Even throwing in an amulet of vigor as one more option rather than spending a ton on lands will be a great way to encourage that speed for much less money. If your whole land/ramp package featuring things like those enablers is $100, that's a lot easier to swallow and play a deck you love and not worry about it being able to hang in your average group well enough to get the 20-30% win ratio that makes it feel worth it. Any less and it starts to feel like a deck you don't want to play and any more and your friends groan whenever you pull it out and that's another reason to not want to play it

Just a quick reminder: The Slowlands are getting a reprint in innistrad Remastered. Probably a good time to pick em up

Fantastic video! I love the spread sheet for testing and definitely plan to try making something similar for testing my own decks early ramp. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos!

Excellent video as always dude! Keep it up

You can cut checklands for the Odyssey filter lands. They’re incredibly underrated for color fixing. Chaining a few together should make any combination of colors you need

I recently built a <$50 budget experience counters deck with Jodah at the helm and I've put together a 36 land $4(not including basics) mana base with 13 land ramp spells/effects in the rest of the deck and so far I've had little to no trouble getting all the colors I need by turn 4 or 5 to get jodah out and then continue to pay for the costs of all the 5cmc legends and recasting the mander when it gets removed. If anyone is interested or if you'll allow it I can post my decklist

I would change a few cards. First, one triple tap land cut for path of ancestry. In a 3 colors + mana base with budget in mind, this should be an auto include. No deck should cut it if an other tap land is in the deck. Next, i would put battle lands, ie enter untap if 2 basic lands. I cut the tap lands with type, because battle lands are stricly better: they also have type. Next i would put 1 or 2 mdfc from modern horizon 3. Im thinking about the black/green and green/red. I would not cut any lands for them. They would be consider spells.

I need some advice: I'm trying to do a Yore Tiller Vehicle deck, and while at least 20 cards are colorless artifacts, I worry about playing 4 colors without green land ramp. My idea was to focus on drawing, so instead of ramping out of the curve, I can at least consistently hit a land drop every turn, and hopefully drop some mana rocks with secondary benefits, like *Cursed Mirror* . The commanders are *Akiri Line Slinger* and *Silas Renn* , so at least they can come out easily and hold on for a while until I can *Anchor to Reality* a *Reaver Titan* or *Knight Paladin* and burn for game.

Just slap in all the 5c producing lands, slap the roof of your deck, and then say “This baby can make all the mana”

Why no path of ancestry??? It is a strict upgrade to each tapped three color tapland and sometimes even cheaper to optain. I play it in all decks with 3 or more colors. Even if no other creature shares a creature type with the commander you will still get a scary for casting your commander.

Yoyoyo, another great video, thank you for your insights! Throwing fancy lands should not be the only solution for all mana base problems, this video really makes me think differently. What's your opinion on this? I tend to include as many fetch lands as I can in some of my decks, even for two-color or mono-color decks. In my opinion, they can thin your deck to a certain degree, helping you maintain a decent land drop and avoid drawing too many lands in future turns when you need spells instead of lands.

unfortunately these are not gates so you are WRONG and CRINGE everyone should buy 1000 copies of sage of the maze gond gate and baldur's gate inshallah

Love it

I find that for either partners or any other commander oriented deck with a relatively low commander cost Great Hall Of The Citadel can be a crucial colour fixing land.

Secret of making a good 5 color deck is that it's actually a green ramp deck ;) OK to the subject of the video: you've completely ignored a cycle of mh3 common lands that enter untapped, give colorless mana and tap-search for a basic of 3 colors. You can control when you do the "tap" of this land. If you really need to hit the colors, you can run both them and 3color taplands, you can still consistently cast 2-3 mana ramp with colorless mana they provide. Another tapland people don't mention is Path of Ancestry. All 5 manas and costs around 20 cents. Cascading Cataracts might be good or bad depending on what you want to cast - if getting hard combinations of colors is worth spending 1 extra mana. Next, universal untapland that costs circa $5 is Fabled Passage. Also "Enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more other lands" (not basic) cycle of 2color lands. Depending on the color combo can get pricy, while others are fairly cheap.

Surely path of ancestry is a better option than one of the tri colour taplands at it can tap for any and scry?

Would love to see you on any of the big gameplay shows!

Excellent analysis as always. Before edh I never played much magic and am always annoyed by spending $10+ on a card which is free or non-existent as a mechanic in other games. Cheers!

Wooo! A new shot of dopamine!

May i ask why you run every painland but not include murmuring bosk as a fetchable land? Or replace sandsteppe citadel?

80% basics. You won’t get any lower with me. *boom problem solved.

Genuinely I have no idea what you're doing if you don't proxy lands for EDH.

it's very simple. look at the CMC of your most expensive card and add that many lands. (if you add sol ring you can cut one) hope this helps.

I totally understand the sol ring sentiment but to me i find its one of the things that helps do one of my favourite things about commander: playing overcosted cards together. If i have that extra two mana just a little earlier in the game, my impossible jank combo or interesting synergy or even broadly unplayable card can actually have a chance to show itself off instead of wasting away in my hand for most of the game

8:32 both myself and and people some people I frequently play with are tournament Fighting game plays but super chill in edh, I guess that follows.

I feel like you're the only person (there is one other) who makes EDH videos that actually understands the function of the format.