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Thank you lol, I was never 100% on my list being anywhere close to objective, I just sort of wanted to share what my impressions were after my playthrough

Maybe a 15-20gb

@Malzenomamador3412 Thanks but can you check I don't want to have to uninstall another game

@@jennifercox6541 i have it on xbox, 15gb is the size on xbox, maybe on ps is different

I’m not 100% sure, I played through the game on Steam, but like the other guy said I think 15 GB sounds right

You’re all good and sorry if I maybe went a little overboard with some of the negativity lol. The reason I talked about engage instead of 3 houses is that I only wanted to talk about games I that came out in the 2020’s and 3H missed the cutoff by a little bit. And also, I don’t know if it’s just that I haven’t played in a while, or if some of my tastes changed a little little bit since it came out, but I didn’t find three houses to be nearly as intrusive anyway

@@JakeGigs oh shoot I've been so lost in the 3H sauce for so long I totally forgot it's from 2019 lol. and no worries, it's your opinion after all! I think the reason the RPG stuff is easier to deal with in 3H is simply because the story and characters are way better and more interesting so you actually like WANT to interact with the systems of learning more about the characters and world. at least for me. also that exercise minigame in Engage is a war crime for sure

Yeah honestly I do kind of agree with you in regards to the 3H story and characters. I definitely found myself to be a lot more immersed in the world and characters quite a bit more and it was a lot more interesting seeing a lot of the different houses dynamics play out rather than doing…. the exercise mini game lol

Oh hundred line academy I forgot about that!!! Yeah, I’m super looking forward to that game as well it just looks so fantastic

I can definitely see what you mean, especially with new class seven being sort of meh. I do really like altina though

Interesting interpretation. It’s been a while since I’ve made this video but I don’t think I specifically said either of those games were bad exclusively due to their difficulty. I think cs4 was kinda lazy in the sense that a lot of the boss fights and characters sorta felt incomplete with all of the guests and scripted segments and I just didn’t find a lot of the daybreak team building and skills all that interesting compared to the rest of the series. I wouldn’t make an entire video on the series if I didn’t like it, I just had a few negative things to say about a few of the games

I think the merchant line strong because tycoon is absolutely broken, but merchant itself doesn’t really have anything that strong in my opinion. I think the extra money is kind of nice and the early game access to almighty damage is kind of convenient but I’m just not a fan of these more inconsistent classes not to mention that the synthesis skills it’s gives you access to are so bleh in my opinion. I never really hungered for extra mag or money outside of the early game and I guess traders summit is kind of ok when you’re healing with items, but those are all just things that get completely outclassed at least in my experience

@ almight physical carries though, wayyyy beyond 2nd worst class

@jhon1406 i’m definitely open to the idea that my list isn’t 100% accurate, and it could potentially be much higher than second worst But even in that case that the weak version of almighty is on its own is just not as strong without all of the stats and other resources of better classes. But yeah, like I said, I didn’t 100% to get all of the experience of trying it out maybe as extensively but this is at least the thought process that I went through in making the list

Ah my mistake then lol. In my defense it is worded a bit peculiarly

@ yeah it is

I definitely appreciate all sorts of aspects to these kind of games but yeah from the overall loop perspective of the game the gameplay of what I’m playing is definitely what I find to be the most important, but I still do appreciate the story

My fav part about trails is the character and world building but the gameplay is also the charm imo especially the sky and crossbelt games

When the temporary characters are done in smaller doses. I also really don’t mind but I just felt like cold steel 4 really overdid it, at least in my opinion. And while I definitely also agree that the series has never really been all that difficult, I still found daybreak to be by far the least engaging whether it was due to the difficulty, or me not really finding any of the move sets or skills all that interesting either. And also things like I just hated a lot of the side quests. Although I do really think the battle system in daybreak had a ton of potential, so that’s why I’m still pretty excited for the sequel and also Kai because I really do feel like it has the potential to be the strongest with some tweaks

@@JakeGigs I personally thought that daybreak had some of the best side quests in the series simply because of how much story goes into them. The best example of this is the one with the kid doing drugs. You can visit the family and talk with them throughout the entire game, and feel bad for the kid with how his parents treat him and each other. The resolution to this plot line in the quest that lets you not only stop his addiction brought on by his parents treatment of him but also help the three of them work out their problems. This quest has the entire game setting it up for you and there are plenty more side quests like this as well, the one with Jess and the two siblings to name another.

I like tycoon but I feel like merchant just is kinda rough in combat with a bunch of these skills. I do however like all the extra gold

I kinda see the appeal of the big roster I like all the micromanagement of having to customize all these characters I just need it to be fleshed out sufficiently. But I can kinda see where you’re coming from as well. Leave it to the trails subbreddit to downvote any and all somewhat differing opinions

Yeah I’ll admit the ranged action field combat was kinda neat. I was frankly horrible at the action combat so that actually might have been useful for me lol

@@weepingblade its not a bug just really bad wording that lies.

Yeah I did end up realizing about that after making the video. That’s so weird how it’s written like that

I do think it’s really strong by that point I just feel like the pre-requisite for all that is kinda rough and comes into play too late

I just feel like with how late they come in they are just hard to call as useful because most of the bosses you can’t use or rely on them. I do think that they’re strong but I wanted to at least keep availability in mind when making the list. That and spreading them out more gave the list a little more variety I feel like

Yeah we don't have the same views specially with prince considering the moment you get him you can start melting human bosses with his synthesis now i know it's late but you still can use price out of all the other Royal archetypes the fastest and I get it at that point the game is already ending but... It's just that most other archetypes do their jobs but none is as flexible as prince not even the seeker line if something I think the previous two archetypes of the Comander line are better than warlord for their availability and usefulness that an faker with those two and probably samurai you can beat most things with peerless stone cleaver maybe throw in sniper or dragon if ya really want, over all i kinda see your point but we still have diferent views

I definitely agree with you in the sense that I really do think that the royal archetypes are strong, but idk in my mind I feel like I have to at least knock a couple points off for their limited availability. Like they’re so strong but pretty much 95% of what the game is asking you to do, they’re just unavailable. Not that I’m detracting their usefulness for the endgame, but even then at that point, I feel like I already had a pretty strong set up that I was confident in. If there was a little bit more end/postgame content for them to be used in, I would definitely place them higher, but outside of the tower trials and the final human gauntlet I just didn’t feel like they brought anything to the table outside of that Prince is so fucking busted though yeah I had to put that all the way up lol

Wat, how can you agree about Thief being the worst? “Plunder Magic” is my counter-argument

I really like it too!

Merchant was such an important class to me early on in the game. And since Tycoon becomes an incredibly important class later on, Merchant was an essential class for many of my characters to master

Its best role for having strike for that one fight before Brawler is funny.

Healer lineage is crucial to inherit skills from. If you disagree, it's safe to say you haven't played on hard or regicide.

items and Seeker work well enough. I only really ever used inherited Hama from it for like 3 fights total.

It's your only source of dekunda though

@@M1sterE321 I fully played on hard but go on. It's only needed for skill transfer

At least we can agree on that!

Thank you for leaving a comment explaining what you disagree with rather than just calling me wrong lol, because reading and hearing about other players perspectives and experiences was something that I was really looking forward to when making the video, and I really do appriciate hearing your opinion on my list and the classes. While I don't entirely agree with everything you said it is refreshing to actually have more of a dialouge about it, and it gives me a better chance to maybe explain why I placed where I placed, and some more of my thought process. And this is not me trying to explain why I think I'm objectively right, or that you're wrong, but rather just using the comment section as a way to have a discussion about the game and the balancing. I will definitley admit that I might have undervalued the thief a little bit in terms of it's dodge tanking potential, and that's def something I'll keep in mind to try if I ever play through the game again. And like I said I wasn't able to equally try out every single class in every situation so I am glad that people are letting me know about that, but I still do feel like in terms of what I found to be the most successful party lineup in the game, it just didn't really have as much of a place. I ended up finding a lot more success in regular peel tanking with party wide buffs and enemy debuffs. I haven't truly tried the dodge tanking lineup as much as I fully could have, but in my impressions when researching and writing the script it really felt like yeah that's solid, but it doesn't in theory at least in my mind stack up quite as much, because there are a lot of bosses with multitarget attacks that I think that the dodge tanker couldn't protect the rest of the party from as well. And I think generally a lot of the classes that I did place lower are the ones that just get outclassed by other classes that just do the things better, so even if thief is good at tanking, in my experience in my first playthrough I just had so much more success with other things, and maybe yeah there is a little bit of bias built in there, and that's definitely something to keep in mind for future playthroughs. The reason that I feel that assassin, or more specifically, assassinate isn't as good is because I feel like the game gives so much incredible access to enemy party wide debuffing that anything that was single target debuff just was inherently valued lower in my head, because in my mind it covers any situation a little better, and that's why I have things like soul hacker and summoner closer to the top. My mind will definitely never change on faker though probably, most of the skills are just on so many other classes with other added benefits, aside from maybe debiliate, but even then that's still not as good or efficient as other classes like once again the summoner, or literally any other class that has access to debuffs on attacks. On the topic of the rng move I probably will never change my mind on that either as anything where you have to rely on getting lucky, even if you technically CAN reroll over and over again is something that I feel like is just inherently not as good as the things that you can count on and plan on consistently working as intended. The main thing though yeah I completely agree with you on is how the regular encounter enemies don't matter in the slightest. Those battles are literally decided by who stuns who in the active combat, and the literal only times I ever game overed in this game were because some random enemy hit me in the field, so my rankings are for the most part ranked based on their performance in boss battles, and the ones better for the regular. encounters are just inherently placed lower.

No, I definitely think tycoon rocks, like you said gold rush is just an INSANE skill. But I can’t really say the same thing about merchant unfortunately

@ I was joking, I get you. But through my first play through being hard. Farming and getting money is all it was good for early game

Love me some warlord

Yeah I can definitely see that. Unfortunately I wasn’t around during the marketing phase so I never saw the trailer exclusive cutscenes that you’re talking about, so I am going to check those out now. I really do wish this game did better financially and critically because I really do think there is a good game here, and its failure might discourage atlus from doing stuff like this anymore, and limiting a lot of their big releases to persona spin offs and one mainline game a decade. Also nice profile picture by the way!

I definitely can’t or won’t pretend like my list is 100% objective or factual, but I am curious what in particular you disagree with

Yes, Thief is so important. Plunder Magic makes dungeon runs possible without wasting many days. Steal on normal enemies can result in rly great weapons and equipment procured. The class itself may suck to play as but the inherited skills are ESSENTIAL. It is the only class all my 8 characters have at least 13rank to. It is an essential class imo. To see it ranked at the bottom def was not a good start for the video for me. Also crazy to me to see Paladin ranked so low. The counter skills become very important to use against bosses that have so much turns

That is good to know about hyper thank you for correcting me. And yeah I totally agree with heismay having some INCREDIBLE utility with royal thief, but with unlocking it literally so late into the game I just really didn’t get much use out of him

@JakeGigs it isnt just royal theif though knights proclaimation, naturally high agi and agi buffs or debuffs. Buy dodger ring as early as possible and heismay becomes the best tank then and there.

I definitley feel as if commander has infinitley better stats and skills, notably things like heartbreak strategem, as well as one of the strong combo pieces through vigor formation, and its synthesis skills are some of the best support abilities in the game, so I'm way more lenient towards its strike weakness. I also just think the healer line in the game is not very good. Same with like faker where on paper its not that bad, but when there are just classes in the game that do it's job just as well, if not better, as well as in general providing a lot more, it just makes them feel borderline useless. In the healing department I personally got a lot more useage out of the cheap healing items paired with item connoisseur, and even outside of that there are quite a decent amount of healing skills on other classes. Magic Knight's Mediline specifically pairs extrememely well with a lot of the formation spam. It's definitely not that I feel like healer is unusable, the only unusable class I would genuinely have to say is the early thief line, but it's just so pointless, as well as having these big weaknesses.

Really? While I love Yew and Magnolia, I never really cared for Janne and Nikolai all that much. Edea became my favorite character in the series thanks to a lot of her growth and characterization in the side quests, and I honestly couldn’t imagine the game without her

@@JakeGigs idk I liked the vibe of the party. Edea is easily the best character but making a new game with only 2 new playable characters is kinda sad I think. Nikolaï Yew and Jeanne had this whole three musketeers aesthetics and I think the party could have been neat. Who knows tho it could have been terrible.

@forseti5774 no I definitely see your point, and perhaps my opinion comes from I played the full game first and the demo afterwards so my opinion on them was already locked in by the time I played the demo. I can easily see it having been a good party for the full game though, but I still am not upset with what ended up happening either

I definitely did not look up anything online I like to play stuff blind, and the problem was’t that I didn’t have to optimize my party every fight. The problem more felt so that I made a couple squads early on, and they pretty much worked as an all purpose counter for every single encounter. I agree, having to change everything every single fight would be a little ridiculous, but at least every chapter would’ve been nice to make me feel a little more engaged.

Yeah, that is definitely something I’ve noticed based on a lot of comments lol. But yeah, I totally agree with how it’s cool that the same list of games can have totally different rankings across different individuals

Same here!

I couldn’t even imagine having to play through it at walking speed the whole time

@@JakeGigs it was torture. And I did all those pointless side quests too. Guess I hate myself haha. And after I was done with the game they anounce the patch. I was so mad haha

Maybe one day!

All the critics are going to give it a 10/10. That’s usually a very bad sign.

I guess time will tell, but personally I think I’ll be way more into this

9/10*

@@andrebaxter4023 nothing about this game is extraordinary, plot is not groundbreaking, character design is okay, graphics are okay enemies are okay, music is good, its a typical above average game tahts it

@@tellheryouloveher Tell that to Baldurs Gate 3

I think you definitely raise a good point, and I didn’t necessarily mean persona specifically. I do feel like persona is the one time where the protagonist should be silent because of what you said and how just it’s supposed to be the players self insert in the lifesim aspect as well. I more so meant like I don’t think it necessarily serves a lot of their other games very well.

I certainly hope not!

btw all of the UI could be in an art gallery, no way it is that beautiful.

Yeah I kinda feel like I have the same thoughts as you. I completely agree with the idea that yeah I really do think they absolutely know what they’re doing

I might actually replay the demo myself as well!

I might miss it a little cannot lie

We’re getting closer!