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It would be if I had a shop with a smooth floor to roll a jack and engine hoist on. A buddy of mine splits tractors pretty regularly and uses 2 trailer jacks bolted to the engine 1/2 and rolls it forward as a unit. Honestly would be easier that way than how I did it with my dad using another backhoe

I have an entire playlist for the transmission rebuild on my 580ck, a lot of the fundamentals are the same for all tractors

@@Timberland-Farms Watching now, thanks!

Yes the bell housing is in a hydraulic oil bath The gears will grind shifting if you’re moving even the slightest. Shuttle control lever needs to be in neutral

@@Timberland-Farms thanks! Yes the shuttle lever is in neutral and after I start the machine and try to put it in 1st it grinds when stationary with the clutch fully depressed. I was thinking something is worn out or needs adjustment.

If it’s a torque converter drive you shouldn’t need to depress the clutch pedal

Thanks for watching!

I loose traction with that massive hoe on the back, must be tough without it. Do you have a MOD hitch? I have one so I can swap back and forth I’m a husky guy but a sharp saw is the best saw for sure

@@Timberland-Farms it has a 55 gallon metal barrel filled with concrete on the back. It’s been in the family for over 25 years and we bought it that way. I don’t think it ever had a hoe on it

@Jacked97Ram that should hold it down good! They made them as skip loaders, these machines had amazing loaders and loader work transmissions for the time period

That’s a good idea especially when it’s cold. My dad with his 580K lifts the back tires up and lets it run in gear to warm up

@@Timberland-Farms does your accessory side of key stay hot when in on position? Mine did and the heater stayed hot, damaging relay before I got it. I put a momentary button beside key now ran through on side to heat intake. I wondered if the accessory and on position connected had another thermal breaker that tripped instead to kill power to heater after a bit?

@deecember69 I’m in the middle of the “restoration” (I’ll use that term loosely) so I currently have no wire harness in it, just battery cables and a button switch for the starter

@deecember69 this backhoe had a momentary button beside the key switch before hand

@@Timberland-Farms It looks great! Keep up the videos they help us all!

I think around 40 horsepower or so. I use it to square bale currently, pulls a small square baler, thrower and rack wagon without too much trouble. Runs out of power and traction with 200 bales in the wagon up hill in 2nd gear low range Lock the diff and drop to 1st low range and it does just fine, gets you by for the last 20 or so bales till you get an empty wagon again

I was moving it around to move my center of gravity, putting more weight on the rear tires or, moving it to get around obstacles

Seals are pretty good actually and it doesn’t drift, even left overnight

Brakes on these old case tractors and backhoes were definitely less than ideal. Much room for improvement from the engineers. What lever is in question?

You have to have the shuttle in neutral and at a complete stop in order to change gears. You should get a normal operating temperature, most equipment is usually 100 degrees Fahrenheit above ambient temperatures

Near Binghamton NY

@@Timberland-Farms not far from here, just bought a 420 IH all twine in preparation for next season. Enjoy seeing the older equipment still being used!

@baker4030 I do have to say, this 430 IH I have is very picky on the twine I use, ended up using thick plastic twine, tractor supply twine is nothing in comparison to what I got from a local farmer, not sure where he gets it but it’s around a 250 lb break strength

So I just did a test run and enrolled a few round bales, after some adjustments it kicked out 47 bales with no breaks. I used sisal twine from TSC think break point was 350 or something. Every form I was reading said use the cheapest sisal twine because that's about what they used when the baler was made... idk but I'm happy with it so far lol

@baker4030 I think the sisal is about the same diameter as the new plastic I found, might have to do with the twine diameter

Do you have fuel and compression? I know these engines can be tough to prime the fuel system

About 20-30 minutes from Binghamton area not far from the Pennsylvania state line. There is definitely a lot of nice scenery here, love some of the views and sunsets I get to see here in some of these hay fields

Thanks for subscribing, we have a change of weather here so Sunday will be a change of video, I am beyond pumped to make more hay

@@Timberland-Farms Sounds great. If you ever get bored enough, I could use another subscriber. Small farm and historic home. Take care!

For sure, I’ll have to check it out

This video is from forever ago when I was a young kid, but now today in my line of work, there’s no way of getting around it so I guess I will roll the dice

Buddy of mine buffed and ceramic coated it for me a few months ago

I believe I saw this in a case backhoe group on Facebook yesterday or a couple days ago, sort of sounds like forward and reverse are trying to engage simultaneously

This is the first real job I’ve had for this machine, I bought it nearly 3 years ago in pieces, got the motor in to find out the radiator was bad, fixed that to run it long enough to find out the transmission was bad. Fast forward this spring, rebuilt the shuttle assembly and now it feels unstoppable!! Good stuff on your overhaul! Glad you get to enjoy the operators seat like i do! Such a blast!

@@Timberland-Farmsglad to see the shuttle rebuild is holding up!!

@boatman19607 had some hiccups inbetween but I got them sorted out, I’ll have to explain in part 2

Thanks for watching! I’ve got one more to attend to this weekend and an upcoming video tomorrow from my last truck pull

@@Timberland-Farms ill be waiting for it

Thank you! Hope to have you on the next video

I think I found one more place to go pull so I’ll be able to make 3 out of 4 local pulls

Thanks for watching! Hope to see you on the next video

I have seen that before not too long ago. Definitely something to prevent

I got the frictions from Intella parts company. They are part number a41355 They are $11 and change each at the moment intellaparts.com/p/CASE-A41355/case-a41355-disc.html

Nice thanks man!!! How’s your 580 CK running?

@@boatman19607 runs great, got a big upcoming project for it before snow and

Good news and great job BTW, you made it look easy (which I’m sure it isn’t).

Thankfully I had my dad here to guide me(a heavy equipment mechanic)

My first time with a kicker and it’s such a back saver and is cool to watch

J.I. Case used the 188 diesel in many many machines. They were in the 430, 530, and 630 tractors with different injection pumps to change the respective horsepower. The case 430ck, 480ck, 480b, 480c, 480d as well as the 530ck, 580ck, 580b, 580c, and 580d all had the 188 diesel as options. The 148 gas was a standard option for the 430 and the 159 gas was the standard option for all other listed models plus more but many were purchased with the diesel. Even the crawler loaders and dozers came with the 159 gas and 188 diesel like the 310, 350, and 450 crawlers. Some later model construction equipment could have been purchased with a 207 diesel also as well as the larger frame farm tractors

@Jacked97Ram you might like my 2nd gen 98.5 24v. I have a few older videos of it from last year. I will be sled pulling with it in 2 weeks and will be uploading some footage from that

Tons of info there, thanks!

@Jacked97Ram no problem, if you have any questions, go ahead and ask away! I have this 430 diesel as well as a 580ck that I just did a transmission rebuild within the power shuttle assembly on this spring, I made a multi part video series on that large project. I’ve still been tinkering away at the backhoe here and there and hopefully it will make another appearance or two on the channel before snowfall

It sure can! It could be fed faster too but it was my first time with this set up and i chose to take it a touch easier to get a feel for it before going to full capacity

It sure was! It was a hot one

Thank you! Trying something new. I’ve got a few more ideas coming up too!

Lots of times I use it to move 4x5 round bales without anything on the back. Only one tire has ballast loaded in it

Cdl laws and regulations are federal but double check. I’m in upstate NY, 20 minute drive to PA on I-81

I got my information from fmcsa.dot.gov (federal motor carrier safety administration) a CDL is not required when the GCWR (gross combined weight rating) is less than 26,001 lbs UNLESS the driver is transporting hazmat or more than 15 passengers. Defined in section § 383.5 Effective date : Thursday, March 7, 2019 Some states make laws and regulations adding or subtracting from federal laws, and those regulations are good across country like if PA (your home state and where your business is) says you do not need a CDL for XYZ vehicle you are operating but you are in NJ that has laws stating you need a CDL. PA laws would be in effect for you as a PA resident

www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration/commercial-drivers-license/driver-combination-vehicle-gcwr-less-26001-pounds-required

Rock on! It’s a handy tool to have in the knowledge box

Thank you, I’d like a 4x4 air conditioned tractor but I got into this cheap so I can’t complain. Our farm is all about a tight budget!

@@Timberland-Farms I was too dumb when I bought my first tractor! LOL.... Our budget is much tighter now!! But I can't complain about the 4x4 capabilities and what that has gotten me out of, and the air conditioning in KY is priceless..... especially this week!! Looking forward to more awesome videos Anthony!!

I like it so far, the pickup could stand to be a bit wider but I think I’ll offset my drawbar to make up for it. It’s definitely an animal to my neighbors John Deere 14t I borrowed until I got my 430 and got it operational. That throw saves my back so much

In the next week or two I’ll be posting a baling video, be sure to check it out!

I’m glad I got it done and over for sure, it will come in handy now it’s operational

It’s a buddy’s welfare that runs off both 220v and 110v. I have it plugged into 220v set up with 75% argon 25% carbon dioxide mig but typically run flux core because I always have to work outside and the shielding gas always blows away causing porosity

I don’t even have a shop lol, I do all my work outside and with hand tools. Some day I’ll have a shop. For huge projects like my backhoe transmission rebuild I can go to my dad’s and work out of his shop that has every tool ever needed. But I have to work outside there too because he is always working on something of his own inside

The book says it will lift around 3,500 lbs and I believe it. If not it could potentially lift more. Check out my build series on this machine. I ended up finding a clean set of loader arms off a donor backhoe I intended using for the transmission. The machine came out great. Thanks for watching!

It definitely took some time and several trips to and from to finally get it going between battery and carburetor issues but it finally started after sitting who knows how long

It seems like a very thought out platform by the engineers

I got most of my parts from eBay and my local case IH dealer. I found the clutches on an online website I’ll have to look to see where exactly I found them

I got the clutch frictions from intella parts company online

I think it was a fair trade, and we both ended up with something way more useful for our given situations

Thank you. Look forward to next one coming up

Ideally yes, previous owner warned me against it due to a possible hydraulic issue in the transmission causing cavitation within the hydraulic pump and I wanted to run it as little as possible until i confirmed it won’t destroy the pump by running it. It still has a few kinks to work out but it’s becoming a very nice machine

Sounds like you have water in your transmission oil. If you have a power shuttle machine like mine, they are very picky on the transmission oil. They take HY-TRAN or comparable like a TCH fluid. Hydraulic oils are typically hydroscopic, which means they attract moisture and trap it with the oil itself. It’s designed so water does not get trapped in your hydraulic system. I suggest you replace all your fluid. If that’s too pricey you can sometimes get by with a turkey fryer and “boil” the water out of the oil. Maintaining 212°f or more for several hours until the milkyness dissipates. As for the filer, yes my machine has a transmission filter located behind the grille in addition to a hydraulic filter located on the loader mast framework that is in charge of the attachment hydraulic like the loader and backhoe attachments

@@Timberland-Farms thanks for the info. How do I know if I have a power shuttle? I went to the dealer and they told me to put 80-90 gear lube in the transmission I think this is wrong information.. I can try to post a pic of the machine so u have a better idea. Mine is late 60s I believe and has the ROPS I believe it’s a ck580 B but I’m not positive

@justindailey4265 the 580B has twin cylinders on the hoe side by side unlike my 580ck in the video. I only have the one cylinder on the hoe. One for the stick and another for the bucket, no twins. And yes it takes 80w-90 gear oil for the transmission. That is where the 4 speed transmission and rear differential is located, it is separate from the shuttle assembly. Do you have a forward and reverse selector on your dash? Do you have to clutch to change gears or directions? The power shuttle is clutchless and has a foward and reverse selector on the steering column or dash with a 4 speed transmission

@@Timberland-Farms my hoe looks like yours, I have a forward reverse selector on the dash, no clutch the gear pattern is a 4 speed with a start position, there is 3 covers on the floor. One where the west is attached one with the shifter and the one under the dash. I pulled the dipstick on the one under the dash and that is where I have water mixed in the fluid. What is that chamber?

That one under the fuel tank and steering column is for the torque converter, that holds the TCH/hytran.

Possibly chewed up gaskets or fuel line from mice

Very cool! I wish this tractor was diesel but it will still get the job done, now I need to find a round baler for next year

@@Timberland-Farms Our family has had really good luck with the Case IH 8465 round balers. They were made right around 1995. We just bought another one for $5000 and it only had 5000 original bales ran through it in its life.

I’ll have to keep my eye out for one of them then, I’m always up for a bargain

I might end up with a 730 some day . Only time will tell. Thanks for watching! Please share with a friend, I am always eager to grow the channel!

Is the width adjustable? If it’s not it’s probably a 430ck based axle very similar to the front axle on my case 580ck backhoe. These tractors were offered with several different axles

It is the early model diesel . It is called the Heavy duty axle . Not adjustable and lower than yours . The injectors were changed in 1965 and they are everywhere and cheap . Mine is no longer made even aftermarket , the tips are available only by injector shops .

Yeah, funny how that works out

And they Both broke the same day ? Front axle bearing on the case and Needles or ? , on baler…..

Yeah oh and I got the 430 stuck with the neighbors 14t baler. Baler was buried up to the axle. Neighbor pulled me out with her John Deere 2010

Yes I actually do, his tractors are really nice, he’s done some good work to them both