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A BIG YEAR OF WARCRY! My 2024 Year In Review
Happy holidays everyone! 🎅 Join me for our annual year in review of Warcry and Off Meta Musings as we celebrate another successful year of tabletop skirmish games. Looking back at the exciting developments in Warcry, let's explore what Games Workshop has brought us this year and peek into what 2025 might hold.
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What's Coming NEXT for Warcry in 2025?
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Join me as we explore the future of Warcry and why the rumors about a new edition in 2025 might not be what they seem. As a dedicated follower of the Warhammer Warcry scene and skirmish games in general, I'll share my insights on why Games Workshop might take a different approach. Looking at the current state of wargaming, I explain why the age of sigmar skirmish system may continue on its curr...
I Show You MY WARBANDS Fom Over 2 YEARS OF WARCRY
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Join me as I showcase my collection of Warcry Warhammer Warbands and share stories about each warband from two years of competitive play. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ✅ JOIN MY DISCORD discord.gg/TREMKu8ZJj ✅ USE MY LINK FOR ELEMENT GAMES! NO COST TO YOU, A DROP OF SUPPORT TO ME elementgames.co.uk/?d=11241 ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:32 N...
WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE IRONJAWZ ERRORS!
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There were a couple of problems with Ironjawz in the September update so I asked Games Workshop for the answers. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ✅ JOIN MY DISCORD discord.gg/TREMKu8ZJj ✅ USE MY LINK FOR ELEMENT GAMES! NO COST TO YOU, A DROP OF SUPPORT TO ME elementgames.co.uk/?d=11241 ▬▬▬▬▬ MORE BY ME ► www.offmetamusings.com/ FACEBOOK ► fa...
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEW RULES? Off Meta Talk #5
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I'm back today answering YOUR burning questions about Warcry, How to Play, Listbuilding and More! ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ✅ JOIN MY DISCORD discord.gg/TREMKu8ZJj ✅ USE MY LINK FOR ELEMENT GAMES! NO COST TO YOU, A DROP OF SUPPORT TO ME elementgames.co.uk/?d=11241 ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:19 The Best Team For Intro Games 00:02:43 Ca...
I Asked Hundreds of People How They Play Warcry: HERE ARE THE RESULTS
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Join me today as I dispel the myths and tell you exactly how the Warcry Community REALLY plays. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ✅ JOIN MY DISCORD discord.gg/TREMKu8ZJj ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:36 A Caveat 00:01:17 What Type of Player Are You? 00:03:36 How Do People Build Their Warbands? 00:07:29 How Many Warbands Do People Play? 00:10:28 ...
5 GREAT WARCRY LISTS That Never Saw Play
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I go to a lot of events during the year and there are a lot of lists that never make it. Today we take a look at 5 of my favourite. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:01 Double Trueblood Stormvermin 00:04:47 Machine Gun Slaan 00:07:37 High Impact Doubles SBGL 00:11:24 Teleporting STD 00:14:02 Resurrecting Skaven Hord...
Using the new UNDERWORLDS BOXES IN WARCRY
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The new Warhammer Underworlds boxes have been released so join me as we go through them and decide if they are worth it or not for your games of Warcry. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro Order 00:00:41 Heroes and Hunters 00:01:05 Hexbane's Hunters 00:02:14 Myari’s Purifiers 00:02:44 Thundrik’s Profiteers 00:03:49 Ylthari’...
Warcry Bloat IS GETTING OUT OF HAND: Should Games Workshop Rotate?
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With the warcry roster of fighters getting bigger and bigger, today I look at set rotation and if it would be a good thing for the game. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin ▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:26 What Other Games are Doing 00:02:27 Slimming Down The Compendium 00:05:06 They Have Done This Already! 00:08:16 Stuff You Can't Buy Anymore 00:...
Have You Fallen Out With Underworlds? USE YOUR WARBANDS IN WARCRY INSTEAD!
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If you aren't happy with what happened to your Warhammer Underworld's Warband in Embergard, Warcry has an alternative. ✅ SUBSCRIBE @OffMetaMusings ✅ JOIN ua-cam.com/channels/1UeOTArjkN_n7T_JIoQ8eA.htmljoin STARTING WARCRY WITH WH:U ► ua-cam.com/video/UV8qIJDIf7Y/v-deo.html WARCRY: YOUR FIRST STEPS ► ua-cam.com/video/kyrFyIriCyc/v-deo.html WARCRY ONLINE RESOURCES ► www.offmetamusings.com/p/warcr...
The TOP 5 BEST Warcry Warbands ft. Rob @3Heroes1Chaff
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The TOP 5 BEST Warcry Warbands ft. Rob @3Heroes1Chaff
SPIDER SWARM IS AMAZING! Warcry Tournament Report Oct'24
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SPIDER SWARM IS AMAZING! Warcry Tournament Report Oct'24
HOW TO PLAY TARANTULOS BROOD
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HOW TO PLAY TARANTULOS BROOD
Are the CHRISTMAS BOXES any good for WARCRY?
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Are the CHRISTMAS BOXES any good for WARCRY?
DOES UNDERWORLDS GATEKEEP WARCRY? Off Meta Talk #4
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DOES UNDERWORLDS GATEKEEP WARCRY? Off Meta Talk #4
The Age of Sigmar WARHAMMER HEROES is here.
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The Age of Sigmar WARHAMMER HEROES is here.
TIRED OF GETTING BEAT? How To Win This Winter ft. @wargamesontoast
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TIRED OF GETTING BEAT? How To Win This Winter ft. @wargamesontoast
WARCRY Solo-Play! The WARCRY COOPERATIVE PLAY Mission Pack
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WARCRY Solo-Play! The WARCRY COOPERATIVE PLAY Mission Pack
7-1 NIGHTHAUNT! Warhammer World and Tabletop Scotland Warcry Tournament Report Sept'24
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7-1 NIGHTHAUNT! Warhammer World and Tabletop Scotland Warcry Tournament Report Sept'24
AUTUMN '24 WARCRY TIER LIST! Winners and Losers ft. @wargamesontoast
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AUTUMN '24 WARCRY TIER LIST! Winners and Losers ft. @wargamesontoast
HOW TO PLAY The NEW Ruination Chamber in Warcry
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HOW TO PLAY The NEW Ruination Chamber in Warcry
HOW TO PLAY The NEW Darkoath in Warcry
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HOW TO PLAY The NEW Darkoath in Warcry
IRONJAWZ ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW! Warcry Autumn '24 Breakdown
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IRONJAWZ ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW! Warcry Autumn '24 Breakdown
NEW SKAVEN in WARCRY! Warcry Autumn '24 Breakdown
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NEW SKAVEN in WARCRY! Warcry Autumn '24 Breakdown
WARCRY AUTUMN 2024 FAQ BREAKDOWN
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WARCRY AUTUMN 2024 FAQ BREAKDOWN
WARHAMMER WORLD & TABLETOP SCOTLAND! Sept '24 Warcry Tournament VLOG
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WARHAMMER WORLD & TABLETOP SCOTLAND! Sept '24 Warcry Tournament VLOG
Ranking ALL One-Box Bespoke Warbands for Warcry
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Ranking ALL One-Box Bespoke Warbands for Warcry
NIGHTHAUNT 2nd PLACE! Bad Moon Cafe Tournament Report June '24
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NIGHTHAUNT 2nd PLACE! Bad Moon Cafe Tournament Report June '24
POOR SHOW GAMES WORKSHOP!
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POOR SHOW GAMES WORKSHOP!
SHOULD I Come Back To KILLTEAM?
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SHOULD I Come Back To KILLTEAM?

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @mikelmazzi7978
    @mikelmazzi7978 2 дні тому

    Just joined the discord! I got the warcry virus and I am spreading it in my local club. I am building and painting lots of warcry terrain so that I can soon host events. I am one of those players who switched from other Warhammer games and I really like the card systems for the scenario. Looking forward towards your new content.😊

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 2 дні тому

      Welcome aboard! The more events that run the better... even if it does mean painting of more meat trees :)

    • @mikelmazzi7978
      @mikelmazzi7978 2 дні тому

      @ very true! Airbrush goes pfffffffffffffffft. 😄

  • @jesubudallah
    @jesubudallah 3 дні тому

    Ye man thanks for being such a big asset to the warcry community. Iv only started playing this year and its my first time playing any table top game. Your videos have been a massive help and you have answered a few questions iv posted on reddit. Appreciate everything bud keep going have a nice xmas

  • @vicr5665
    @vicr5665 3 дні тому

    Thank you, Sir, for all your hard work and great content. Greatly appreciated! Keep the Warcry banners flying proud next year.

  • @clownhater7329
    @clownhater7329 3 дні тому

    I am in a similar situation in tegards to gaming time (young family so can't play regularly) and want to start going to events. Your contents is really helpful in that regard. Is there a good way to find events? Just typing Warcry events into a search engine?

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 2 дні тому

      Anything organised via Wartally will be listed under upcoming events; wartally.com/wc/tournaments/public Though not everyone uses it so probably local facebook/whatsapp gaming groups might be your best bet. If you are in the UK then Warhammer World also lists it's events via eventbrite

  • @TylerBelmont
    @TylerBelmont 3 дні тому

    Thank you for all your insight on this game. I just got into it this year and your videos have been a huge help and inspiration for learning and trying new ideas!

  • @markruffalo8761
    @markruffalo8761 4 дні тому

    As somone trying to get into warcry, I am weary about watching too much "how to play" or list building content because most of it is a few years old and so much has changed. Revisiting some old videos would be really awesome for somone in my situation

  • @Auri597
    @Auri597 4 дні тому

    Thank you for all the work you’ve put into this! I got into Warcry about this time last year and your consistently thoughtful, wide-ranging, and high quality content has been an absolute boon in understanding what the heck this game, how I can have fun, and how I can share that fun with other folks. I hope you and yours have an excellent holiday season and looking forward to all the great things to come in 2025!

  • @TheWhiteWhale593
    @TheWhiteWhale593 5 днів тому

    What I’d like to see in 3.0: -No new warbands for next edition (except for 2 new bands for the 3.0 starter set). -All releases are additions to existing bespoke war bands (especially new leaders). -Implement co-op/collaborative “pve” mode as well as narrative heavy “solo” mode to entice customers who have limited options for gaming groups or little time to game regularly. -Expanded Multi-player pvp to include larger boards -Go away from 2 band quarterly big boxes to single band smaller boxes. Bi-annual “big box” to include 2 bands and good terrain. -More streamlined approach to errata and FAQs

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 4 дні тому

      all decent ideas. if you want to play pve now i totally made a video for that ;)

  • @3Heroes1Chaff
    @3Heroes1Chaff 7 днів тому

    agree with you @ayonmetar2301 we have match play stuff and tons of good missions that randomize it. Pro tip for your ironjawz invest in waaaghs t1-2 youll get everywhere lihgtning fast. ferocious gnarlwood 2 missions are great and there are at on of balanced community missions. the cards are fucking terrible.

  • @Ranookswierdstuffs
    @Ranookswierdstuffs 7 днів тому

    WHAT is bro TALKING about lmao

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 7 днів тому

      I *think* its about how the Death Grand Alliance plays in warcry but honestly... I'm not sure XD

    • @robertviscomi8199
      @robertviscomi8199 7 днів тому

      I am talking about the BS that soulblight grave lords can do. They have a leader that can fly 8'' and then resurrect. Hordes/swarm in this game needs to have a clearer direction. I also believe in fun abilities that should direct the game.

  • @michaelmartin2262
    @michaelmartin2262 8 днів тому

    As some one completely new but interested in this, is there someone where you can see the miniature units of each warband groups? Factions?

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 8 днів тому

      as in what's in each faction? the actual rules of each can be found over on warcrier.net For actual miniature pictures, all the new warbands are still for sale over on GWs webstore. For the older ones, I think you'll have to do a google search unfortunately

  • @mikaelforssander1721
    @mikaelforssander1721 8 днів тому

    So here are my thoughts. It seems that every faction is going to get a bespoke warband in 2.0. so that leaves us with 3 more boxes (skaven, gitz, slaanesh, ko, idk and dok). The obvious pairings are skaven-ko (treasure hunting), dok-slaanesh (a classic) and then gitz-idk. They seemed to have changed the release period for there skirmish games from q3 to q4 so my guess is that we are going to get a box each quarter with the next one being revealed at LVO and released late q1. Then we are going to get a new edition early in q4 set in Aqshy. As others have predicted it will be in either the ruins of Embergard or Blight City. The big thing will be that it’s going to include mdf terrain order to keep the price down and be a spiritual successor to Mordheim. And in the next edition they will probably only support the bespoke warbands from 2.0 in order to keep things balanced.

  • @LimakPan
    @LimakPan 8 днів тому

    Investment reports show that GW loves to promote new editions to its investors, as they always generate big sales. I think we'll get a new edition of Underworlds before a new edition of Warcry, but it should be here around summer. That late timing would explain the lack of leaks as well. IF we get a new roadmap instead, then I'll believe we won't get a new edition until its over.

  • @josemarta4312
    @josemarta4312 9 днів тому

    Just saw them at target on Monday the 16 and got one

  • @philipbowles5397
    @philipbowles5397 9 днів тому

    I still think the most likely scenario is that the game is dead, and that the reference to adding units referred to nothing more than 'completing' the game with the releases a couple of months ago. They haven't bothered to add the latest Underworlds warbands. I suspect it will remain on sale for another year or two as Aeronautica did and as Titanicus still is, but with no ongoing support. White Dwarf support has dwindled to being just reprints of stuff from the campaign books. If it does continue to be a supported game, I think it will be a new edition next year - as you point out the faction bloat is now overwhelming, and it isn't going to help that the stuff with Warcry packaging is usually not as good as Age of Sigmar and Underworlds stuff - not intuitive for new players. So they'd likely restrict official support to Warcry warbands a la the new edition of Kill Team. The failure to do anything with the Underworlds stuff seems to be exactly the same 'can't be bothered' approach as Aeronautica. Though they've laid decent groundwork for a new edition that removes the AoS and Underworlds stuff - there are only 6 AoS factions (Sons excluded) still missing Underworlds warbands, two of which would probably be in a new edition starter box. One argument for a new edition is that GW simply hasn't gone many new editions 'coming due' next year - AoS, 40k, Underworlds, Middle Earth, Kill Team, Horus Heresy, Epic (as Titanicus is no longer actively supported), WFB and Necromunda are still within their cycles, leaving only Blood Bowl, Warhammer Quest and Warcry as options if they want a new edition of one of their games next year.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 9 днів тому

      hah, I don't necessarily think that comparing whats happening in Warcry to Aeronautica is all that useful; AI had a slow, painful death where everything was basically on short order, and they got zero actual balance patches with a matched play book a few months before it was finally shut down. Compare that to warcry where like the content or not, noone can deny that it's getting support in terms of FAQs/Errata and faction updates.

  • @ayonmetar2301
    @ayonmetar2301 9 днів тому

    "Narrative" and "casual" focus sounds like an excuse to not have to balance things. I think one big reason the game is way less successful than it could be is that most matches (both in Battle Reports shown on youtube or played by actual new players) are with random win conditions, starting positions and twists. 70% of those randomly drawn setups are so unbalanced that the match is barely worth playing. Having all three groups of your slow Ironjaws spawn on one side of the board to have a win condition requiring them to achieve something on the opposite end of the board while a -1 inch movement twist is active results in 3 turns of desperate double moves to then fail the objective because there is only one round left to achieve it. Seeing whose leader dies first is also not really fun when playing fragile Hunters of Huanchi against a warband with a 300 point leader. Bottom line: Match play setups should be the standard for the game and all the whacky narrative stuff should be flavor you can add when fair battles start to bore you and you want to have fun with friends. Nothing is lost that way but new players don't stop playing after 2 battles because the randomly drawn setup favored their opponent. I've seen that happen several times now =/

    • @jonhythelast
      @jonhythelast 9 днів тому

      Big disagree. In casual games that inherent imbanace and asymmetry of the game is its main appeal and its flow, where you have to adapt your warband to the unexpected and play the hand you’re dealt. But yeah in a competitive setting it is bad.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 9 днів тому

      I talked about this in the actual main video for the short that it might have only really been April last year at warhammer fest when they had that (to them at least) surprising takeup of the matched play event they ran (50 players, almost double their WHU event). Being the slow company GW is, it kind of makes sense that it took them almost a year to start taking matched play seriously and make a real effort at game balance.

    • @3Heroes1Chaff
      @3Heroes1Chaff 7 днів тому

      @@jonhythelast thats fun for narrative and open and agree with you - terrible for comp.

    • @Fpsdood
      @Fpsdood 5 днів тому

      @@jonhythelast i doubt you play much or you play the same OP warband every match im sure.

    • @Fpsdood
      @Fpsdood 5 днів тому

      the random dogshit ruins matches, but everyone veils any "feels bad" behind the fact its suppsed to be ~casual~ and ~narrative~ instead of just admitting its not fun to lose to the scenario and hardly anything your opponent does. theres a big reason why its not more popular and why every group i see built up around WC falls apart in a few months.

  • @Tombonzo
    @Tombonzo 10 днів тому

    Awesome stuff!! Love it. So obviously, and I didn’t know this, conversations must be ok to use in official tournaments?! Because I thought it wasn’t allowed?

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      Yes of course they are allowed. The general rule of thumb though is that the minis have to be all GW minis, on the same base size, represent what the actual fighters are armed with (so that they arent confusing to your opponent) and are roughly the same size and shape (to avoid modelling for advantage)

    • @Tombonzo
      @Tombonzo 9 днів тому

      @ - Ok good to know!! Thank you, and Awesome stuff!

  • @Banaanivatkuli
    @Banaanivatkuli 10 днів тому

    Next setting should be the Blight City itself, the ramshacle Skaven city/subrealm that is what bursted to each realm. Mordheim/Vermintide vibes and access to every realm so any faction warband can just walk in from anywhere. A lot of verticality for terrain too. Co-op vs AI mode of players vs the Skaven Horde like in Kill Team and the Vermintide video game would be the new shiny gimmick while the basic rules just collect all white dwarf etc rules and condense them to a simple easy-to-learn package.

    • @spf10k
      @spf10k 9 днів тому

      I'm in.

  • @checkedsteam9226
    @checkedsteam9226 10 днів тому

    this really isn't true at all. the christmas boxes have always been great value, especially the 2 previous years. Yes this year is def worse compared to the other years, but saying they're purposefully selling "bad kits" is just wrong, a lot of the models in the boxes sell pretty good on their own still. GW as a company is very easy to criticise, no need to make up arguments...

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      I don't agree with this, sure the boxes are good value in that the stuff you get in them is sold at a hefty discount compared to full rrp but the actual composition of those boxes almost always has miniatures that ultimately GW needs to shift; Sure from a marketing perspective its a good idea, and they will be good for some people but a company that doesn't do sales or promotions at any other time of the year aside from launch boxes to choose these kits to box up is telling of their strategy.

  • @wired_ape
    @wired_ape 10 днів тому

    I have no idea what’s coming, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they follow KT and get rid of compendium and narrative play for a new edition. The difference being that they may still allow underworlds warbands in Warcry. I think this makes sense from a sales perspective, starting from the smallest game and you can work your way up (underworlds -> Warcry -> AoS), but can’t work back down the ladder. And setting it in Aqshy also makes sense, as they already moved underworlds into this same setting. The other option would be to move it to the other city founded by the twin-tailed crusade from the narrative of AoS, but I don’t know if that would really make much sense from a lore perspective. Also, I think a new edition next year, as what games are left to have new editions to boost sales? This year was AoS, KT, Underworlds, LotR, Old World. So to try to keep sales up, releasing new versions of games is the best way to do this from a business perspective.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      I actually think that the churn of games editions has actually resulted in a lower quality overall of games 'out of the gate'. Especially Killteam and WHU where if the world championships of warhammer are to be believed, both shipped with some pretty big balance issues (any kind of space marine KT and/or the Gorechosen of Dromm). Sure they can fix them further down the road but it does alot to hurt the playerbase good will if they constantly have to release day 1 patches on all their games. I would almost prefer that they stretched it out to a 4 year edition or something so that they can spread out their releases and test more effectively.

    • @wired_ape
      @wired_ape 10 днів тому

      @ I 100% agree they should have longer life cycles, but I also feel like GW know that people will keep buying new editions, and so will keep up the shorter lifecycles just to keep the shareholders happy. I think that 5 year cycle for games would be good, especially the bigger games, as they release the new battletomes/codexes right up until the new edition, leaving those players feeling like their army can’t compete.

  • @Xelcir
    @Xelcir 10 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think there's a definite shift between Warcry 1 & 2 in terms of goals & writing. It definitely seems like the addition of Compendium was a bit of an afterthought in 1.0, & they were much more baked into the mix of 2.0. that said I agree that all of 2.0 was probably developed at the end of 1, & I think it seems like they didn't have any concept how good they'd made a lot of Compendium stuff with the changes between editions, nor how much the focus would shift away from Narrative. Looking at all the things that came in the Ghur books up to & including Battle Traits they seem focused on Narrative play. The focus on Reactions (which seem mostly around using Renown to use) seems like a big indicator of this as well. On the flip side, almost everything in White Dwarf that wasn't a reprint of things in the box books was focused towards Matched & open play, & because of a seemingly much quicker turnaround in printing, is much more topical to the community. Lastly the FaQ seems to be trying to catch up & adjust to issues appearing at events, & new AoS releases. Unfortunately the three sources don't seem to be cross-referenced or communicating all that well internally. I think that surprise turnout might've been a big turning point for Warcry, where prior to that I think they might not have been putting a lot into developing Warcry, & it seems like the best explanation for our current radio silence but simultaneous support is that they are still in development for what Warcry is doing next. My personal hope is that there's a minor revamping of rules to lessen the gap between Competitive, casual & Narrative play.

  • @pablovalenzluela84
    @pablovalenzluela84 10 днів тому

    They announced more bamboo to paint

  • @FossilFracas
    @FossilFracas 10 днів тому

    I LOVE GHUR! I hope we have MORE GHUR for the next YEAR.

  • @1brushstudio
    @1brushstudio 10 днів тому

    If anything, I think we need less factions and far fewer choices. At its current state, the game is just so huge and completely overwhelming to newcomers. Especially those of us that (naively?) thought it would be bespoke vs. bespoke warband, and not "smalls and talls" with little to no room in the meta for the 100 point 4424 guys that actually have "WARCRY" on the box, EDIT: I don't remember if it was you saying this, but someone suggested to merge all similar profiles to streamline things (like one entry for every variant of say Chaos Warriors), and I think that this would be a great start for a "2.5 ruleset" that could last us well into the new edition (and preferably beyond), as there's already so much bloat (especially in factions like Sigmarines and S2D that gets constant new AoS releases on the regular).

    • @BingusMcdingus57
      @BingusMcdingus57 10 днів тому

      I agree with you however I don’t want them to do what they did to killteam. killteam removed list building from the game. In killteam it’s mostly bespoke box vs bespoke box. I recently switched to Warcry because of the massive amount of customization available to players. Yeah my lists might not be ideal for competitive play but it’s fun to make warbands and being able to use a lot of the sigmar models I have collected.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      Yeah that was me; There are alot of superfluous profiles for fighters that either 1. aren't effective enough to even want to take, or 2. don't actually exist anymore because the kits have been updated since then. When I took a look at it, just removing those kits GW doesn't sell anymore, and mashing those profiles together would reduce the total fighter pool by about a third which is pretty significant.

    • @MrEyescream
      @MrEyescream 10 днів тому

      i kinda disagree with you there. Yes it is too big if you want the to play a huge amount of warbands in different size and shapes. But if you are a new player, you could easily stick to one, two or maybe three bespoke warbands. Our group startet with Warcry because it is easy and "small". Most of our group members have only one or two warbands, and they dont want to look into blessings and battle traits because it would be "too much/complicated". Hohever, my problem is the rate and quality in which the FAQs come in. So far, the balance in this game is kinda random. I would say they dont know what they are doing, but we have to keep in mind it is a company that sells miniatures. The game system, rules and balances are only a byproduct to sell more minis so game balance is not their strength.

    • @1brushstudio
      @1brushstudio 10 днів тому

      ​@@OffMetaMusings Thought as much. Well, it's a great idea, so hopefully they see the merit in slimming down a bit.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      @@MrEyescream blessings and traits are optional rules anyway so you can totally just not use them if they aren't for you :) I think when it comes to game balance; everyone wants a game where they feel like they've got a chance and errata/faqs are part of that as well as maintaining a manageable pool of fighters to actually balance around. The 67 warbands we have right now with 1600+ fighters isn't really conducive to that. Interested to hear your thoughts on the state of the faqs/errata though - I thought that for the last two at least, there were clear goals with both of them? the first was an overall balance pass to address some of the more egregious pieces being used whilst the second focused on bringing all those old bladeborn from the tome of champions 2022 up to modern pricing.

  • @anotherzingbo
    @anotherzingbo 10 днів тому

    I don't feel persuaded by your arguments for why we won't be getting a new edition next year. Outside of the Specialist Games studio GW seems very keen on their 3 year cycle - people don't pay for FAQs, but they do pay for launch sets, and a new edition is a good way to drum up interest in a game. If Kill Team hadn't got a new edition this year then I would be more inclined to believe that the 3 year cycle is going away, but as it is and given the way GW has trained its customer base, if they don't release a new edition of Warcry next year they'd probably struggle to keep the community's interest in the game going.

    • @KDB1042
      @KDB1042 10 днів тому

      100% with you. Not to mention the game has rules scattered all over the place. While it's on a fan site nothing is collated on to the official site. This game has slowly been hemorrhaging interest locally for months to Kill Team and Halo Flashpoint and a new edition would reignite interest in the game here knowing that it's still being supported by GW. With how much of an improvement KT 2024 was over the last edition I'd be excited to see what the team can do if they sat down and did a soft relaunch to bring everything together.

    • @anotherzingbo
      @anotherzingbo 10 днів тому

      Oh and it's only really 40k that suffers from extensive leaks, presumably because that's what the majority of people are interested in. The leaks for other games are considerably more erratic, I can imagine something like Warcry flying under the radar most of the time when it comes to leaks.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 10 днів тому

      this i totally agree with; GW really needs to collate all of their rules in one place; at the moment we have divine blessings in white dwarf, battle traits in briar and bone, various bladeborn in white dwarf, other bladeborn in the tome of champions 2022, and updates on warcom. They should just put them all on warcrom and be done with it.

    • @tiredguy2753
      @tiredguy2753 4 дні тому

      Compared to something like kill team, spearhead and heck even MESBG tis all quiet on the western front for warcry. So I have to assume that something "big" is coming for warcry in the future as I don't see GW quietly killing off warcry. But at the same time the silence regarding warcry is a bit, perhaps a slight bit alarming.

  • @Mastermindz0r
    @Mastermindz0r 10 днів тому

    I really hope that Ghur and the Gnarlwood is over. I can understand the appeal from a lore perspective but I found all of the terrain to be pretty boring and one-dimensional, making it hard to use outside of the specific campaign setting.

  • @danielandrew6334
    @danielandrew6334 11 днів тому

    Luv the vid, runs with what I am thinking. Current Theory, New Warcry gonna be based in the Gnaw, with skavenified ruins, Starter box gonna be some kind of cities skirmishers versus Eshin agents (to replace the nightrunner / GR kits)

  • @toferkrz946
    @toferkrz946 11 днів тому

    I don't think anyone would consider stuff like Deathwing Knights and The Lion, or new Ardboyz and Big Pig, or the newest Flesh Eater kits, or Cities of Sigmar, to be 'poorly selling kits'. I think your bad faith bias is showing.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 11 днів тому

      I mean, minis like the Lion; GW only sells them once, and then only to actual dark angel players so as a byproduct they have a whole bunch of them sitting on store shelves unsold

  • @GuntherCloneC
    @GuntherCloneC 11 днів тому

    How would you sort out the final Skaven list? I'm assuming two of the groups are Skabbik with a Bodyguard, Skritch with a Bodyguard, and how would the rest be sorted out?

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 11 днів тому

      It's 11 fighters so you are looking at a 4/4/3 loadout. I'd do something like this; Skritch Stormvermin Packmaster Hungering Skabbik Stormvermin Stormvermin Festering Packmaster Skritter Lurking The reasoning is that Skritch is very much a support character so doesn't need a whole lot of stormvermin support on the first couple of turns. Skabbik benefits much more from being untergetable so he gets two. 2/3 groups have a skaven resurrect target (Packmasters/Skritter), and every deployment gets a Skritch resurrect target so there should always be at least 2 on the field and in most matched play missions at least, Skritch will be on the field turn 1 66% of the time.

    • @GuntherCloneC
      @GuntherCloneC 10 днів тому

      @OffMetaMusings Thanks a ton. Loving any excuse to run Skaven only lists because in the lore, they'd NEVER work with anyone who isn't Skaven I'd think.

  • @billwrosch
    @billwrosch 11 днів тому

    Love to see stuff like this. I think we often assume competitive players don't care about the hobby side, and the hobbyists only play casually. But it's good to see someone who does both!

  • @spiegel487
    @spiegel487 11 днів тому

    Ok so late to the party on this but rules as written can prince Duvalles triple bring back the minions from the exiled dead?

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 11 днів тому

      yes totally; Any SBGL hero can use the generic soulblight resurrect to bring back any soulblight minion (including the exiled dead, zondra's gravebreakers, etc.)

  • @dmeep
    @dmeep 12 днів тому

    This was a very enjoyable showcase with some cool conversions and nice looking teams. for next time perhaps have a bigger picture of the warband the frame on the left side is wasted space and you being a third of the screen is also suboptimal. a tiny you in the corner with maximum screen real estate for the minis would be an improvement.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 12 днів тому

      Point taken for the next one in 2 years :)

  • @sweetmanedu
    @sweetmanedu 13 днів тому

    Love the warbands! Very inspirational...

  • @GlassHalfDead
    @GlassHalfDead 13 днів тому

    Lovely stuff! I was thinking of doing something similar, but you've got great conversions in here.

    • @OffMetaMusings
      @OffMetaMusings 13 днів тому

      Many thanks :)

    • @Tombonzo
      @Tombonzo 9 днів тому

      @@GlassHalfDead - Does Kill Team allow these kinds of conversations in Tournament play?

    • @GlassHalfDead
      @GlassHalfDead 9 днів тому

      @@Tombonzo Kill Team is relatively strict about base size and overall silhouette of the model, but if you've got those sorted, then MOST tournaments are going to let almost everything else slide. There are of course good proxy and conversion guidelines to follow when it comes to representing certain weapons on certain models to help your opponent figure out which operative is which, but those are less firm than base size and silhouette. The answer is always to check with the TO of the specific event.

    • @Tombonzo
      @Tombonzo 8 днів тому

      @ - Thanks! I’m a sub on your channel(s) as well, though I just started playing Kill Team. You can see that I Love my skirmish games.

  • @itsodelk
    @itsodelk 13 днів тому

    Wow, these conversions and paint jobs are really good! Amazing video, it was really nice to hear the stories behind the warbands and see all the things you've done ro personalize them

  • @clownhater7329
    @clownhater7329 13 днів тому

    Some really great conversions and painting in there. Makes me want to push myself to build a warband from scratch.

  • @TheNewHottness84
    @TheNewHottness84 13 днів тому

    Sweet Models man. I really dig the color pallet, paint jobs and basing. Good work man!

  • @Ennomen69
    @Ennomen69 13 днів тому

    The lack of Dwarfs hurts me!