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Appreciate all these recent podcasts with Taijiquan full-contact fighters like Alan Wycherley and Mike Graves, debunking traditionalist fallacies and purist gatekeepers. Thanks to Alan Wycherley for fighting the good fight (pun intended) for Taijiquan and all the work you do! 🙂 Also, I think it is a healthy mentality to be honest about certain skill sets not being relevant for other rulesets in combat sports, or even "self-defense". BJJ competition is a great example of how many crazy guards or submissions can develop out of a dynamic between two highly trained opponents, but will only exist in that modality because of the ruleset and to display superior skill, which is not likely to happen on the street, may even be overkill, and in fact counterproductive against an untrained opponent with other factors not accounted for. I think it's okay to appreciate a skill for what it is inside a modality as long as it's with a measured perspective of context.

So I just listened to the whole podcast. I have been studying xingyi for about 20 years, not as my primary martial art but I have devoured everything I can on the subject. I also train boxing and kickboxing with a bit of wrestling, and I do have a background in karate from back in my childhood. I love xingyi, however I have had to come to a conclusion: xingyi does not teach a person how to fight empty hand. Every instance I can find of a xingyi trained practitioner engaging in either competition fighting or realistic sparring, they look basically like relatively untrained kickboxers. That is, their fighting method looks like basic kickboxing (but not as good as a basic kickboxer who trains kickboxing at a kickboxing gym). You and your guest mentioned in the podcast that there are people who actually can fight with xingyi, and it looks like xingyi, because they are using the actual techniques and movements taught in xingyi, rather than just trying to tack some xingyi ideas onto kickboxing or some other martial art (or vice versa). But I tend to not believe it, because surely they would have appeared somewhere? It seems to me that xingyi requires a massive reinterpretation and translation of the techniques and movements learned, in order to apply them in actual sparring or fighting. Whereas kickboxing leads to the same end result but far faster and more efficiently. Nobody does piquan in a fight the way they practice piquan in the form. But a boxer does a jab in a fight the same way they practice the jab from day one in the gym. Also, some of the techniques taught in xingyi (as well as most other Chinese martial arts) seem to be wholly ineffective. Slapping the opponent's forehead, or slapping with the back of the hand on the opponent's face, for example, simply isn't going to do anything productive to a determined opponent. And the majority of xingyi "applications" I have seen appear to focus mostly on pushing the opponent away. But nobody bounces away 10 feet just because you do a double tiger palm strike to the chest or abdomen, or because you do an upward snake palm strike to the opponent's armpit. These are simply not realistic fighting movements or techniques. How to explain these things? Is the "real xingyi" just going to remain invisible and unseen by everyone, with unnamed "masters who can really do it" staying in the clouds of unverifiable claims? Or should we come to the hard conclusion that there are indeed systems of "martial arts" that simply don't work?

Interesting stuff

I trained with Lam a few decades ago and ppl said Lam eased up over the years. The stories of the early days were that he lived in a rough area and had to defend his shop, organized scraps between his students and others and would go outside and iron palm lampposts and knock out the bulbs. We trained staff with zero protection. I still have wounds. We also did wooden and metal swords and knives if I recall. Choi Li Fut was great. We used weights on wrists. Zhan Zhuang was better 121so either you tried to get those lessons or joined groups and were put in the corner for an hour. I still wouldn't say it was hardcore and not as much as the original Raymond and post Raymond students recall it. I also studied in Beijing and this was another level. 3 hour lessons as many days as possible. 5 years minimum, if not 10, of just basic Zhan Zhuang I would say were the minimum. There were very very few students as training was too hard. Occasionally people from other arts would try out and give up. Sthg I never understood was if Wang Xiangzhai made a superior art and he and his students beat everyone, including bag, tai chi etc, why did hardly anyone do yiquan and why weren't the fighters famous. My only conclusions are that it was too hard, fighting was dangerous i.e. hurting ppl led to jail but also damage to you, as we saw many famous fighters die early. Otherwise, perhaps all these stories were inflated.

Amazing

He’s amazing in that he has this tough guy not afraid of anything, this scientist dedicated every moment of his life to his craft and then this light hearted happy go lucky person laughing and enjoying every moment and diving into expressing himself. Then you combine that with he was unbeatable and the biggest action star in the world to this day. Well that’s quite a person.

Wat year was the bruce lee Wong jac man fight

Woow is a secret of art Thanks so match

Nice.

Nicely done. I think I like her voice better than his. Will give this a shot with my novels and blog posts.

Looks good

Why not just talk? :( Tai Chi generally doesn't insist on specific points of control, should be able to take the balance from any point of contact, but this is a good way for a beginner to start getting the idea I think.

Really crazy that this was made from AI, though there are still weird telltales like coming back from the non-existent "break." The repetitiveness of the okays from the female speaker drove me crazy. It feels like her affirmatives are coming slightly before they should be. I wonder what the editing capabilities are to fix weird quirks like that.

this is truly crazy ai.

Very impressive! Feed it an article and it makes a pod about that article? Crazy

“We’re back”. Back from what?

This is fucking insane

Thank you ❤

Can AI please avoid matching the overuse of “like”?

What podcast is that from?

29 minutes in - Google 'Reticular Activating System' :)

cool

I honestly think John Little should be not the Joe Rogan podcast.

Hit as the rear foot lands

Such a great video - thank you - I am starting to learn to help with my chronic migraine. I posted a link on my blog to help others find this (themindfulmigraine.blog/2024/01/17/tai-chi/). Thanks again, Linda x

Beng chuan rear foot shuffles up and roots to support the fist

For the readers of the book: Maybe interesting for the one or the other, but i like to mention something about Lee’s punching speed and the timer which John mentions: „Curious as to the actual speed of Bruce’s punch, Jesse had a friend, Gary Barhnhard, an electronics student, devise a means of testing it. He created an electric timer. He wired one end into a light switch and the other into a cutoff switch attached to the back of a small pad. The timer started the instant the light was turned off. It stopped when somebody hit the pad. Jesse would kill the the light, and Bruce would hit the target. Jesse and Gary told Bruce to strike the pad from varying distances and, after each hit, they recorded the data from the timer. From five feet or one and a half meters away, his time was eight one-hundreths of a second (0.08 seconds). From three feet or one meter away, his reaction time was a mere five one-hundreths of a second (0.05 seconds).“ This quote on page 61 of the book leads the reader to believe he could react + punch in 5 and 8 one-hundreths of a second. But this wasnt the case. I contacted James DeMile in October 2012, and i did ask him if these times were punching + reaction, or only punching. His reply was: „It was motion, not reaction. Bruce would punch a pad which had the stop switch inside.“ You can find two video’s on YT when the late Sijo DeMile spoke about it: A) Bruce Lee: How He Achieved Phenomenal Speed B) James DeMile Combat Reaction Timer In the video A you see how this motion timer worked. And that’s the thing they measrued Bruce’s speed. It’s only punching, and not punching + reaction. When you read the description in John’s WOTD book or how Jesse Glover described it in his book, since they both used the term "reaction", the reader could come to the conclusion they used a reaction timer like shown in video B, which shows reaction + punching.

Lee fought Jack Man 1964. You erroneously stated he fought Lee a few months before he died. What else do you have wrong?

Your book is not accurate

The Bruce Lee Wong Jack Man fight was a boring draw according to one of the 11 witnesses to the fight. He wrote a book about it "Showdown in Oakland." Why would he lie? He didn't

Wow. Thank you for this material. Great explanation.

I had that book that Bruce never had published when he was alive. It complements nicely the books, "Bruce Lee's Fighting Method" and "Tao of Jeet June Do". Can't remember the name of it.

Short news: One of the people mentioned in the book, Ryan O'Neal, the long-time boyfrieind of "Charlie's Angels" Farrah Fawcett, died yesterday (Dec 8th, 2023) at the age of 82.

Great podcast. Thanks! Also Wang Xiang Zhai, founder of Yiquan/Dachengquan, was influenced by western boxing. :)

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It's A Great Book! I'm Very Proud I Met And Trained With Some Of Bruce Lee's Friends & Student's Who Trained Under Him!

Bruce Lee's Martial Art Is A VEry Good Thing To Study. Nobody Can Be Bruce Lee, But Bruce Lee, But I Studied His Martial Arts Because I Want To Know How To Really Fight, Know An Art That Could Hurt. Somebody Bad & Save My Life To. I've Spapared With Karate Guys, Jujitsu Artist & Boxers! I Know My Training In Bruce Lee's Art Allows Me To Handle Myself In Any Situation I Get Into! So I Fight Using Bruce Lee's Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do & Wing Chun Do.

boring stuff now

Great conversation! Hong Taiji 太極 (aka Qing Emperor Taizong) was the emperor who solidified the manchu conquest of china and officially founded the Qing dynasty. After an emperor took a name it was taboo to write it. So that could be why references to Taiji fist are so difficult to find in the Qing.

If you are punching a person your hand hits them before your foot lands on the ground, however if you are punching thin air you need to replicate that somehow.

So in the final analysis, which lands first?

Skip to 9:23 . Will save you guys time .

Modern UFC fighters don’t fight 20 mins non stop - so Bruce vs Wong went 20 mins !!!

Da Inosanto has said... that he saw a few encounters where he toyed with his opponents, other martial artists. I dont know if it is mentioned in this book ( I am NOT talking about his road rage incidents_)

Great interview! Really enjoyed!

Great interview, thanks guys! I'm reading John's book now!

Great book. I got my kindle copy. Im glad he wrote.

Bruce lee beat joe Lewis in a sparr according too herb Jackson how witnessed it and did so very easily.Louis Delgado also how has said on record he could not get near Bruce lee , Delgado beat mr Norris also .gene lebell also told lies about teaching Bruce judo for over a year lies .as John little had all of Bruce’s day time diary’s and there was not one be mention of gene lebell yet there was all the karate champions how use too take lessons off Bruce and too all the Chuck Norris fans yes he was a student of Bruce lee. And he got lucky with his career as joe Lewis turned down the part of colt in the way of the dragon .very lucky man I most say .if he didn’t get this role he would just have been a normal guy nobody knows about .joe Lewis regretted not taking the role .Chuck was very stuff looking n all his movies and for him too say he was the champ and Bruce was just a actor.for a guy that was just a actor according to mr Norris why was he and all the best karate men of that generation coming too Bruce lee for lessons . Bruce lee was the real deal and herb Jackson said Bruce made joe Lewis look very poor Bruce was that good remember joe Lewis was voted the greatest karate fighter of all time .

Bruce Lee is King

Well done :)! Thx for uploading this. A couple things more which are maybe interesting for some people. Since guys like Gene LeBell, Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis etc. were always good in talk Lee down, now i point some things out about them which a rarely mentioned: 1) Something in general about Point Karate (not about Lee, only in general). Here are some fight records compared to professional Boxers and Muay Thai fighters: Sam Langford (Boxer): 314 fights Saenchai (Muay Thai): 378 fights Skipper Mullins (Point Karate): 1115 fights I am not absolute sure, but i think Langford and Saenchai are among the fighters with the most bouts across all full contact combat sports. I couldnt find anyone in Boxing or Muay Thai with 400 bouts and more. This should underline how "dangerous" Point Karate is compared to Boxing or Muay Thai. Langford and Saenchai togehter had 692 fights. Mullin's doesnt double that, but over 1100 fights just shows how much damage your body takes in Point Karate. World Champion in Point Karate doesnt make someone a tough guy, a skilled guy in a certain skill contest yes, but not tough or relevant to full contact combat sport or street fights (only adressed to the milenium kids on YT who always claim "Chuck Norris was a real fighter"). Kenpo Karate founder Ed Parker Senior’s record as „fighter“ is 0-0-0. Still he is regarded a martial arts legend, great MA Instructor, and very effective street fighter. Not one of the Point Karate Champions from back in the day ever challenged his status or challenged him. Parker Sr. about Point Karate: „Tournament Karate is not full contact Karate. The idea is to execute a Karate technique with full control. You win matches by outscoring your opponent, not by killing them.“ This should underline the Point Karate Champions like Norris, Moore etc. never executed their strikes with full power, and the goal was to outscore the opponent, not by hurting them. And it underlines Point Karate wasn’t full contact, so Norris etc. were never full contact fighters. Take a look at (full) professional Soccer player Pelé (1940-2022), who was born the same year as Norris and Lee. During the 1960s he was badly injured many times and had to take longer breaks to recover. Back in the day yellow and red cards didn’t exist, and you could attack opponents very hard. Pelé suffered many leg injuries through heavy kicks to his legs. Compare his injury list with Point Karate Fighters. Pelé was much more injured as them, even if he was a Soccer player and not a combat sport fighter. 2) Were Lewis etc. real World Champoins in Kickboxing or not? A couple weeks ago a new video was uploaded about former Pro Boxer Randall "Tex" Cobb. He fought George Foreman once but also Earnie Shavers. In the beginning of the clip, the narrator says Cobb won 1980 the first world tournament in kickboxing. How could Lewis, Bill Wallace etc. be World Champions in Kickboxing in the 1970s when the first real world tournament in Kickboxing was held in 1980? So if this is true (i cant check it out), then even American Kickboxers like Lewis, Wallace etc. were never real World Champions. At least not in the 70s when they had their prime. 3) Were Point Karte World Champions really world champions? Bill Wallace to John Little: "Back in those days, you could go to Chicago, fighting three guys from Chicago, and be crowned as world champion." So it seems these "World Championships" werent real World Championships. 4) Bob Wall Bob Wall (RiP!) claimed him and Lee were best friends: Fact is Lee only spoke once about Wall, and it was negative. He was asked by someone why he hires that guy (Wall) always? And he said: "Because he gets hit so damn good." Not just Matt Polly but also former Lee histotrian George Tan pointed that out, i mean ppl said Lee never liked Wall so much. But Wall made a career claiming he was Lee's close friend. And in a video podcast in 2018 he even claimed what Lee would do in the late 60s, he himself and LeBell already did in the early 60s. 4) Gene LeBell Yes we know what a fish Seagal is, and yes we know he lied many times, but there were indeed some people who wanted to find out if LeBell actually has a black belt in the original japanese Jūdō. They checked out any Kōdōkan, Nippon Budōkan, Judokai etc. and couldnt find one black belt. The Kōdōkan is the headquater of the world wide Jūdō community, and any black belt is listed there. LeBells Wiki article list him as: 10th degree red belt in Judo 9th degree black belt in Jujutsu 10th degree black belt in Kyokushin Budokai Kyokoshin Budokai is the style which was founded by dutch Jon Bluming. I have no doubts LeBells 10th degree in Kyokushin Budokai is legit, and i dont know if his 9th degree black belt in Jujitsu is legit. But is 10th degree red belt (highest rank) in Jūdō is very sceptical! Notice: Jūdō = the original japanese writing when romanized to western alphabet, founded by JIgoro Kano Judo = western version, but not the original style which was founded by Kano. So it can be LeBell only has a 10th degree red belt in american Judo, but not in the original art from Japan named Jūdō. And this would be very cheap since his nickname was Judo Gene LeBell. It would be a total gag if he never studied Jūdō but called himself Judo Gene. But since he told so many stories from which many are not true, i woudnt be surprised. Go here on YT for Steven Seagal Bruce Lee Haters and you gonna find a video when Steven talks about Tarantino and LeBell. And he pointed out LeBell made his entire career in lying about who he beat up. Buttom line: These guys talked negative about Lee from time to time. No problem. But as you see, they arent flawless too.