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U ever study Brazilian jijitsu i just got my blue belt

I am a sixth-degree black belt in American Tang Soo Do. First off I appreciate having a short video that really gets to the point. Not a lot of people touch on the fact that there is an older version of tae kwon do that really has its roots in old school. TSD. The only thing you failed to touch on was that Pat Johnson, who was in the movie used to be under Chuck Norris, and eventually broke off and went his own way, but it was Chuck Norris and Pat Johnson, and all of the old school guys that originally broke off from the Koreans and created what is now today called American Tang Soo Do. This was the name used since the 70s. It is different from the Korean variant in that American way just as it wasn’t many other martial arts back then like American Keogh, was to blend other martial arts on top of the original foundation. That is why in the American version we use boxing with our hands And even BJJ Wanting to once again, separate himself Chuck Norris went on to change the name of the system to the Chuck Norris system. People like Pat Johnson kept the same American TSD name. The Chuck Norris system also eventually changed in the 90s. I believe it was to Chun Kuk Do. It wasn’t until 2015 until present that it once again used the name of Chuck Norris system. I actually hold a certificate for my current rank of sixth-degree black belt that says Chuck Norris system - American Tang Soo Do. It truly has one and the same. According to Pat Johnson, he was responsible for teaching most of the martial arts to the actors. This means that the type of karate used is the American version of TSD. It’s also very important to point out as you know, but for other people that the old version of taekwondo is nothing like what is popular nowadays. It’s not related except a very small amount. Especially for talking Olympic style, which really plays emphasis on kicking and nothing else. At least this is true and they’re sparring. Even their forms with the feet very close together it just really isn’t related to the old stuff.

I became a 5th Dan Degree Black Belt in Tang Soo Do, the U.S Army Karate Champion, a Karate Sensei and the founder of my own dojo ''Cobra Kai'', ''The Way of the Fist''.

I got taught Tang Soo Do from my superior while serving in the Army Special Forces overseas in Iraq. He got taught by Master Kim Sun-Yung of South Korea when he served in the Korean War.

I always thought that cobra Kai was based on Goju Kai. The real life founder of the Goju karate branch was named Miyagi IIRC

Interesting…..what are your thoughts on taekwondo nowadays? Do you feel taekwondo has been ‘watered down’

No offense but your history is very off the founder of taekwon do is gen Choi Hong hi and although they did unify under the taekwon do it wasn’t the same art as hwang kee’s moo do kwan tang soo do it was a completely different art which would change again when Kim un young would take over when creating the World taekwondo federation I would recommend a book called a killing art for more information on taekwondo Korean martial arts history is kinda dumb and confusing. but good video overall

Could we get a punch version aswell

Kata, poomsae whatever you call it is a waste of time. Anyone who actually thinks it is usefull “dosent understand the purpose of it” (to waste lesson time). It’s the main reason I quit taekwondo and decided to do kickboxing instead. I never signed up to do ballet movements 75% of the lesson time.

I love Tang Soo Do, i taking it with my 11 yr old has been an amazing process.

At first, I thought it was Su Bak Do. Then, discovered later on in the series, it was Tang Soo Do. My guest was pretty close.

Cobra Kai style

As someone who earned a black belt in a Korean martial art and who still has ties to the people of South Korea, I have found the rootlessness and misrepresentation in many current Korean martial arts to be disappointing and speaks to the integrity of those martial arts. Any pursuit with focus toward excellence should seek truth. Korean martial arts, in particular Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido, have direct connections to Japanese schools. However, students are actually told that these were indigenous arts that the Japanese adopted. Practitioners begin their training with that seed of denial and deception. This is in part why, while Japanese masters are revered and are wise to the meaning of techniques in their respective schools, Korean masters tend to be old men with a hustle, often having side-businesses. Korean martial artists replace "do" and systematic, cohesive art with hard training and impressive feats due to hours of conditioning. In the US, that hard training does not sell among students who pursue martial arts for fitness and recreation. This leaves an immense hole in the instruction and value of the training. The soft training exposes Korean martial arts as techniques that were never really taught well. Repetition and knuckle sandwiches replaced proper pedagogy. Also, Westerners need to disassociate South Korean masters with the Hwarang of the past. The Hwarang were of noble or aristocratic lineage. Martial arts, back in the day, in China and in Korea, were taught to the upper class. South Korea is still a country of stark class division, and those in the upper class pursue academics or music at esteemed institutions. They do not pursue martial arts. The recent generations of masters came from humble origins, often from the streets of a war-torn Korean peninsula. This is not to disparage them, but it is to show how the art of noblemen was not the art of the streetfighter. I believe education enlightens, and I believe that the noble warriors of South Korea's past did practice a sophisticated and effective art (for their day). The Korean martial arts, today, are disconnected from that lineage and come from something borrowed by the Japanese and taught to the lowly.

Tang Soo!

what i think is more interesting than anything is that after all these years & 100s of martial arts flicks later they still come back to the KK as the go to example.

Korean karate lives on WKF, SKIF they destroy everything of Karate DO,

Sir, we are really thankful to you for providing such a good informative video clip or to say a Brilliant Tutorial Lesson for the Comparison (Similarities + Differences) among the Major Popular Martial Art Forms Practice around the World. Every Black belt should know these information as well as to teach their students to propagate the Legacy, the True History without being bias to any particular style. Thanking you again 🙏😇🥋

Interesting….

Kata isn't useless. Practicing kata without the knowledge of it's movements and only solo practice is useless.

My father's brother who's my uncle used to tech this art himself as he's a Vietman vet who was in the Air Force during the war I told him about the fighting style of Cobra Kai being the based on the art he learned.

So its just TKD?

I feel like I am not getting enough of my taekwondo training. I can't go training higher poomsae though before my sensei thinks I'm ready. That's why I thought of learning the old palgwe poomsae!

Its very clear. Its Not taekwondo. Its tang soo do.

Hwang Kee _was_ the founder of Tang Soo Do. Lee used the _name_ first, but with Lee, it referred to a Korean take on Japanese karate, whereas Kee used the name to refer to a hybrid martial arts of his own creation which, whilst derived from Okinawan karate, also incorporated moves from older and near forgotten fighting systems that went back more than two thousand years.

¿Qué es Karate Tang Soo Do Tradicional Defenza Personal SurCoreana? Karate Tangsudo Tradicional Karate Tang Soo Do Tradicional Defenza Personal SurCoreana Defenza Personal Tradicional Y Arte Marcial Surcoreano... El tang soo do(hangul: 당수도, hanja:唐手道, pronunciación coreana:taŋgSoodo)se traduce como la vía o camino la mano surcoreana,Tang hace referencia a la dinastía surcoreana del mismo nombre,sus ideogramas significan:mano y camino;este camino o "do" se define como el TAO relacionando la filosofía taoísta surcoreana al entrenamiento marcial”,es una defenza personal tradicional moderno y arte marcial de Surcoreana.Está enfocado hacia la disciplina y la práctica de formas y secuencias,y el combate de una pelea callejera o utilizarlo en una pelea crimen organizado y orientado hacia la defensa personal.

You mean taekwondo...

I have studied this art for many years and the kicks are fantastic. Although my black belt ranking is in Kenpo Karate I still have a strong love for Tang Soo Do

At 4:04 on the far right is my instructor's instructor. He is without the MooDukKwan trim

Kata is still useless. You're just doing imaginary movements with a non existent opponent. One punch in a fight will give someone who only does kata a check of reality. Sparring and drills are the way to go. Kata makes Karate among the most boring martial arts.

Several kicks were introduced in Shotokan Karate between 1936 and 1946. Round kicks, back kicks, and hook kicks were introduced by Funakoshi Yoshitaka, the son of the founder of Shotokan. Flying kicks, double front kicks, front kicks, and side kicks were techniques that existed even before karate was introduced from Okinawa to Japan. At Moo Duk Kwan, they lied and called it Taekkyeon. TKD and Tang soo do try to loundry their lied history of Karate claim there was no kicks in karate. But it was already exisit before

1:40 The reason why Terry Silver performs a taekwondo form is because Thomas Ian Griffith is a taekwondo black belt. It was easier to just have him perform a form that he already knew than for Pat Johnson to teach him an American Tang Soo Do form. Plus our forms aren't as flashy as taekwondo or traditional Korean Tang Soo Do forms. It had nothing to do with Won Kuk Lee or anything of special meaning, it was a matter of convenience. Cobra Kai wasn't a Tang Soo Do or taekwondo offshoot in the movies. Robert Mark Kamen didn't give it an origin story (or based it on a specific style like he did with Miyagi-do). That was something that the writers of the television show did. They could have easily gone with taekwondo as the origin art, but out of respect for Pat Johnson went with [American] Tang Soo Do as the origin art since he trained the original movie actors.

정작 한국인들은 당수도랑 태권도를 수천년이 넘는 한국의 전통 무술로 국가차원에서 역사왜곡해서 고유무술로 잘못알고있음

I wanted to learn tang soo do but theres only one school in my city that teaches it and unfortunately my schedule didnt allow me to go the days they had class and the time that the classes started was a thumbs down. Still I would like to learn it someday. I just started kyokushin karate yesterday and its my first martial art. One day i hope to learn tang soo do. Osu 🥋

The purpose of kata in karate is the same as purpose as shooting drills in basketball or running routes at football practice. You develop muscle memory with the techniques in a controlled situation so that performing certain combinations or techniques in a real life scenario is more efficient and second nature. As Bruce Lee said about his fist, “it hits all by itself.

my 1st: MDK TSD 🥋☯️

Well, Koreans do find "Korean Karate" offensive because Korea was occupied and colonized by the Japanese empire in 1907. Some Koreans became Japanese collaborators or most Koreans call them "Chinilpa/친일파". The Chinilpa means those collaborators sided with the upper-class Japanese to work to gain higher positions in government jobs or the military. Anyway, during the colonization, the Japanese used their hard power to erase anything that is related to Korean culture including the language. Back then speaking and writing in Korean were banned. There are cases of Hanja and Hangul mixed in written newspapers back then but many people can barely read or understand Chinese characters. Hangul was made for the lower class during the Joseon period.

In my opinion: The 10 Kwans SHOULD have split evenly. 5 should have stayed and respected Tang Soo Do. The other 5 should be Tae Kwon Do.

Tang Soo Do

So what you’re saying is that cobra Kai karate is a combination of both karate and tang soo do?

So you’re saying that cobra Kai karate is a mixture of tang soo do, shotokan karate and taekwondo. Wow I didn’t know that the referee in the movie was the martial arts instructor and a student of Chuck Norris (1:53). This is new to me.

I've trained Chung Do Kwan

Compartido, (already shared) amazing footage 👍🐉

I agree: katas can be both meditative and physically taxing. In my experience as a practitioner of Tang Soo Do, I feel that katas contribute to sparring skills because they teach you balance, proper breathing, and fluidity of movement.

Taekwondo give away black belts . ................. TAEKWON DON'T

Prototype of TKD

You were so close! I'm direct under won kook Lee. We don't do poomsae we do hyung.... I never heard the word poomsae until I saw modern tkd on yt. Thanks for this video. I was just discussing this in my Ramsey Dewey video and nice to finally see the truth confirmed.

Taekwondo is Korean karate. Along with tang so do.

As someone who learned Taekwondo it just seems unfortunate many of us learned an incomplete martial art as kids.

Great video! Having the opportunity to train with Grandmaster Ho Sik Pak is so awesome. I met him years ago when he did a seminar at my tang soo do school in NJ. Tang Soo! 👊🏼🇰🇷

Which came first, Moo Duk Kwan or Tang Soo Do?