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Addy Mills
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Приєднався 29 вер 2020
Guitar Hero Drums are BROKEN
Join me as I explore each Guitar Hero game featuring drums and explain to you how each game has quirks and issues that prevent you from getting 100% on every game!
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - What are Guitar Hero charts?
2:07 - Broken Notes
5:25 - Guitar Hero: World Tour
8:10 - Guitar Hero: Metallica, Smash Hits (& probably Van Halen too)
10:35 - Guitar Hero 5/Band Hero
14:13 - Another Issue...
15:09 - Warriors of Rock
Check out my Missing Exports: ua-cam.com/play/PL1Nmk4-LrcjwiK1v9zYu1w9MfkBIg8wcA.html
References
Websites:
5Frets (through Wayback Machine)
web.archive.org/web/20120107130215/5frets.com/262/guitar-hero-5-bass-drum-glitch-expert-players-fail-songs/
web.archive.org/web/20120317034213/5frets.com/264/guitar-hero-5-expert-drum-glitch-will-never-be-fixed/
IGN
www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-lays-off-1900-staff-from-its-video-game-workforce
www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-lays-off-another-650-staff-from-its-video-game-workforce-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-sends-memo-to-staff
Videos:
PS3 HfT FC WT (Beatstruck): ua-cam.com/video/KJYJLpRsRnM/v-deo.html
Antisocial Sustain Bug (Specules): ua-cam.com/video/b_3mdDP3TIA/v-deo.html
Overkill Busted Notes (HayateSnake): ua-cam.com/video/yev8WaUaOuU/v-deo.html
Overkill Drums FC (Beatstruck): ua-cam.com/video/6qhoiWTlxEs/v-deo.html
Hit the Lights FC (Machete Squid): ua-cam.com/video/OXdSny9qT0g/v-deo.html
DWEDFN/DYFLWD FCs (dayzeed): ua-cam.com/video/whxJISvZ3hU/v-deo.html
GH5 broken notes drums footage (cdylan13SH):ua-cam.com/video/xGGtt0hc-kI/v-deo.html
GH5 PS2 Footage (Rzapp06): ua-cam.com/video/U7eKwzI_UQQ/v-deo.html
Laser Cannon Deth Sentence Expert/Expert+ Comparison (non_zero): ua-cam.com/video/tQBysykDF2k/v-deo.html
522/521 Notes Streak (Tade
): ua-cam.com/video/5ukQy0VJ5eA/v-deo.html
WoR Trailer (HERO Europe): ua-cam.com/video/GDDKsaguHxI/v-deo.html
The Shortest Straw (GH:WoR) Drums FC (BIIIIG BODDY): ua-cam.com/video/bqz8Ua1o96g/v-deo.html
Source-less Videos were recorded by me through World Tour on PC and RPCS3
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - What are Guitar Hero charts?
2:07 - Broken Notes
5:25 - Guitar Hero: World Tour
8:10 - Guitar Hero: Metallica, Smash Hits (& probably Van Halen too)
10:35 - Guitar Hero 5/Band Hero
14:13 - Another Issue...
15:09 - Warriors of Rock
Check out my Missing Exports: ua-cam.com/play/PL1Nmk4-LrcjwiK1v9zYu1w9MfkBIg8wcA.html
References
Websites:
5Frets (through Wayback Machine)
web.archive.org/web/20120107130215/5frets.com/262/guitar-hero-5-bass-drum-glitch-expert-players-fail-songs/
web.archive.org/web/20120317034213/5frets.com/264/guitar-hero-5-expert-drum-glitch-will-never-be-fixed/
IGN
www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-lays-off-1900-staff-from-its-video-game-workforce
www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-lays-off-another-650-staff-from-its-video-game-workforce-xbox-boss-phil-spencer-sends-memo-to-staff
Videos:
PS3 HfT FC WT (Beatstruck): ua-cam.com/video/KJYJLpRsRnM/v-deo.html
Antisocial Sustain Bug (Specules): ua-cam.com/video/b_3mdDP3TIA/v-deo.html
Overkill Busted Notes (HayateSnake): ua-cam.com/video/yev8WaUaOuU/v-deo.html
Overkill Drums FC (Beatstruck): ua-cam.com/video/6qhoiWTlxEs/v-deo.html
Hit the Lights FC (Machete Squid): ua-cam.com/video/OXdSny9qT0g/v-deo.html
DWEDFN/DYFLWD FCs (dayzeed): ua-cam.com/video/whxJISvZ3hU/v-deo.html
GH5 broken notes drums footage (cdylan13SH):ua-cam.com/video/xGGtt0hc-kI/v-deo.html
GH5 PS2 Footage (Rzapp06): ua-cam.com/video/U7eKwzI_UQQ/v-deo.html
Laser Cannon Deth Sentence Expert/Expert+ Comparison (non_zero): ua-cam.com/video/tQBysykDF2k/v-deo.html
522/521 Notes Streak (Tade
): ua-cam.com/video/5ukQy0VJ5eA/v-deo.html
WoR Trailer (HERO Europe): ua-cam.com/video/GDDKsaguHxI/v-deo.html
The Shortest Straw (GH:WoR) Drums FC (BIIIIG BODDY): ua-cam.com/video/bqz8Ua1o96g/v-deo.html
Source-less Videos were recorded by me through World Tour on PC and RPCS3
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"Forbidden" Mr. Roboto Export in Guitar Hero Warriors of Rock
I remember sometimes hitting 101% in practice mode in some sections in GHWT back in the day. I think there's one instance in a very old drum compilation on my channel.
I need this chart in clone hero
Is it possible to record an entire session & then split them to separate SKA files? Or does it have to be separate recordings for now?
When using the plugins as described in the video, it's only possible to record them in chunks and export them one file at a time. It would be cool to be able to record them all in one go
Maybe 32bits key for note assignment, was not the best choice. Dunno, maybe using each note counted separately, should do the trick. At least, on drums
Guitar Hero devs try not to fuck up their game challenge: impossible
I wonder how Guitar Hero charters made charts from the official game back in the day
How do you sync the drummer or the bass/rhythm player?
@@mrdk494 Can you clarify what you mean by syncing the drummer or bass player?
It'd be cool to see some Crush 40 songs programmed
Don Henley jumpscare
@@Incinerai He’s always there in the background, just prepping his next lawsuit
No. Cause they were the most cheap and loudest thing I’d ever played
ua-cam.com/video/ejSpyIJp1_8/v-deo.htmlsi=tKg6nXL-gI8Qnzgw Courtesy of GHAddict112 I've also looked this FC of Scatterbrain on WoR, and saw how on one of the sustained notes had SP power and it increased the SP like there was whammy, was it a glitch?
This emphasize how much all the missing exports pack that you made were essential ! Thank you.
17:49 *INSERT CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM THEME HERE*
Watching this video, if anything, makes me feel a bit more sane about when I was trying to play drums on this game. Before I played Guitar Hero on drums, I had already played drums in real life for roughly 10 years, so I knew what I was doing, even with double-kick (Expert+). I understand a portion of me not getting full 100% streaks is on me partially, but it shows that the mechanics were brokwn in these games. I even ended up getting a Rock Band kit and getting a custom interface so it could interact with Guitar Hero (complete with senitivity adjustment) and I would still be hitting notes I knew I hit and it would work, mainly with a lot of the double-kick stuff. If Guitar Hero ever comes back, I've got a massive catalog of songs I could play on my good Roland Kit, but we can only hope i guess...
One thing you neglected to mention is that GH drums have a baked in roll limit into the drum brains, at least I think. When playing with a RB kit, or the MPA, you can spam the drum pads by double stroking with the sticks and most, if not all of the hits should be recognized, but if you try to do the same on a GH kit, or on an e-kit connected to the brain, you will drop a lot of hits. Chris also mentioned he was way less consistent hitting the triple kicks in The Shortest Straw when playing on 5 lane compared to 4 lane.
@@jloe01 A part 2 is already in the works to cover that! (Alongside some other stuff I want to clarify or missed) I never played 4-lane myself so I wasn’t aware it had its own issues
Holy crap, I just played along to this video by following along to the Bass track. My strumming arm is on fire!!! It's a fun song, but man, does it take some stamina.
this is a very well made and interesting video. Please do more of this!
For the song Hot For Teacher, was the same issue there in Guitar Hero Van Halen as in World Tour?
Hot for Teacher in GHVH does not have the same Stats Screen bug as GHWT. It was fixed with GHM.
"Guitar Hero Games were built using the Tony Hawk game engine" was not on my sentences-I'll-hear-today bingo card.
12:31 wow. i wonder who this "resident drummer" is?
This was an amazing video, thanl you!
someone send this drum chart to birdman lol
I did actually send him a link on discord! But I didn’t get a response. If you know he’s active elsewhere, feel free to forward it to him!
@@addymillscustoms awesome haha
@@addymillscustoms commented this video link on his new upload and told him he should give it a try!
You should talk about the broken charts in rock band that a lot of the rock band network songs had especially those harder songs like we are the nightmare, abraxes of filth, and your treachery will die for you, I wanna see how they differ from guitar hero’s problems seeing as they are using a midi file and not some weird proprietary way of charting songs
Epilepsy warning at 3:35
Great video! Please add an epilepsy warning though, there is some pretty extreme binary flashing just after the 3 minute mark.
"do you ever find yourself playing guitar hero drums know you hit all the notes?" Me: "No" 😔
DADDY ADDY UPLOAD! (Your exports for GH WoR literally revived my ability to play console GH with my son. Thank you so much.)
So basically gluing a guitar game on a skateboard game caused some issues?
This is a banger of a custom chart! Keep up the great work, Addy!
Awesome video! I have a feeling that this same bug might be occurring in Clone Hero drums that have been imported from Rock Band DLC. I've played blackened by Metallica on Expert with the 2x kick modifier and it's got some triplets that seem to be the same bug mentioned at 15:47
Now I wonder do Rock Band games have the same issues? Or Clone Hero?
*3:35** MASSIVE SEIZURE WARNING*
what makes all the guitar hero games harder too is they dont have a proper calibration system. at least on wii all the hero games have essentially a manual calibration, rockband has the hit the green note thing and its way more user friendly
these games were ass when they were first made...
It's almost like they had no time to churn out broken games for a greedy publisher.
Anyone else’s orange pad double strike and never realized any of these issues until this video? I was always just doing my best with the drums 🤷♂️
video needs more hex
3:34 - 3:42 Epilepsy warning
This needs to be higher up
As a IRL drummer playing mainly drums in GH and RB this was a video I didn't know I needed. But it might have just ruined all the GH games pre WoR for me... xD Are you gonna make a similar video on RB drums or are they not broken enough?
Minor note about the GH5 bug: Based on my experience, sections with slower double bass (ex. "Demon(s)" and "21st Century Schizoid Man") have a small but somewhat noticeable degree of frontend compared to sections with faster double bass (ex. "Scatterbrain", "Done With Everything..."). This seems to be because you're only allowed to hit the bugged kicks when the game stops checking for the missing X+ kick before it, and the resulting window size is dependent on the speed of the double bass (slower = larger, earlier minimum / faster = smaller, later minimum). This makes the faster songs even more annoying to combo because you're having to hit everything really stupidly late with very little leeway.
I missed this comment earlier, but this makes the issue even more frustrating! Not only is the timing window adjusted in songs with double bass, but it also changes per song! Thanks for letting me know about that
"<Strained whistle>" got a laugh out of me.
Hey Addy, I have a bunch of songs on my WoR on RGH 360 (customs AND your packs) and I'm struggling with extremely long loading time. Any tips on how to reduce it ? thxx edit: great video btw, you rock !
This is one of the best videos regarding the gh engine tbh, I always knew that the GH games had fucked up drums but I didn't know exactly why, this video cleared up a lot of what I was wondering (and also confirmed that I wasn't crazy when I felt that GH5 drums were impossible on expert even though I barely had issues with any other game in the franchise)
my drums ALWAYS either double hit or lose hits. i think i am just too strong for them 😂
just crushed an entire pint of ice cream while watching this video, thanks for an informative and entertaining ice cream break
My experience with the sustains losing points is that if you stop playing them and allow them to “drop” before it reaches the end of its timing window, then you won’t lose points from it, as a workaround to not lose points for those that have that issue. And I don’t know if it’s right, but I only noticed it happened on sustains that had a length long enough to not be entirely visible on the screen when you hit them…
I first heard about the broken notes reading about the Down With Everything/Die for Nothing bug on the TV Tropes Page for Guitar Hero (YMMV Section under "That One Level") didn't know the games were this broken on drums (Mainly because I mained Guitar on those games back in those day)
its weird how both rock band and guitar hero operate on a completely different engine from one another yet they "feel" like the same game sometimes just with a coat of paint
Harmonix started both series, and they are based on the Guitar Freaks arcade game
9:50 this immediately clicked in my head the stuff about the broken extra kicks in the chart when you play it in GH:WoR, I think someone finally FC'd it with ALL THREE kicks last year or the year before and it was an insane achievement
How'd they do it?