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His ghost may start to haunt you now for that comment... He was definitely not a pleasant person.

You are welcome, hope you get to Ireland soon! (And if you are in Dublin, don't go to Temple Bar, otherwise you will run out of money even quicker)

@@forasfeasa You wouldn't believe it but thats exactly what happened 😁 oh did we have a shindig 😂🤣😂good times

Go raibh maith agat

All history is fascinating (well most of it). There was constant intermarriage between elites, whether Norman, Gaelic, Welsh, or indeed Saxon. However, lineage was often used for propaganda purposes. The Tudors claimed to be Welsh, but were they? Henry VIII and Elizabeth did not treat Welsh culture or the language particularly well. In relation to Brian Boru, one of his descendants, Donogh O'Brien, 4th Earl of Thomond, fought on the English side in the Nine years War and played a great role in destroying Gaelic culture. Some of his descendants were even worse (Inchiquin in the Cromwellian wars). History is very complex, so too is lineage, I heard an historian one calculate how many thousands of descendants there are of Brian Boru....

@@forasfeasa thanks for the reply. you are quite right... henry VIII did not care very much for his welsh ancestry and even executed his welsh noble cousin.,.. sir rhys ap gruffydd... of dinefwr castle and estate... camarthenshire in 1531 married to lady katherine howard, daughter of 2nd duke of norfolk... elizabeth I had welsh ancestry from her father and mother, via queen ann boleyn and her grey ancestry , to the butlers of wem and eventually the princes of powys her ancestors... she was more popular in wales, for translating bible into welsh... as you mentioned, history is very complex, henry VIII and elizabeth I claimed desendent from brian boru... this maybe propaganda, or a true connection ,.... but often used as means of occupation or conquest.. possibly as both had a connection to the kings of powys and gwynedd,.... as princes of wales... keep up the good work...

Sounds like you have found a great place. Right place, right time certainly. Pembrokshire is Wales, right? Is that where Strongbow was from (more or less). I think he may have been earl of Pembroke... Enjoy yourself. A little time offline is good for you. My daughter has been sick, so I have been at home, with a little free time on my hands for a change, so I have been experimenting youtube shorts.. Strange things... Fortunately, they have got longer, I don't know how to say something meaningful in 15 seconds!

True... and there is a local story that during the famine a family lived under it.!

My grandmother lived through famine she ate squirrel and hedgehog amongst other things ​@@forasfeasa

Thanks Hugh!

Some are. It is just that there are so many in this part of the country, some get forgotten, which is a great pity.

By the MacCrohans, who were a junior branch of the O'Sullivans, and who would be swept away in the 17th century

Thank you. It has many dolmens indeed, but not all with a view of the Skelligs. Actually there was another wedge tomb near here, but it was destroyed by around 30 years ago...

I would argue that it was the Spanish commander, Don Juan del Aquila who was responsible, by making O'Neill fight a battle that didn't need to be fought. If nothing had happened the English would have lost, or been forced to pull out of Kinsale and retreat. Del Aquila insisted a battle be fought, giving a present to Mountjoy.

I'm sure you are right. I was just sharing a story I heard growing up in the region. My family actually had a sword from the battlefield ​@@forasfeasa

Thanks! It is a lovely castle, beautifully located. The song goes way back... and in the 1970s the Horslips did a rocked up version, Dearg Dom

@@forasfeasa thank you very much I just downloaded from iTunes. 👍

Enjoy it!

Thanks for the lovely comment on my first UA-cam short. It is a lovely castle, right over the lake. Battered but still standing and with a really kill for view, the lakes of Killarney and the largest mountain in Ireland. :-)

Sept of the O'Donohuge

Actually I don't think this was an O'Donoghue castle. However, you can see Ross castle from here. It is almost a straight line. This castle was a Norman one, but probably marked the limit of the Norman advance into South Kerry (or Desmumu - South Munster)

@@forasfeasa They had a smaller branch in Aghadoe

@forasfeasa It may have been built by the Normans though as they were in the area albeit briefly....probably lost it after Callan.Possibly used by the O'Donohuges then.

Thank for you for sharing that. It sounds so like the Tudor period... Did Sir William manage to survive the rest of henry's reign (and the following monarchs)?

Just in case you haven't seen it. Here is the Dictionary of Irish Biography entry on your ancestor www.dib.ie/biography/brereton-william-a0942

@@forasfeasa No, he was sent back to Ireland in 1541 as Lord High Marshal of Ireland and died there the same year. He is buried at Kilkenny, Leinster. However, many of his sons remained in Ireland and married Irish woman. My 3 times great grandfather Thomas, was born in Offally in 1782 and died in Bristol in 1832. Thomas's mother was Mary Coghlan from an old Irish family and it's very interesting to know that at one of their ruined castles at Clonoly are the graves of the Boleyn cousins of Queen Elizabeth I.

@@forasfeasa I've have read this biography and much more besides. I've also researched his life quite extensively as I have his descendant and my 3× grt grandfather Thomas Brereton. Ive actually written a biography of Thomas: 'The Readeption of Col Brereton'. Which traces his very interesting life and tragic death in Bristol.

Thanks for that. I have a feeling I recently saw a newish publication about a number Irish Catholic martyrs (executed in the early 1600s)

Not really. Irish had settled in Wales sometime after the Romans left, but did not raid Wales much (as opposed to Hiberno-Norse who did). Moreover, the Tudor understanding of early medieval history was fragmented and ignored Ireland. I agree Ireland isn't always innocent, but under the Tudors (especially Henry and Elizabeth) it suffered immensely, as when it came to Ireland they were terrible rulers. Indeed, Elizabeth was worse to Ireland than Cromwell in many ways.

​@@forasfeasa How irish was the Earl of Kildare ? He was descended from the Norman's. Also King Henry was appointed the ruler of Ireland by the Catholic Pope.

@@johnbrereton5229 You have asked a good question. The Earl of Kildare saw himself as English - English born in Ireland, but English. The Gaelic Irish saw him as English. However, the English increasingly saw these people as Irish (to their exasperation). Queen Elizabeth even asked one if he could talk English...

Thank you very much!

I completely agree with you. I'd love to take off in a car and drive around Ireland for a couple of months. However, work and reality intervene, so I am doing it bit by bit. Maybe in 50 years I will have seen everything, but I'm sure there will always be more :-)

A great idea and one that has definitely been on my mind. The problem is that they are expensive (and I'm not sure if you can get one second hand). But one day definitely. For some monuments you really need to see them from above, whether stone rows or circles, or castles. I will keep dreaming...

Sorry, I didn't understand your point.

I am not exactly sure what you mean by church and monarchy hand in hand? This was after all, just after Henry VIII split with the Catholic Church. Silken Thomas claimed to be fighting for the old religion against Henry's new church

@@forasfeasa go raibh maith agat.. Two branches of the same tree 🙏

Two branches of the same tree? Maybe in the sense that Germanic, Celtic, and Latin languages are all branches of the same tree. While the Catholic Church likes to portray itself as universal, if you look at history, you can see that in many ways it was a series of churches. For example, the monarchies in Spain and Portugal often had the rights to appoint their own bishops and had many clashes with Rome. In Ireland, before the reformation, there was essentially a Catholic church for the English and one for the Irish. This in a way continued after the reformation, with Gaelic lords being associated with Franciscans and Old English with Jesuits.

His army - if you can call it that - were scattered. Many were in various castles, some had died or deserted. Most were under the command of other lords. So while at the beginning of the revolt, he could draw on 15,000 the following year, this number had fallen dramatically. It is hard to say how much. Some lords who supported him at the beginning, especially from Munster, were unable to send him men then. Others were unwilling - they had seen how the wind was blowing... You can see the same in the Nine Years War, in 1601 when the English army was officially 12,000 or 16,000 (can't recall which), the field force was 3 or 4000. Garrisons always sucked up large numbers of men

@@forasfeasa I suppose the English only became vulnerable when they penetrated deeper into the country, extended supply lines etc, thanks for the reply.

@@ivanconnolly7332 When they had a large army that was the case. However, any army in Ireland was rapidly decimated by sickness. In the Nine Years War, the English would lose hundreds of men a year to disease. However, when they had veterans, these could penetrate into forests, etc., especially if supported by Gaelic troops

The Tudor plantation of Laois and offaly king and Queens county although my clan or Sept fought hard against them atvthe pass of the plumes and stradbally bridge they were destroyed be trechoury withbthe massacre of Mullaghmast . Another great episode really well delivered and indeed enjoyed 👏 thank you

@@forasfeasa The "Dreaded lurgi" I suppose.

Nor am I. How could anyone be? I am not a fan of any of the Tudors. Give me Blackadder any day!

Thanks for the coffee my friend. Very much appreciated!!!

Who is?

@@spazzymacgee5648 That's a good question, but I think some English are. After all they made the series the Tudors about him...

@@forasfeasa I don't include the evil English in my thoughts.

In some cases it makes things better for individuals. However, in 16th-17th century Europe religion was complicated...

There is sound. Strange, you can't hear. Could be a youtube blip...?

Thank you very much!

Good point... people are people and confusing at the best of times :-)

I think he was mentally unstable. Still he did a great deal of damage

I disagree with you. We are in a democratic state where all citizens are guaranteed freedoms and human rights (we also are citizens not subjects). Women have equal rights (though in practice that are often treated less equal). We have the right to vote and the fairest voting system in the world (unlike the UK and the US). The economy is doing well, especially compared to the 1950s or the 1980s. Our leaders are chosen by the people and when defeated power is handed over. Our state is secular and getting more so. I did not vote for the present government, and would change quite a few things if I could, but they represent me. They are the Irish government and far better than a privy council or indeed a government in Westminster.

I think you have described it accurately. The old castle is hidden in there, but it is surrounded by all the other buildings put up afterwards

I would say very distant cousins. The Normans who went to Ireland were a mix of Norman, various parts of France that were part of the English dominions, Welsh, some from what are now the Low Countries... a big mix. And yes later they would start marrying Gaelic Irish :-)

@@forasfeasa yes, through the Scandinavian side since the Normans were mixed mostly and some that came to England with the Norman invasion were technically not even Norman but later became known as Norman's and intermarried into other Anglo-Norman families such as Breton's for example in the Norman army who were given land in Britain.

​@@tobyplumlee7602 When looked at closely, history is a big confusing mess. I love this :-) However, sometimes labels like Norman are useful. Just to confuse things more, some of the Norman(ish) settlers in Ireland, especially in Wexford, preserved their own dialects until relatively recently, such as Yola in Wexford. This was a mix of English and I think words from the Low Countries.

@@forasfeasa Interesting 🤔. I agree. I love history!

@@tobyplumlee7602 Me too! Especially the surprises

More than earls they were the leaders of Gaelic Ulster. They had a lot of land, especially O'Neill, but his removal resulted in the end of Gaelic Ireland and in the Plantation of Ulster. O'Neill had great political skill which benefitted (even indirectly) most Gaelic Irish. He was also very popular with his own people. Looked at very crudely, once English law came in the basic punishment for everything was basically execution, as well as other problems. The removal of O'Neill and the mistakes of other lords resulted in the Plantation of Ulster, 1641, and the Confederate/Cromwellian wars. If O'Neill had not been persecuted and had not fled, Ireland would have followed a lot less bloody path - Gaelic culture would probably have survived better, maybe even the Irish language. The Flight of the Earls was a disaster as it pushed Ireland along a colonial route. Their titles are irrelevant, it is the politics and what came afterwards that matters.

They were clan chieftains with responsibility for the welfare of their clan... and they were Irish

Yes they were Irish and Slave Owners until Norman's eventually ended slavery

@@fiachramaccana280 I prefer the title lords. Chieftain in English has a pejorative meaning. It has the idea of something tribal and backward. The Gaelic system was older than the Saxon one, it was in existence long before. It was a political system that was different from the West Europe mainstream and poorer, but it was not archaic, tribal, or backward. Words matter, therefore I prefer lord rather than chief or chieftain.

@@forasfeasa I agree but only up to a point. They were called Taoiseach. Lord was an English title based on the surrender and regrant system and ignores the fact that there was an internal election/consultation process. It implies appointment by the English crown. So Chieftain is pejorative from the English point of view certainly. But not from an Irish point of view.

To be honest, this is the history of most countries :-)

The problem with Ireland is that it never had a Central Government or King. Ireland had King Brian Boru, but that was it. Because Ireland was made up of little Warlords, the English could always side with one Warlord or another. The real reason the Irish Warlords or Irish Royality is they wanted a seat on the English Court. The English didn't want the Irish on their Court is because the Irish Royals are treacherous. The English capitalized on Irish treacherous to get a foothold in Ireland. The Irish Royals probably left Ireland, because the English paid them off.

@@jamesmooney8933 I understand what you are saying, but the reality is more complex. English history is as full of treachery and infighting as Ireland. One of the sons of William the COnqueror probably killed one of his brothers and medieval English history is a series of civil wars and coups - from the Anarchy in the 12th century to the Wars of the Roses. England, however, was more centralised than most of the rest of Europe. The English have also been very good a 'spinning' history and producing a historiographic picture of 'England' in which the many civil wars etc., are downplayed. Irish lords didn't want a seat in the English court. However, if a court had been established in Dublin, history could well ahve been different....

Still is

@@jamesmooney8933 a lot of auld nonsense..... Ireland was a nation with a high King from the 6th century when England as a hodge podge of kinglets. The in fighting was a common feature of all European countries. The real issue was that after the Norman invasion, the Normans took over the Catholic church which meant that no Gaelic lord could become high king ever again as they would never get the legitimacy of a blessing from the church. Brian Ua Neill, a very serious candidate came a cropper this way. And without the blessing of the church it was hard to get momentum.

Thank you very much. Thanks for the subscription!

I have a cousin who lives in Howth. He gave me a tour 2 years ago, where he basically said what you said (with a few extra words thrown it). It is a pity. Do you know of the dolmen near the gold club is still accessible?

@@forasfeasa All I can tell you is that I’m a member of a local archaeological group and we can still access it via the main entrance to the castle and the car park but I’m not sure if people can just ramble in that way anymore or if it’s still accessible by coming across the Hill of Howth and down by Mush Rock. All sorts of developments are planned although the developers have just recently been denied permission for a new road in.

Thanks, I was very near it then. Next time I will try via the car park. And fingers crossed the developers keep getting denied permission

Thanks Olan, I wanted to film there, but wasn't sure where it was. I know I was close, but ran out of time. But thanks for the idea for a future video. Actually one of my next videos will be about the Fianna, but in Ventry, Kerry and the Battle of Cath Fionntra. Next time I get up to Dublin, I will have to film in Howth and other places in Dublin associated with Fionn.

Where I come from, there is a dolmen and local "historians" go about how it's Conall Golban's (son of Niall of the nine hostages) grave. We were even thought it in school. Thing is the timeline is way off as these structures predate the celts coming to ireland and were already ancient by that time.

@@adrianred236 It is the same in South Kerry. Around Ballinskelligs Bay, there are various stone rows and dolmens, all are said to be the graves of various of the sons of Mil or the wife of Amergin. Of course they all predate the arrival of the Gaelic people by over a thousand years. It just shows how the Gaelic people used this places for their mythology. I find this interesting and did a video 2 years ago or so on it (The Song of Amergin I think it is called)

This is it ua-cam.com/video/xisnZ02ncTo/v-deo.html

Hi Declan, thanks for the question. I am slightly sceptical about. In part because I am 16th century specialist and most of what we 'know' about Grainne Ni Maille dates from the 19th century. For example, she was never referred to as a pirate queen in her lifetime and although she went to London, probably did not have an audience with Elizabeth (and certainly not in the way it is commonly described. When researching this video I tried to find out about this legend. But did not find out anything conclusive. My feeling is that Grainne may have visited the castle and this got transformed into the legend... But it is something I am interested in finding more about. :-)

I spent holidays on the Howth Estate , my uncle worked there and my grandpa before him.

Grace O Malley supposedly visited there and was turned away and put a curse on them, thus they always laid an extra setting at the table. Type in Grace O Malley and it will come up. There is Grace O Malley Rd in Howth too, my cousin lives there. GReat memory on you tube eh

@@helendeegan1591 Very nice!

@@helendeegan1591 The problem is supposedly. Much of what is said about Grainne Ni Mallie/Grainuaile (and most figures from the time) is made up. A lot was made up in the 19th century, but loads at the time. The story about her and Howth castle is well known, but I am searching for real evidence. She is also supposed to have kidnapped one of the St lawrence children in revenge for not being invited in.

You are very welcome. Thanks for watching and I am glad you watched it

an-bhrónach.... agus agus éiríonn sé níos measa... 1641, Cromwell, etc....

@@forasfeasa oh tá a fhois game faraor! 😞 Maith thú ar aon nós! Coimead suas é! GRMA! 👍

Tá failte romhat Daniel (Domhnall?). Níl Gaeilge mhaith agam anois ach táim ag foghlaim arís. Ba mhaith liom video a dhéanamh as Gaeilge an bhliain seo chugainn - faoi faoi ​​Domnhnall O Connaill agus an Ghaeilge... :-)

@@forasfeasa Danny más maith leat! 👍 Ah well fair play duit! Níl Gaeilge foirfe agam in aon chur comh maith ach b'fhear liom Gaeilge briste ná béarla cliste mar a deireann an seanfhocal! 😅 Maith thú, táim ag súil leis!

@@TheDanieldineen Go raibh maith agat. Tá mo Gaeilge an-bhriste!! :-)

Thank you very much... Good luck with the job search

Check out Christopher St lawrence's grandfather... www.dib.ie/biography/st-lawrence-christopher-a8219 Originally I was going to mention him but the video got too long...

Thanks for the coffee. I will put it to good use!

22:08 The very exact same all over the world/ The nature of man makes it always so even in the modern liberal Democracies.And the governments now having the most incredible invasive means of surveillance at their fingertips will make it like 1984.Think Starmer and Helen McEntee for starter's 😮😁

Having lived a lot time outside Ireland, in a Latin America country which had a brutal dictatorship until the mid 1980s, and knowing people who were tortured or who had friends who were disappeared, I have a more positive view of Ireland than when I was growing up in the 1980s. Yes, there are problems with the Gardai, but compared to the British police (and indeed, those of most other European countries), they are a reasonable police force. New technologies have brought in new means of surveillance you are right, but companies are using these to track us more than the Irish government. That being said, I know in Britain the amount of cameras is frightening. Still looking back at literature from Germany or Russia in the 1930s/40s (or Spain or Portugal), and the valley of the squinting windows, we still have considerable freedoms here....

@@forasfeasa thank you for your reply: I’m over eighty and I was in many places worldwide, including active service south east Asia. I was just pointing out the clear and present danger to all the freedoms that we have in liberal democracies .We don’t march in many thousands screaming death, death over a cartoon or a book,We don’t even give a squeak when hundreds of young girls are passed around like meat by grooming gangs from a different culture.And, that’s why I believe we are f….d.and the protected classes ( with the forceful assistance of our woke governments) will Increasingly wipe their boots in our faces.We are too civilised.They will riot violently for any excuse.Think for a moment that all those people who travel by civilian aircraft must be at war with someone!!!! Else why all the tight security at airports worldwide, Surely that must be a phobia. Unless of course someone is at war with all those millions of harmless men women and children that fly in planes. Europe is f….d too little to late.The enemy is within the walls.cheers

Thanks Lynn. Glad you liked it. Could I ask if the sound was ok for you?

Is it not working?

It sounded ok to me when I uploaded it, but if it is problematic, I can change it. Thanks for letting me know

@@forasfeasa Sound is very low here in ont, Canada

@@forasfeasa Quite the opposite. It's so loud that UA-cam has normalised the volume and compressed it for me as a desktop viewer. If this viewer is on mobile/tablet it may be even more aggresively compressed, add to that the speech is almost entirely in the left channel and on a phone with stereo speakers or bluetooth ear buds it could be a rather quiet experience xD

@@kiri101 Thanks. I recorded this using my son's equipment (without his help as he lives far away). However, I think I may have done something wrong this time....

Thank you very much, Glad you enjoyed it. It really is a special place. one really worth visiting.

@@forasfeasa really a treasure

@@davidgallahair1206 Hope you get to visit it one day

Thanks a lot

Thanks for the comment. It is providing a history, or at least a version. DNA is providing interesting insights. However, there are problems with this which prevent a definitive version (an unbiased history being established), such as interpretation, the question of culture, or sample. In relation to the last, many attempts to map the history of DNA restrict the sample, by saying for example only those whose grandparents lived within 30km of each other are included. In Ireland this rules out most of the population of Dublin. I was born in Dublin, but I have only 1 Dublin grandparent (plus 2 from Kerry and 1 from Cork). This is common in Dublin, most Dublinners would have at least one non-Dublin born grandparent. I also saw a video. Someone (from Irish Origenes I think) trying to map out Irish and Scottish genetic history. He said the Gaelic part of Scotland and Ireland originated in a small part of Scotland. Did it? I am sceptical. Or did that part of Scotland share more genes with Irish people. Moreover, since the science of DNA is young, I expect to see many advances and therefore many changes. It is very interesting, but much will change in the stories being told by it.

Thank you very much. Come and visit Ireland one day and see these places in real life