They have no right to lock up a hotel guest even when he is aggressive, disrupts the hotel order and destroys its property. They should have called an ambulance immediately, because he had a seizure indicating a threat to life. And in the meantime, hotel security should have put a straitjacket on Liam and stayed with him. It would have saved his life. Clear dereliction of duty resulting in death.
Y'all don't buy everything that is said on TV. Even he said that this is what "we" _think_ happened. Currently, remember: context. Secondly remember he said this scenario is likely, at most, he never said there's evidence of it and then he does continue to speak on about hotel people as if this created story wasn't says to still only be speculation from the beginning of this conversation.
I think he'd already fallen to his death when the staff made the emergency call. Saying in the emergency call that they are scared he might fall is a cover up.
Why is noone talking about the fact that Liam said in a past interview that after having Bear he would never do things to risk his life! This is all a cover up! Liam was murdered! I hope we get to the truth!
He was under the influence. Unless you have any unequivocal proof, you cannot blame others for the fact that he was under the influence. He was an adult. He was his own responsibility.
@@KevinDuthie-l6w So, are yo suggesting he should have been thrown out of the hotel to sleep on the street at 1am in the morning to avoid lawsuits? Just for the record: good luck with the “huge lawsuits” in Argentina. The Judicial system is so slow you might find yourself waiting a couple of decades before getting anything out of the lawsuit.
@@lillyroth61 If he was causing trouble they should have called the police to have him removed from the premises. If he was experiencing a medical emergency - he should never have been left alone in his hotel room (if he ever was).
@@lillyroth61 don’t twist things. He shouldn’t be locked in his room. If they put him out of the hotel he’d probably be alive today. Not to avoid lawsuits. U r one cynical kid.
The first witness, Bret Watson, said that he was in the room right below Liam's room! How it is possible that he didn't see the bag on his balcony for 2 days?!
I think it was excessive force look at the third guy in the video with shorts and he has the purse or holding the purse....this guy looks like a thug and super strong
There is a big differance here about taking him to his room or being locked in the room by 4 big bullies what legal authority did this hotel have to force him and man handle him drag him and lock him in the room ..why was he not allowed to leave the hotel ..what legal authority did the hotel have to stop him leaving the hotel on his own free will . Why was he being treated as a lock up prisoner this hotel has a lot to answer for who was ordering this
That's cool and everything but it's different country hard to prosecute or investigate...his family need to hire some good lawyers and investigators along with UK gov to have some jurisdiction there or else it's cold case
It doesn't make any sense. Why would Liam - a 31 year old man - need to "escape" from his hotel room? Surely he was free to just walk himself out at any time? And if not - who was responsible for trying to keep him in there? Who instructed he be taken back to his bedroom? If he was having seizures in the lobby - like one of the hotel guests had previously reported then surely the hotel had a basic duty of care to call an ambulance? He should NEVER have been lifted up like he apparently was in that photo they released - and he should NEVER have been left alone. Something definitely stinks to high heaven. Why did they blur Liam's face in the photo? Was that even him? We have no real evidence that it was.
The brown leather bag that was supposedly left on the second floor balcony is visible in google images from BEFORE Liams stay at the hotel. It was not his leather bag - it’s a huge coverup. 😔
Because someone might have placed them on the ground next to his body? Just like they might have placed all of that drug paraphernalia around his hotel room? To throw investigators of the scent of what really might have happened? Obviously if his phone had been with him he could have called for his own help. They apparently kept taking him back to his room after repeated attempts to return to the lobby. He was obviously trying to get some kind of assistance - or go somewhere else.
Apart that I believe that he was getting beaten from unknown gangs, they also staged the scene with drugs & other substance to make it looks like Liam was paranoid & jumped from the balcony.
If he was kicking off why didn't someone film him? He was famous and a multimillionaire so how was he treated so roughly? Massive cover up he should have had medical assistance not locked up and exactly why was he left alone especially as he was supposed to be convulsing being dragged back to his room none of it makes sense 🤔
Exactly, the hotel staff lacked professionalism and simple empathy. Liam needed immediate medical attention. The seizures indicated neurological disorders caused by a life-threatening overdose. A case of negligence in the performance of official duties resulting in death should be filed.
There’s a big difference between what happened when he was a kid & now. Nothing to compare. Before he was just trying to go out & doing normal things kids do. What happened here now is totally different. There’s something sinister going on here. Forget the grubs & alcohol. Focus on who murdered him
How do people explain the 25 injuries not sustained from the fall.??? Fishy, plus why wasn’t an ambulance called straight away , so he could of gone to hospital , he would be alive , if that happened. Plus someone stole his watch. A hotel from hell,
I’m not believing this either, but, 25 internally and external injuries is possible from 40ft fall, lungs, kidneys, ribs, heart, spine, neck, skull, tibia, fibula, ankle, feet, arm, wrist, shoulder, collar bone, ulna, lunate, elbow, knees, hips, pelvis. From a great height, your body falls at speed. The picture I saw, the FULL picture, it looks like he hit back of his head on the concrete umbrella holder as it’s broken, plus he had chair on his leg etc. He also had visible base skull fracture, and b*pod from ear.
His hat was a little away from body and he still had his bag on him, which was taken off when paramedics arrived and photographed separately, but bag was on his body when he fell
@@bexsy34 The bag wasn't on him when he was carried back to his room though. Some have suggested it's the same bag that appears to be worn by one of the men who was carrying him. No idea why they blurred Liam's face though. Was he already unconscious? Or might that be someone else entirely? They certainly took a long time to release that photo. Apparently their CCTV wasn't turned on during the time of Liam's unfortunate demise. Which certainly raises a lot of questions in itself. Where the heck did those images come from?
@ I know. He didn’t have his bag or hat on. But the pictures I’ve seen in full (sadly) shows his hat just to the side of him and his bag over his shoulder, that at the end of the fall rested round his neck area
He was trying to escape to go WHERE? He was already all waisted/drugged and not safe to be outside elsewhere… He was better off to REST. Probably they couldn’t handle him/ his behavior…. They should have call the ambulance, but they provided the drugs so they were afraid. Bad judgment..
I call BS on this because his watch and other items came up missing. Now they’re trying to say 2 days later they found a bag supposedly belonging to Liam on the patio under the one he fell from. The story keeps changing, I feel he was murdered.
Either the hotel royally screwed up and basically killed him and covered it up or this was premeditated and they targeted Liam. With all the inconsistencies and changes in the story I just don’t buy this or how they handled the situation especially the camera situation.
that is totally wrong. he was pushed off that balcony. check the time stamp of the two pictures that have been posted! the one on the 3rd floor was earlier than the one in the lobby! he was MURDERED!!!! and the hotel staff knew what was going on!
This doesnt make sense, he had 25 internal and external injuries with no defensive wounds and didnt try to protect himself from the fall. Hence the fact that he was deemed to have been unconscious! Well, was he unconsious or did he try to escape the room? How did he get 25 injuries from a straight drop?
It was planned ! He was too good! When you are too good they get rid of you. Plus this time if the year uf you notice a lot of people get rid of . If you are too good itt dont work with them. You get no encouragement to carry on. Look at the trail only Diddy can dio and get away with what he is doing! I am ashame of his behavior even to his kids it's awful. Dont let him out he is a danger to society!.
Hotel staff tsk tsk commits serious illegal detention, as defined in Section 1, Article 267 in the Revised Penal Code, refers to any private individual who kidnaps, detains, or deprives another individual of his or her liberty.
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw but considering it was the hotel staff that called the services out of concern why couldn't they keep him on the ground floor .they did mention the concern over the balcony.
@@lillyroth61The sky is still bright in the background of the photo that supposedly shows Liam being carried back to his hotel room. It's obviously still daytime.
Just help give justice to Liam and family. They killed him that’s it, why not call the police right away if he is making any disturbance in the hotel. This is the worst hotel in the whole world. Disgusting…
For a person who do know hotel rooms why will he end his life a real investigation need to be done why will he do any thing to himself while he wants to live for his son something is big wrong
And how does that mesh with the toxicology report? Or the bag on the second floor not being found for 2 days when one of the witnesses stated he was staying on the floor below Liam who allegedly saw him fall? The bag wadnr there when Liam’s dad was looking over the balcony 2 days later. You guys need to be asking more questions.
@ thanks I listened to his interview again and yes he was 2 floors down. My mistake. I also checked original reports and you can see a bag on the balcony below. The only thing is was he in the corner apartment or middle one? As the bag is under the corner one.
What happened to his rolex watch though. Who took it and when. It was always on his wrist so was it taken before or after he fell and by who and was he conscious or not. It sounds more than they put him back in his room and he fell trying to escape.
Just look at the way those two men are carrying him (if that is indeed Liam - we can't tell for sure because his face has been blurred). It wouldn't be too difficult to imagine his watch slipping off (maybe on purpose) in those circumstances. He was also supposedly enjoying the company of two escorts earlier in his room. He didn't want to (or couldn't) pay them. Might they have also had the opportunity to take something? It's all just speculation for now, but somebody knows the answer.
He wasnt wearing the watch when they carried him in the lobby. One of the guys carrying him was also holding his bag. He looked unconcscious. How could he have the bag and his cap with him in the fall if he was unconscious when they brought him to his room? I hope they dont stop investigating. :(
If he was so disruptive way didn't the hotel call the police instead of man handling him? No one has the right to put their hands on him. I would sue everyone involved including the hotel.
Which hotel staff is allowed to behave like this with their guests. When he told them very clearly he doesn't want to go back to his room. If he was unconscious at the lobby thy should have called for help the ambulance. Not carry him like that n put him.back in his room. The hotel needs to shut down this Behaviour is not expected at all. This Behaviour shouldn't be like this to any hotel guests. Thy have no right to force him back up when he said no already.
Yep this is exactly what I stated happened a month ago. That they locked him up, he was trying to escape, had a bag on him and he accidently fell. I had left a review on hotel website stating this and that they should be ashamed to have treated him like a criminal instead of getting him help
They should keep him down the lobby and keep on eye on him, then call police or maybe atlist he is sober, instead of taking him back to his room. How stupid they are to take someone influence with alcohol or drugs and leave in the room unsupervised.
I think he was already over that balcony before that call was made and wouldn’t the staff have phones on them to make a call to the emergency services they could have stayed with him until somebody came.
How do you folk get paid as reporters? One of the three holding a person in the lobby in the doctored photo, that took over a month to emerge had a bag just like Liam's. Just over 10 seconds time stamp this "disruptive man" what a joke 🙄 was taken to the third floor. Even the people in the lobby passing didn't onlook now you would have with a disruptive person leave alone a disruptive celebrity. The concerned call to emergency services before the body was placed. He was killed elsewhere, and it's absolutely obvious to anyone that doesn't drink fluoridated water.
I've also read allegations that his ex Maya Henry must have been involved somehow (because of the things she wrote her "fictional" book). Then I heard Simon Cowell's name mentioned by someone else. It's all just guessing at the moment. Nobody really knows for sure yet.
He didn't just jump he was thrown of the balcony they put his shoes and bag on him before they threw him over why was his other bag found on the second floor balcony
Pushed, thrown over, or placed on the ground? They apparently found an unbroken bottle of whisky next to him. The fall from the 3rd floor supposedly gave Liam 25 different injuries, but the bottle and his cell phone remained completely intact? Yeah right!
@@laurasewell242Nothing they're saying makes any sense. The story keeps changing - and so do the witnesses. Their CCTV was supposedly not working during the time of this incident - but now all of a sudden they're showing us these images of Liam supposedly being taken back to his hotel bedroom. The men who carried him in the two pictures don't even look the same. And why did they feel the need to blur Liam's face? Why not just release the video in it's entirety?
@TartanGrrl I understand you now. I'm just a passerby, hadn't done any research. What you're saying makes sense. I just had a gutreaction when I first heard the story that it definitely wasn't an accident. No one is just erratic without being PROVOKED.
I don’t think Liam was under the influence of drug or alcohol and like that one guy said why would you leave him in the room unattended? If you knew he might try something that hotel is very suspicious and should be investigated. Why would you carry a star like that through the lobby? Why would you have 3 to 4 guys shove him in his room and lock him in there if you knew he didn’t wanna be in there.
@@TartanGrrlthe ms Marples on here the coroner says different on that .his prescription medication says other wise too as well as the hard drugs alcohol
@@nicolasimpkins3640 Liam's official toxicology report was released on November 7th. It confirmed that he only had traces of "alcohol, cocaine and a prescription antidepressant" in his system. He died because of multiple trauma and a hemorrhage, internal and external. He had a total of 25 different injuries. They're claiming they are the result of his "fall" from the balcony - but none of his injuries were defensive, meaning he was probably unconscious at the time of his fall.
Intentional or accidental, or so whatsoever, it's hotel negligence. And it's a month passed, and the bag was found in 2nd flr. It's questionable. amirite?
It just seems he needed an ambulance. Now, hotels deal with people under the influence of whatever, and sometimes to protect them, they wouldn't call the police or ambulance as most people calm down or sleep it off. This had a sad ending and all these questions are simply because of that. Most people indulge in drugs and/or alcohol and they get to leave and go home, sadly this wasn't the case for him. Adding to that, only now did the world get to know how he was struggling with personal things that fueled his behavior. He needed deep help with his mental issues and it's unfortunate he couldn't. Rest well, Liam.
They have no right to lock up a hotel guest even when he is aggressive, disrupts the hotel order and destroys its property. They should have called an ambulance immediately, because he had a seizure indicating a threat to life. And in the meantime, hotel security should have put a straitjacket on Liam and stayed with him. It would have saved his life. Clear dereliction of duty resulting in death.
Didn’t they lock him in the room so he couldn’t get out? And where was this Roger friend of him that knew that he was under the influence, who Liam’s parents counted on pretty much as his sober companion. If that’s the friend, that’s being charged I hope they get him on something . If you know, someone has mental health struggles, and also is under the influence at that time, you do not abandon them
Exactly, Liam's death should be explained. I don't believe it was suicide because he had plans for the future and there was no indication of depression. Someone wants to paint him as a drug addict. Why were there prostitutes in his room when he had a girlfriend???
If any CCTV footage exits, they should just release it - to stop all of the speculation. They don't have to show him falling or hitting the ground. But they could show the moments on the balcony that led up him walking out of his room and becoming unconscious. Same with his alleged erratic behaviour in the lobby - that was supposedly witnessed by quite a few people.
@@nicolasimpkins3640He apparently fell accidentally whilst being unconscious. There were no defensive injuries on his body. He didn't instinctively attempt to protect himself from bodily harm. He just flopped down there like he was already dead.
Yeah, actually there has nobody on the balcony at all. I try to recognize from what he wanted me to know. I could tell more but later. Somebody could find the clues from the "Key", related to cleaning service like a hotelmaid first for example. The car like xxx24, also My suggestion. Please keep in mind that I wasn't in Argentina over there!
Annoyed that this news site is interviewing TMZ for updates when tmz were the ones who were disrespectful in posting that article about Liam during the first week. Liam deserves justice and not updates from a tabloid site. Additionally this aside, I hope tabloids can be respectful for celebrities because they are human beings.
Why no ambulance or police? Why is a hotel employee handling a guest like this? That is not their job or observing duty of care. He knew he was being imprisoned. The hotel staff should be jailed. Is it true what his girlfriend said, that he had to wait for his visa to return to US? Or was his manager just saying that. Didn’t he have a drug test to get the visa? His blood returned no drugs in his system. I don’t understand the timeline or stories I’ve heard.
Poor decisions…Unfortunately, it was Liam’s decision to step out over that balcony and onto that ledge, no one forced him to do that. So the majority of the blame ultimately, lay with Liam. The staff had no way knowing what Liam might do and they certainly had no knowledge of his history of trying to escaping hotels and therefore could not have known that they had put Liam in a potentially dangerous situation. Either way this was a terribly sad event. Praying for Liam’s loved ones, his soul and the hotel employee’s who might be struggling with guilt or post traumatic stress over the event.
There was an interesting comment from a medium believe in them or not who claims he said they were blackmailing him and injected him in his hairline and he had a bad allergic reaction to whatever that substance was in order to control him. Once the manic reaction started, someone has photos but they all fled like rats from the scene. So it wasn’t intentional murder nor was it suicide. Just another perspective.
Nah Babcock management put him in that fn room! If they were worried about him they woulda not put him there. They trapped him n a room its a trap house hotel style
@@RogerMellie-yk3gwIt's all fun and games - until it's not. They exchange their freedom in return for everything that they get. If they don't sell enough records to pay back all of the money that has been invested in their career - then it all goes downhill. Some people really ARE worth more dead than alive. There are usually some extremely large insurance policies involved. Just follow the money.
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw I don't think he enjoyed being quietly dropped by his record label shortly before he passed away. Apparently there were disagreements about the kind of music he should be making after his last album failed to meet their expectations. It's a tough industry to thrive in. There isn't a lot of wiggle room to be yourself. You're mostly just expected to do as you're told. Again, not much fun to be found in that position. Unless money is all you desire - a lot of people just sell themselves out because it's the easiest route to take. But they aren't necessarily enjoying themselves. They're paid to look happy.
@TartanGrrl Surely he had enough money to easily be comfortable for the rest of his life. And it's not like he was an actual musician with any talent. Just some manufactured popstar from the X Factor about fifteen years ago.
This poor lad was tortured as soon he set foot in that hotel and now murdered they should of closed the hotel til the investigation was properly done and got the truth but no they are trying to cover it up to make it look suicide
There's no evidence that he ever slept with them. Apparently he refused to pay them. Someone at the hotel apparently sent them up to his room. Not sure who asked them to do that though. Is this a service they offer to all of their famous guests?!
So he was locked in his room. Since when does hotel staff have authority to lock someone in 😡
Since when can they manhandle him in the lobby....
They have no right to lock up a hotel guest even when he is aggressive, disrupts the hotel order and destroys its property. They should have called an ambulance immediately, because he had a seizure indicating a threat to life. And in the meantime, hotel security should have put a straitjacket on Liam and stayed with him. It would have saved his life. Clear dereliction of duty resulting in death.
They are liable for his death, if they locked him in there. I mean he had a serious seizure. :(
Y'all don't buy everything that is said on TV. Even he said that this is what "we" _think_ happened. Currently, remember: context.
Secondly remember he said this scenario is likely, at most, he never said there's evidence of it and then he does continue to speak on about hotel people as if this created story wasn't says to still only be speculation from the beginning of this conversation.
Explain his injuries, internal and external, they were not just from a fall in my opinion.
nobody talks of this it’s crucial
agree, and the fact he didn’t break his fall AT ALL. If he was conscious and was trying to escape he would have fall reflex
Agree
@@luvchloeeeeeexactly
You just dont leave a vulnerable person locked up in a room by himself!!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Nah. The kid was fine
I think he'd already fallen to his death when the staff made the emergency call. Saying in the emergency call that they are scared he might fall is a cover up.
Why is noone talking about the fact that Liam said in a past interview that after having Bear he would never do things to risk his life! This is all a cover up! Liam was murdered! I hope we get to the truth!
He fell accidentally yes he was under the influence
He was under the influence. Unless you have any unequivocal proof, you cannot blame others for the fact that he was under the influence. He was an adult. He was his own responsibility.
That hotel is gonna have huge lawsuits. You cannot lock guests in their rooms. They should have banned him from the hotel.
@@KevinDuthie-l6w So, are yo suggesting he should have been thrown out of the hotel to sleep on the street at 1am in the morning to avoid lawsuits?
Just for the record: good luck with the “huge lawsuits” in Argentina. The Judicial system is so slow you might find yourself waiting a couple of decades before getting anything out of the lawsuit.
@@lillyroth61 If he was causing trouble they should have called the police to have him removed from the premises. If he was experiencing a medical emergency - he should never have been left alone in his hotel room (if he ever was).
@@lillyroth61 don’t twist things. He shouldn’t be locked in his room. If they put him out of the hotel he’d probably be alive today. Not to avoid lawsuits. U r one cynical kid.
it was 5 PM in the afternoon . And yes if he was convulsing or causing a disturbance call the police and ambulance
I hope so. It’s already a shattering loss. His dad won’t let this slide.
The first witness, Bret Watson, said that he was in the room right below Liam's room!
How it is possible that he didn't see the bag on his balcony for 2 days?!
not only that .. liam’s dad was on the balcony photographed the next day and there was no brown bag on the floor below
@@teresajune11Right.
Exactly
Plus it’s being said bag wasn’t found till 2 days later. and it said “for Liam “ I call BS
When was Liam's father at the hotel? Two days later? If a bag was there, doesn't he have to confirm to the police that it's Liam's bag?
He was murdered
Who dunnit?
I think it was excessive force look at the third guy in the video with shorts and he has the purse or holding the purse....this guy looks like a thug and super strong
He was a drug addict!
From a fan? Drug dealers?
yeah i think it was u
False information check the time stamp on both them pictures
Agreed! Seems like they're trying to cover it up!
There is a big differance here about taking him to his room or being locked in the room by 4 big bullies what legal authority did this hotel have to force him and man handle him drag him and lock him in the room ..why was he not allowed to leave the hotel ..what legal authority did the hotel have to stop him leaving the hotel on his own free will . Why was he being treated as a lock up prisoner this hotel has a lot to answer for who was ordering this
That's cool and everything but it's different country hard to prosecute or investigate...his family need to hire some good lawyers and investigators along with UK gov to have some jurisdiction there or else it's cold case
It doesn't make any sense. Why would Liam - a 31 year old man - need to "escape" from his hotel room? Surely he was free to just walk himself out at any time? And if not - who was responsible for trying to keep him in there? Who instructed he be taken back to his bedroom? If he was having seizures in the lobby - like one of the hotel guests had previously reported then surely the hotel had a basic duty of care to call an ambulance? He should NEVER have been lifted up like he apparently was in that photo they released - and he should NEVER have been left alone. Something definitely stinks to high heaven. Why did they blur Liam's face in the photo? Was that even him? We have no real evidence that it was.
Exactly - he could call the cops or his "friend" Rogelio
@@voltron0518 could it be possible he's faking his own death to get away from stardom? I've known some like that
@@laurasewell242It's very doubtful, he adored his young son.
@@laurasewell242 No - not at all.
@@TartanGrrl ti's a shame then
The brown leather bag that was supposedly left on the second floor balcony is visible in google images from BEFORE Liams stay at the hotel. It was not his leather bag - it’s a huge coverup. 😔
Extraordinary claimes require extraordinary evidence.
Which google images can you see the bag in? Thanks
Was there a bomb in the bag? I think the Alaska mafia were involved.
What google images can you see the bag, somebody else said this
Exactly. IF that bag had been there why didn’t residents of the room below Liam see it.
Another death being covered up. I'm fed up.
Who’s feeding these lies??? I call BS!! He was placed on the ground, not a fall from the balcony. Why wasn’t his phone or liquor bottle broken??
Because someone might have placed them on the ground next to his body? Just like they might have placed all of that drug paraphernalia around his hotel room? To throw investigators of the scent of what really might have happened? Obviously if his phone had been with him he could have called for his own help. They apparently kept taking him back to his room after repeated attempts to return to the lobby. He was obviously trying to get some kind of assistance - or go somewhere else.
It Don't Sound right
Exactly there is something fishy going on from Riverside California R.I.P
@@ingridshillehyeah this guy was to important. Singers and celebs are to important for it not to be fishy.
@SunbeamGiant right lol
Wrong, latest toxoligy report , he was clean !!!!!!
Set up
Apart that I believe that he was getting beaten from unknown gangs, they also staged the scene with drugs & other substance to make it looks like Liam was paranoid & jumped from the balcony.
If he was kicking off why didn't someone film him? He was famous and a multimillionaire so how was he treated so roughly? Massive cover up he should have had medical assistance not locked up and exactly why was he left alone especially as he was supposed to be convulsing being dragged back to his room none of it makes sense 🤔
Exactly, the hotel staff lacked professionalism and simple empathy. Liam needed immediate medical attention. The seizures indicated neurological disorders caused by a life-threatening overdose. A case of negligence in the performance of official duties resulting in death should be filed.
To shame a person for kicking off by filming them isn't right it's the last thing to think of
There’s a big difference between what happened when he was a kid & now. Nothing to compare. Before he was just trying to go out & doing normal things kids do. What happened here now is totally different. There’s something sinister going on here. Forget the grubs & alcohol. Focus on who murdered him
The truth will come to light!!
The hotel does not have the right to stop some body leave or man handle.. drag ..by 4 big bullies
Ok. So, you would have allowed him to break into the streets, well after midnight? Maybe they were trying to protect him from street thugs?
😢
Liam was MURDERED.
Don't be ridiculous he fell under the influence
@@nicolasimpkins3640 Then where's his watch?
Please present FACTS to support that claim
They had no right to lock him in the room and I wouldn't believe a word from TMZ The Hotel needs to be held accountable for Liam's passing 😡😡😡
How do people explain the 25 injuries not sustained from the fall.??? Fishy, plus why wasn’t an ambulance called straight away , so he could of gone to hospital , he would be alive , if that happened.
Plus someone stole his watch. A hotel from hell,
I’m not believing this either, but, 25 internally and external injuries is possible from 40ft fall, lungs, kidneys, ribs, heart, spine, neck, skull, tibia, fibula, ankle, feet, arm, wrist, shoulder, collar bone, ulna, lunate, elbow, knees, hips, pelvis. From a great height, your body falls at speed. The picture I saw, the FULL picture, it looks like he hit back of his head on the concrete umbrella holder as it’s broken, plus he had chair on his leg etc. He also had visible base skull fracture, and b*pod from ear.
Yeah his watch and chain link bracelet were not on his body on fall full picture
His hat was a little away from body and he still had his bag on him, which was taken off when paramedics arrived and photographed separately, but bag was on his body when he fell
@@bexsy34 The bag wasn't on him when he was carried back to his room though. Some have suggested it's the same bag that appears to be worn by one of the men who was carrying him. No idea why they blurred Liam's face though. Was he already unconscious? Or might that be someone else entirely? They certainly took a long time to release that photo. Apparently their CCTV wasn't turned on during the time of Liam's unfortunate demise. Which certainly raises a lot of questions in itself. Where the heck did those images come from?
@ I know. He didn’t have his bag or hat on. But the pictures I’ve seen in full (sadly) shows his hat just to the side of him and his bag over his shoulder, that at the end of the fall rested round his neck area
Who the hell is gonna believe TMZ…
He was trying to escape to go WHERE? He was already all waisted/drugged and not safe to be outside elsewhere… He was better off to REST. Probably they couldn’t handle him/ his behavior…. They should have call the ambulance, but they provided the drugs so they were afraid. Bad judgment..
Liam didn't look conscious to me....
Stop trying to cover it up
the story keeps changing... first it was suicide, then drugs and now he tried to escape?
So they held him hostage inside that room against his will 🧐 sounds like criminal liability to me
They didn't. He was just sat on the balcony and slipped off.
Then why weren't there defensive hand positions? He had to be conscious to climb over- don't believe a word of it
I call BS on this because his watch and other items came up missing. Now they’re trying to say 2 days later they found a bag supposedly belonging to Liam on the patio under the one he fell from. The story keeps changing, I feel he was murdered.
Either the hotel royally screwed up and basically killed him and covered it up or this was premeditated and they targeted Liam. With all the inconsistencies and changes in the story I just don’t buy this or how they handled the situation especially the camera situation.
Staged to make it look like that ffs
His family needs to sue
Who witnessed him being disruptive? Hotel staff for a cover up or someone else?
that is totally wrong. he was pushed off that balcony. check the time stamp of the two pictures that have been posted! the one on the 3rd floor was earlier than the one in the lobby! he was MURDERED!!!! and the hotel staff knew what was going on!
This doesnt make sense, he had 25 internal and external injuries with no defensive wounds and didnt try to protect himself from the fall. Hence the fact that he was deemed to have been unconscious! Well, was he unconsious or did he try to escape the room? How did he get 25 injuries from a straight drop?
It wasn’t a massive height!
It was planned ! He was too good! When you are too good they get rid of you. Plus this time if the year uf you notice a lot of people get rid of . If you are too good itt dont work with them. You get no encouragement to carry on. Look at the trail only Diddy can dio and get away with what he is doing! I am ashame of his behavior even to his kids it's awful. Dont let him out he is a danger to society!.
Hotel staff tsk tsk commits serious illegal detention, as defined in Section 1, Article 267 in the Revised Penal Code, refers to any private individual who kidnaps, detains, or deprives another individual of his or her liberty.
I wod say they beat him up before locking him up in his room.
This is a murder and cover up.
Hotels fault for not helping him
Nonsense. They're a hotel, not therapists. He was a grown man. Not the hotel's responsibility to control his boozing
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw but considering it was the hotel staff that called the services out of concern why couldn't they keep him on the ground floor .they did mention the concern over the balcony.
@@melgrant7404 I'm not sure if that isn't just fake news, though. Maybe he just fell off the balcony
they couldn't wait for him to check out but then they drag him back to the room and lock him in ffs! the whole lot of them should be charged!
@@lauriescott6564 charged with what? With not throwing a passenger on the street after midnight?
@@lillyroth61The sky is still bright in the background of the photo that supposedly shows Liam being carried back to his hotel room. It's obviously still daytime.
@@lillyroth61It was 5pm late afternoon when this happened
Just help give justice to Liam and family. They killed him that’s it, why not call the police right away if he is making any disturbance in the hotel. This is the worst hotel in the whole world. Disgusting…
For a person who do know hotel rooms why will he end his life a real investigation need to be done why will he do any thing to himself while he wants to live for his son something is big wrong
And how does that mesh with the toxicology report? Or the bag on the second floor not being found for 2 days when one of the witnesses stated he was staying on the floor below Liam who allegedly saw him fall? The bag wadnr there when Liam’s dad was looking over the balcony 2 days later. You guys need to be asking more questions.
Witness Bret Watson was staying TWO floors below Liam. His dad visited the room in-between.
@ thanks I listened to his interview again and yes he was 2 floors down. My mistake. I also checked original reports and you can see a bag on the balcony below. The only thing is was he in the corner apartment or middle one? As the bag is under the corner one.
What happened to his rolex watch though. Who took it and when. It was always on his wrist so was it taken before or after he fell and by who and was he conscious or not. It sounds more than they put him back in his room and he fell trying to escape.
Just look at the way those two men are carrying him (if that is indeed Liam - we can't tell for sure because his face has been blurred). It wouldn't be too difficult to imagine his watch slipping off (maybe on purpose) in those circumstances. He was also supposedly enjoying the company of two escorts earlier in his room. He didn't want to (or couldn't) pay them. Might they have also had the opportunity to take something? It's all just speculation for now, but somebody knows the answer.
He wasnt wearing the watch when they carried him in the lobby. One of the guys carrying him was also holding his bag. He looked unconcscious. How could he have the bag and his cap with him in the fall if he was unconscious when they brought him to his room? I hope they dont stop investigating. :(
If he was so disruptive way didn't the hotel call the police instead of man handling him? No one has the right to put their hands on him. I would sue everyone involved including the hotel.
Which hotel staff is allowed to behave like this with their guests. When he told them very clearly he doesn't want to go back to his room. If he was unconscious at the lobby thy should have called for help the ambulance. Not carry him like that n put him.back in his room. The hotel needs to shut down this Behaviour is not expected at all. This Behaviour shouldn't be like this to any hotel guests. Thy have no right to force him back up when he said no already.
Sacrificed , this world is evil
Yep this is exactly what I stated happened a month ago. That they locked him up, he was trying to escape, had a bag on him and he accidently fell. I had left a review on hotel website stating this and that they should be ashamed to have treated him like a criminal instead of getting him help
They should keep him down the lobby and keep on eye on him, then call police or maybe atlist he is sober, instead of taking him back to his room. How stupid they are to take someone influence with alcohol or drugs and leave in the room unsupervised.
What about his Rolex?
It’s not a clear answer. Do your research. It’s a cover up
Wheres the rolex
what authority does people in this hotel has to lock up liam in his room? liam is a guest in this hotel and not a prisoner
Still trying to blame drugs yet the toxicology report came back clean why are you pushing this narrative
I think he was already over that balcony before that call was made and wouldn’t the staff have phones on them to make a call to the emergency services they could have stayed with him until somebody came.
To protect the image of all employees....
@@HexiH04 Or perhaps more importantly - the image of the hotel.
What ever happens in the dark always comes out in the light
How do you folk get paid as reporters? One of the three holding a person in the lobby in the doctored photo, that took over a month to emerge had a bag just like Liam's.
Just over 10 seconds time stamp this "disruptive man" what a joke 🙄 was taken to the third floor. Even the people in the lobby passing didn't onlook now you would have with a disruptive person leave alone a disruptive celebrity.
The concerned call to emergency services before the body was placed.
He was killed elsewhere, and it's absolutely obvious to anyone that doesn't drink fluoridated water.
I dont believe any of this
How can a hotel lock a paying guest in there room, this is illegal. He would still be alive if they had just let him go about his business.
I'm starting to think he was murdered
Totally staged room staged events pre planned murder 😏
It was murder!
Or Diddy had him killed
Definitely. It was a Diddy and Alaskan mafia Collab
I've also read allegations that his ex Maya Henry must have been involved somehow (because of the things she wrote her "fictional" book). Then I heard Simon Cowell's name mentioned by someone else. It's all just guessing at the moment. Nobody really knows for sure yet.
Look who this is coming from TMZ they are so full of bs , Liam was murdered and so many people are trying to cover their asses by lying on Liam.
TMZ actually gets things right.
And they expect us to believe that 😮
We can’t believe ANYTHING that TMZ claims!
You don’t have your facts straight.
He didn't just jump he was thrown of the balcony they put his shoes and bag on him before they threw him over why was his other bag found on the second floor balcony
He was pushed/murdered in some way. Probably for comin onto the wrong girl. (Original comment was just 'he was pushed.')
Pushed, thrown over, or placed on the ground? They apparently found an unbroken bottle of whisky next to him. The fall from the 3rd floor supposedly gave Liam 25 different injuries, but the bottle and his cell phone remained completely intact? Yeah right!
And missing Rolex.
@@laurasewell242Nothing they're saying makes any sense. The story keeps changing - and so do the witnesses. Their CCTV was supposedly not working during the time of this incident - but now all of a sudden they're showing us these images of Liam supposedly being taken back to his hotel bedroom. The men who carried him in the two pictures don't even look the same. And why did they feel the need to blur Liam's face? Why not just release the video in it's entirety?
@TartanGrrl I understand you now. I'm just a passerby, hadn't done any research. What you're saying makes sense. I just had a gutreaction when I first heard the story that it definitely wasn't an accident. No one is just erratic without being PROVOKED.
@TartanGrrl I guarantee they intentionally deleted the cctvand the hotel staff has all been paid to keep their mouths shut
Random staff go through the terrible of wrestling someone into the room he is purchasing and lock him in.
Fault of the Hotel Staffs!
I don’t think Liam was under the influence of drug or alcohol and like that one guy said why would you leave him in the room unattended? If you knew he might try something that hotel is very suspicious and should be investigated. Why would you carry a star like that through the lobby? Why would you have 3 to 4 guys shove him in his room and lock him in there if you knew he didn’t wanna be in there.
Don't do drugs kids
He apparently only had cocaine, alcohol, and antidepressants in his system. All of those other suggestions were a complete lie.
Set up @@TartanGrrl
@@TartanGrrlthe ms Marples on here the coroner says different on that .his prescription medication says other wise too as well as the hard drugs alcohol
@@nicolasimpkins3640 Liam's official toxicology report was released on November 7th. It confirmed that he only had traces of "alcohol, cocaine and a prescription antidepressant" in his system. He died because of multiple trauma and a hemorrhage, internal and external. He had a total of 25 different injuries. They're claiming they are the result of his "fall" from the balcony - but none of his injuries were defensive, meaning he was probably unconscious at the time of his fall.
Intentional or accidental, or so whatsoever, it's hotel negligence. And it's a month passed, and the bag was found in 2nd flr. It's questionable. amirite?
It just seems he needed an ambulance. Now, hotels deal with people under the influence of whatever, and sometimes to protect them, they wouldn't call the police or ambulance as most people calm down or sleep it off. This had a sad ending and all these questions are simply because of that. Most people indulge in drugs and/or alcohol and they get to leave and go home, sadly this wasn't the case for him. Adding to that, only now did the world get to know how he was struggling with personal things that fueled his behavior. He needed deep help with his mental issues and it's unfortunate he couldn't. Rest well, Liam.
That is what they want you to believe. It's all a big cover up.
Blaming the hotel in any way is ridiculous
They have no right to lock up a hotel guest even when he is aggressive, disrupts the hotel order and destroys its property. They should have called an ambulance immediately, because he had a seizure indicating a threat to life. And in the meantime, hotel security should have put a straitjacket on Liam and stayed with him. It would have saved his life. Clear dereliction of duty resulting in death.
Didn’t they lock him in the room so he couldn’t get out? And where was this Roger friend of him that knew that he was under the influence, who Liam’s parents counted on pretty much as his sober companion.
If that’s the friend, that’s being charged I hope they get him on something .
If you know, someone has mental health struggles, and also is under the influence at that time, you do not abandon them
Exactly, Liam's death should be explained. I don't believe it was suicide because he had plans for the future and there was no indication of depression. Someone wants to paint him as a drug addict. Why were there prostitutes in his room when he had a girlfriend???
The hotel are responsible for his death HOW could they have left him alone in such a state ??
Sadly it seems like the ones that need help rarely get it. Such a terrible loss.
But I remember a journalist said that CCTV cameras show Liam fainting to his fall over the balcony which one was it
A eye witness saw he him fall accidently
If any CCTV footage exits, they should just release it - to stop all of the speculation. They don't have to show him falling or hitting the ground. But they could show the moments on the balcony that led up him walking out of his room and becoming unconscious. Same with his alleged erratic behaviour in the lobby - that was supposedly witnessed by quite a few people.
he didn't jump!and it wasn't intentional!!!!!!!!!
He fell accidentally
@@nicolasimpkins3640He apparently fell accidentally whilst being unconscious. There were no defensive injuries on his body. He didn't instinctively attempt to protect himself from bodily harm. He just flopped down there like he was already dead.
Yeah, actually there has nobody on the balcony at all. I try to recognize from what he wanted me to know. I could tell more but later. Somebody could find the clues from the "Key", related to cleaning service like a hotelmaid first for example. The car like xxx24, also My suggestion. Please keep in mind that I wasn't in Argentina over there!
Annoyed that this news site is interviewing TMZ for updates when tmz were the ones who were disrespectful in posting that article about Liam during the first week. Liam deserves justice and not updates from a tabloid site. Additionally this aside, I hope tabloids can be respectful for celebrities because they are human beings.
Why no ambulance or police? Why is a hotel employee handling a guest like this? That is not their job or observing duty of care. He knew he was being imprisoned. The hotel staff should be jailed. Is it true what his girlfriend said, that he had to wait for his visa to return to US? Or was his manager just saying that. Didn’t he have a drug test to get the visa? His blood returned no drugs in his system. I don’t understand the timeline or stories I’ve heard.
Poor decisions…Unfortunately, it was Liam’s decision to step out over that balcony and onto that ledge, no one forced him to do that. So the majority of the blame ultimately, lay with Liam. The staff had no way knowing what Liam might do and they certainly had no knowledge of his history of trying to escaping hotels and therefore could not have known that they had put Liam in a potentially dangerous situation.
Either way this was a terribly sad event. Praying for Liam’s loved ones, his soul and the hotel employee’s who might be struggling with guilt or post traumatic stress over the event.
This could have so easily been prevented 😢
There was an interesting comment from a medium believe in them or not who claims he said they were blackmailing him and injected him in his hairline and he had a bad allergic reaction to whatever that substance was in order to control him. Once the manic reaction started, someone has photos but they all fled like rats from the scene. So it wasn’t intentional murder nor was it suicide. Just another perspective.
Nah Babcock management put him in that fn room! If they were worried about him they woulda not put him there. They trapped him n a room its a trap house hotel style
Fame is a curse.
It's not. You get loads of money, free drugs and clunge. It's amazing for twenty somethings.
@@RogerMellie-yk3gwIt's all fun and games - until it's not. They exchange their freedom in return for everything that they get. If they don't sell enough records to pay back all of the money that has been invested in their career - then it all goes downhill. Some people really ARE worth more dead than alive. There are usually some extremely large insurance policies involved. Just follow the money.
@@TartanGrrl I don't know. It looks pretty fun being a popstar. This kid seemed to enjoy himself
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw I don't think he enjoyed being quietly dropped by his record label shortly before he passed away. Apparently there were disagreements about the kind of music he should be making after his last album failed to meet their expectations. It's a tough industry to thrive in. There isn't a lot of wiggle room to be yourself. You're mostly just expected to do as you're told. Again, not much fun to be found in that position. Unless money is all you desire - a lot of people just sell themselves out because it's the easiest route to take. But they aren't necessarily enjoying themselves. They're paid to look happy.
@TartanGrrl Surely he had enough money to easily be comfortable for the rest of his life. And it's not like he was an actual musician with any talent. Just some manufactured popstar from the X Factor about fifteen years ago.
Lies...its a cover up !
Investigation into Maya Henry and family for the murder of Liam Payne.
When is the investigation. To begin do let me know in uk
This poor lad was tortured as soon he set foot in that hotel and now murdered they should of closed the hotel til the investigation was properly done and got the truth but no they are trying to cover it up to make it look suicide
He fought for his life. I don't believe this narrative.
In the pic were they carrying him the guy on the left has liams bag on his shoulder
They forced him to the room when they should of gotten him help sooner.
I love Liam but the fact he slept with prostitutes is something I can’t understand 💔
Exactly, he posted photos with his girlfriend before. That makes no sense.
There's no evidence that he ever slept with them. Apparently he refused to pay them. Someone at the hotel apparently sent them up to his room. Not sure who asked them to do that though. Is this a service they offer to all of their famous guests?!