Chopin: authentic iconography
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2018
- Images of Chopin compared to the Chopin/Clésinger death mask including the daguerreotypes of 1845 and 1847 and the Winterhalter drawing of 1847, accompanied by Chopin's mazurka in C minor, Op.30 no.1, performed by Jack Gibbons.
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The gifted, poetic soul. Oh, beautiful hands. I am so thankful,so grateful for his life.
Happy birthday Chopin.
Facsinating.
What's strange is that all images indeed fit the mask almost perfectly but look quite different from each other, so that in the end I'm still a bit perplexed as to what Chopin really looked like ... I believe that the earlier daguerreotype (only presumed to be Chopin) is the closest to reality. Both the mask and the 1849 picture soften the aquiline nose and give the impression of fuller facial features than in reality.
.Btw if I'm not mistaken the 1849 picture is a real photo (i.e. using a negative), not a daguerreotype
Thank you for the efforts and love put into this video.
I think Chopin would complain that his face would sometimes swell-up and maybe that is why he does not look the same in each picture.
death mask is imo the most accurate. Mahler lived much later than FC, when (b&w) photography was pretty much perfected, with many clear shots of him... his death mask is virtually identical to his pics, same thing.
I see pics of myself and they are all slightly different
Just to clarify, both photographs are from the same source. Both were uncovered together at the offices of Chopin’s Leipzig publisher Breitkopf & Härtel in 1936 so if the provenance of one is rejected both have to be rejected. The lesser known image has been reproduced less simply because of its deteriorated condition. Neither images are daguerreotypes but photographic copies of the originals taken by Czeslaw Olszewki (the originals were lost in WWII). The original images could not have been taken any later than 1847 (at the studio of L.A.Bisson at 65 rue Saint-Germain l'Auxerrois, which then moved). As for reports of Chopin’s complaints about a swollen face, those date from later (in Britain). What we’re actually seeing in these images are the sharp edges of his lower jaw, not swelling of the face (again, they fit perfectly with the shape of his jaw on the death mask).
Beautiful Thankyou 🌹🎹🎹🌹
Thanks and great choice of Mazurka for the solemn video.
great video ! chopin was a legend !
Dream Chopin forever in eternity ♪🌟
The artist is quite awake - moreso than any of us are!
He passed into Paradise in a state of grace, and I do not even doubt that he is actively making more beautiful music in Heaven 🎆
Hmm. I always thought that the second daguerreotype was taken in 1849.
The Bisson daguerreotype always billed as 1849 is actually in 1847 just about the time of the split with Geroge Sand. Chopin died in October 1849 and actually lived in the outskirts of Paris in the summer before his death moving back into the city proper only a very short time before his death. See Alan Walker's bio of Chopin which is the best there is and chucks away many wrong assertions.
Amazing, and so ingenious of you to do this: it's as though the poor man never moved a muscle!
Amazing
Very striking images.
Thanks.
Uma trabalho de investigador.
Étonnant et très émouvant. Merci
très belle interprétation
🌼🌼🌼🌻🌻
who is the pianist here?
Jack Gibbons
@@ottonormalo4638 I had not heard or heard about Jack Gibbons until recently. That was my loss. He is a wonderful musician. He does arrangements of Gershwin that are ingenious.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Isn't it true the original death mask they destroyed because his face was so distorted from a medical condition and the new one was cleaned-up? This mask may still not be 100% accurate on how he looked.
You can find the original death mask with a simple google search.
This is what Alan Walker says in his video on Chopin/s death:
ua-cam.com/video/o8-YhA4UZGA/v-deo.html
He also shows another mask.
@@rogerg4916
Wow. What a difference from the official well-known mask in your video. The original mask doesn't even look like Chopin but rather more like a bald, middle-aged man. I can see why this death mask was rejected. I suspect the death bed drawings may have been touched up a little bit as well. It looks to me that Chopin may have been paralyzed on one side of his face from the way his face is twisted.
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Someone with Photoshop hability sould make him with open eyes and colored skin
Ask photoshopsurgeon
@@manuelbes i made a photoshop image if you want it write here your email, the original picture of chopin is in a little bit different angle (2nd one on this video)so some shadows are not perfect also in the pic chopin have muscular tone, in the death mask chopin has a peace face so thats what i saw making the picture but for me, yes he is in the second pic of this video
@@Gilopflor no but do you know the youtuber photoshopsurgeon, he's pretty good at photoshop,(you should check him out) and I know he did things like how Mozart looked in real life, he did the same with Marie Antoinette (but it's less realistic, looks like lady gaga😐) and I think he's maybe going to do the same thing with Alexander hamilton(it's being asked a lot) and maybe other people, we should ask him!
@@Gilopflorlike that one with mozart: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DfXgTuZX0AlQ&ved=2ahUKEwiTh4iX2vrhAhWU5OAKHYvYAVsQwqsBMAB6BAgBEAU&usg=AOvVaw1la20dNSuSpKSimm2kcs-U
@@Gilopflor we should ask him to do the same thing with chopin but instead of the painting or pictures, making it according to the death mask and adjust with paint and photo references, it would be cool!
Of corse you never saw Hadi karimi work....lol. wat Photoshop...