Lol I was saying this out to myself and then figured someone already said, scrolled to the comments and you nailed it. Have to give the software consistent conditions for a few seconds so it can get a good calculation and try a couple of options. Also, not sure if they were using the "manual" transmission mode here or not, but based on what some people are reporting, certain XMode settings and traction conditions will cause the CVT to start as if it were starting in "2nd" and setting it to Manual mode and leaving it in 1 can produce better results in some situations, especially for climbing with low traction. I'm not sure if the automated systems are taking incline angle into account, but if they're not this would mean that manually controlling the "gears" when climbing with reduced traction, may be the best way to go.
KO2s in any realistic, applicable size are way too heavy and overkill unless your commute looks like the test track in this video. Highly recommend Toyo Open Country AT3s in 225/65R17 for the Forester. I have a 1.75” spring lift on my 2021 Sport and those tires are a perfect match for everyday driving and off road fun.
@@TheDrivewire Yea probably, or falcon wildpeak at3w's. Apparently the geolander tires they put on it are not a very aggressive tire for off roading. They have been very good on road in the rain though. I guess I'll find out what they're like in the snow next month. Have you driven it in the snow yet?
I wanted to buy a Wilderness but we REFUSE to buy another vehicle with 33 year old Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors which became popular in 1990. Over 1/2 of my life every automobile manufacturer has been shoving those drab, dark colors down everyone’s throats. So I opted to buy the Touring model so that I could get the Saddle Brown interior. I’ve had several complements on my saddle brown and my wife has gotten several complements on her Ivory interior as well. Everyone is so use to seeing Depressing colors that anything else is like a breath of fresh air.
I don't like that you have to spin your wheels for 5 seconds in order for a computer to "figure out" where to put the power and where to apply the break. It makes a mess of trails and roads in the process. Then there are questions of the system's durability that can't be answered yet because it's still a new model. You need a locking rear differential and low gear to reliably drive roads such as these, along with at least 9.5 inches of road clearance.
The regular Forester gets better MPG at 26/33 due to different final drive ratio. The Wilderness is set up for better low speed crawling off road.
You gotta stay on throttle so the traction control can do its thing.
Lol I was saying this out to myself and then figured someone already said, scrolled to the comments and you nailed it. Have to give the software consistent conditions for a few seconds so it can get a good calculation and try a couple of options.
Also, not sure if they were using the "manual" transmission mode here or not, but based on what some people are reporting, certain XMode settings and traction conditions will cause the CVT to start as if it were starting in "2nd" and setting it to Manual mode and leaving it in 1 can produce better results in some situations, especially for climbing with low traction. I'm not sure if the automated systems are taking incline angle into account, but if they're not this would mean that manually controlling the "gears" when climbing with reduced traction, may be the best way to go.
Came here to say the same thing. They had 0.5 seconds of tire spin and let off the throttle and called it "stuck" lol.
They also didn't air down at all.
Better driver and more understanding of how X-Mode works and you’d not have been stuck at all either time.
The driver is an important step as well ! This one i would fail !
where is this course at?
It’s close to the border with San Diego and Mexico, Otay Mesa off road area.
What would you recommend as replacement rough road tires (wheels?) for the Wilderness? Nice review.
BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A K02, or the less expensive Falken Wildpeak A/T trail.
KO2s in any realistic, applicable size are way too heavy and overkill unless your commute looks like the test track in this video. Highly recommend Toyo Open Country AT3s in 225/65R17 for the Forester. I have a 1.75” spring lift on my 2021 Sport and those tires are a perfect match for everyday driving and off road fun.
Its a little beast these were some steep climbs on alot of loose dirt. Great job subie.
Nice video. Were you using any of the x-mode functions during your off roading?
We certainly did but I think bigger tires would have helped.
@@TheDrivewire Yea probably, or falcon wildpeak at3w's. Apparently the geolander tires they put on it are not a very aggressive tire for off roading. They have been very good on road in the rain though.
I guess I'll find out what they're like in the snow next month. Have you driven it in the snow yet?
nice review! where is this?
Did you air down the tires at all off road?
No we kept them as the manufacturer recommends
If you off-road in those conditions, and don’t air down you don’t know what you are doing
I wanted to buy a Wilderness but we REFUSE to buy another vehicle with 33 year old Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors which became popular in 1990. Over 1/2 of my life every automobile manufacturer has been shoving those drab, dark colors down everyone’s throats.
So I opted to buy the Touring model so that I could get the Saddle Brown interior.
I’ve had several complements on my saddle brown and my wife has gotten several complements on her Ivory interior as well.
Everyone is so use to seeing Depressing colors that anything else is like a breath of fresh air.
I like black interiors,but I agree the saddle brown is awesome looking
I don't like that you have to spin your wheels for 5 seconds in order for a computer to "figure out" where to put the power and where to apply the break. It makes a mess of trails and roads in the process. Then there are questions of the system's durability that can't be answered yet because it's still a new model. You need a locking rear differential and low gear to reliably drive roads such as these, along with at least 9.5 inches of road clearance.