Timestamps: 00:00 Patron Shout-out 00:42 Intro 01:50 Carl Jung's Archetypes 06:48 Book Recommendations 08:47 Modern Interpretations 12:34 How To Identify Your Archetypes 14:01 Introducing My Archetypes 15:36 The Mad Scientist 18:34 The Inner Child & Inner Teenager 21:16 The Fighter 23:30 The Hopeless Romantic 25:01 The Healer 26:41 The Prophet 28:31 The Sensory Enthusiast 31:02 The Achiever 33:59 Game Results 34:56 How To Use Archetypes in Your Magical Practice
Thank you Ivy for this insightful and educative video. I can't say I fully grasp how I could immediately put this into use, but I have been wrestling a lot as to how I can develop the self confidence I used to have in my youth to overcome a lot of situations I now fall into where I literally let people get away with certain ways they do act towards me. I have been even thinking how I can use magic to bring some aggressiveness into my life because later years I have suddenly become a Mr too soft and afraid to get things head on thinking I would hurt others even though they're doing things that are hurting me. I really seek a solution to this weakness. I hope I could get some tips?? Thanks once more for being so generous in sharing your personal experiences, thereby giving one an idea into this phenomenon. Love❤❤
So like, full disclosure, I'm a plurality/system, so this video is just so FUNNY, in a way. But I also find it a little comforting that when you revealed which archetypes were fronting, it aligned exactly with the related headmates that were copiloting here 😂 really fun bit of synchonicity there.
😂😂😂 I’ve done this for years I thought I was nuts! I had no idea it was even a thing! I have specific outfits, hair styles all kinds of stuff. If I sit with myself ahead of a meeting or event etc, I can often have one of them come forward in my mind and let me know I will need their energy that day. I’m a Sociologist, so I always thought it was some kind of performance management thing mixed in with intuition. Thankyou so much as always for your wonderful insight! I really appreciate your videos 🙏
@@IvyTheOccultist I have some information to share to fill in some possible blanks, but I'm not comfortable sharing them in open platform. I've been wanting to reach out for months, but wasn't sure how to go about it, but here I am, I guess.
I did a LOT of graduate study in Jungian thought. Your book choices are solid. if I were new to Jung and not deeply into scholarly works, I’d start with Key Ideas. Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious is . . . whew! A very, very deep dive! The first time I read it, I skimmed it for class. The second time I read it, it took me, maybe six months to get through, with me taking lots and lots of notes. The third time I read it, it was an old friend.
I LOVE this video, voted on this topic and I'm so glad you covered it! Some archetypes I recognize in myself: The Mother. Strengths: similiar energy to the Healer; very nurturing and giving, takes care of her family and loved ones, very empathetic and trust-worthy, finds strength to keep going even when she wants to give up. Weakness: Pours too much energy into other people leaving her own cup empty which quickly leads to burnout, losing sense of her individuality because she get's lost in the mother-role and lives for others. The Siren. Strengths: Flirty, confident, seductive, knows how to get what she wants. Weakness: Can be manipulative; might hurt herself in an attempt to take power over a situation as she often acts this way because of past trauma/abuse from relationships or even se*ual violence.
Oof, those are some hard hitters. I'm glad you can identify these archetypes within yourself! Naming them is the first step towards integration and it sounds like you are well on your way. ❤️
The greatest spiritual youtuber ever. the way u explain things fits in my brain perfectly and clearly. Also the way you give the information like makes sure the person watching will understand everything and every word. Ive watched many witch youtubers over the years and you r the best and you give credit so your very trusted. Also your a chaos witch so honestly i feel anyone can benefit from watching. Truly a gift from the universe. ty.
I definitely have archetype specific outfits and accessories that I didn't realize until just now! How fascinating! Thank you for sharing yourselves with us!
This led me to discover that I already practice with this framework as a hobby, in LARPing. How all different paths lead to the same destination... (And now I know how to delve into it further. Love the way you presented this and thank you for giving this information!)
Having watched the Kelly-Ann Maddox video earlier and now having seen yours, you are both similar yet very different in the some of the archetypes you both have. The way of presenting the Jungian theories (saying the same thing a different way helps people..like me.. to understand the concepts better -- thank you for the explinations😊) both of you also utilize it similar but different at the same time..Thank you for sharing some emotional moments to explain your archetypeshope this made sense 🙂
Such a great video!! I hardly realized I was already doing this by wearing my same Magician tarot necklace every time I do a ritual to evoke his energy. Thank you for the Jung recommendations too!!
Omg, I’m so glad that you did this video. And named these Archietypes, I’ve had a very similar type of childhood and suffered with depression my whole life and use witchcraft has helped me greatly manage this and with phyc help too. I just never had a real name for my architypes. I just pulled this energy forward and worked with it. It’s interesting that you too have specific jewelry for your architypes too, I have different sets for mine. And only wear them when I need to call upon them. Wow, I am so shocked how much we are alike. I may be older, but you are so much more versed in the craft than I have ever been. You have taught me so much, Thank You So very much for Sharing Your Knowledge with us. Blessed Be To You
Wow-I love this video - truly open a door I had not thought of. This is truly new to me and now I understand a lot of things. I can really identify with several of these archetypes- they have certainly been there and now I can put the picture of myself together, kind of like a puzzle. This new year I will dedicate myself to identifying my archetypes and do my introspection on myself. Thank you for bringing this up to the surface for me. Driver seat and copilots get ready lol. It’s going to be work but fun too! 😊
Wow I love this video. I have never thought to categorize my personal archetypes until now. I definitely have a “dreamer” archetype in me… very Pisces energy head in the clouds type lol. Thanks for giving me things to ponder Ivy ❤
Your videos always have such great information and makes me think about things in a way that I haven’t before. It would be awesome to see an in-depth tarot video. Would love to see your insight on tarot.
I love archetypal work!! It's also so cool to look at archetypes, or parts, in relation to your birth chart. Some of my archetypes have a direct link to a certain planet, and their strengths and shadows are so easily discernable when looking at how and where that planet is placed in my chart. 💜
Loved this video! It's so interesting to me to see how others use Archetypes in their practice! I use a TONNNN of animal archetypes in my workings and I've seen such great results with it!
Animal archetypes are the best!!! I need to do a part 2 of this video where I talk about external archetypes rather than internal. So glad you liked the video! 🖤🖤
Thank you so much for sharing so deeply with us 🖤 Fascinating video that I really strongly resonated with on many levels. Jung has been one of the underpinning foundations of my entire spiritual seeking & witchcraft practice since the very start. I also refer to the “who is driving my bus” aspects of the work, especially when doing personal shadow work. Your authenticity is truly appreciated Ivy
Love this video, it made me quite emotional at some points. Thank you for sharing a deeper insight into your wonderful mind. As someone who's had IFS therapy I'm quite well connected to the 'parts' model but you've definitely inspired me to do some work with the parts that aren't related to trauma and are more nature based. Ordered the Essentials of Jung book too!
Ah, fantastic!! I'm excited to hear your thoughts when you get around to reading that book. I'm so glad this video gave you some inspiration. The idea of IFS therapy is really neat and it's fun to mix and match more modern perspectives on archetypes! ❤️
I definitely identified with a lot of those archetypes! I LOVED this video. Being neuro-spicy and also just who I am, I love to be the over-sharer, an open book, relate personally… and I loved hearing personal references to YOU because that’s how I am with others, and how I would be should I create content some day. I truly enjoyed this! 🤘🏻💜
28:15 I totally agree with lucid dreaming/dream work and grounding and that they NEED to be paired together. I got obsessed with dream work for a couple weeks (barely grounded ever) and for MONTHS after I had bad anxiety, derealization/depersonalization, and bad grasp on reality. Scary af
Excellent Ivy! One of one of my favorite Kelly-Ann's was "Dizzy McWooWoo" her child that kept her from her adult responsibilities and only wanted to "play". Thanks for reminding me of that. I love how she named it - made me laugh! You are such a good teacher and always interesting to listen to. Kudos on your work.
I guessed right but was doubting the sensory enthusiast a bit. It was the best fit beside the others though. Also, Achiever archetypes unite!! Thank you for sharing your personal archetypes. I know that's not easy. And thank you for the good info for using our own archetypes. I love how much your videos make me think.
The fighter, the romantic & the prophet are the ones I embrace constantly. I must admit though, I have quite a bit of mad scientist too lol. I love the way you broke down every detail on these archetypes it sheds light on these that most folks aren't even aware of. 🤘🍎🐍
I’m completely shocked! I’ve been doing this since I was a kid (Trauma Gang lol)! I’ve been wanting to incorporate my people into my craft more. I’m so glad you made this video!
My Barbarian (Fighter + Inner Child + some Shadow) is also a she! I attribute my archetypes to DnD/TTRPG characters. I won't say their names here, but along with the Barbarian, I've also got Cunning Thief, the Sunshine Witch, the Wild Sorceress, the Angry Druid, the Watcher of Worlds, and the Failed Hero. Yes, I know these titles are esoteric. I can elaborate if anyone is interested. It's good to know you better, Ivy. Dang, I'm only 1/3 on the game results. I was guessing Healer, Prophet, & Achiever.
I really enjoyed this video and it has been really interesting. Loved it you explained things well. In the future could u hold the books up for like thirty seconds towards the camera so that we can screen shot that? Keep doing you I have really enjoyed your channel so far❤
I’ve been doing internal family systems therapy… and ugh yes the inner teenager was the first to show and then the inner child. But as soon as I found a part so many more kept coming out. Also, I too had some of the same ones as Kelly Ann Maddox, I’m excited to hear about yours haha. :) also I have he / she / they parts too!
Commenting as I watch - this is too good, Ivy! I LOVED hearing you mention the inner teenager because OMG, yes, we need to discuss it more! One of the most difficult, painful, emotionally devastating tarot reads I've ever done for myself was the first time I asked to speak with my inner teenager. She took the floor, as she always did, just desperate to be heard. Only this time, she actually was heard. I wonder, when exactly, did she decide she'd rather just be quiet? We're still figuring that out, but we're working on it, we're finding a voice filled with confidence again. We ABSOLUTELY share the Mad Scientist archetype...the arrogance/ignorance/rude thing, phew. I also refer to my mad scientist as a "he" hahaha. Very much seems to correlate to my natal Mercury placement (Aqua), a very prominent planet in my chart. I like pulling from the Mad Scientist & the Artist at the same time, to really get that creative genius energy flowing. I deeply relate to coming out of the womb having an existential crisis, I was born like half disconnected. I used to concern my mother with the things I asked as a toddler...lol. This was a fantastic video, thanks so much for sharing with us! There were so many points where I was like YES! I relate! Not to mention the wealth of insight you've shared, I am definitely inspired to work more with archetypes in my practice! You've given me much to ponder!
I am so glad you enjoyed this video!! Working with the inner teenager can be really tough... I personally think it's even harder than working with the inner child but that's just me! I love that we also share the mad scientist archetype 😂😂❤️
OMG I’m so glad I voted for this topic and it won!!! BTW, I love your dark academia outfit for this video. It goes along with the Achiever archetype! Thank you for sharing your personal archetypes! It made this video so much easier to understand! Now that I know what shadow work is and what it involves I am completely into reading the big book that Jung wrote. I think identifying my archetypes will really help me understand myself and use what I’ve got in my magic practice. However, I know some of my archetypes are going to be really ugly due to me growing up with a mom with schizophrenia paranoia disorder, and me dealing with breast cancer in my early 30’s. Although, I think both of those experiences definitely brought out the fighter in me. Especially the breast cancer because I was told I had 18 months to live. That was in 2002. There was a price to pay for that victory though, and I’m currently heavily medicated for several psychiatric disorders. There’s always a price to pay. Thank you for this video! You are truly my occult goddess!
Oh gosh, I am definitely not an occult goddess but I appreciate the compliment!! Hahaha. But on a more serious note, I think it's really fantastic you are ready to dive into your archetypes even if they may seem ugly. What you went through is really tough but it also makes you an incredible survivor! ❤️ (And thank you for the compliment on the outfit too. Lol!)
Jung does gives us more full inner families; Freud the id, ego, superego. I attended integrated family therapy for more than a couple of years and it was fascinating. We see in the hard sciences that nature has parallels between large and small things and beings. (Joseph Campbell's relatively recent books are explications of Jung and good reads.) I worked on my inner family but not in the sense of particular architypes. (In any "family" there are some monsters.)
I was thinking of DID the entire time I filmed this video because I have friends with DID and it's so interesting! What an interesting way to work with different alters! 🥰
Just for fun I’m going to put my 3 guesses before hearing the list. In the drivers seat is the professor or lecturer Co-piloted by a confident goddess and the mother. I love watching your videos. I’ve been practising for a while but was getting frustrated and agitated because I wanted to grow and gain same substance (meat and potatoes) in my witchcraft practise but I didn’t know in which direction I wanted to grow. The minute I became ok with not knowing the next step, you’re pilot popped up and I’m so glade they did because they where just what I was looking for🥰🙏
I thoroughly enjoy Jung's work. There are so many amazing books written by authors pulling from Jung, a book that pops into mind at this moment "Women Who Run With The Wolves", that look at Goddess archetypes and how these archetypes relate to everyday life, so good!
Idk if this is connected, but i just watched kelly ann maddox's video on Drama/Theatre in witchcraft and thought of the idea of dressing as the archetypes aesthetically. Ive been fascinated with archetypes for a while but didnt know how to work with them. So far, i feel like i have an inner mother, inner masculine, maybe a priestess archetype (??), my shadow self (her name is Lilith) and Hathor the egyptian love goddess. I called my masculine side Kale when i was younger and just last year, he fronted and was like "you named me....after a vegetable??! Nah, my name is Kai now" 😂 him fronting is what caused me to be confused about my gender. Great video on the topic! I hope there's more to come 😊
I really appreciate how you have different pronouns for different archetypes. A while ago, I started a journey of gender identity and I realized I had more feminine archetypes then masculine. Even if they were often seen as genderless or the opposite gender. Like The Healer and the fighter for me are both very feminine, but my Hopeless Romantic tends to be more masculine, I also identify with Mars for this archetype, but specifically from the Roman pantheon
Thank you for this wonderful video Ivy! This came just in time for me. Been wanting to do shadow work for a while now. I actually call my archetypes, aspects of myself. But I like the possibilities of actually having an archetype. Lately, I just feel real lost, not exactly whole, if that makes sense? So, again...thanks for this video and all your wonderful work here. ❤
It makes total sense! I find that viewing our psyche as a system - a team of people ready to help us succeed at any given moment - is really heartwarming. It's cozy knowing you have so many archetypes that have your back. Excited for your journey! ❤️
Love this video! I definitely understand your description of them. My inner (bitchy) teenager comes into my driviers seat far too much. Another I would call Parent for me helps with my job with young adults, being a parent and helping others. The one major negative of having the Parent and inner teenager at play at the same time is that the teenager reacts to situations the Parent is in and it can be detremental if the wrong one has the wheel! Thank you for helping me give my multi faceted mind different discriptions!
@@IvyTheOccultist :D YASSS! I mean you can even connect all this with the identities of the Major Arcana. Also I love how you casually recommend a textbook to read. Sheesh Hermoine! 💜🍷
@@IvyTheOccultist OOOHHH! PLEASE look into the anti-hero "Jane" from Doom Patrol. She literally is Carl Jung's work as a "hero". To summarize its a person with multiple personalities whom all interchange with our world to "control" the body in this dimension but inside the mind its all differerent identies whom are adults who are protecting "the child" who's history is literally that of what you would think how a Shadow is formed from childhood expriences. I can't believe i didnt think of this to tell you before!
I feel like some of the tarot cards of the major arcana are archetypes too in a way....and I was just thinking about how I want to embody The Fool in class because I've been too much of a perfectionist in college and have been down on myself for really minor mistakes! I want to embody being a life long learner and enthusiastic and optimistic!
I got 2 of the three; I figured Mad Scientist for sure, Achiever for sure, but the last one I didn't know, I was thinking maybe Healer or Inner Child/Teenager [I was thinking of the healed version, where there's the sense of wonder and excitement about what you're doing]. I've noticed; well, even my sisters have noticed at least one, a few different aspects of myself; my sisters noticed this Orphan child, like an Oliver Twist type character that like the way I say things sometimes, sounds very like "may I please have these crumbs if it wouldn't be too much trouble?", it just sounds like that, and I've also noticed what I call my inner serial killer, that I consider just like this humanoid shape of dripping black tar and it's pretty silent and misanthropic, but it's kind of... idk if other aspects of myself have restrained it or it developed its own code where it doesn't activate unless someone's being an asshole; it would want to murder itself if it hurt someone/something who was just happily existing, not hurting anyone; it also activates on behalf of others - if I see others being treated poorly, so it's got an oddly protective nature to it, but kind of like violently protective, and if you've crossed a line with it, all it will think about is how to make you suffer. I let it run around in fictionland where it can explore the darker themes it wants to in a safe place. I think I also have a more.... adventurous/outgoing aspect that's all about having fun and enjoying things; chatting with folks and trying/exploring new things. I think those are the main ones for me.. I'll have to think more on if I have others. XD I probably have more, but the three big ones I notice the most are the Orphan Child, the Serial Killer, and the.. idk Charismatic Adventurous one. I don't have like a romantic one, other than like... romantic in the sense of like that one narrator from that Christmas Story movie, where I think like "oh I'll do X and then Y impossible thing will happen and it'll be this grand response to X that I did" that's the closest to romantic I get, I'm not very lovey dovey. XD
Hi Ivy! Have you wondered if your prophet archetype is actually a spirit. Alot of lucid dreams and disconnection can indicate a spirit trying to come through to help in some way. Just a thought ❤
What an interesting thought! If it is a spirit, it's definitely one that has been with me since I was a child. It almost feels like nothing-ness and spending too much time in the Prophet always results in a disconnection from the physical realm. What a fun thing to contemplate! ❤️🙏
Is there a difference between this and DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder)? Is it the ease of communication and the lack of amnesiac barrier or dissociation?
Personally, as a plural system, I see it as a matter of perspective and the healthiness of the internal relationships. Lots of people have many different people or parts in their mind, and DID is just the medical label for when there's internal dysfunction between those people or parts.
My guesses for the game before I see the results are the mad scientist, the sensory enthusiast, and the achiever. Not in any particular order tho... I do feel that the sensory enthusiast is somewhere in the backseat tho not the driver Edit: f*ck yeah! I got it right 😸😂
@@IvyTheOccultist my theory was that for the mad scientist bc it's something occult and sciency so I figured they were in there somewhere. For the sensory enthusiast I figured they might be there to help with grounding and keeping you centered while filming. Tbh I don't remember my thought process behind thinking the enthusiast it just felt right lol. Plus with the others it didn't feel right as you started to explain what their aspects were for 😺. I was surprised though when I got them right 😂.
What are your views on these archetypes and their relation to "spirit guides." My brain is drawing way too many connections between internal systems / archetypes and the new age concept that we have spirits specifically for us to help guide us and deal with life's shit. It is hard to tell where the line is between the internal and external spirits/archetypes. Thank you for expanding my mind!
I have one that i call "other mother". She is a perfectionist. She insists on a perfect home and perfect little children. (She gets disappointed a lot 😂😂). She gets mean and has some shadow work to do!
To elaborate, we basically see archetypes as a less stigmatised way of conceptualising having many different parts and/or people in your head, and it's way more common and normal than people give it credit for
As I’m listening to this a second time, I’m wondering if your archetypes are listed in Carl Jung’s book or are they ones that you gave a name? … You just answered my question! I just stopped the video too soon! 😂 How did you come up with your own archetypes?
Oh yes, my archetypes are very modern! They are inspired by Carl Jung but definitely not his traditional archetypes. As far as the process goes to figuring out what your archetypes are... When you are in a group of friends, who do you tend to be? What role do you play? When you are at work, what role do you typically take on compared to your coworkers? Who are you when you're with your family? How do you react under pressure? By assessing yourself in these different scenarios, you can kind of start to see different archetypes you might slip in and out of throughout your day. Try to understand these energies first and THEN give them a name. (Rather than the other way around.) When I first discovered my Mad Scientist archetype, I didn't know what he was called. I just knew I had this intellectual/experimental mad man inside me. Eventually, after figuring out his positive and negative impacts on my life, I was better able to give him the name "mad scientist." I hope that helps!
Wow! I learned so much from this. I have always been extremely aware of all the people that live inside my head and their various roles, but I've never had it framed in an archetypical perspective. I have always thought of balance as the key, but I think spending some time with each one, dressing them, contemplating their gifts and pitfalls will make it easier to switch among them, working with whoever is best suited for the situation, and creating a more successful homeostasis. And the statement about the achiever origin...uffda , a relatable truth felt deep in my core. I am both excited and fearful to work all of this further into my practice. Once again, thank you so much for sharing wisdom and vulnerability.
Timestamps:
00:00 Patron Shout-out
00:42 Intro
01:50 Carl Jung's Archetypes
06:48 Book Recommendations
08:47 Modern Interpretations
12:34 How To Identify Your Archetypes
14:01 Introducing My Archetypes
15:36 The Mad Scientist
18:34 The Inner Child & Inner Teenager
21:16 The Fighter
23:30 The Hopeless Romantic
25:01 The Healer
26:41 The Prophet
28:31 The Sensory Enthusiast
31:02 The Achiever
33:59 Game Results
34:56 How To Use Archetypes in Your Magical Practice
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Thank you Ivy for this insightful and educative video. I can't say I fully grasp how I could immediately put this into use, but I have been wrestling a lot as to how I can develop the self confidence I used to have in my youth to overcome a lot of situations I now fall into where I literally let people get away with certain ways they do act towards me. I have been even thinking how I can use magic to bring some aggressiveness into my life because later years I have suddenly become a Mr too soft and afraid to get things head on thinking I would hurt others even though they're doing things that are hurting me. I really seek a solution to this weakness. I hope I could get some tips?? Thanks once more for being so generous in sharing your personal experiences, thereby giving one an idea into this phenomenon. Love❤❤
So like, full disclosure, I'm a plurality/system, so this video is just so FUNNY, in a way.
But I also find it a little comforting that when you revealed which archetypes were fronting, it aligned exactly with the related headmates that were copiloting here 😂 really fun bit of synchonicity there.
😂😂😂 I’ve done this for years I thought I was nuts! I had no idea it was even a thing! I have specific outfits, hair styles all kinds of stuff. If I sit with myself ahead of a meeting or event etc, I can often have one of them come forward in my mind and let me know I will need their energy that day. I’m a Sociologist, so I always thought it was some kind of performance management thing mixed in with intuition. Thankyou so much as always for your wonderful insight! I really appreciate your videos 🙏
I love that this came natural for you!! ❤️❤️❤️
That you're a sociologist makes perfect sense considering the characteristics of your inner family.
Same!!
@@IvyTheOccultist I have some information to share to fill in some possible blanks, but I'm not comfortable sharing them in open platform. I've been wanting to reach out for months, but wasn't sure how to go about it, but here I am, I guess.
This video is the perfect example of the occult axiom "Khow thyself"
I did a LOT of graduate study in Jungian thought. Your book choices are solid. if I were new to Jung and not deeply into scholarly works, I’d start with Key Ideas. Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious is . . . whew! A very, very deep dive! The first time I read it, I skimmed it for class. The second time I read it, it took me, maybe six months to get through, with me taking lots and lots of notes. The third time I read it, it was an old friend.
I LOVE this video, voted on this topic and I'm so glad you covered it!
Some archetypes I recognize in myself: The Mother. Strengths: similiar energy to the Healer; very nurturing and giving, takes care of her family and loved ones, very empathetic and trust-worthy, finds strength to keep going even when she wants to give up. Weakness: Pours too much energy into other people leaving her own cup empty which quickly leads to burnout, losing sense of her individuality because she get's lost in the mother-role and lives for others.
The Siren. Strengths: Flirty, confident, seductive, knows how to get what she wants. Weakness: Can be manipulative; might hurt herself in an attempt to take power over a situation as she often acts this way because of past trauma/abuse from relationships or even se*ual violence.
Oof, those are some hard hitters. I'm glad you can identify these archetypes within yourself! Naming them is the first step towards integration and it sounds like you are well on your way. ❤️
Kellyann is the best got me into chaos magic, Hel, and all the jungian psychology
The greatest spiritual youtuber ever. the way u explain things fits in my brain perfectly and clearly. Also the way you give the information like makes sure the person watching will understand everything and every word. Ive watched many witch youtubers over the years and you r the best and you give credit so your very trusted. Also your a chaos witch so honestly i feel anyone can benefit from watching. Truly a gift from the universe. ty.
Your comment made my entire day! Thank you so much for this. 🙏🖤
@@IvyTheOccultist of courseee jus plz never stoppp 🙏🙏 ur wisdom is unmatched!!
I definitely have archetype specific outfits and accessories that I didn't realize until just now! How fascinating! Thank you for sharing yourselves with us!
I love that it is something you're already doing! 👏🥳
This led me to discover that I already practice with this framework as a hobby, in LARPing. How all different paths lead to the same destination...
(And now I know how to delve into it further. Love the way you presented this and thank you for giving this information!)
Finally made the move, now am a channel member of the wonderful ivy🙂
Ahh, thank you so much!! Make sure to join the discord server because that is where most of the communication happens! ❤️❤️
I just realized that i do this, just with my own astrological placements... and it works!
Having watched the Kelly-Ann Maddox video earlier and now having seen yours, you are both similar yet very different in the some of the archetypes you both have. The way of presenting the Jungian theories (saying the same thing a different way helps people..like me.. to understand the concepts better -- thank you for the explinations😊) both of you also utilize it similar but different at the same time..Thank you for sharing some emotional moments to explain your archetypeshope this made sense 🙂
Totally makes sense and thank you! I'm so glad the video was helpful! 🥰
everything I needed to hear about archetypes for some time! ha, must've been meant to watch
Thanks for sharing Ivy!And nice reference to Kelly-Ann Maddox…. a living legend! Blessed be 🙏🙌
I love Kelly-ann so much. ❤
Such a great video!! I hardly realized I was already doing this by wearing my same Magician tarot necklace every time I do a ritual to evoke his energy. Thank you for the Jung recommendations too!!
Awesome I have info on the archetypes scheduled to post all week. Going to dive in my the Wild Unknown Archetypes deck for next week ❤
Omg, I’m so glad that you did this video. And named these Archietypes, I’ve had a very similar type of childhood and suffered with depression my whole life and use witchcraft has helped me greatly manage this and with phyc help too. I just never had a real name for my architypes. I just pulled this energy forward and worked with it. It’s interesting that you too have specific jewelry for your architypes too, I have different sets for mine. And only wear them when I need to call upon them. Wow, I am so shocked how much we are alike. I may be older, but you are so much more versed in the craft than I have ever been. You have taught me so much, Thank You So very much for Sharing Your Knowledge with us. Blessed Be To You
Wow-I love this video - truly open a door I had not thought of. This is truly new to me and now I understand a lot of things. I can really identify with several of these archetypes- they have certainly been there and now I can put the picture of myself together, kind of like a puzzle. This new year I will dedicate myself to identifying my archetypes and do my introspection on myself. Thank you for bringing this up to the surface for me. Driver seat and copilots get ready lol. It’s going to be work but fun too! 😊
Super cool! My therapist is having me do parts work therapy and this is basically the same thing! Thanks for sharing 🖤
this was amazing! I'm studying theatre and I alredy have loooots of ideas on how to relate both of these. super helpful, as always!
Ooooh YES! I love when people can be really theatrical with their archetypes. How fun!
I highly recommend reading the book Women Who Run with Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype
Wow I love this video. I have never thought to categorize my personal archetypes until now.
I definitely have a “dreamer” archetype in me… very Pisces energy head in the clouds type lol. Thanks for giving me things to ponder Ivy ❤
I love that dreamy Pisces energy. It can be really powerful for a magical practice! So glad you enjoyed the video ❤️❤️
Your videos always have such great information and makes me think about things in a way that I haven’t before. It would be awesome to see an in-depth tarot video. Would love to see your insight on tarot.
I love archetypal work!! It's also so cool to look at archetypes, or parts, in relation to your birth chart. Some of my archetypes have a direct link to a certain planet, and their strengths and shadows are so easily discernable when looking at how and where that planet is placed in my chart. 💜
Excellent video! Your willingness to share on such a personal level is greatly appreciated 🖤
Thank you so much! 🙏🖤
This has got to be one of my fav vids from you. So good on so many levels 🔥💙💜💙💜💙
Loved this video! It's so interesting to me to see how others use Archetypes in their practice! I use a TONNNN of animal archetypes in my workings and I've seen such great results with it!
Animal archetypes are the best!!! I need to do a part 2 of this video where I talk about external archetypes rather than internal. So glad you liked the video! 🖤🖤
Thank you so much for sharing so deeply with us 🖤
Fascinating video that I really strongly resonated with on many levels. Jung has been one of the underpinning foundations of my entire spiritual seeking & witchcraft practice since the very start.
I also refer to the “who is driving my bus” aspects of the work, especially when doing personal shadow work.
Your authenticity is truly appreciated Ivy
I am so glad you have a passion for Jung too! Thank you for the wonderful comment. 🙏❤️
Love this video, it made me quite emotional at some points. Thank you for sharing a deeper insight into your wonderful mind. As someone who's had IFS therapy I'm quite well connected to the 'parts' model but you've definitely inspired me to do some work with the parts that aren't related to trauma and are more nature based. Ordered the Essentials of Jung book too!
Ah, fantastic!! I'm excited to hear your thoughts when you get around to reading that book. I'm so glad this video gave you some inspiration. The idea of IFS therapy is really neat and it's fun to mix and match more modern perspectives on archetypes! ❤️
Omg I'm so in love with your content. THANK YOU.
I definitely identified with a lot of those archetypes! I LOVED this video. Being neuro-spicy and also just who I am, I love to be the over-sharer, an open book, relate personally… and I loved hearing personal references to YOU because that’s how I am with others, and how I would be should I create content some day. I truly enjoyed this! 🤘🏻💜
28:15 I totally agree with lucid dreaming/dream work and grounding and that they NEED to be paired together. I got obsessed with dream work for a couple weeks (barely grounded ever) and for MONTHS after I had bad anxiety, derealization/depersonalization, and bad grasp on reality. Scary af
Thanks so much for bringing that some attention, talked to a therapist abt that even and now I know that someone else dealt with that before.
Excellent Ivy! One of one of my favorite Kelly-Ann's was "Dizzy McWooWoo" her child that kept her from her adult responsibilities and only wanted to "play". Thanks for reminding me of that. I love how she named it - made me laugh! You are such a good teacher and always interesting to listen to. Kudos on your work.
I guessed right but was doubting the sensory enthusiast a bit. It was the best fit beside the others though.
Also, Achiever archetypes unite!!
Thank you for sharing your personal archetypes. I know that's not easy. And thank you for the good info for using our own archetypes. I love how much your videos make me think.
Amazing! I never thought about those aspects of myself like that but yes … it makes sense - 🙏🏼 thank you
The fighter, the romantic & the prophet are the ones I embrace constantly. I must admit though, I have quite a bit of mad scientist too lol. I love the way you broke down every detail on these archetypes it sheds light on these that most folks aren't even aware of. 🤘🍎🐍
I am so glad you resonated with some of these archetypes!! Thank you! 🙏🖤
That's how we understand the healing process a lot better😅
Thank you❤
I’m completely shocked! I’ve been doing this since I was a kid (Trauma Gang lol)! I’ve been wanting to incorporate my people into my craft more. I’m so glad you made this video!
This has been a fantastic video. Thank you so much! ❤
My Barbarian (Fighter + Inner Child + some Shadow) is also a she! I attribute my archetypes to DnD/TTRPG characters. I won't say their names here, but along with the Barbarian, I've also got Cunning Thief, the Sunshine Witch, the Wild Sorceress, the Angry Druid, the Watcher of Worlds, and the Failed Hero.
Yes, I know these titles are esoteric. I can elaborate if anyone is interested.
It's good to know you better, Ivy.
Dang, I'm only 1/3 on the game results. I was guessing Healer, Prophet, & Achiever.
I LOVE using DnD for inspiration! I have a ton of external Archetypes that I work with that are very much DnD inspired. I love the names of yours!!
I use archetypes, but I refer to them as The Round Table 😊
I really enjoyed this video and it has been really interesting. Loved it you explained things well. In the future could u hold the books up for like thirty seconds towards the camera so that we can screen shot that? Keep doing you I have really enjoyed your channel so far❤
I’ve been doing internal family systems therapy… and ugh yes the inner teenager was the first to show and then the inner child. But as soon as I found a part so many more kept coming out. Also, I too had some of the same ones as Kelly Ann Maddox, I’m excited to hear about yours haha. :) also I have he / she / they parts too!
Ahh I love that you have all sorts of genders in your mind too!! 🙌🖤
Commenting as I watch - this is too good, Ivy!
I LOVED hearing you mention the inner teenager because OMG, yes, we need to discuss it more! One of the most difficult, painful, emotionally devastating tarot reads I've ever done for myself was the first time I asked to speak with my inner teenager. She took the floor, as she always did, just desperate to be heard. Only this time, she actually was heard. I wonder, when exactly, did she decide she'd rather just be quiet? We're still figuring that out, but we're working on it, we're finding a voice filled with confidence again.
We ABSOLUTELY share the Mad Scientist archetype...the arrogance/ignorance/rude thing, phew. I also refer to my mad scientist as a "he" hahaha. Very much seems to correlate to my natal Mercury placement (Aqua), a very prominent planet in my chart. I like pulling from the Mad Scientist & the Artist at the same time, to really get that creative genius energy flowing.
I deeply relate to coming out of the womb having an existential crisis, I was born like half disconnected. I used to concern my mother with the things I asked as a toddler...lol.
This was a fantastic video, thanks so much for sharing with us! There were so many points where I was like YES! I relate! Not to mention the wealth of insight you've shared, I am definitely inspired to work more with archetypes in my practice! You've given me much to ponder!
I am so glad you enjoyed this video!! Working with the inner teenager can be really tough... I personally think it's even harder than working with the inner child but that's just me! I love that we also share the mad scientist archetype 😂😂❤️
OMG I’m so glad I voted for this topic and it won!!! BTW, I love your dark academia outfit for this video. It goes along with the Achiever archetype! Thank you for sharing your personal archetypes! It made this video so much easier to understand! Now that I know what shadow work is and what it involves I am completely into reading the big book that Jung wrote. I think identifying my archetypes will really help me understand myself and use what I’ve got in my magic practice. However, I know some of my archetypes are going to be really ugly due to me growing up with a mom with schizophrenia paranoia disorder, and me dealing with breast cancer in my early 30’s. Although, I think both of those experiences definitely brought out the fighter in me. Especially the breast cancer because I was told I had 18 months to live. That was in 2002. There was a price to pay for that victory though, and I’m currently heavily medicated for several psychiatric disorders. There’s always a price to pay. Thank you for this video! You are truly my occult goddess!
Oh gosh, I am definitely not an occult goddess but I appreciate the compliment!! Hahaha. But on a more serious note, I think it's really fantastic you are ready to dive into your archetypes even if they may seem ugly. What you went through is really tough but it also makes you an incredible survivor! ❤️ (And thank you for the compliment on the outfit too. Lol!)
Jung does gives us more full inner families; Freud the id, ego, superego. I attended integrated family therapy for more than a couple of years and it was fascinating. We see in the hard sciences that nature has parallels between large and small things and beings. (Joseph Campbell's relatively recent books are explications of Jung and good reads.) I worked on my inner family but not in the sense of particular architypes. (In any "family" there are some monsters.)
This hits different as someone with DID lol (i love it)
I was thinking of DID the entire time I filmed this video because I have friends with DID and it's so interesting! What an interesting way to work with different alters! 🥰
Rofl awesome! Yes, the whole time you were listing off archetypes we were mentally pointing at whoever had similarities! It was fun lol xD
@@sygilloux-v2 hahaha!! Now you'll have to ask each other who wants to step up for what spell!! 😂❤️
@@IvyTheOccultist herding cats comes to mind lol
@@sygilloux-v2 😂😂😂
Just for fun I’m going to put my 3 guesses before hearing the list.
In the drivers seat is the professor or lecturer
Co-piloted by a confident goddess and the mother.
I love watching your videos. I’ve been practising for a while but was getting frustrated and agitated because I wanted to grow and gain same substance (meat and potatoes) in my witchcraft practise but I didn’t know in which direction I wanted to grow. The minute I became ok with not knowing the next step, you’re pilot popped up and I’m so glade they did because they where just what I was looking for🥰🙏
I loved this video so much! Thanks for sharing.
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I thoroughly enjoy Jung's work. There are so many amazing books written by authors pulling from Jung, a book that pops into mind at this moment "Women Who Run With The Wolves", that look at Goddess archetypes and how these archetypes relate to everyday life, so good!
I still need to read that book. It has been recommended to me so many times!! 🙌
@@IvyTheOccultist possibility for a future book club? 😁
@@IvyTheOccultist It's a book that you don't want to put down, it's that good. You have to read it. 🥰
@@chelseasoro1008 That is a great idea!! 💯
Idk if this is connected, but i just watched kelly ann maddox's video on Drama/Theatre in witchcraft and thought of the idea of dressing as the archetypes aesthetically. Ive been fascinated with archetypes for a while but didnt know how to work with them. So far, i feel like i have an inner mother, inner masculine, maybe a priestess archetype (??), my shadow self (her name is Lilith) and Hathor the egyptian love goddess. I called my masculine side Kale when i was younger and just last year, he fronted and was like "you named me....after a vegetable??! Nah, my name is Kai now" 😂 him fronting is what caused me to be confused about my gender. Great video on the topic! I hope there's more to come 😊
I really appreciate how you have different pronouns for different archetypes. A while ago, I started a journey of gender identity and I realized I had more feminine archetypes then masculine. Even if they were often seen as genderless or the opposite gender. Like The Healer and the fighter for me are both very feminine, but my Hopeless Romantic tends to be more masculine, I also identify with Mars for this archetype, but specifically from the Roman pantheon
Thank you for this wonderful video Ivy! This came just in time for me. Been wanting to do shadow work for a while now. I actually call my archetypes, aspects of myself. But I like the possibilities of actually having an archetype. Lately, I just feel real lost, not exactly whole, if that makes sense? So, again...thanks for this video and all your wonderful work here. ❤
It makes total sense! I find that viewing our psyche as a system - a team of people ready to help us succeed at any given moment - is really heartwarming. It's cozy knowing you have so many archetypes that have your back. Excited for your journey! ❤️
Love this video! I definitely understand your description of them. My inner (bitchy) teenager comes into my driviers seat far too much. Another I would call Parent for me helps with my job with young adults, being a parent and helping others. The one major negative of having the Parent and inner teenager at play at the same time is that the teenager reacts to situations the Parent is in and it can be detremental if the wrong one has the wheel! Thank you for helping me give my multi faceted mind different discriptions!
ive been waiting...for SO LONG. :)
I FINALLY did it!!!! 😂 There's a part 2 in the works though because I didn't even get to external archetypes...
@@IvyTheOccultist :D YASSS! I mean you can even connect all this with the identities of the Major Arcana. Also I love how you casually recommend a textbook to read. Sheesh Hermoine! 💜🍷
@@balBROni HAHAHA I can't leave the people empty handed!! 😂🖤
@@IvyTheOccultist OOOHHH! PLEASE look into the anti-hero "Jane" from Doom Patrol. She literally is Carl Jung's work as a "hero". To summarize its a person with multiple personalities whom all interchange with our world to "control" the body in this dimension but inside the mind its all differerent identies whom are adults who are protecting "the child" who's history is literally that of what you would think how a Shadow is formed from childhood expriences. I can't believe i didnt think of this to tell you before!
@@balBROni oh hell yeah, I definitely will!!
I feel like some of the tarot cards of the major arcana are archetypes too in a way....and I was just thinking about how I want to embody The Fool in class because I've been too much of a perfectionist in college and have been down on myself for really minor mistakes! I want to embody being a life long learner and enthusiastic and optimistic!
Main psychological archetype..... Crazy beeeetch... Jk lol but she is in there for sure!
Love this!
Wonderful video. I have a lazy archetype that comes to the surface a lot 😂
Trickers, Comedic, Destroyer, Rizzler(lmao), Protector, Competitor all my archtypes
Yay, I got all three right, in the right order! (Sorry, achiever archtype is strong).
I got 2 of the three; I figured Mad Scientist for sure, Achiever for sure, but the last one I didn't know, I was thinking maybe Healer or Inner Child/Teenager [I was thinking of the healed version, where there's the sense of wonder and excitement about what you're doing].
I've noticed; well, even my sisters have noticed at least one, a few different aspects of myself; my sisters noticed this Orphan child, like an Oliver Twist type character that like the way I say things sometimes, sounds very like "may I please have these crumbs if it wouldn't be too much trouble?", it just sounds like that, and I've also noticed what I call my inner serial killer, that I consider just like this humanoid shape of dripping black tar and it's pretty silent and misanthropic, but it's kind of... idk if other aspects of myself have restrained it or it developed its own code where it doesn't activate unless someone's being an asshole; it would want to murder itself if it hurt someone/something who was just happily existing, not hurting anyone; it also activates on behalf of others - if I see others being treated poorly, so it's got an oddly protective nature to it, but kind of like violently protective, and if you've crossed a line with it, all it will think about is how to make you suffer. I let it run around in fictionland where it can explore the darker themes it wants to in a safe place. I think I also have a more.... adventurous/outgoing aspect that's all about having fun and enjoying things; chatting with folks and trying/exploring new things. I think those are the main ones for me.. I'll have to think more on if I have others. XD I probably have more, but the three big ones I notice the most are the Orphan Child, the Serial Killer, and the.. idk Charismatic Adventurous one. I don't have like a romantic one, other than like... romantic in the sense of like that one narrator from that Christmas Story movie, where I think like "oh I'll do X and then Y impossible thing will happen and it'll be this grand response to X that I did" that's the closest to romantic I get, I'm not very lovey dovey. XD
What are you thoughts on the overlap of DID and psychological archetype?
Hi Ivy! Have you wondered if your prophet archetype is actually a spirit. Alot of lucid dreams and disconnection can indicate a spirit trying to come through to help in some way. Just a thought ❤
What an interesting thought! If it is a spirit, it's definitely one that has been with me since I was a child. It almost feels like nothing-ness and spending too much time in the Prophet always results in a disconnection from the physical realm. What a fun thing to contemplate! ❤️🙏
Is there a difference between this and DID(Dissociative Identity Disorder)? Is it the ease of communication and the lack of amnesiac barrier or dissociation?
Personally, as a plural system, I see it as a matter of perspective and the healthiness of the internal relationships. Lots of people have many different people or parts in their mind, and DID is just the medical label for when there's internal dysfunction between those people or parts.
Veryinteresting but what do you do with an archetype that you NEVER want in the drivers seat?
I have Trickster archetype, pretty sure ironically separate from my choatic archetype?
My guesses for the game before I see the results are the mad scientist, the sensory enthusiast, and the achiever. Not in any particular order tho... I do feel that the sensory enthusiast is somewhere in the backseat tho not the driver
Edit: f*ck yeah! I got it right 😸😂
Hell yeah that's really impressive you guessed the right ones!! 👏👏 I'm shocked! 😆🖤
@@IvyTheOccultist my theory was that for the mad scientist bc it's something occult and sciency so I figured they were in there somewhere. For the sensory enthusiast I figured they might be there to help with grounding and keeping you centered while filming. Tbh I don't remember my thought process behind thinking the enthusiast it just felt right lol. Plus with the others it didn't feel right as you started to explain what their aspects were for 😺. I was surprised though when I got them right 😂.
What archetype would be an Italian Mobster?
What are your views on these archetypes and their relation to "spirit guides." My brain is drawing way too many connections between internal systems / archetypes and the new age concept that we have spirits specifically for us to help guide us and deal with life's shit. It is hard to tell where the line is between the internal and external spirits/archetypes. Thank you for expanding my mind!
I have one that i call "other mother". She is a perfectionist. She insists on a perfect home and perfect little children. (She gets disappointed a lot 😂😂). She gets mean and has some shadow work to do!
So what's the difference between embodying archetypes and having multiple personalities?
Just perspective, basically
To elaborate, we basically see archetypes as a less stigmatised way of conceptualising having many different parts and/or people in your head, and it's way more common and normal than people give it credit for
As I’m listening to this a second time, I’m wondering if your archetypes are listed in Carl Jung’s book or are they ones that you gave a name? … You just answered my question! I just stopped the video too soon! 😂 How did you come up with your own archetypes?
Oh yes, my archetypes are very modern! They are inspired by Carl Jung but definitely not his traditional archetypes. As far as the process goes to figuring out what your archetypes are... When you are in a group of friends, who do you tend to be? What role do you play? When you are at work, what role do you typically take on compared to your coworkers? Who are you when you're with your family? How do you react under pressure? By assessing yourself in these different scenarios, you can kind of start to see different archetypes you might slip in and out of throughout your day. Try to understand these energies first and THEN give them a name. (Rather than the other way around.) When I first discovered my Mad Scientist archetype, I didn't know what he was called. I just knew I had this intellectual/experimental mad man inside me. Eventually, after figuring out his positive and negative impacts on my life, I was better able to give him the name "mad scientist." I hope that helps!
@@IvyTheOccultist Thank you so much! Your explanation helps considerably!❤️❤️❤️
Wow ! This was an excellent video !
Very smart woman. Can i ask what is your profesion?
Wow! I learned so much from this. I have always been extremely aware of all the people that live inside my head and their various roles, but I've never had it framed in an archetypical perspective. I have always thought of balance as the key, but I think spending some time with each one, dressing them, contemplating their gifts and pitfalls will make it easier to switch among them, working with whoever is best suited for the situation, and creating a more successful homeostasis. And the statement about the achiever origin...uffda , a relatable truth felt deep in my core. I am both excited and fearful to work all of this further into my practice. Once again, thank you so much for sharing wisdom and vulnerability.
I am so excited for you to dive deeper into this! ❤️❤️