you asked how i locked the flywheel when i was commenting on doing the fiesta ecoboost with no timming locking tools. what you did with the screwdriver in this vid is basically what i did. good tip on the water pump teeth, thats something id never have thought to look for as an amateur. you just take it for granted that parts like that would be correct, but just show you eh. another good tip learned. cheers
Not come across that water pump issue - well spotted! Can I ask what brand/where you got your coolant vacuum filler kit from please? Think I need to get one! Thanks
Dont these have the crappy chain for the cams? I've got a 2020 peugeot partner in bits having it's 2nd chain that's failed. Peugeot do a modified top end but its on back order
nice job again baz!!! i use to work for fords and probably 1 in 50 parts we would have the wrong part in the wrong box..sometimes a handed part wrong or sometimes a belt with the wrong number on it-it happens and like you said you checked and found out
Yes mate, ‘crisis averted’ is perfect use of the language. One minor correction if I may (as a naturalised German): it’s ‘sheff-ler’ for the pronunciation of the timing belt manufacturer. No offence meant. All the best from sunny Austria and keep the videos coming.
Had one of thease today it's such an brilliant engine easy access and well thoughout! literally took me around an hour to replace everything including waterpump etc! just WOW
Master at work 💪👌👍 Awesome video 👌 Super 🆒️ engineer 👌 👏 sharpe Eagle eyes 👍 I just wish you're in Ireland so i can benefit from your great workmanship 🙏👌👍💪✌❤☘🙌
What I do with these metal profile gaskets is torque them up, wait 5-10min and retorque. Usually you can get about 1/8 more turn with same torque setting when gasket has settled.
@@markanix Great so it doesn't go away haha. Did one recently in front of a young lad we hired and he watched/helped and did it without locking tools as it hadn't showed up in time for the job so got the tipex out. Well of course the camshaft spun round when putting the belt on ahah. Managed to line it back up and all good but typical when someones watching. Just made sure to tell him not to do what I did always use the tool haha
That definitely wasn't right with that water pump. Never seen a gap like that in 20 years. Just oug of interest, why do you prefer that timing belt and not the gates? All weve ever fitted ate gates at our place!
I've had lots of bad experiences with gates with failed tensioners and guids failing, nothing wrong with gates belt it's just the rubbish they put in the box with it
Yes Gates kits are bad even in OEM package bearings tends to make rustling noise after few years of use. Dayco have the same problem. Had few of renault OEM with the same issue. Ina kits are OK, they have continental belt included as INA don't make belts and INA tensioner bearings and rollers. Water pumps in INA kits are repacked, they don't manufacture pumps- China made possible. Best option will be for any aftermarket belt to choose INA belt and tensioner kit without water pump. Water pump can be from graf, sil, hepu, GMB.
Nearly as bad as when your MOT assistant jumps down off the 4 poster leaving the car door open and I come out from underneath and crack my nugget on the corner of the door.......
just rewatched the part about the waterpump teeth/belt not right and you then fit a gates belt. how did changing the belt fix the problem, cause in my head for the gates belt to fit the pump teeth the teeth/ridges on the belt would have to be thicker/bigger to match the teeth on the pump. if this is the case does that not then make the teeth/ridges of the belt too big for the other pulleys???? confused
There's no confusion to it, the ina pump was wrong but the belt was right it's a full kit as seen as I unbox it. The full kit then got replaced with a gates kit
i would just say that some crank pulley bolts need a lot nm then some i would be worried about all that strain on 1 small tooth better to use a mighty strong pully holder but each to their own
I know you aren't a fan of gates but personally I have not had any problems, although there is a worrying trend of the stuff in the box not being what it used to be, we try to stick with known suppliers and if a problem occurs they will stand behind it.
@@bazmeredith I mean why do you bother timing it up. I work on a lot of common rail engines and in my case the manufacturer says its not required, just wondered what the manufacturer recommends in this case as you didn't really expand on that point.
My mini 1.6d dv6 was a little different, had a problem where even though it was timed up, the camshaft pin was tight but by about a millimetre. wasn’t a tooth out so couldn’t work out why only 1 pin was tight. Also the fuel pump was different, it had a hole rather than a tolerance notch
I heard recently that Gates timing belt kit's etc are not of the quality they used to be? Happy to hear your take on that! Like you i use INA belt kit's 👍
It's the bearings which are essential and Gates sources the bearings from the worst places possible. Belts itself are excellent quality, as they are a rubber manufacturer.
So if the diesel pump needs timing, what exactly is it timed to? The pump pulley is rotating at two thirds crank shaft rpm, no relationship to anything ! 44 tooth cam, 33 diesel pump and 22 on the crank.
Pump is timed so as to harmonize the balance between the pump and camshaft, thus increasing the timing belt life, this is what i was told when i worked for peugeot.
One thing I never like are "advisories" just for the sake of putting something on a form. You are allowed to have "NO advisories" if the car doesn't have any faults.
you asked how i locked the flywheel when i was commenting on doing the fiesta ecoboost with no timming locking tools. what you did with the screwdriver in this vid is basically what i did. good tip on the water pump teeth, thats something id never have thought to look for as an amateur. you just take it for granted that parts like that would be correct, but just show you eh. another good tip learned. cheers
You gotta be having a laugh mate. You do a ecopoop fiesta with no locking tools 😂 come on seriously
Same thing happened with me in regards to a INA timing belt kit where the garage then fitted a Dayco kit...
Wowsers 🤯 good job you noticed that Gap on the belt/water pump teeth 😔 well done mate 👏
Never thought of supporting it from
The cv that’s an awesome tip
This might be a stupid question but why is the water pump always replaced with the cam belt?
Because once the tension is taken off 99% of the time they will leak
Only time i ever used a INA kit the water pump leaked at the shaft within a couple of months.
Id used INA bearings and belts for years
Not come across that water pump issue - well spotted!
Can I ask what brand/where you got your coolant vacuum filler kit from please? Think I need to get one!
Thanks
It's in my linktree in my bio buddy
Thank you!
What do I google to find them pliers? other than "Baz Meredith pliers" of course
😂😂😂 you need to order sudorf them selves buddy
@bazmeredith Thanks pal they do look handy, especially for those pesky wheel nut caps 🤣
Well spotted
I have this engine in my volvo c30 very good engine 👌 👍🏻
Unreal engines
Would you say it's worth pulling the sump pan off and giving it a good clean especially on the higher mileage cars?
Wouldn't have thought so, unless there's oil light flashing
Tell i,m out of touch i didn,t know these engines are in multiple of makes.
Great video Baz and very interesting.
These are in everything buddy
Top job baz 🤙
Dont these have the crappy chain for the cams?
I've got a 2020 peugeot partner in bits having it's 2nd chain that's failed. Peugeot do a modified top end but its on back order
No these are 8v
Your on about the dv5r engine. Why pas went back to 16v I dont know. Nowhere near as reliable as the old dv6/dv5 8v
Excellent video 👍
how many repexpert point have you got baz?
I've got a few 😂😂😂 I don't want to spend them 😂
Why did the Peugeot engine cam have FoMoCo on it? Ford engine in there?
It's the HDI engine which is used by various manufacturers..
Ford,volvo etc
What can you redeem with the points?
Lots of things, Inc tools
@@bazmeredith That's a good deal.
nice job again baz!!! i use to work for fords and probably 1 in 50 parts we would have the wrong part in the wrong box..sometimes a handed part wrong or sometimes a belt with the wrong number on it-it happens and like you said you checked and found out
Yes mate, ‘crisis averted’ is perfect use of the language. One minor correction if I may (as a naturalised German): it’s ‘sheff-ler’ for the pronunciation of the timing belt manufacturer. No offence meant.
All the best from sunny Austria and keep the videos coming.
Had one of thease today it's such an brilliant engine easy access and well thoughout! literally took me around an hour to replace everything including waterpump etc! just WOW
great for showing us the issue with the water pump your honesty is great also love a dry belt and not those VX grandland wet belts
i thought it was just ford that did wet belts. you can learn so much on youtube
So many FoMOCo parts on it. Never knew Ford had any involvement in these engines. Good vid Baz mon!
Master at work 💪👌👍
Awesome video 👌 Super 🆒️ engineer 👌 👏 sharpe Eagle eyes 👍
I just wish you're in Ireland so i can benefit from your great workmanship 🙏👌👍💪✌❤☘🙌
What I do with these metal profile gaskets is torque them up, wait 5-10min and retorque. Usually you can get about 1/8 more turn with same torque setting when gasket has settled.
We have this engine. It’s always driven hard it’s a trooper. in 5 years it’s never let us down and it’s a 14plate.
Love doing these DV6 cam belts, same on majority of Fords too.
Did my first belt on a Focus with same engine. Was bricking it but all went smooth. Quite enjoy timing belts now.
@@ChuckTurtle1 yeah it’s always the first turn of the key moment that still gets me even after 30 odd years in the job 😂
@@markanix Great so it doesn't go away haha. Did one recently in front of a young lad we hired and he watched/helped and did it without locking tools as it hadn't showed up in time for the job so got the tipex out. Well of course the camshaft spun round when putting the belt on ahah. Managed to line it back up and all good but typical when someones watching. Just made sure to tell him not to do what I did always use the tool haha
Done my first one on my mini clubman cooper d. same engine, along with the clutch & dmf. saved a packet in labour. chuffed
Baz as always like watching your blogs ,, fantastic 😊❤
Cheers buddy 🤙
Fancy doing the chain on my evoque
Yes no problem, drop me an email
@@bazmeredith Book it in quick, the engine won't last long.
The later engines are so easier, better injector seals
Dayco belt, I reckon its had one before
That definitely wasn't right with that water pump. Never seen a gap like that in 20 years. Just oug of interest, why do you prefer that timing belt and not the gates? All weve ever fitted ate gates at our place!
I've had lots of bad experiences with gates with failed tensioners and guids failing, nothing wrong with gates belt it's just the rubbish they put in the box with it
Yes Gates kits are bad even in OEM package bearings tends to make rustling noise after few years of use. Dayco have the same problem. Had few of renault OEM with the same issue. Ina kits are OK, they have continental belt included as INA don't make belts and INA tensioner bearings and rollers. Water pumps in INA kits are repacked, they don't manufacture pumps- China made possible. Best option will be for any aftermarket belt to choose INA belt and tensioner kit without water pump. Water pump can be from graf, sil, hepu, GMB.
When you have the ramp legs in the air,how many times have you hit your head?
Lots 😂😂😂
Hazard of the job I suppose.Have done it several times myself 😭
Nearly as bad as when your MOT assistant jumps down off the 4 poster leaving the car door open and I come out from underneath and crack my nugget on the corner of the door.......
Nice save with waterpump a lot of us would not have seen that
I don’t rate INA , had a tensioner shear/snap on me , when comparing it against OEM the thickness of the alloy on the oem twice as thick .
Thanks for the memory .i was a trained peugeot mechanici denmark. moved bsck to canada 12 years ago . I miss all the tu motors 🍺🍺
Where did u get that tensioner tool from Baz ?
Sudorf mate you have to email them
That belt to pump fitting is terrible on that kit, unusual tho and very well spotted
just rewatched the part about the waterpump teeth/belt not right and you then fit a gates belt. how did changing the belt fix the problem, cause in my head for the gates belt to fit the pump teeth the teeth/ridges on the belt would have to be thicker/bigger to match the teeth on the pump. if this is the case does that not then make the teeth/ridges of the belt too big for the other pulleys???? confused
There's no confusion to it, the ina pump was wrong but the belt was right it's a full kit as seen as I unbox it. The full kit then got replaced with a gates kit
i would just say that some crank pulley bolts need a lot nm then some i would be worried about all that strain on 1 small tooth better to use a mighty strong pully holder but each to their own
Legendary DV6
You fully know 🤙
Have a great couple of days at the NEC 👍
I know you aren't a fan of gates but personally I have not had any problems, although there is a worrying trend of the stuff in the box not being what it used to be, we try to stick with known suppliers and if a problem occurs they will stand behind it.
I've had lots of bad experiences with gates, my first one with ina and personally I think it was boxed wrong
Whats your reasoning on timing up the high pressure fuel pump?
In what respects as in the way I do it... I've done hundreds of these over the years and I know by visual look where the pump goes buddy
@@bazmeredith
I mean why do you bother timing it up.
I work on a lot of common rail engines and in my case the manufacturer says its not required, just wondered what the manufacturer recommends in this case as you didn't really expand on that point.
Baz I need that auxiliary belt tensioner tool! 😍😍😍
You need to email sudorf buddy
My mini 1.6d dv6 was a little different, had a problem where even though it was timed up, the camshaft pin was tight but by about a millimetre. wasn’t a tooth out so couldn’t work out why only 1 pin was tight. Also the fuel pump was different, it had a hole rather than a tolerance notch
You got a link for that fan belt tool baz,great content as always
Snap on has them AST5188 it’s there ast range of tools
I heard recently that Gates timing belt kit's etc are not of the quality they used to be? Happy to hear your take on that! Like you i use INA belt kit's 👍
I've had lots of bad experiences with gates, first with ina, I only used gates because I had no other choice
It's the bearings which are essential and Gates sources the bearings from the worst places possible. Belts itself are excellent quality, as they are a rubber manufacturer.
Looks like that belt / tooth missmatch would have worn the belt prematurely!! Well spotted!!
Superb as usual. I found on my Ford that I had to identify whether the teeth and pulley/belt were round or oval teeth. Is this the case with Peugeots?
I’m a diy home mechanic and would not have noticed the teeth out of line 🙈 brilliant spot 👍👍
Thank god someone who knows what they are doing,a lot on UA-cam don’t 😂
So if the diesel pump needs timing, what exactly is it timed to?
The pump pulley is rotating at two thirds crank shaft rpm, no relationship to anything !
44 tooth cam, 33 diesel pump and 22 on the crank.
Pump is timed so as to harmonize the balance between the pump and camshaft, thus increasing the timing belt life, this is what i was told when i worked for peugeot.
@@kisher4029 Looks like it's more to do with vibration given the ratio of the belt pulleys.
One thing I never like are "advisories" just for the sake of putting something on a form. You are allowed to have "NO advisories" if the car doesn't have any faults.