Her Melt and Vape Teams Are Better Than I Thought | Mavuika Post-Release Analysis

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  • @baratacom
    @baratacom 9 днів тому +362

    Hoyoverse: Mavuika's charge attack initiation counts as normal attacks
    Also Hoyoverse: Raiden Shogun's normal attack-looking normal attacks during her buffs don't count as normal attacks, but only for Beidou, the character everyone wanted to play her with

    • @ponderingfox
      @ponderingfox 9 днів тому +62

      I still feel this.

    • @Hayds126
      @Hayds126 9 днів тому +37

      I mean Raiden still triggers Xingqiu and Yelan. In that regard it's still the same as Mavuika. Though still sucks Beidou and Raiden synergy never happened

    • @KategariYami
      @KategariYami 9 днів тому +13

      Maybe coz they didn't want to completely gimp Cyno's release. I really enjoy Cyno Beidou teams, not just for the fact I can use Beidou's Ult Attacks, but also TF Cyno seems to generate a lot of energy for Beidou too

    • @driannos
      @driannos 8 днів тому +43

      It's because of the way it's worded and coded. Raiden's Musou Isshin state has normal attack "motion" but it hits/deals elemental burst damage.
      That's the difference between Beidou and Yelan/Xingqiu since Beidou requires a normal attack damage to hit an opponent. Meanwhile Yelan/Xingqiu only requires the normal attack motion.

    • @BreeDragoness
      @BreeDragoness 8 днів тому +5

      My bf's still mad about that I think

  • @Dext69
    @Dext69 9 днів тому +188

    These post analysis video are so helpfull please don't stop posting these type of videos. It helps becoz there're lot of Mavuika combos for Vape and Melt and you vlarify them which helps. Plus the fact that it's a comparison between videos so u can improve your Mavuika is also a plus point

    • @erinyowkow467
      @erinyowkow467 8 днів тому

      He just regurgitates other peoples stuff. He's a clout chaser.

    • @serenth8310
      @serenth8310 8 днів тому +4

      @@erinyowkow467 Then why are you here watching his videos?

    • @Crimson-Nova
      @Crimson-Nova 5 днів тому +1

      ​@@erinyowkow467 pretty sure he calculates most if not all the math behind all the damage scalings and stuff and other people use those calcs in their vids

  • @watase__
    @watase__ 9 днів тому +93

    holy editors working overtime

  • @Shimeji_e
    @Shimeji_e 9 днів тому +310

    I tried for hours in various teams, with Xilonen, Kazuha, Citlali, Yelan, Furina etc but can't for the life of me get her to do the Akira slide, disappointed.
    ok I didn't know there's a different rotation for Mailed Flower, now I finally hit 1M on her it feels so surreal, thank you mr jef

    • @DoT_TD
      @DoT_TD 9 днів тому

      @@lotannaarinze6581 that's the non mailed flower combo. What I use on mailed is Bennet e>xilonen en1n2>mavuika n1e>Bennet qe>citlali EQ>mavuika burst.
      You can also just Bennet Ew at the start and then don't switch into Bennet after mavuika,Al but that's less Bennet uptime

    • @nk30020
      @nk30020 9 днів тому +2

      What's the rotation?

    • @Shimeji_e
      @Shimeji_e 9 днів тому

      ​@@nk30020 5:24

    • @Shimeji_e
      @Shimeji_e 9 днів тому

      ​@@nk30020 5:24

    • @BlankSama
      @BlankSama 9 днів тому

      @@nk30020 rotation for mailed flower with xilonen and citlali is : start with bennet skill ( once or fill your burst ), then xilonen skill burst, mauvika skill, bennet burst, citlali skill burst (add normal atk for adjustment), then finally start your combos

  • @buechertz
    @buechertz 9 днів тому +188

    Crazy ... this was recorded only yesterday.

    • @wideozludrawz
      @wideozludrawz 9 днів тому +69

      the editors are putting in WORK

    • @pirayv3397
      @pirayv3397 9 днів тому +60

      Socks could never

    • @saviolbnful
      @saviolbnful 9 днів тому +4

      Ludrawz

    • @wideozludrawz
      @wideozludrawz 9 днів тому +12

      @@saviolbnful caught

    • @MrSquishy0
      @MrSquishy0 8 днів тому

      He doesn't have an obsession with stalling like his boyfriend does 😂

  • @Zexxceed
    @Zexxceed 8 днів тому +29

    11:46 Zajef pouting every Mavuika dash cancels almost made me spill my coffee lmao

  • @sirram_e
    @sirram_e 9 днів тому +17

    kinda happy to see this much change from pre relase to post...

  • @Zardo_Zap
    @Zardo_Zap 9 днів тому +66

    thanks for all the information and editors for getting this out so fast ! thanks again ♥︎

  • @stakcdn1
    @stakcdn1 9 днів тому +25

    The navia team bit is super accurate. I just be kinda doin stuff and it all dies lmao

  • @AdamBlade17
    @AdamBlade17 9 днів тому +22

    If you have neither Xilonen nor Citlali, I found that a dual DPS team with Clorinde, Ororon and Chevreuse is actually pretty damn good.

  • @ampersan3
    @ampersan3 9 днів тому +27

    Thanks for the information Zajef, this will really help my non-existent Mavuika (lost to 50/50 like usual kek)

  • @KategariYami
    @KategariYami 9 днів тому +36

    Mavuika is so good, Zajef likes her with YELAN more than Xingqiu. That alone is enough of a reason to get her bahaha

  • @KategariYami
    @KategariYami 9 днів тому +14

    21:24 Clorinde can do enough NAs that Mavuika can barely get her Burst back every rotation

  • @meko1676
    @meko1676 9 днів тому +14

    the way my face changed after he compare chasca to sucrose

  • @sabotagge9155
    @sabotagge9155 8 днів тому +10

    I also hope she is just the new ceiling. Because if you are going to make an Archon a dps it better be one of the best ones or people are not going to pull her. Thinking if I should get C2, but I got R1+Citlali and had Xilonen so she does so much damage already that it feels overkill. And its not like those open new teams or something.

  • @puma21puma21
    @puma21puma21 9 днів тому +29

    Powercrept Arlecchino before her first rerun that's all I know

    • @tristanmanalo6252
      @tristanmanalo6252 8 днів тому +4

      💀💀💀

    • @Juganta2025
      @Juganta2025 8 днів тому +4

      Arlechinno cannot get proper heal from healers, she is hard to use in spiral abyss.

    • @mptyalln
      @mptyalln 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@Juganta2025skill issue

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому +2

      At least she almost had a rerun worth of being good. Imagine how Yoimiya and Hu Tao mains feel about Xiangling powercreeping them on release.

    • @jijidu69
      @jijidu69 7 днів тому +2

      @@Kittyclysm Hu tao is arguable, Xiangling without Catch or Emblem was not touching Hu tao on the game release. And then non of the pyro on field matched her until Lyney. (Her gameplay is still absolute ass at c0)

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 9 днів тому +13

    C6 Kaeya with Instructors is very good but sometimes I mess up the start because of Mavuika`s E

    • @ЗлаяПетрушка
      @ЗлаяПетрушка 8 днів тому +6

      Yeah that's why I figured to start the rotation with a Bennet skill instead. However, the next rotation becomes kinda scuffed since u still have to use mavuika e at the end of your first rotation.

    • @le0t0rr3z
      @le0t0rr3z 8 днів тому

      ​@@ЗлаяПетрушка are there things alive after1 rotation of 5 melts?

    • @ЗлаяПетрушка
      @ЗлаяПетрушка 8 днів тому

      @@le0t0rr3z if there are more waves of enemies, then yes

  • @Tobi_3L
    @Tobi_3L 9 днів тому +10

    04:53 Mailed Flower doesn't reset with every hit or reaction? I have lived deceived

    • @ruxbon
      @ruxbon 3 дні тому

      Mailed Flower's passive indeed triggers with every skill hit or reaction triggered, but not from off field, that's why the buff expires in the usual rotation

  • @wideozludrawz
    @wideozludrawz 9 днів тому +6

    eating so well, ty editors and zajef :)

  • @Shane_A_M
    @Shane_A_M 9 днів тому +7

    16:50 This is truly a sign of the end times. 2025 is truly the WTF year of all time.

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому +2

      Right? That should be Xingqui he's praising

  • @Lwk_
    @Lwk_ 9 днів тому +15

    citlali post release when?

  • @luminous3558
    @luminous3558 9 днів тому +37

    Its really odd how little talk there was about early cons this time around. Both her C1 and C2 are very relevant to talk about as they always are for archons.
    They both fix her core problems but also enhance her capabilities all around and provide a unique dmg mod to her offield support role.
    I think a lot of people slept on C2 Mavuika because they put C0 mavuika in the DPS only box and decided to not look further.

    • @alanparmar2797
      @alanparmar2797 9 днів тому +19

      I just got C1 mavuika and the difference is actually noticeable. Her skill lasts way longer now, with around 95% uptime, making her overworld extremely smooth.
      C2 is a huge power jump for her and my 3 artifact mavuika on R3 mailed flower deals 1.6m like it’s breakfast

    • @CarlosSantos-ge5ei
      @CarlosSantos-ge5ei 9 днів тому +8

      I think most people aren't devaluing C2 strength, however what I have to agree with is how much people talk about C2 Mav being so over the competition in terms of DPS (atleast when talking about early cons DPS) meanwhile she really as you said become incredible as a sub dps support past C1, I think they really did sell her cons as a way to not just increase her dmg output but also what she can provide as an off field support

    • @lucasayabe
      @lucasayabe 9 днів тому +7

      yeah Furina and Raiden C2s is so iconic that is hard to talk about them without assuming early cons, and Mavuika has as busted early cons as them.

    • @CarlosSantos-ge5ei
      @CarlosSantos-ge5ei 9 днів тому

      ​@@alanparmar2797Are you dealing 1.6 M with C1 mavuika ? My best is 1.4 talent 9 , but my citlali is not with cons

    • @LeoRC6
      @LeoRC6 9 днів тому +3

      I agree whit this, Mavuika C1 is really good, specially if you don't have Xilonen and Citlali, also good on a lot of teams for the extra uptime and C2 i just broken af.

  • @frankprovost
    @frankprovost 9 днів тому +12

    half the time i cant get her burst to melt with citlali cause her E takes away the cryo aura

    • @phrsde
      @phrsde 9 днів тому +11

      Skill issue

    • @cyuen93
      @cyuen93 9 днів тому +6

      Try timing citlali burst as mavuika skill hits, i ran into the same issue, melts are inconsistent until I started to pay attention to mavuika skill timing

    • @brunogutierres3569
      @brunogutierres3569 9 днів тому +3

      Try to aa with Citlali right before you swap to mavuika

    • @cat-em3mj
      @cat-em3mj 9 днів тому +2

      when mavuika skill hit burst with citlali then swap to mavuika and burst it's very easy

    • @a200037
      @a200037 9 днів тому +12

      Lots of comments saying you need to try to time her burst with whatever but you just need to not immediately switch from Citlali Burst to Mavuika burst, and wait a fraction of a second instead.
      I like to think about it as playing with my brain off: If you are tryharding trying to play perfect you might switch as soon as possible and not melt, but if you are playing as if it was a Neuvillette team not paying too much attention the time it takes you to swap and then burst should be enough to get your melt.

  • @surreabel
    @surreabel 9 днів тому +32

    Humans are attracted to hope like insects are to fire.

    • @IlConteSky
      @IlConteSky 9 днів тому +7

      Except we call that fire: Hope.

    • @JohnCook-c5b
      @JohnCook-c5b 9 днів тому

      generalizing all 1000+ subspecies of insects to reinforce your perceptions

    • @surreabel
      @surreabel 9 днів тому +11

      @@JohnCook-c5b bro it's a summary of mavuika's voiceline 😂😂😂

    • @zoramarslink5788
      @zoramarslink5788 8 днів тому +5

      It's a very effective mindset for survival.

    • @wolf-c9t
      @wolf-c9t 8 днів тому +5

      Exploration and trials
      Eheh
      Adventuring is right up my alley

  • @MicrocarpaRutaceae
    @MicrocarpaRutaceae 9 днів тому +4

    Diona is kind of fine-ish, but when you have one tanky boss (*cough* the current event with 4 buffs) where you can immediately setup right after, you really notice her slowing down the rotation. I might consider Sucrose better than c6 Diona + Elegy just because of setup.

    • @ruxbon
      @ruxbon 3 дні тому

      Sucrose is always better than Diona, and I've been saying since 5.3 beta that Citlali/Sucrose/Bennett form Mavuika's second best team (if not the best, depending on the content)

    • @MicrocarpaRutaceae
      @MicrocarpaRutaceae 3 дні тому

      @@ruxbon I only used Diona because of c6 + Elegy + an excuse to unbench her after years, but the rotation *really* feels slow and you only get Elegy every other rotation anyway.

  • @lancekot5523
    @lancekot5523 8 днів тому +3

    mavuika in neuvi teams vapes for 60K with her E, and vapes her Q on 250K. She is the best slot for neuvi teams now instead of kazuha

  • @VitorAntas
    @VitorAntas 8 днів тому +6

    While Bennett's Atk buff (& DMG buff as Mavuika is a greatsword character) and Pyro resonance are incredibly powerful, I prefer the consistency of a second Cryo off-fielder, as I've noticed I fumbled my melts despite playing the optimal rotation (likely due to my ping, but I honestly have no idea how).
    I hope we get a Cryo 5* off-field that also provides strong, long lasting application and atk/crit buffs... *cough* Tsaritsa *cough*

    • @le0t0rr3z
      @le0t0rr3z 8 днів тому

      If tsaritsa is fast cryo app I think we would have a resurgence on xiangling teams over mavuikas xD

    • @kianamain-sp
      @kianamain-sp 7 днів тому

      I think Hoyo will sooner release another cryo DPS than a good cryo support. All hope is on Skirk and cryo archon.

    • @VitorAntas
      @VitorAntas 7 днів тому

      @@kianamain-sp I doubt Skirk will be a support, her design screams DPS. Tsaritsa is the one we know the least about, but the Archon reputation means she could be both AND excel at both... Who knows!

  • @eskendir4982
    @eskendir4982 9 днів тому +65

    You know when unit is so broken when zajeff says she might be better than Neuv.

    • @Scythra
      @Scythra 8 днів тому +25

      Only with the right ingredients. Mavuika relies more on Xilonen and/or Citlali than Neuvilette relies on Furina.
      But both are easy to play, and if you know the melt combo's really well with Mavuika, she pulls ahead while being slightly harder to master.

    • @dongarippo7279
      @dongarippo7279 8 днів тому +1

      @@Scythra I only have citlali with her, I got mavuika to C2, I go with Mavuika (official archon), (real archon and fake 4 star) Bennett, Yelan, and Citlali.. I love Yelan, but I also don't the glide attacks as people do here everywhere. I use attacks and all, I also use gladiator set, because I have some great crit and crit damage alongside reed of the beacon sea sword. So yeah, Citlali is a shred and battery, I haven't even built her properly either.. From what I can see on videos here I do better.
      Not sure but it seems the gladiator normal attacks might work on burst and all attacks too, so ok no to 40% crit, but yes to 35% more damage on attacks.. I like the playstyle of hitting stuff so yeah, more than the gliding, why I love Yelan.. Even without Citlali this team would work wonders if replaced with Raiden or something, wonders may be a stretch but good!

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 8 днів тому +1

      Neuvillete isn't even top 3 anymore, neuvillete mains gotta stop glazing, his dps falls short now I don't even use him anymore, why care about comfort when I can one rotate any enemies with melt arlechino/mavuika or vape mualani

    • @julienperez6520
      @julienperez6520 7 днів тому

      @@banjoowo4001 Yeah all 3 of those hit noticeably harder. Neuvillete is still king for those with a skill issue though

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 7 днів тому +1

      @ i would say mavuika is easier since she has interruption to resistance and there is no managing water droplets, sometimes I get knocked out with neuvillete and the droplets just disappear which puts me in an awkward position

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif 9 днів тому +39

    Before watching the video my prediction conclusion.
    Mavuika off field is great
    Mavuika dps is very very great and is prob the second strongest carry in the game
    (After the hype dies down he will admit mavuika is just by far the strongest but he tends to downplay newer units a bit at the start)
    After watching the video.
    Color me surprised cuz i didn’t expect for him to not be certain who is better. I do still think he is gonna change his mind at the end of natlan and saying mavuika is stronger but idk.
    Imo mavuika is strong enough to offset the lil QoL neuv has over mavuika. But i can also see why people would pick neuvilette over her. Mavuika’s strongest 3 - 5 teams are very strong with a gap between them. For neuv his like top 1 - 10 teams aren’t that far from eachother when i play him so depending on ur characters neuv is better but i think thats a stupid conclusion. (Why? Because u will always pull new units ur not stuck with the units u have)

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 9 днів тому +6

      you were almost wrong kekw

    • @izlaylayee
      @izlaylayee 9 днів тому +27

      He actually said Mavuika better than Neuvi at their best case scenario lol

    • @alanparmar2797
      @alanparmar2797 9 днів тому +10

      Although her best teams are marginally better than neuvilette team, I would argue she’s still second to neuvilette. And this is coming from a C2 mavuika c1 neuvilette enjoyer, i play both team extensively and always find myself switching to neuvilette teams for comfort. Neuvi has WAY too many options for teammates and even without furina, I can clear abyss with lvl 20 kachina on his team which is not possible with mavuika.
      The big numbers mavuika produces activates my neurons tho, i wish she was more flexible with her playstyle and teammates. I don’t like setting up whole rotations when im in the overworld, which is never an issue with neuvilette. Just press E and he still deletes overworld. That being said, I’m in love with mavuikas off field dmg, I just wish the 2 sec interval was 1 sec.

    • @brunogutierres3569
      @brunogutierres3569 9 днів тому +5

      ​@@alanparmar2797 Don't know how you can't clear with Kachina, I cleared this abyss on my BF account with C0 Mavuika, Bennett, Rosaria and Chasca, where Chasca only participation was to remove papilla shield and charged shots on the robot.
      But I agree with you, Neuvillette comfort and AoE is unmatched and I probably will always lock on him when facing hard content

    • @trashcant4678
      @trashcant4678 9 днів тому +14

      @@alanparmar2797 How is Neuvillette being able to be played in bad teams that no one cares to use him in, make him better? That’s like saying Ayato is better than Mualani because he is more flexible. At C0 he has no interruption resistance and he is glued to Furina unless you’re ok with gutting his damage to Yoimiya levels.

  • @hacenebouacida4007
    @hacenebouacida4007 9 днів тому +38

    The ultimate pyro dps and the strongest character in the game

    • @dongarippo7279
      @dongarippo7279 8 днів тому +2

      and your forgot, hottest character in the game!

  • @geebeepman
    @geebeepman 8 днів тому

    I've used mavuika in the current abyss as well as the previous one.
    I love my rational and hyperbloom teams in abyss but never have I experience such an "easy mode" abyss run as much as I did now with mavuika, and I'm all for it.

  • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
    @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 9 днів тому +9

    My damage on Vapes is ridiculous. 600K on burst and nearly 200K on CA vapes C1R1. C0 Furina C6 Benny C0 Xilonen.
    Since I use Furina I had 0 issues with the flying chicken

    • @JustSomeGuy009
      @JustSomeGuy009 9 днів тому +1

      Similar experience. I don't have the weapon for her so I use WGS and still maintain a C5 Bennett. I've reached 700-750k burst on her with a mixed artifact set (don't have a good obsidian set yet).

    • @unixtreme
      @unixtreme 9 днів тому +1

      I regularly melt her burst for 1 million but I can't melt most of her CAs 😭

    • @agidokiyt2164
      @agidokiyt2164 9 днів тому +1

      She is my first character that can kill the golden wolflord before its shield phase

    • @あいす-Mizushima
      @あいす-Mizushima 8 днів тому

      I melt in the initial burst 1 million and 200k Charged attack if Melt, I use Zajef combo really hard to use but it's really good for getting melt or vaporize.

  • @claud.8676
    @claud.8676 8 днів тому +3

    Just breeze the abyss reset with Mavuika and Hydro Dragon on both sides, Mav best team and Hyperbloom Neuv on other side.

    • @mohamadhafiymalek8976
      @mohamadhafiymalek8976 8 днів тому

      What units did you use with Neuv for hyperbloom?

    • @claud.8676
      @claud.8676 8 днів тому

      @mohamadhafiymalek8976 furina nahida kuki

  • @se7en-impact
    @se7en-impact 6 днів тому

    19:25 - Chasca lasted 1 patch before being power-crept by a C0 1.0 4* unit

  • @Xotwod-t8k
    @Xotwod-t8k 9 днів тому +18

    now zjeff also believes that she is stronger than neuvie and i believe it...

    • @neo.3
      @neo.3 8 днів тому

      ​@あいす-Mizushimameanwhile my Yoel main ass: uses yoimiya 1st half and mavuika 2nd half EZ

    • @tristanmanalo6252
      @tristanmanalo6252 8 днів тому

      ​@あいす-Mizushima💀💀💀

    • @kianamain-sp
      @kianamain-sp 7 днів тому

      Being stronger than Nevillette isn't that hard. After all, he was always mid

    • @tristanmanalo6252
      @tristanmanalo6252 7 днів тому

      @@kianamain-sp 💀💀💀

    • @Xotwod-t8k
      @Xotwod-t8k 7 днів тому

      ​@@kianamain-sp she is stronger than àrlemid and neuvie is second best

  • @sZejker_
    @sZejker_ 9 днів тому +1

    6:15 Should I still go for em sands even when I'm using Mailed Flower?

  • @francocasanellas5563
    @francocasanellas5563 9 днів тому +12

    Only 2hs to get 5 melts with citlali WOO

    • @wideozludrawz
      @wideozludrawz 9 днів тому +9

      erm actually 78 minutes 💀💀💀

    • @unixtreme
      @unixtreme 9 днів тому +1

      I struggle to get more than 2💀 I don't know if I swap too fast to her or what...

    • @hiimapop7755
      @hiimapop7755 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@unixtremeYou probably do. Just wait a moment after using Citlali's burst to get the timings right.

    • @islowclick
      @islowclick 8 днів тому

      @@unixtremeadd a jump before switching zajef went through this recently

  • @destr0lockk
    @destr0lockk 9 днів тому +33

    Mavuika’s lots of fun, she didn’t disappoint as an archon

  • @JaxDax
    @JaxDax 8 днів тому +3

    Im a bit confused, for citlali's slot is it: Citlali > Yelan > 5 melt Kaeya? Or is it Citlali > 5 melt Kaeya > Yelan?

  • @Mark-xw5yt
    @Mark-xw5yt 8 днів тому +2

    What is wrong with his mailed flower? I wasted time doing this adjusted rotation (in fact, normally I don't e at all when I'm just nuke testing) but saw the EXACT same damage. Come to find out, my mauvika is clearly getting the buff whenever she bursts (as it would, since it triggers on reacts not just skill hits) IG the assumption is that the triggering hit isn't buffed, only those that come after it. But considering that I am getting the same damage when I do his rotation (and I check stats to see if I got the EM buff before bursting), I am fairly certain that it is being buffed either way. What is happening here?

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому

      I can't say for sure, but may be higher ping/slower inputs so your rotation is slow enough the buff goes off regardless.

  • @ZJenuis
    @ZJenuis 8 днів тому +1

    5:34 What am I missing here? How was he able to hit a million using the same team I've been using, with worse stats on his Mavuika?

    • @altorithtyrael
      @altorithtyrael 7 днів тому +1

      I have no idea either. The highest I can get with Mailed Flower is 780k. Even if i get better artifacts it's not going to make up the 30% damage difference...

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому +1

      I can't say for sure, but it could be instructor + ttds Citlali/missing the crystalize shard for cinder city

    • @altorithtyrael
      @altorithtyrael 7 днів тому +1

      ​@ Yeah I thought maybe it was that as well but I'm also running ttds Citlali, instructor Xilonen, and unless I'm understanding cinder city wrong, my Citlali is proccing it with melt. I'm also using Aquila on Bennett & Mailed Flower buff is active.
      Thank you for your suggestion though! I really can't think of anything else
      If I compare stat for stat, Zajef's Mavuika has 200 more attack (pre-buffs), 12 more EM, 8 more CD. I can't imagine that equals 30% damage difference after all the attack buffs, at most 15%
      Feels like I'm missing something obvious

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому +1

      @ You understand - I forgor and was thinking Petra requirements. No way Zajef is running that and Cinder and instructor though.
      I think that's like 3 atk rolls, 1/2 an em roll and 1 CD roll, which I'd guess to be the same value as you do.
      I was thinking Zajef's instructor was on Citlali since the duration is only 8 seconds, but I'm not sure, and as long as that's active when you burst it shouldn't matter.

  • @Pheilen6
    @Pheilen6 9 днів тому +2

    I have 2 accounts, one with Mavuika and the arcons and the second with neuvi and arlechino😊. Mavi been the one of the strongest dps saves my first account now, and able to do the abyss with citlali bennet team and venti 😂 for the dragon was very satisfaying.
    (My accounts are for pulling reason to not reapeat characters :)

    • @islowclick
      @islowclick 8 днів тому

      Same. My first time doing a 36 star abyss in a year thanks to mavuika and citlali. My alt with arle and nevuilette is still not built enough

  • @guillermowilliamsyorkdavis9654
    @guillermowilliamsyorkdavis9654 8 днів тому

    It would be amazing if Lansan ends up being a sub dps, like a 5 star Ororon but with both electrocharge and overload added in order to have a strong mavuika-chevreuse team

  • @TheTitanium70
    @TheTitanium70 8 днів тому +4

    Hey, really great video! Thanks for that.
    As someone who saved for ages to pull Hime... cough.. the Pyro Archon C6 the Natlan focus on Mobility Skills was concerning and that bike was as predictable as it was worrying honestly I'm very pleasantly surprised how good she is. Not just in DMG, that was never a concern, but in overall execution.
    Being free in team building AND switching between Off- and On-Field playstyles is something I always enjoy and something I didn't expect with her Ult requiring Natlan Characters.
    Now if only we had ARTIFACT LOADOUTS!!!!!! HOYO, PLS! Just DO IT!
    Also that bike is so freaking smooth to ride in overworld and infinitely less buggy/clunky than expected it's as you said, at first it seems incredibly immersion breaking and probably is, but the second you get to play it: Brain off! Feel good! xD

  • @flamezforthegamez1056
    @flamezforthegamez1056 8 днів тому +1

    Hey guys. whats the optimal rotation to go with for C6 Kaeya in Mavuika melt? The team is C6 kaeya, Bennett, Xilonen, and Mavuika. I struggle getting Mavuika's burst to melt and her CAs I haven't been able to melt either.

  • @FreakGeSt
    @FreakGeSt 8 днів тому +3

    Make one broken character per main version aka new region is alright, Venti... I mean Zhongli... I mean Kazuha is the 1.x, Raiden the 2.x (or is she), Nahida the 3.x, Neuvillete the 4.x (but think Furina is even more) and now Mavuika in 5.x (but also Xilonen in some extent).

  • @Tabris-G
    @Tabris-G 9 днів тому +38

    Top 1 DPS, also great subdps buffer. Mavuika goat

  • @DatSwif
    @DatSwif 9 днів тому +3

    14:45 wtf that song from Transistor in the most random place imaginable

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 9 днів тому

      That's from Transistor?

    • @DatSwif
      @DatSwif 9 днів тому +1

      @@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Yeah, Paper Boats is the song that is played when the credits roll

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 9 днів тому

      @@DatSwif you know the In Circles one? I was hooked on it for a while (thx Epic for giving the game away). So i tried writing the lyrics down. The song is about drowning a fly. I can't take it serious after discovering this.

    • @DatSwif
      @DatSwif 8 днів тому

      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Yeah, I remember that one, never paid attention to the lyrics though. Could mean anything with how many ambiguous metaphors there are in the other songs, but the thought that it might just be about killing a fly is funny. Anyway, that OST overall is so fire (especially the singing), I'm glad I found a fellow enjoyer!

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 8 днів тому

      @@DatSwif because of it, i got Bastion and later Hades off Epic (it was exclusive). I don't have pyre or Hades 2. Might be forgetting another game.

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok 4 дні тому

    I was really hoping Mavuika to be a great Off-Field Pyro applier instead of (yet another) Pyro Main Dps.
    Looks like Xiangling is still the Queen of off-field pyro.

  • @engokupengu1771
    @engokupengu1771 8 днів тому

    11:00 wait, so yelan is actually better than furina for mavuika teams?

  • @Krosis-i8x
    @Krosis-i8x 9 днів тому +1

    a new team i just recently found out is to replace bennet with furina in xilonen+citlali teams... turns out the total dmg is higher when running with furina compared to bennet and the buffs stay longer

    • @AndresLionheart
      @AndresLionheart 9 днів тому +5

      The problem is the freezes. Since Mavuika uses a Claymore she will shatter instead of melting when hitting a frozen enemy, and if it is a boss the freeze simply wipes both elements off the target.

    • @Krosis-i8x
      @Krosis-i8x 9 днів тому +1

      @@AndresLionheart that's why u use furina healing mode instead... the rotation is Mavuika E > Xilonen E 2NA Q > Furina Q E CA > Citlali E Q > Mavuika Q then combo

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 9 днів тому +11

      @@Krosis-i8x just use sucrose atp bro healing mode furina before c2 is 💔💔💔

    • @AndresLionheart
      @AndresLionheart 8 днів тому

      @あいす-Mizushima You should read other replies before commenting. That's exactly what I told him, and he said he uses Furina in healing mode, which sounds like a bit of a waste.

    • @Krosis-i8x
      @Krosis-i8x 8 днів тому

      @@ISMythix true... however, sucrose role is more of res shredder and dmg boost like xilonen... unlike bennet and furina who's role are buffing and no debuffing... 2 debuffers can also be insane however debuffs duration last much less compared to buffs

  • @DoT_TD
    @DoT_TD 9 днів тому +2

    Is it worth to extend the rotation to 20 seconds for ttds on citlali?
    Are you running instructor on xilonen? On my ping, I'm not able to have her instructor last for the time it takes to get to mavuikas burst.
    On the mailed flower, is it better to bennet e at the start only and then burst after mavuikas e for longer Bennet duration?

    • @Shimeji_e
      @Shimeji_e 9 днів тому +12

      her burst cd is 18s, unless you have zero ping and played frame perfect like a robot or the enemy literally doesn't move at all it's gonna be around 20s anyways

    • @DoT_TD
      @DoT_TD 9 днів тому

      @Shimeji_e if you do zajeffs combo the rotation is exactly 18 seconds.
      If you do 20 second rotations you do mavuikas combo like this:
      3cfd3cfdcf
      and still have 1ish second spare time to pick up crystal xilonen or something

    • @vorpal1174
      @vorpal1174 9 днів тому

      @@DoT_TD 3cfd is the combo zajef was doing when he showed how to get 4 melts

    • @DoT_TD
      @DoT_TD 9 днів тому

      @@vorpal1174 he does 18 seconds rotations. I wanted to ask if it's worth extending to 20seconds for ttds on every rotation

  • @feyandhisstuff9888
    @feyandhisstuff9888 8 днів тому

    also her bis team with citlali is not good against nightsoul boss. i mean she still can break throw its shield but youll need to use your entire rotation for that (its not that bad but her overload team much more smoother for that due to oloron helps). and the next abyss also contains that nightsoul elites 2 waves 12-2 and this boss 12-3 xddgarlic

  • @Ricardo_Rick
    @Ricardo_Rick 9 днів тому +5

    Nice video but i really wish to know about melt teams without Xilonen, you made a team without Citlali but what about non Xilonen melt? i don't mean a F2P one tho, for example, is it better if i replace Xilonen with Kazuha? if so does the rotation change? and what about damage? it it much different?

    • @felipemendes5336
      @felipemendes5336 9 днів тому

      I mean Citlali is harder to replace than Xilonen so it kinda makes sense

    • @Ricardo_Rick
      @Ricardo_Rick 9 днів тому +2

      @@felipemendes5336 true but i really want to know how to play good with a team without Xilonen, because i'm not sure the rotations would be the same

    • @istr4wberry
      @istr4wberry 9 днів тому +7

      Sucrose is better than Kazuha because of the EM buff. The rotation depends on who holds TTDS. But most important is that you don't use Sucrose burst as it'll steal melts.
      This part I am not sure but someone said in reddit that Sucrose is better if Xilonen is not C2.

    • @brunogutierres3569
      @brunogutierres3569 9 днів тому +1

      Nothing changes basically, you can't put anyone after Citlali because ttds + buffs duration, but you can't put before Bennett because VV/Petra has only 8 secs. Damage wise is a little bit because you will miss like 30-40 fighting spirit, but it's not that much. In my tests, Sucrose has been better then Kazuha because the EM buff is a too big improvement to melt, even with mailed flower and EM sands

    • @Ricardo_Rick
      @Ricardo_Rick 9 днів тому +1

      @@brunogutierres3569 so let me see if i got it right: the rotation would be: Start with Mavuika's E, change to bennet and burst, change to sucrose's E once (or was it twice?), change to Citlali's E and Burst, change to Mavuika's Burst? that's it?

  • @LizardKingRequiem
    @LizardKingRequiem 7 днів тому

    The worst thing is how they made citlali feel like a necessary half of the archon

  • @Aarkwrite
    @Aarkwrite 2 дні тому

    I managed to snipe mavuika with minutes left on her banner. I had 10 left to try my luck on Citlali’s banner but alas she slipped away. Next time Citlali

  • @former_dough
    @former_dough 8 днів тому

    yo WHY is she looking at me like that

  • @rex11productions7
    @rex11productions7 6 днів тому

    So should I use an EM Sands when I have Wolfs Gravestone on Mavuika?

  • @NahualUlloa
    @NahualUlloa 9 днів тому +10

    This video after all the doomposting about her feels so good. lol

  • @simonbago
    @simonbago 9 днів тому +1

    what about her as subdps for mualani?

  • @Mani-tx9zp
    @Mani-tx9zp 7 днів тому

    Can someone tell me y
    Mavuika+citlali+furina+bennet is not recommended
    Or same but replace mav with chasca

  • @Gigga9
    @Gigga9 8 днів тому

    how is running c3 Furina instead of like a C0-C1 Citlali on her best team? (Bennett,Xilonen,Furina)

  • @mohamadhafiymalek8976
    @mohamadhafiymalek8976 8 днів тому

    Question, on the BMX team with Furina, how would you relaibly apply pyro after the first rotation for Xilonen to crystalize since furina would be constantly apply hydrio even after the rotation is over. Any tips would be appreciated.

  • @wowz98
    @wowz98 8 днів тому

    Why in the Mav Benn Xilo Citlali team does Bennett go first before Xilo? Is it to gaurantee there is Pyro to get the Crystalize?

    • @individualmanwithuniquedna3873
      @individualmanwithuniquedna3873 8 днів тому

      I think his xilonen is on cinder and citlali is on instructor set. That's why Bennett went first, to activate cinder set affect

    • @wowz98
      @wowz98 8 днів тому

      @@individualmanwithuniquedna3873I thought so but Mavuika E also applies Pyro for Xilonen to crystallize. I could be missing something though. Oh well samall optimization

  • @yooman6339
    @yooman6339 7 днів тому

    I want to play c6 kaeya. Should I get mavuika or arlecchino

  • @bifesans6625
    @bifesans6625 8 днів тому

    Which is better? A BMX-Furina team or a BMX-Cryo with a copium cryo like Kaeya?

  • @Dan_17
    @Dan_17 9 днів тому +1

    Pulling Citlali on rerun bcs I'm trying for C2 Mavuika, only at C1 rn. So I tried out Mav with C6 Diona on instructors set and hit 2.2 mil on Scara boss ☠️ (C2R1 Xilonen and C6 Benny as well 🙂‍↕️)

    • @anaisduh
      @anaisduh 9 днів тому +12

      "Citlali on rerun"
      I like your optimism on cryo reruns

    • @Dan_17
      @Dan_17 9 днів тому +4

      @anaisduh ur right but let me cope 🗣 cryopium so strong I believe citlali will have a rerun before nod krai finishes 😼

    • @mc9474
      @mc9474 9 днів тому +6

      Yeah good luck getting a rerun. Charlotte’s first banner was November 8, 2023 and she hasn’t been seen since. And that’s a 4 star! Let that sink in. I pulled on Furina’s banner to pity and didn’t get a single copy of Charlotte.

    • @meikkuikamuzu5869
      @meikkuikamuzu5869 7 днів тому +1

      @@anaisduhI think it’s just cuz hoyo avoids re running poor selling characters, usually cryos sell bad but Citlali is an exception to that, she’s actually good and not constellation-locked lol

  • @FalrinSol
    @FalrinSol 9 днів тому

    I have signature weapon and my mavuika has almost the same stats as yours in the 4:08. Is it possible to make it better? Or thats peak build for mavuika citlali bennet xilonen?
    Also, how did the "weak" combo ended up dealing more dmg than the 4 melts set up in the 8:00 and 8:30?

    • @yue_river
      @yue_river 9 днів тому +1

      the only thing you can do is try to get more crit dmg and em substats

    • @georgezhang1573
      @georgezhang1573 9 днів тому

      I think he missed both crits on the final hits in the 4 melt one, they only did 10k damage instead of 40-50k like they should be when melted

  • @reece5634
    @reece5634 8 днів тому

    Mavuika, I think, is now my strongest and I don’t even have citlali nor xilo

  • @christianalfieri6705
    @christianalfieri6705 9 днів тому

    I still struggle, at times, to melt properly her burst. I go Mavuika skill > bennett skill > Xilo Skill - 2 AA - burst > Bennett skill - burst > Citlali skill - burst > Mavuika Burst.
    I know that I have to wait for a split second before bursting with Mauvika, and still, I don't apply cryo sometimes. There is a visual indicator to understand precisely when to Burst??? Because I usually watch under the boss health bar, and still I struggle. PLZ help me

  • @mr.cat.6284
    @mr.cat.6284 8 днів тому

    Couldn't you use sac furina and be able to do 18 second rotations?

  • @SeeNyuOG
    @SeeNyuOG 9 днів тому +1

    6:48 he actuall dealt less damage with 2 melts than with 4 melts. Was that because of unlucky crits?

  • @gamingtemplar9893
    @gamingtemplar9893 6 днів тому

    What a surprise.

  • @lucasayabe
    @lucasayabe 9 днів тому +2

    Ken Ruroni is a very hardcore Ganyu main and has a gameplay video with a 5 consistent melt combo using Ganyu: ua-cam.com/video/jOhWwMb53C0/v-deo.html

  • @caiojacques8436
    @caiojacques8436 8 днів тому

    Can serpent spine work if I don’t have Citlali?

  • @rexdaemonicus
    @rexdaemonicus 8 днів тому +1

    Why do you hate Yelan?

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому

      He prefers Xingqui. Him saying he's a big hater is probably overplaying the sentiment to be funny.

  • @banditdoggo
    @banditdoggo 8 днів тому

    We need a character that can use 2 weapons. Like childe should use spear and bow weapons

  • @ech_syn
    @ech_syn 8 днів тому

    Can we have one for citlali s teams and combos?

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 8 днів тому

    If you don't have Xilonen,
    Is Sucrose better than Kachina?
    Cause FS is better with Kachina

    • @nonamepasserbya6658
      @nonamepasserbya6658 8 днів тому

      Only Kazuha is better. Sucrose can't offset enough even if Xilo was running Petra

    • @vorpal1174
      @vorpal1174 7 днів тому

      ​@@nonamepasserbya6658sucrose is by default better than kazuha for mavuika

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому

      @@vorpal1174 Maybe this is a niche situation, but I feel like it's common to have Citlali w/TTDS on Mav teams already. If that's the case, isn't Sucrose just going to be worse than Kazuha since you can't stack TTDS? I feel like that should be the case, but Zajef even suggested Sucrose as a replacement for Benny with Citlali still in the team so I'm likely missing something

  • @gericjohnm.olivar9563
    @gericjohnm.olivar9563 9 днів тому +5

    i guess playing her with yelan/xilo/benny is my favorite so far.
    (wishing for a citlali with 20 pity copium)

    • @N1CKczemN1CK
      @N1CKczemN1CK 9 днів тому

      Same,going to try get Citlali til last day😢

  • @lynxeau4428
    @lynxeau4428 9 днів тому

    How does she do for Burgeon? Like I know she's not meant for it but how good is it relative to thoma burgeon?

  • @shiine3766
    @shiine3766 8 днів тому

    what should i put on xilonen assuming citlali is using cinder city in a BMX+C team? or should i keep cinder on xilonen and farm ToM?

    • @yunexxe
      @yunexxe 7 днів тому

      Xilonen can use petra set if you don't mind picking up crystallized shards

    • @shiine3766
      @shiine3766 7 днів тому

      @yunexxe anything than petra? instructor is pretty obvious but 4 star eh dont want to.

  • @AdacherTheCabbageEater
    @AdacherTheCabbageEater 9 днів тому

    Should I use Rosaria, Kaeya (not C6) or Xingqiu with her? I have Bennett and Xilonen

  • @kit2780
    @kit2780 8 днів тому

    Stupid question. Do the dash cancels have to connect on the enemy?

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому

      It's just for the extra damage. If you don't care about that small bonus, then no.

  • @Senorgato029
    @Senorgato029 6 днів тому

    I still feel like without xilonen and/or Citlali she kinda tied to ororon. Sure she is broken in optimal teams but it feels like not having those she is just strong and not extremely strong. Genuinely might still just pull for arle with more wishes and better four stars

  • @ayacu578
    @ayacu578 9 днів тому

    What if I have c6 Kaeya?
    Is it better than Sucrose in a Bennet Citlali Mav team?

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому

      Pretty sure the main point of C6 Kaeya is to get 5 melts, which you're already doing with Citlali. Any buffer would probably be an improvement over him if you're already running citlali.

  • @mutant4eG
    @mutant4eG 9 днів тому

    I was trying C2 Kaeya Team doing the Mav E, Ben Q-E, Xil E combo and then Kaeya Q-E and I was literally unable to apply cryo aura. Was it me being too fast with Bennett E with it being too much of Pyro units or the whole rotation is cooked?
    I tried to forgo Bennett E with Rosaria team and it works, but being restricted to Circle impact with her is very uncomfortable.

  • @anaisduh
    @anaisduh 9 днів тому +9

    NATLAN NO TAMENI 🔥

  • @dafuqgusdafrey60
    @dafuqgusdafrey60 9 днів тому +2

    play Mavuika with Xilonen alone and i knew immediately "oh she better than Arlec"
    she can spam burst easily too, without bennette and it around 200k no reaction
    and can still dish out almost the same amount of dps as Arlec during her 7sec speedwagon
    she's a really good dps and sup dps

  • @squallleonhart1463
    @squallleonhart1463 9 днів тому

    How is the rotation with chasca cit?

  • @jonnevitu4979
    @jonnevitu4979 8 днів тому

    !! Keep in mind !!
    Mavuika having faster normal atks means that you should use them when you are trying to break that cringe ass natlan shield from enemies and from that boss.

  • @gil1934
    @gil1934 8 днів тому

    15:03 why did he say "gap" like "gyatt" ICANT 😭

  • @shakibrblx9487
    @shakibrblx9487 9 днів тому

    I use tidal shadow on mavuika in mavuika citlali xilonen bennett team
    is it good or bad?

    • @BobDaisuki
      @BobDaisuki 8 днів тому

      It's worse than Mailed Flower due to how much atk mavuika is already getting in the team(especially if citlali is on tdds), but otherwise it's one of her best f2p options still.

    • @shakibrblx9487
      @shakibrblx9487 8 днів тому

      @BobDaisuki is too much attack bad or smth?
      I dont have mailed flower cuz I have been playing for only 1 month so I didnt do the event

    • @BobDaisuki
      @BobDaisuki 8 днів тому

      ​@@shakibrblx9487 Not...necessarily. The thing is in that Mavuika team you already have atk buffs from Mavuika A1, Bennett burst buff, and Citlali if she's using TDDS. You have plenty already and Tidal Shadow only offering more atk% just further dilutes that pool. It's still her second best f2p weapon because Mavuika is an atk-scaler but I really hope you're using an EM main stat sands.

  • @linkk161
    @linkk161 9 днів тому +32

    Goodbye Neuvillette, Mavuika is the new dps goat.

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 9 днів тому +17

      especially that she can also be played as sub dps in so many teams

    • @あいす-Mizushima
      @あいす-Mizushima 9 днів тому +11

      Zajeff already said that Mavuika is better than Neuvillette

    • @Tabris-G
      @Tabris-G 9 днів тому +9

      My neuvi c1 cannot beat my tidal shadow mavuika c0 😢

    • @AdacherTheCabbageEater
      @AdacherTheCabbageEater 9 днів тому +8

      ​@@Tabris-Gok that's cap

    • @あいす-Mizushima
      @あいす-Mizushima 8 днів тому +9

      I have C1 Neuvillette and Mavuika C0 lmao I already saw the big difference between the two. Not good looking for Neuvillette In terms of DMG...
      After I learn the combo from Zajef my melt more consistent now during my charged attack.

  • @Just_Anup
    @Just_Anup 8 днів тому +1

    Pyro Neuvillette would have been so cool for mavuika, that stooopid bike with no Weight annoys me

    • @Kittyclysm
      @Kittyclysm 7 днів тому +1

      I personally like the bike, and I feel like it makes way more sense than the random giant robot in Sumeru, which not only didn't fit the place but the manufacturing of which also somehow didn't change the way the nation's scientific achievements ran on fumes despite having created the internet and having an entire branch of the government dedicated to (allegedly) developing technology.
      So little about the worldbuilding of Genshin stands up to hypercriticism, but people will crow about anything an influencer tells them to. Zajeff not mentioning his specific outliers for "power creep" are only archons is going to light another fire, because the masses only exist to get excited over what they're told to.

  • @isqbueno
    @isqbueno 9 днів тому

    can someone help me? idk why but I have r2 mailed flower and idk if it's still good since it's low refinement. should I use other weapon instead? I have wolfs gravestone, blackcliff and I can get r5 tidal shadow, those were some other options I was considering

  • @Rachitdubey
    @Rachitdubey 8 днів тому

    I've tested both and Wolfs gravestone does more damage than Serpent spinr

  • @909090438
    @909090438 8 днів тому

    i use 180 cv Mavuika, weapon Event melusine sword, with c0 ororon, c6 bennet and c6 chevreuse this team destroying all abyss in 2-3 rotations, i hate reactions, no need to timing just deal brbrbr, in100 times more comfortable any reaction team

  • @thantekno
    @thantekno 9 днів тому +15

    The Chasca fiasco will not be repeated I'm certain. Thank you editors.

    • @Ricardo_Rick
      @Ricardo_Rick 9 днів тому +3

      the...what?

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 9 днів тому +6

      Chiasco

    • @JaxDax
      @JaxDax 8 днів тому +2

      What happened with chasca?

    • @aryune
      @aryune 8 днів тому

      What Chasca fiasco?

    • @jijidu69
      @jijidu69 7 днів тому

      @@aryune Her post release was released after her banner

  • @NoneofImportance9080
    @NoneofImportance9080 9 днів тому +2

    Honestly, Furina with Key gives me more than enough EM to use an ATK sands on her. Don’t underestimate that ugly sword on Furina, her best support option (If IF you meet the ER req).

    • @ffgj5urfh11
      @ffgj5urfh11 9 днів тому

      How much hp does ur furina have ?

    • @aungmyat6783
      @aungmyat6783 8 днів тому +1

      I know but my er isn't enough, I thought switching to pipe sword or fav sword.

    • @NoneofImportance9080
      @NoneofImportance9080 8 днів тому

      @@ffgj5urfh11HP/HP/ Crit a little bit above 44k

    • @NoneofImportance9080
      @NoneofImportance9080 7 днів тому

      @@ffgj5urfh11She has 48k