Cane Masters - Circle of Masters 10-16-2015
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2015
- Grandmasters Mark Shuey, Sr. and Thomas Forman demonstrate the use of a Cane for Self-Defense at the International Circle of Masters in Beachwood, Ohio, on 10/16/2015.
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I am an80 year old retired coast guard officer. I have bilateral hip replacements and a spine fusion at l5 and my sacrum. I was going to go out and buy another pistol until I saw this video. I use a decorative foldable metal cane so I can walk. I will purchase a wood cane now and not feel so vulnerable out in the world anymore.
A pistol is also handy. Take both.
Get both.
Another pistol? Why would you feel vulnerable if you already have one?
. 😂❤
I am a 73 year old Tae Kwon Do first degree BlackBelt, who, for various reasons, has become somewhat inactive in Art. Since leaving the school from which I studied, I've become less motivated to continue my training which I greatly regret. The spark has, for the most part, all but died! Having just watched your presentation, I've come to the conclusion that a study of Cane Self Defence is something that I would enjoy learning and practicing. Thank you.
@@TheOzflyer Thank you for your comment, Sir! I'm looking forward to starting as soon as the snow melts! Take care and stay safe!
Mike Prell you would be better of going back to the kwon do, at least it works
The crap in the video will get you killed, if you live in USA better off with a con carry .22
@@chris8967 First of all, my Tae Kwon Do active days are over. The body isn't up to all of that fun anymore. Secondly, there are way too many idiots running around with guns ( and No, I am Not anti-gun!) without me adding to their ranks! And third, until you're faced with the situation, don't dis-regard the element of surprise! It works! I know!
Learn another useless skill. Fucking joke.
@@mikeprell2747 can you still play baseball? If your answer is no, how are you planning to swing the cane hard enough to stop or hurt an attacker?
If you want to call cane_fu fun fine, but it is not a self defence style that will work in the real world
"Thy rod and thy staff comfort me." David was a shepherd, he knew a thing or two about staffs :)
And slings. In fact, this sling may have been a staff sling for more velocity.
Yelp
Great Class and a good reminder of simple measures we can take in scary moments. Now that the average age of people in USA is late 40's, cane mastery is more relevant as a handy and practical skill to learn. It doesn't require ammunition or batteries, no license needed, no moving parts to maintain, and it's TSA approved. It only takes respect & effort. Thanks!
Mike I am also 73 with a black belt in Kenpo and everything you stated is exactly the same for me. May you stay healthy and live a long enjoyable life
Kenpo since 1982, keep healty and strong my Brother, Respectfully,
Did not know that my straight medical device with knob on top will get me a felony charge in some states! Holy Sticks!!! Great lesson, simple techniques: easy to remember, easy to practice, easy to execute. I'm changing my type medical device. Thanks for the video.
Never admit it's a weapon it's always walking aid covered under the ADA and HIPPA and never back down on that.
tell them you will see them in court.
Thanks for posting.
E X C E L L E N T !!!
I'm a decrepit old disabled man that carries a cane to help me keep my balance. Nothing wrong with my walking, but the cane is pointed in the direction I'm falling in...and I push off, to keep from falling down. I've watched your video Avery few months, to keep the techniques fresh in my mind, in the event some Perp decides he wants to attack an old stumble-bum old man. I'd be willing to bet that if that happened, knowing your training, it would be a life-changing event for the Perp! He either changes his ways or goes and buys himself a DRESS !!!
Thank you for your combined ideas and demonstrations.
( At 36:27 on to the end of the video, there is no video, but there is audio)...Just reporting. I very much appreciate your making this video. I FEEL allot safer knowing these principles. THANK YOU
I apologize if I am wrong on his name but Mark Shuey here is Johnny on the spot. This is an excellent example of being a student first. He must be wonderful to work with.
Mark Shuey is a great guy. I have been to several seminars with him. Some of my friends continue to study in a Cane class near Cleveland, OH.
@@hcassidy1 that is good to hear.
@@hcassidy1 I have looked in to him more since this comment. I suppose he would be pretty good lol
This was great guys, I learned somethings. Thought back to my childhood watching the Avengers with John Steed and Emma Peel 1960's, he used similar techniques with an umbrella. I am older now with physical challenges but like to play with bullies. Thank you for awakening me.
good to hear from a fellow Avengers fan
It's not uncommon for people to think about Emma Peel :)
I AM DISABLED AND I THANK YOU FOR THE POST
So am i and this is based on an abled bodied person NOT disabled lol
23:50 "that's boxing that's not martial arts". Boxing IS a martial art.
Hey hé was joking or did you not get that?
@@dimitriwolfs9370 I didn't get that. Lol. I'll have to watch it again.
@@dimitriwolfs9370 yeah I didn't hear the Mike Tyson reference.
Hi I'm interested in the cane Fighting tectnixt and I'm on the streets here in Riverside and I'm on the streets so I needed to to learn to defend myself on this new texnic on how to fight with it.
Boxing is not a martial art,it’s a sport!A martial art is used in real combat.Bt the military!
The point that you can carry however you want to is revolutionary. This needs to be made clear in every cane defense video.
Glad to see practitioners of Isshinryu in the class. Got my training in it around the 1970s. Interesting presentation. Am almost 80 so the Cane is almost practical ...
Outstanding presentation!
I’m glad I’m watching this, I have a friend who uses a cane because he needs to and hopefully won’t have to use any of these techniques but I will tell him to watch this video and practice with it.
I have the axe head cane it's practically indestructible but you drop it and it hurts too heavy but I love it. The cane is super helpful to get groceries that are too far to reach.
I will not go down without a fight. An attacker may be younger faster stronger and way crazier than me, which is why I practice; for the day, I hope never happens. If you ever see someone attacking me, I pray you'll come and help. More practice, less criticism makes for good student.
Thank you for presenting me with the opportunity to practice. I choose this.
Go go to the 15 min mark to bypass all the yapping . . . But, when he gets right down to it: fast, powerful and direct! No fancy BS. Just gets the job done. THAT is what self defense is all about. Forget the fancy twists, twirls, etc. Defend yourself and get out. I will be bringing a cane on my next international trip!
Y’all gotta stop calling shit fancy lol get into the moment and forget how it looks. Find out how it’s useful and if you can personally apply it. If not, move on. We all have different levels of awareness, athleticism, etc.
I just loved this stuff and this is so very cool and I'm getting me one for self defense only just to protection of myself and my family.
I knew it! Threaded cane is the best weapon in Bloodborne..
You can tell this man has been around a long time and knows what he is teaching. The cane has long been using as a self defensive weapon in Hapkido.
It's also interesting that he's aware of the true nature of taichi, as he mentions near the end.
I like to put it this way::
It is the CANE that makes you ABLE....
Cheeky word play!
Ahhhh… I see what you did there
@@21CCommunIT
You and the other guy ARE SMART - that's why ! Most people have this OVER THEIR HEADS!
@@johnnywishbone932
You and the other guy ARE SMART - that's why ! Most people have this OVER THEIR HEADS!
You stole my joke! Lol
Very interesting comments.All valid!
I believe a well practiced attack with a cane, which is coming from below to up, can be highly effective because of its shock value, stopping power, and the ability to follow up quickly at a safe distance. This is based on my experience with fighting sticks, staffs, batons, and canes. More importantly, It is legal to carry and allows an individual, especially older folks, a sound method of protecting themselves. Simple body mechanics, minimal training, and the low cost makes this a discipline available to most people. Doing something is better than becoming a victim, even if you are still victimized. With the lack of respect for the individual escalating at an alarming rate, It is imperative that people take responsibility for their own safety and protection. If you are going out into this world anywhere you should be prepared.
Fight the Good Fight Every Moment. Every minute. Every hour.
Ya'll take care out there.
Beware the man who walks with a cane but no limp.
Indeed!
@Charles Pratt
It means... HE'S NOT A WHIMP!
Beware the man who carries a sword cane and fakes a limp.
Or as I refer to it.. my "Sissy "stick!..🤪
So true but I do have a limp because of my Neve damage to my hip that's why I limp at time's
I own and carry a very nice Cane Masters cane. If I ever need to use it, for the most part I'll use it as a two handed thwacking stick. Keys are strike fast, strike hard, strike accurately, and go for vulnerable areas like elbows & knees if the head is otherwise covered.
I really appreciate this video and very much enjoyed it ⚡👍😎🤘
There was a very old martial art style in France called Savat, and it was like kickboxing with a cane. Had French leadership realized its significance, it could have progressed French fighting far. I have included cane in my martial science system. The cane as they are saying because you can carry it freeely, is of special significance. Learn to utilize the weapons around u - if in the home would u grab the numchucks before the katana? How about anything before the gun? So around u before the gun gets the shot off, is a broomstick, a rock, a stick, as bottle or glass, a kitchen knife... the pen... it is mightier than the sword... I taught my guards with the pen in their front suit pocket how to drive it into the side of the neck in the most prestigious places in the city. This is a good show here. That big dude is a warrior nut! love the dude.
there is a weapon to put on ur key chain called a Kubotan - sensei Kubota from Shotokan
When it comes to fighting technique that they are talking - who has lengthy melee weapons these days short of a broomstick? So in historical fights, Miyamoto Mushashi was only tied once with a fighter using a bostick - long enough to counter his blade - so a cane as they say is a great "tool" to counter modern local threats.
What an awesome video, well at least until the end when that Dr. that loves to hear himself speak, opened his big mouth to give an approval that we don't care about or need.
It's not only the practice which is important, it's developing the mind set, it OK to harm someone who has the intention on harming you. And to do it without any reservations.
I’ve always thought of the cane as a bayonet, first, club, second, then do what you can to stop or change his attitude, while making an exit. Awareness of my surroundings, is number one defense, cane will give me distance to exit situation and time to get to my firearms. A nice smile & friendly personality may keep you out of bad situations! I’ve never been in a good fight, that didn’t involve blood & pain. Be nice, be helpful! Get a strong cane!
Funny. I often use a cane while also carrying a firearm and I never really explored the possibilities. An oversight which need to be corrected.
I agree. But, now I've suffered a stoke, more so than ever.
Don't forget when you use a cane, a space time distortion rift will occur, permitting you to do 3 to 4 moves in the time it takes your opponent to do 1. Do not be surprised when they appear frozen in time while you beat the crap out of them, and they appear to be standing still while you do it.
Boy you really drank the koolaid.
I have found that to be true as well. I walk with a cane...
@@selfdefensept you forget that an opponent such as a bully is not expecting to be attacked back? This causes hesitation and confusion in the attacker. Hence the _space/time_ reference.
Odee Dillon I’m not forgetting any such thing I was a cop on patrol in the South Bronx during the crack wars when we had 96 homicides in one year in my precinct which was only one square mile. I fought more than my share of desperate men and I never used a gun. I have had more real world combat experience than any of these UA-cam heroes. The reality is that when you defend or counter attack with bullshit, it’s not going to work and a truly dedicated adversary is going to keep coming until you stop him.
@@selfdefensept So, how did you stop him?
Sounds great. Love to see this talk pressure tested.
People out there: be careful not to get over-confident from watching this video. Now, I'm not giving you a bio or attempting to brag in the following comment. I"m giving you some true, real back ground of mine thst qualifies me to make the statement about warning you: do NOT get over-confident from this video. I started martial arts from being trained by a WWII Navy combat veteran jiu-jitsu practitioner who had killed people during his time, then judo, kyokishinkai-kan became a black belt after that. I had been a criminal as a youth and a fighter, so bad, they wouldm't accept me to enlist in the Army. I then petitioned to clear my name, won and joined the police in the toughest city in America. We were trained mostly by 3-war Marines. I become a street cop in a special crime unit who had at least 250-275 fast fights to take down criminals, had about 25 private long fights-- average a 1 to 3 minutes--scattered throughout youth and adulthood losing 5 , winning 20. I also had a couple of "only one" walks away--with no body around. I'm still here. I have never, never started a fight. I've been cut, hit so hard a couple of times that my brain stem moved, etc. Never badly hurt because as I used to teach my students that I trained," you may not win every fight, but you'll avoid getting hurt if you're well- trained." But they won most and I trained a kid who became a National Tae Kwon Do champion. I became a Dept. of State Advisor after that. I trained with many improvisrd weapons. Used them too. In the streets there are gang members , ex-cons, bikers and even some office workers with tempers who are tough. If that old man calling himself a grandmaster ever got attacked by a gang member in LA, Chicago, New York, Atlanta or in rural America; they would make him eat that cane. The problem with at least 95% of martial arts "masters" is they have never been in one real fight. And 99% haven't been attacked where the guy is trying to kill them. I have. Many other guys have ,especially those gang members I mentioned. As far as the large bald guy, he is big and should be trained enough to punch the heck out of somebody. But some big huys just don't have it. I've know a few 5'6" dudes who could handle 2 or 3 opponents in street fights. You never know. But what you need to know is if you try whipping someone with a cane--say a guy who grew up with his dad punching him in the face every night, then becoming a street thug; he will just look at you. As a cop--and many cops will attest to this-- I and they have had to hit some criminals so hard on the head with the hardwood nighstick that the stick cracked and the criminal kept coming. Subdued with a black jack or gun butt. That is thr type that is out there. " Whipping " with a cane that has a poor weight/length ratio is insane. I also was certified as a cop in Dr. Koga of Japan police baton training. There are ways to use a 36" cane. But these people aren't showing you correctly. And that knob cane B.S. is just that: B.S. In Calif. yes, as they'll bother you for carrying a straw in your pocket. Nobody is going to arrest you for carrying a heavy knob cane. Intent and use is everything. You can carry a large vise grip on you and do a lot of damage. You won't get pinched. But use them to open up someone's temple and the you will. And a comment herein was sensible: the cane can and eventually will make you a target. Teddy said: " Speak softly and Carry a Big Stick" that does NOT mean to show it.
These Canes look amazing.
Hugh Cassidy,do you have a website were one can learn online as i am interested in your course ? please post it thanks.
When he says flicking my wrist sums it up for me.
Sounds like a personal problem.
Outstanding!!
Great video!
I had no idea that a cane could be such a formidable weapon.
If you use it right, a baseball hat.. yes, HAT is a weapon
Do you still instruct with these came defense techniques? Either Mark Shuey Sr. Or Thomas Forman?
If you're 65yrs old, walking from the shop to your car and a drunken yob devices to rob you then having a stick is better than not having one. Crack him in the face a couple of times then get in your car and drive home. Nobody in their right mind is going to take a cane into a situation where they know there will be violence, but for older folks it's an every-day aid.
Thank you. 40 years martial arts front line infantry cold war..front line inner city first responder..been into shilleleigh and eskrima ..got so good 1 strike I broke a cold steel in half. Not what I am about. This is. Ordered mine today. Woody QGJM.
The secret is to tell the attackers how much you paid for your magic cane. At this point, they either freeze in disbelief or fall to the ground laughing. This is when you bust out some of those dope moves...
"How you like me now? Got some Yip Man for yo' ass!"
Real proficiency with any weapon develops only with time and dedication. This "Master's" cane, and a false sense of security against someone with a little bit of training and or simple street smarts and you'll wind up with $300 worth of splinters from your rectum to your tonsils. Then you'll have to buy that Master's magic toilet paper they just happened to mention. And then...
"So, Yung Fool..." "Your Kung Fu is strong! But not strong enough. It's time for your next lesson. Show me... LICKY BALLS! NOW!"
I've acquired several of Mark's canes, in over 20yrs & quite a few, for friends. I travel often & have carried them Worldwide. I've trained various martial arts since I was 11 (1968).
After years of abuse & motorcycle wrecks, I depend on a cane sometimes. It's a nice friend to have along.
THANK YOU SIR!! 😎
What a great use of techniques and simplicity, my mind is full of possibilities to use this system, are you in Atlanta by chance?
What do you do if you have bad balance because I have C.P.and I need my cane for balance so what you teach would not help me?
I've gotten so many positive comments on my initial comment to this video that I thought I should make another. One that probably could have been included in my initial comment. Before anyone decides to arm themselves with any impact weapon or knife, there is one thing they should already know..... They should know how to fight! Yes it's true. An impact weapon can greatly augment the striking power and effectiveness of someone who already knows how to fight. However, simply having a weapon does NOT in anyway make up for not knowing how to fight. If you do not know how to fight and attempt to use a Cane or any other stick, Unless you get lucky, you will most likely be disarmed and have the weapon used against you.
What's a better hook?wide or narrow? Depends on situation..what provides more techniques?
The thing I didn't see here was when the aggressor grabs the cane in your hand. There should have been the techniques shown how to recover your cane.
38 in your pocket ...Sorted
@@Interdiction Works in the Excited States but not in Canada or the UK where firearm control is draconian.
Well, one thing to consider is that if he is untrained, he is probably grabbing the cane with both hands and pulling it towards him. Which is to say he pulling you into close very range while both of his hands are occupied and moving away from you.
You can let him have the cane once in close and render him incapable of defending himself without too much in the way of fighting skills. Close up and undefended should make it easy for a forceful eye poke and a couple of strikes to the throat.
You also don’t see the attacker attacking or in any way fighting back
Let me give you a hint if he grabs your cane run away as fast as you can
If they grab your cane, rather than hitting you in the face, they are not trained. If they grab your cane, they likely have thier hands occupied with the cane. Let it go, hit or kick them a few times, then take it back and continue caning them.
Do you know if Thomas S. Forman is still teaching and do you know contact info for him?
honestly that guy with that cane looks like a retired pro wrestler or powerlifter, he's huge. Nobody's trying to F with a dude like that.
The whole point about this Art is about what YOU can do if you're ready. Just keep two things in mind. Moral justification and element of surprise.
They did I think, mention a career in the military. Has fairly obviously continued to do bodily conditioning despite his humorous reference to his own stomach
MAYBE HE CAN TELL US WHERE WE CAN SECURE SOME AMMUNITION.....👌🏼I’M DISABLED AND GUESS WHAT, I HAVE BEEN EYEBALLING THIS CANE FOR YEARS AND I WAS RIGHT.....I’M GOING TO GET THIS BABY! ALSO, MY C.C.L......THANK YOU SIR!!👊🏼
Please don’t try this in real life. Most thugs that will come at you with a knife or an empty hand know how to throw them, and even if it’s a junkie they will be so smacked out they won’t even feel it( look at how many times police have to shoot these scumbag multiple times and they keep getting back up.
Do get killed for $20 your life is worth more than that.
I purchased my cane the DTNC cane a month and half ago in dark brown with a shinny finish it's beautiful and matches by bedroom furniture is the reason why it stays on top of my dresser. I think the cane should have started out at being one and a quarter inch in diameter before they start removing wood on the cane making all those grooves and notches. Shark Teeth etc. My cane is very light light as a feather I have doubts if it would last more than two good licks hitting bone. Above all I still rather carry my all metal canes for everyday carry. My DTNC stays on my dresser for looks.
After using a cane for 8-9 years i wish i could learn this! One of my greatest fears is having a cane makes me look weak and an easy target! Having a broken back i can not really fight, so this would answer many issues for me!
Have you ever worked with WWP or any other group?
Don’t try it,
Don’t die for the content of your wallet, your life is worth more than that
@@chris8967 I will never hand over my stuff to a theif! With or without an instrument of aid
@@MrCRAIGSHILL by the way if that is truly your attitude in real life I really hope you have the right to con carry wherever you live, and that you exercise it with at a minimum 38.
I spent a few years as a LEO and the vast majority of attempted murder and murder victims were people with attitudes like your,
I get it never back down ect, but it sounds better in your head than it works out in real life.
At the end of the day your family would rather you lost $50 than have to identify you at a morgue.
"You can carry it anywhere"... if the cop agrees with you. When he doesn't, either he keeps it (and lets you walk away) or you insist (and you get arrested).
In NY, anything used as a weapon IS a weapon.
If it was used. Until then it is not.
So, would YOU not use a cane to protect yourself if attacked? Far as the cops are concerned, would you rather be in hospitol, or alive and well? This is why Lawyers were invented. They are good for the economy!
For people who still don’t like being seen with a cane, a good golfing umbrella does the same thing. It may not have the hook on the end, but for keeping assailants at distance, swing strikes, poking eyes, or groin shots, they are a good substitute.
I was raised in hostile areas some of the most violent in the US. My Father was a Marine and believed me to be naturally drawn to violence and fightting. I quickly took up boxing before any other schooling. I'm of Irish descent (pirate for sure because of genetic islander evidence) and a quarter Hun. It may be genes. I lived life more war than peace. Through no fault of my own I was the victim of conspiracy and trained through a member of the CIA Mkultra assassin school. I was trained in multiple martial arts as well as western gun trickery through the Mundan line only one generation from the man himself. I will not disclose the teachers because of criminal liability and after all they are still father figures to me and are not all entirely aware of what I was put through. My father passed away only knowing small parts of a greater truth. I always protected my loved ones. The only reason I'm not one of these killers on the news is because my mother broke through the mental conditioning and created a question in my head that saved me near the brink of death. I made deals with the US government and through service eventually I was exonerated for my involvement because frankly I only injured persons guilty bnb of greater crimes and or defended myself as a minor in threat of my life. I never murdered anyone. It saved my soul. I tried spirituality and hiding from war and violence but it found me. I realised I was meant for a greater path. I became a "no kill" do no harm style martial artist. This is easy to safe middle income Americans. Nothing to it. But I took on dangerous journalistic ventures, a profession in corporate security contracting (VIP specialty) and Veteran Mental Health and active duty suicide prevention. I was the guy in the epicenter. I never lost anyone. Never injured anyone more than I helped them. I disarmed people of deadly weapons under suicidal and homicidal ideation daily. I often told policemen everything was fine and to put away the guns. I handled most everything with simple objects like a towel. My jacket. A distraction and my bare hands. I'm the closest person you'll ever meet to batman. But I'm no billionaire. I coincidently became disabled in an accident trying to save the lives of 2 vets both decorated and purple hearts. My injury is the same one that killed Bruce Lee in the end (bad medicating) and ended Bruce Waynes night job. Explosive herniation of L4L5 and permanent neurological damage. Had to learn to walk all over again. After surgery never returned to normal. Life destroying illness leafing to severe depression. This all happened after 3 months of being married. I had to switch to a gun. My psycho emotional profile was not good and living in a really bad neighborhood again I was becoming a slow moving target. I had encounters. The police asked me to let them handle things from now on. I had to climb out of a very deep hole to find my warrior heart again. I did.
This isn't a brag. My belief system does not allow ego fanning. I was too ashamed of my early life and carried it around like a hideous tumor. In buddhism we should be willing to tell our path story as a lesson and not cling to any judgements of others. I'm not that great at it though. I mean to teach you something. It's this. Whenever I see overweight guys with fighting canes with a circle of people who do not need canes and are unbelievable as cane users... and they are talking 75% of the time nll or more... I know they are effective in a confrontation. Practice realistic confrontation scenarios. Watch videos of assaults. Then make a sport of it like wrestling and fencing. Defend and attack. Get the movements down smooth. Get the opponents into a position in which they can or.will no longer be a threat to you or others and then practice escaping, debilitating and or calling for assistance. Learn arrest techniques legal in your area for civilians. Do not cling to your magic cane. It can hinder you as much as save you. Make it more part of the confrontation environment and remember you nees it for balance and walking in the end.
Might I suggest you put the crack pipe down and going outside to pet your lamas?
Only an opinion, I like the video though :)
There are a lot of factors to consider in commotions, cases, and/or scenarios though. Example: Opponent Resistance, Dealing/Handling Time, Weapon Quality & Quantity, Frequent Realistic Actions & Habits, and Threat-Aggression Levels to name a few.
Nevertheless, nice video in elaborating the capabilities and feats possible with a walking cane. I like & support the idea that even an arnis/eskrima stick may not be allowed in some public areas although the sticks are majority for self-defence. As an Arnis Instructor/Swordsman, I teach and show what reality may look like. Like I say often, Train Reality for Reality, but of course in progression and safety limits. Before, I also talk a lot than show, hehe. Nowadays, I mostly show and only talk after the training/seminar and the folks like it more that way.
It's good to have these seminars for people's awareness. It's best to have the skills and yet not to be in a circumstance we have to be in a fight ("having when you not need it rather than not having when you need it"). We can learn a lot of stuff, but we will never know the outcome of a fight with 100% assurance.
God Bless people and may peace be with us all. (Pugay)
any weapon is only as effective as the skill of the person who wields that weapon. training with your chosen weapon is absolutely necessary if you are to have any hope of success with it. in order to use the cane as demonstrated in this video it would require some quickness, coordination, agility, balance, and confidence in your ability to fight with it. I say that a timid person, a frail person, a person with slow reactions and reflexes is going to get severely injured trying to fend of attackers with his cane. mostly he'll just piss off his attacker who'll likely take the can and beat you with it.
Maybe. Maybe not.
@Semper Fi Though it is unlikely any attacker will rip off your arm and beat you to death with it. So stick with boxing!
Type in CHOSUN NINJA...and you'll see a lot of what these two instructors are teaching. It's Ninja based techniques!
Juppppp
The first speaker is nearly impossible to understand, because of the echo caused by the gym, and he faces away from the mike. Most likely I'm not the only one missing at least a third of the words. Just trying to be cantankerous. And let you know.
In order to amplify their voices, I ran the audio thru an old PC speaker system, plugged into my phone earphone jack. It's still low, but hearable
What if you're not a martial artist or a novice, how long will this take you to commit this to muscle memory ?
Your feet work , gives you power ,
The arm's fail at ,
Yet together the Spirit and mind Remains ⚔️🕊️
Great teachers. I like the low key of this training where speed and strength are less relevant. Might be good against a dog attack too I when your out for a walk.
Have you trained with the zapper cane ? Let me know if you have any ideas on how to protect your self with the zapper cane training
Can be carried anywhere in the world. Deadly weapon in plain sight!
Excellent. Gentleman's assist.
"Self defense ... begins with the belief that you are worth defending."
Rorion Gracie
How do I purchase that key and that you have a new video because I walk with two cans because I have CP which is cerebral palsy
I’ve done Kali for 30 years. My knees are shot. Just got one of their canes. It’s no joke. Great weapon for sure. But …. In this video I see some Bulshitso.
Sorry about that how do I purchase that cane that you have in the video I am watching your video but I walk with two cans I have CP I want to learn self-defense but I’m here in New York
Is there a legal limit to how tall the cane can be to be considered a weapon? I prefer using a walking stick length so I can hold it higher and don't lean on it too much and throw myself out of alignment. Would that be ok as long as there's a crook on it? Maybe if it was adjustable?
I have a cane made of blackthorn. I think it's home-made. I bought it second-hand. It's tough as steel almost. I would like to take some of their classes.
Question. All of the cains shown here ate wooden. Would aluminum work as well. It works on baseballs.
Carved Wooden, Bamboo, Wicker, Bone, Aluminium, Carbon. My favorite is a carved woode, black lackered with Ivory head of a Eagle ( from 1937 ).
Only if you find an aluminum cane specifically designed for impact. Most available aluminum canes are designed for support and have things walls that are strong when leaned on, but will usually bend or crumple if used to strike with.
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i remember some of these cane attacks.
Sorry to say that the video shows only the back part of the cane master And we practically loose information being demonstrated.
next month is the super grandmasters of boquet bashing
For those that are saying, unless your trained your better off with no weapon, or cane in this case, that's B.S. Any weapon is better than no weapon. Trained or not.
I need one of these for trips to the mall. Coming through!
Going-out-of-business sale here I come!
Welcome to hapkido where the cane has always been taught
...any link to homepage goota get one of them canes
Canemasters.com
I think the cane by virtue of the fact that 1) you can take it anywhere and 2) It hits very hard and is capable of breaking bone, is perhaps the ultimate Self Defense tool after a handgun. However, I'm sorry.The videos I have viewed online depicting the way most people seem to be teaching how to use the cane are ill advised. These joint locks around the arm or hooking the neck and the arm at the same time are overly complicated and will not work for most people under the stress of combat. I speak from experience. Not only have I been involved in the Martial arts for over 40 years, I was a Police Officer in the South Bronx with the NYPD for 15 years. I made over 500 arrests and assisted in a thousand more. During that time I was involved in more hand to hand combat with desperate criminals than most of the people passing themselves off as Self Defense experts. I disarmed people armed with knives, baseball bats and handguns, all without firing a shot.
All I need to do is look at certain moves to know whether or not an instructor has real world experience. I recall seeing one video clip of Mr. Shuey at a seminar where he is showing a cane defense against a right punch. The defense consisted of "parrying" the punch with his left hand, with his right hand bringing the shaft of the cane up under the right arm of the assailant " supposedly breaking the shoulder" ( I doubt that will happen ) and then positioning it in such a way that by grasping the the other end of the shaft with his left hand he could exert great leverage on the assailant's right arm and take him down. Now there is no question that if you are able to get both hands on the cane in the position he shows, you will definitely have the leverage to take this person down. The problem with that particular technique is that you will never get there. The flaw is not in the use of the cane, but rather in the reliance on a single hand parry to stop the punch.
Imagine if you will, Mr Shuey or someone his size attempting to pull off that technique against the Bruiser who seems to be his co-instructor on the video here. When that big guy throws his powerful right punch and you try to "parry" it with your left hand, the lights are going to go out for you. His hand / arm is going to crash right through that parry and take your head off and you will never get to the rest of the technique because a parry is simply not a powerful enough move to stop a punch from a powerful guy. Even a hard block can fail under such a blow. And whileI'm on the subject of the Big Co-Instructor who appears to be something on the order 6'3" give or take an inch and looks to weigh something on the order of 250 + lbs, He needs Self Defense training about as much as a bald man needs a hair net. I'm sure a cane helps him, but most adversaries wouldn't even try him owing to his size. Further, for people who are selling the "go anywhere stealth aspect" of this device, to state that he was walking around a mall spinning it as he demonstrated here, is really stupid and obnoxious. You are leaving no doubt as to what that cane is and why you are carrying it. It seems his 16 year old son who called him out on it has more sense than he does.
I also think many of these instructors overestimate how much pain they are delivering with their strikes and underestimating how much pain some individuals are capable of withstanding, especially if on drugs. Reliance on the infliction of pain alone is a mistake. And while a one handed whipping motion can generate speed and power, the rebound generated by a strike against a hard object like a skull or a shin could cause someone to loose control of the cane if they only have one hand on it. As a rookie, I once struck a man who chose to fight with me three times in the head with my night stick with one hand. The blows bounced off his head like a bat hitting a baseball and opened up his scalp right down to the skull requiring 40 stitches to close so you know he was hit hard. Yet, these three blows didn't seem to even slow him down. He rushed me and attempted to rip my service revolver from it's holster. Luckily my partner delivered a two handed baseball bat type strike to his wrist which foiled his plan and then backup arrived and he was cuffed. After that, I began using my martial arts knowledge and augmented my stick use with that. I got up to speed real fast and never came close to losing another fight again.
Believe me when I tell you the best way to use a cane is to keep two hands on it about 22 inches apart like a night stick. You can jab and punch with it from either side. Or you can hit one handed at the legs where it is difficult to grab. Once you've staggered or hurt the assailant you can hook a leg and take him down. Don't rely on inflicting pain alone. When you hit something, break it. You're fighting for your life. Hit the jaw? Break the jaw. Hit with the hook in the eye socket? Break the eye socket. Hit the knee? Shatter the knee so it can't support the bodyweight. Anything else as far as I'm concerned looks great at seminars and makes for great theater and demonstrations, but it's just playing games.
Good advice. There are a couple of LAPD nightstick training videos from the 1960's floating around UA-cam, I recommend anyone looking for effective techniques with a cane, stick, etc., try those.
SelfdefensePT - i like the way you think! We do kyokushin karate training and we train that every block and every strike is with the purpose of breaking bones and/or causing the adversary to bleed profusely while causing maximum damage!
Wow... I love the reality you convey. I've nowhere the experience , or training you've had, but have been in a dozen or so street level scraps. Four involved hand held weapons. I find video's like this informative, but some instinctive level makes me feel they fall a little or a lot short, because I've experienced the power, speed, pain and terror, that go's into a real fight where you can get really really hurt,(And that happened too), so I found your input actually more relevant then the video, (mind you I still liked a lot of,((not all)), of what they had to say and show).
Outstanding advice. Thanks for not only sharing it with us, but for your service as well.
Well, if you are not a police officer, in most countries you will be judged to a great fine or even prison sentence - because an attacker will get great damage (especially in the case with the knee), and you? And you here are whole and in one piece. Undamaged.
Very good !
When you are strong appear weak and when you were weak appear strong
Where can I get the cane for Disabled veteran ? I am a disabled veteran.
And no info on their web site or the canes they sell?
archangel20031 re-watch video all the way thru credits. Website and contact info right there. Either pause at that point or take screenshot,I did.
Are you planning any training in Long Island?
What is the outcome of a strike directly across the jugular?
He told you any strikes above the shoulders can result in death. If you wanna do 35 years in San Quentin go ahead !
I actually DO need a cane for walking. I can stand without it, but my right leg is too damaged to do much else.
So I have to work on strike techniques from that starting position.
I also have to defend my Mom, who is 91 and uses a walker to get around. So, talk about "Looking like a victim"...that is us!
I am a 230 lb. Marine Veteran, still in fairly good physical condition -- other than the artificial hip -- so that may be of some deterence value. But, as you said, I can't use my licensed firearm in every defense situation, or even carry it in many places. So the cane becomes a pretty valuable device!
Floyd I believe there is a special place in Hell for those who attack the elderly. Take care & be safe.
No one who is unable to fight without a cane should be encouraged to try to fight with one.
Switchblades are now legal in Illinois if you have a Firearms owners Identification Card. FOID or CCW Card.
In Kansas everthing but Photon Cannons are legal concealed or open.
12 in switch blades, chain saws, samauri swords excedra!!!
The law shouldn't dictate how you protect yourself.
Tell that to the judge.
I was a police officer for a lot of years and I would absolutely take your cane away incident to arrest.
I think the people who are interested in using a cane for self defense would happy to hand the cane over to you as an identified police officer if it made you feel more comfortable.
He thinks “personal space” is bad, wait till he starts hearing “social distance”!!
Can the cane break while using it in self defense?
If you're defending against a cement truck, yeah.
"grandmaster"
lol. this is hilarious. a guy in army pants teaching the Art Of The Cane to a bunch of people in pyjamas.
Is this kwai chang "cane", Grasshopper.
How many canes in solitary?
i have a Canemaster Blackbelt, Grand master Shuey is awesome to train with !!!
does he have a website were one can learn online ?