Respectfully, this is *not* a boring video. Thanks for the easily understandable explanations and well-reasoned suggestions. It's content like this that keep us tuned in to your channel.
Best explanation in a video that I have seen on this topic. You deserve WAY more views with the level of quality i have seen in just the couple of videos that I have watched on the channel so far !!!!
“Videos guys being video guys just ignoring audio quality as usual” 🤣🤣🤣 YEP! This video is great Pags! Super fascinating! PS I am a little bummed there was no fire 🔥 😜
One case where phantom power can potentially cause damage is connecting a phone to a console mic input without the use of a DI or similar device that provides transformer isolation. If using just a cable with no isolation and depending on how the connectors are wired, if phantom is accidentally left on, it could damage the phone. Great explanation and debunking. Well done!
Thats a good point, and i do have clients that hook up their phone to the pres occasionally to just run stuff through the speakers. Thanks for checking it out!
What I hate about this video is that it's so damn good, I have to go listen to your other 400 videos as well! Like I have time for that. But thank you Pags, your explanations are brilliant and in terms of engineering, spot on. As an FYI, since I'm a vintage ribbon mic freak and have over 30 of them, I always use a Cloud Lifter type of device with ribbon mics as it does two things. The device requires phantom power so any phantom power issues never get near my mic and two since ribbon mica have such low output, I get a gain boost 6 ft from the ribbon to the micpre. Problem solved.
The cloudlifter Z is pretty awesome with the variable load. If you haven't played with that its worth the cost of admission. There are 2 gain settings as well.
@@meistudiony I went out and bought every single "Cloud Lifter" type device I could find. I respect Stephen Sank's Cloud Lifter design, but I can't buy a lot of those things at $250 a shot! So I settled on SE Dynamite ($99) and bought a dozen. Best bang for the buck (pun intended).
Oh wow didn't realize this about dynamics. super cool demonstration! definitely creates more ease, but i'll also be more mindful about phantom power to dynamics (i often don't check for it in many situations because it's not as fragile as ribbons, which i rarely use). good to know ribbons aren't as fragile as many engineers have made it seem. definitely a cautionary thing vs 'IT WILL BREAK AND YOU'LL BE OUT $1500!' like I've been told in the past about ribbons 😂.
Very informative as always. In a scenario where you are sending phantom power to a old power brick of a tube mic or to the xlr output of a bass amp etc , are there any dangers or the circuits are protected from dc with a transformer or any other way? I have a analogue soundcraft mixer/ interface with phantom to all channels and I have a Akg solitube tube mic that I don’t use at the same time with a condenser or any active di etc, just to be safe. I’m thinking to buy a phantom power supply unit for powering independently or to buy a sE T.N.T (fet head but with more options) even if I don’t need the extra gain just to use and block the 48v ( extra bonus the impedance settings)
So, that a great situation which i probably should have covered. The power supplies that i have in the studio have the hot and cold pins for the audio don't go through the power supply circuit at all. (literally just go from the XLR to the 5 or 7 pin connector directly with a pair of wires. The audio connection usually then go to the transformer in the mic that would block the DC. There is one case however, in the Rode NTK, where there is no transformer at the output of the mic. According to Rode, though, this will not cause damage. help.rode.com/hc/en-us/articles/6946493756687-Will-phantom-power-damage-my-microphone-power-supply-unit-PSU This should definitely be looked into on a case by case basis though, as there are a lot of different designs. Using a lifter (fet head etc.) can certainly help to block that from happening, but you're probably not in much danger if you have it on accidentally. Most condensers dont need that extra gain, but if you want to play it safe, you can certainly use that, or have a dc blocking box made (similar to what i did with the balance box).
Respectfully, this is *not* a boring video. Thanks for the easily understandable explanations and well-reasoned suggestions. It's content like this that keep us tuned in to your channel.
I appreciate that you got something out of it and thanks for the comment! To me it was like melba toast with no water. lol
Best explanation in a video that I have seen on this topic. You deserve WAY more views with the level of quality i have seen in just the couple of videos that I have watched on the channel so far !!!!
Wow, thank you for the comment! I really appreciate the feedback! Im humbled!
Love this. MEI is busting myths.
“Videos guys being video guys just ignoring audio quality as usual” 🤣🤣🤣 YEP!
This video is great Pags! Super fascinating!
PS I am a little bummed there was no fire 🔥 😜
Thanks for trudgin thru it. Pretty dry topic. The next video was actually fun to make. Cant wait to finish that up. Editings been hell on that one.
Great job, man!
Super informative and well put together, thank you!
Appreciate it!
One case where phantom power can potentially cause damage is connecting a phone to a console mic input without the use of a DI or similar device that provides transformer isolation.
If using just a cable with no isolation and depending on how the connectors are wired, if phantom is accidentally left on, it could damage the phone.
Great explanation and debunking. Well done!
Thats a good point, and i do have clients that hook up their phone to the pres occasionally to just run stuff through the speakers. Thanks for checking it out!
What I hate about this video is that it's so damn good, I have to go listen to your other 400 videos as well! Like I have time for that. But thank you Pags, your explanations are brilliant and in terms of engineering, spot on. As an FYI, since I'm a vintage ribbon mic freak and have over 30 of them, I always use a Cloud Lifter type of device with ribbon mics as it does two things. The device requires phantom power so any phantom power issues never get near my mic and two since ribbon mica have such low output, I get a gain boost 6 ft from the ribbon to the micpre. Problem solved.
The cloudlifter Z is pretty awesome with the variable load. If you haven't played with that its worth the cost of admission. There are 2 gain settings as well.
@@meistudiony I went out and bought every single "Cloud Lifter" type device I could find. I respect Stephen Sank's Cloud Lifter design, but I can't buy a lot of those things at $250 a shot! So I settled on SE Dynamite ($99) and bought a dozen. Best bang for the buck (pun intended).
Oh wow didn't realize this about dynamics. super cool demonstration! definitely creates more ease, but i'll also be more mindful about phantom power to dynamics (i often don't check for it in many situations because it's not as fragile as ribbons, which i rarely use). good to know ribbons aren't as fragile as many engineers have made it seem. definitely a cautionary thing vs 'IT WILL BREAK AND YOU'LL BE OUT $1500!' like I've been told in the past about ribbons 😂.
Theres lots of good and bad info out there. Always better to err on the side of caution, but for most modern equipment, its a non issue.
super informative! thanks for sharing and even showing testing results!
Thank YOU for watching! Appreciate it!
Good video, man. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. I had a bit more fun with the next video... a little more in the creative department than technical!
Damn now i wanna buy a 3d printer and build a ribbon mic myself hahah nice video
Better off building it w good components lol. I did create a legit motor 3D printed that fits into a metal body. But yeah…
Very informative as always.
In a scenario where you are sending phantom power to a old power brick of a tube mic or to the xlr output of a bass amp etc , are there any dangers or the circuits are protected from dc with a transformer or any other way?
I have a analogue soundcraft mixer/ interface with phantom to all channels and I have a Akg solitube tube mic that I don’t use at the same time with a condenser or any active di etc, just to be safe. I’m thinking to buy a phantom power supply unit for powering independently or to buy a sE T.N.T (fet head but with more options) even if I don’t need the extra gain just to use and block the 48v ( extra bonus the impedance settings)
So, that a great situation which i probably should have covered. The power supplies that i have in the studio have the hot and cold pins for the audio don't go through the power supply circuit at all. (literally just go from the XLR to the 5 or 7 pin connector directly with a pair of wires. The audio connection usually then go to the transformer in the mic that would block the DC. There is one case however, in the Rode NTK, where there is no transformer at the output of the mic.
According to Rode, though, this will not cause damage.
help.rode.com/hc/en-us/articles/6946493756687-Will-phantom-power-damage-my-microphone-power-supply-unit-PSU
This should definitely be looked into on a case by case basis though, as there are a lot of different designs.
Using a lifter (fet head etc.) can certainly help to block that from happening, but you're probably not in much danger if you have it on accidentally. Most condensers dont need that extra gain, but if you want to play it safe, you can certainly use that, or have a dc blocking box made (similar to what i did with the balance box).