Feeling Heartbroken and Alone? How to Pick up the Pieces When You are Estranged: I'm giving away a copy of my eBook on the topic here → morinholistictherapy.com/findjoy/
my daughter acted in a despicable way to me that showed how much she hated me, that was about 6 years ago..she intended to hurt me and i am still living with the pain. But i have come to a point now where i dont want to ever see or reconcile with her again..there is nothing that she could say to make things better. i lost her and my 3 grandchildren thank god i have my husband and other daughter. there is no pain like it...i just =have to accept it for the rest of my life.
I have been dealing with complicated grief for almost 2 years now. My Son and his wife is no longer talking to us. I seen my grandson one time last year in December and my granddaughters I haven’t seen in 21 months. My grandkids was taken from me and my husband because it was something they wanted ($) from us and we were not able to give it to them. So now we can’t see are grandkids. It’s been very hard for us to get through this process of grief. It’s like you stated it comes in waves 🌊 Thank You for having this UA-cam channel available to me and others that are going through this horrible situation. I will definitely look for a grief counselor and continue to keep praying for a peaceful outcome. Thank you again
Hello: Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry you are going through this. It's very wise of you to stay informed and get professional support. I will also be praying for you. Are there any specific concerns you have regarding the grief process? Warmly, Marie
I hadn’t heard the term complicated grief before! But that is what I am stuck in 😢 this world without my biological family. I need to learn tools to be able to move forward.
the defn of complicated grief is grief that has gone on "too long"? I do not believe in timing grief. I believe that doing so is a mistake that causes harm. I think it is an odd notion to suggest that thinking about my adult child 6 months after estrangement requires a psychological diagnosis.
I'm right there with you. It's been over two years with my teen daughters. Every single thing Marie talks about here applies to me. I literally just got a therapist, and today realized my Medicaid is being canceled, barring a miracle. No way can I afford a therapist because I pay 1500 month in child support. But I understand completely the "box" you feel stuck in. Marie told me something the other day that I'm thinking on: "OK, so you're not going to end up having the life that you thought. But you're still going to have a life again." Take care.
Hi Frank, I understand. This is horrible when it happens to families. I can hardly believe how common this is and how so many are struggling without support. I'm glad you reached out. Warmly, Marie
That's from your perspective. There would be no estrangement if there was a true genuine bond and closeness on both ends. Prayers, and strength to you! ❤❤
I’m definitely experiencing complicated grief at this time. I’m not sure how I’m going to get through this. I can’t afford a competent therapist that understands this type of situation. It’s definitely not for an intern who is on a steep learning curve. What worries me is that due to decades of abuse by my parents I’ve already exhausted all psychiatric treatments as I was diagnosed treatment resistant/refractory back in 2014. It took nearly 18 months to get into 85% remission. Only one medication in the entire arsenal of what Psychiatry has to offer by way of treatments and therapies works for me and this whole experience is now leaving me in partial remission with no alternatives left to improve or help my condition. I feel from day to day I’m sinking
Hi Ronan: thank you for writing. I agree that no one is over grieving. However the intense shock, denial, anger, bargaining, and guilt for most will be less disturbing for the most part. We can grieve a loved one our entire life, missing them and wanting them back. However, usually by six months one has begun to regain their functioning and ability Complicated grief defines the experience when one is acutely suffering for longer than six months and are unable to cope with the loss. I appreciate you commenting.
You will grieve forever. It's like a death in the family only I feel it's worse because it's ongoing. I lost my Dad when I was young and one of my estranged children had cancer which was cured. But the pain of estrangement fromown children is a pain that I would not wish on anybody and has changed me. Lost confidence selfesteem and deep depression. In saying that everyone goes through it differently. I am fortunate I have a good family and friends who have always been there and are not judgemental.
6 months? You obviously have never felt estrangement from an adult child, and also the loss of beautiful grandchildren that you loved with all your heart. It’s an insidious grief, you want to feel better but you are frozen, and there is no resolution. You have no idea, unless you have walked in our shoes.
Wow, that last comment sucks! I’ve been in both situations. I was estranged for 7years from both my severely mentally I’ll parents. My father was rapid cycling manic depressive, in & out of mental hospitals since I was 7 yrs old. My mother was severely sexually abused by her pedophile father and had multiple personality disorder. I was sexually abused by him as early as I can remember and was called, Grandpas girl. Assigned his, so ai too have dissociative disorder. My mom blamed me for upsetting my father and said I caused him to get sick and go manic and end up in the psych hospital. I took a time out from my parents on my therapy. It helped me realize I was not to fault for my fathers illness. I also hurt both my parents by estranging from them for so long. I know they were very toxic to me. Yet when I reconciled I was glad I did and really regretted not having been able to spend more time with them after they have died. I see the serious and very challenging mental illnesses they were struggling with from a more compassionate view now. And I feel I’m getting my bad karma because my daughter now 49 is in an abusive domestic violence relationship and is defensive and protecting her relationship and will not talk to me. She has influenced my two adult granddaughters not to talk to me either. I’ve done everything I can to be here, to be open, to help. But I keep failing to reconnect with them. I am still in counseling twice a month and have been for 38 years for my difficult childhood and mental diagnosis from hit. I’m 68. And will likely be in therapy all my life, until I’m in a nursing home chewing on my socks:) anyway. I do a lot to help myself. I work pt at a school district so enjoy being with kids in school year & parents teachers and coworkers. I also go to 12 step meetings weekly, exercise every three days with my good friend at YMCA, say hello to my neighbors on daily walks, call family & friends regularly, read and keep up with current events. When I retire I’ll go to senior center activities. My daughter & grands live close by. I think of selling my house and moving away or buying a mobile home and driving around to the national parks in the USA or moving to Portugal or maybe New Zealand. There are lots of options. I can just go about my life and pretend they have moved on to some other life plane or planet. Picture them living peacefully somewhere in quiet and solitude, writing a novel somewhere engrossed in their work. I am doing my best to detach with love as if they are alcoholics. Praying to my higher power for wisdom. Letting go and letting god and saying the Serenity prayer. That’s my life story so far. Hope it helps somebody in similar situation.
Hi Jennie: Thank you for commenting and sharing your story. I am so grateful for how far you have come. You're actively involved in your well-being, seeing a therapist, staying social, wishing your daughter and grandchildren well, and moving forward with excellent practices. If there was one thing you would pass on to those who have estranged from toxic/abusive family what would it be? Also, how did you get to this place that you can detach with love? thank you so much for joining the conversation here. Warmly, Marie
@@youtubemariemorinestrangement Two thingsI would recommend. Find a reliable counselor who will treat you long term for the grief from the estrangement. It is definitely a release/ pressure release valve for me to freely express my thoughts and emotions. For me it’s very toxic to hold all that in, all by myself. Two: Find a support group, I like Alanon, but even an exercise group, yoga group where you often see the same people once a week, just to be with others. For me it helps me feel like I am welcome and that I belong with others, that I am acceptable to others and allowed to be myself, which is ok 👌 These two things are best for me. Thanks for validating and for asking me:)
Oh, how do I detach with love. It’s a practice taught within the Alanon and 12 Step programs. It takes practice. I often say the Serenity Prayer and ask my higher power for help to detach, if I’m angry or hurt, take time to write it down on paper with the goal of stepping back, taking on a new perspective and searching my heart for the true love I do have for my daughter and granddaughters. Realize they have much to process that our family history is so very complex and full of trauma. Look for compassion in my heart for them, write in my journal a love letter for them to find someday. Try to extend myself & be flexible, try to stretch myself emotionally so I don’t succumb to being rigid. Really try to act in a positive light. If I get the chance to see them, just say, yep, yep, um hum, um hum. Try to take it in and understand. This helps me and just to remind myself with the words”detach with love.”
Hi Jennie: I so appreciate your sharing your process of moving forward. Would it be o.k. if I shared it with others? I am so grateful you joined in on the conversation.
My son wants nothing to do with me this helped a little its been a week so far.Hes blocked me on all accounts.Mu heart is broken completely don't know how I can get through this.
Well it’s terrifying I it feels like dying to be honest but then you got to be a warrior and take care of yourself do not feel guilty my kid is 22 my daughter my only daughter she is my only child I called her a monster tell your kid how you feel because it is wrong to voluntarily hurt your parent knowing that my life is tough hard in fact loneliness no friends in Paris I also have ptsd and issues of abandonment I have a narcissistic mum and my mum is acting like a mother to my daughter this is a top it all she is staying at her grandma coz her work is in Israel and she telling me that she is going to move there after her master next April so she freaking abandonned me my daughter iam angry you got to be heartless and have some narcissistic traits to do that you got to show your anger and communicate how much this hurts you I mean these kids are ungrateful and hurtful and it isn’t right people commit suicide I understand why they don’t want to live anymore they lost their kid
Your mother isn't helping her. She is brainwashing her against you even more, and probably been doing this for years. Cut off all contact permanently with them so you can peacefully grieve. You will never heal. There is no closure. You just slowly learn how to navigate through life with the pain. Good luck! ❤❤
I think it is morally wrong to disrespect your mother or vice versa I think it is mortally wrong for a mother a single mom who devoted her life to her daughter and the daughter disrespect the mother and cut ties knowing that her mother is sad and alone you can give all your great advises but we mothers of daughter who cut contact with us are broken hearted and beyond we develop more stress we have panic attacks we are completely alone facing a wall of rejection it is terrifying my god I hope my daughter is just having a break from me she is 22
I hope it’s just a short break. I’m sorry you’re going through this. I know it’s incredibly hurtful. Please be around those who love and value you. Be compassionate with your self.
adults are not children. they are offspring. and are we talking about those who are CUT OFF, or those who DID the cutting off? this was worded deceitfully, which is typical abuser behavior. when your offspring leave you alone, it's almost always because you didn't listen. they told you what was wrong and now you think pretending not to know will save you. nope. it will just ensure you never see them or your grandchildren again. go ahead and chose your ego over your own flesh and blood. they are happier without you, smiling, content in a way they aren't willing to give up anyway. :)
@@gailcarey3597 hence my use of the phrase "almost always", my dear. remember: if someone tells you there's a problem and you respond my stating that it's not alllllways the problem.. then you are part of the problem. and you will never see your grandchildren again. :)
What a generalised statement. Outside influences can cause estrangement as well as lies. It's usually a partner who is insecure has mental issues and is jealous of the relationship with the parents especially the Mum. I had 2 estranged sons. One has come back to us because he now knows the truth which he found out all by himself. My other son has cut him off because of his partner. My on off estranged son will call me only when his partner is not around. We love him so much and can see he is struggling but have never once said a derogatory remarks about her. She comes from a very dysfunctional family and estrangement is quite normal for her family. We were very close and so were my two sons. That has now been destroyed. We will not interfere and hopefully they can have a relationship again. Not always the parent fault. It has nothing to do with ego. It's called love and letting them go and hopefully they will come back.
Obviously you have nothing better to do than troll videos not for you! How many kids have you raised and gone through their estrangement? Clearly you think I'm black and white so I'm guessing you're one of the abusive children who are not yet adults. Adults talk, mine chose not to, they chose to lie and continue to hide their alcoholism and anger and never got over the abandonment of their father. Maybe one day when you all grow up, you'll realize that parents are human, and that simply becoming silent and using grandchildren as weapons are not adult behavior.
Hi dear Morin well I feel of if these you mentioned about I am estranged by my 22 year old she did not wished me a happy Mother’s Day she has been abusive to me for seven years now she is a narcissist cold detached lack of empathy iam enraged I hate the feelings she brings out of me yesterday she was you okay on WhatsApp or she liked my new pictures then she wrote tomorrow is Mother’s Day and the day after I sa her online and she did not wish me a happy Mother’s Day I hated her for that it drove me mad I fact I blocked her but before I blocked I called her a monster a selfish young woman how dare she abuses me manipulates me like that I called her a b….tch iam hurt disoriented I feel a hole inside my heart iam single she is abroad at my narcissistic mum she brainwashed her brain too I blocked them both I blocked my daughter because she cannot doesn’t want to have a healthy talk with me and she doesn’t return my love 22 years of my life for nothing gone i have qnd feel so much hatred disgust against her iam so hurt I feel lonely depressed empty she doesn’t want me near her or in her life in France the 4 th of bay is Mother’s Day if you live your mom you call your mom but nope she did not I feel a sense of shame
Feeling Heartbroken and Alone? How to Pick up the Pieces When You are Estranged:
I'm giving away a copy of my eBook on the topic here → morinholistictherapy.com/findjoy/
Thank you so much
my daughter acted in a despicable way to me that showed how much she hated me, that was about 6 years ago..she intended to hurt me and i am still living with the pain. But i have come to a point now where i dont want to ever see or reconcile with her again..there is nothing that she could say to make things better. i lost her and my 3 grandchildren thank god i have my husband and other daughter. there is no pain like it...i just =have to accept it for the rest of my life.
I have been dealing with complicated grief for almost 2 years now. My Son and his wife is no longer talking to us. I seen my grandson one time last year in December and my granddaughters I haven’t seen in 21 months. My grandkids was taken from me and my husband because it was something they wanted ($) from us and we were not able to give it to them. So now we can’t see are grandkids. It’s been very hard for us to get through this process of grief. It’s like you stated it comes in waves 🌊
Thank You for having this UA-cam channel available to me and others that are going through this horrible situation. I will definitely look for a grief counselor and continue to keep praying for a peaceful outcome.
Thank you again
Hello: Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry you are going through this. It's very wise of you to stay informed and get professional support. I will also be praying for you. Are there any specific concerns you have regarding the grief process? Warmly, Marie
“ Estrangement is a marathon it’s not a sprint. “ Marie Morin
“I intend to accept my condition if being estranged and to resume my life and have new plans and not go down with the ship.” Marie Morin
Thank you for doing these videos. My adult daughters estranged us 7 and 5 years ago with no explanation.
I hadn’t heard the term complicated grief before! But that is what I am stuck in 😢 this world without my biological family. I need to learn tools to be able to move forward.
Best advice I’ve heard yet
the defn of complicated grief is grief that has gone on "too long"? I do not believe in timing grief. I believe that doing so is a mistake that causes harm. I think it is an odd notion to suggest that thinking about my adult child 6 months after estrangement requires a psychological diagnosis.
Thank you I lost my daughter of 32yr old. A year ago. It’s just hitting me.
Wow, I am suffering from this. It has been almost 3 years, estranged from my adult sons after the divorce from their mother.
Ambiguous grief- mourning someone who is still alive. I think every parent has complicated grief in this situation. There is no closure.
@@lab4389 bless u. I know u speak the truth
Thank you for the information ❤
I found it so helpful 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I can’t find a therapist who can help in my town. I can’t shake this. We were so so close.
I'm right there with you. It's been over two years with my teen daughters. Every single thing Marie talks about here applies to me. I literally just got a therapist, and today realized my Medicaid is being canceled, barring a miracle. No way can I afford a therapist because I pay 1500 month in child support.
But I understand completely the "box" you feel stuck in. Marie told me something the other day that I'm thinking on: "OK, so you're not going to end up having the life that you thought. But you're still going to have a life again."
Take care.
Thank you for sharing, Laurie.
Hi Frank, I understand. This is horrible when it happens to families. I can hardly believe how common this is and how so many are struggling without support. I'm glad you reached out. Warmly, Marie
Locate a Griefshare seminar in your area and perhaps they will have a lead on a therapist who could help you.
That's from your perspective. There would be no estrangement if there was a true genuine bond and closeness on both ends. Prayers, and strength to you! ❤❤
Thank you …
I’m definitely experiencing complicated grief at this time. I’m not sure how I’m going to get through this. I can’t afford a competent therapist that understands this type of situation. It’s definitely not for an intern who is on a steep learning curve. What worries me is that due to decades of abuse by my parents I’ve already exhausted all psychiatric treatments as I was diagnosed treatment resistant/refractory back in 2014. It took nearly 18 months to get into 85% remission. Only one medication in the entire arsenal of what Psychiatry has to offer by way of treatments and therapies works for me and this whole experience is now leaving me in partial remission with no alternatives left to improve or help my condition. I feel from day to day I’m sinking
I hear you. Check out my website. Get my free ebook. Please commit to caring for yourself.
6mths??.... nobody is over grieving after 6months!....
Hi Ronan: thank you for writing. I agree that no one is over grieving. However the intense shock, denial, anger, bargaining, and guilt for most will be less disturbing for the most part. We can grieve a loved one our entire life, missing them and wanting them back. However, usually by six months one has begun to regain their functioning and ability Complicated grief defines the experience when one is acutely suffering for longer than six months and are unable to cope with the loss. I appreciate you commenting.
You will grieve forever. It's like a death in the family only I feel it's worse because it's ongoing. I lost my Dad when I was young and one of my estranged children had cancer which was cured. But the pain of estrangement fromown children is a pain that I would not wish on anybody and has changed me. Lost confidence selfesteem and deep depression. In saying that everyone goes through it differently. I am fortunate I have a good family and friends who have always been there and are not judgemental.
6 months? You obviously have never felt estrangement from an adult child, and also the loss of beautiful grandchildren that you loved with all your heart. It’s an insidious grief, you want to feel better but you are frozen, and there is no resolution. You have no idea, unless you have walked in our shoes.
@@Kate-wc1fo totally agree with you Kate. It's. It's been 41/2 years of torture. Thinking of you.💕
@@Kate-wc1fo right on. I know no one who could heal after six months
You can feel like life isn’t worth living.
Dear Lab: I'm so sorry you are going through this. I hope you have someone to support you. Please let me know how you're doing. Warmly, Marie
That is more true than anything, no one can deal with this
Anyway there is no comment from you but it helps me
Wow, that last comment sucks! I’ve been in both situations. I was estranged for 7years from both my severely mentally I’ll parents. My father was rapid cycling manic depressive, in & out of mental hospitals since I was 7 yrs old. My mother was severely sexually abused by her pedophile father and had multiple personality disorder. I was sexually abused by him as early as I can remember and was called, Grandpas girl. Assigned his, so ai too have dissociative disorder. My mom blamed me for upsetting my father and said I caused him to get sick and go manic and end up in the psych hospital. I took a time out from my parents on my therapy. It helped me realize I was not to fault for my fathers illness. I also hurt both my parents by estranging from them for so long. I know they were very toxic to me. Yet when I reconciled I was glad I did and really regretted not having been able to spend more time with them after they have died. I see the serious and very challenging mental illnesses they were struggling with from a more compassionate view now. And I feel I’m getting my bad karma because my daughter now 49 is in an abusive domestic violence relationship and is defensive and protecting her relationship and will not talk to me. She has influenced my two adult granddaughters not to talk to me either. I’ve done everything I can to be here, to be open, to help. But I keep failing to reconnect with them. I am still in counseling twice a month and have been for 38 years for my difficult childhood and mental diagnosis from hit. I’m 68. And will likely be in therapy all my life, until I’m in a nursing home chewing on my socks:) anyway. I do a lot to help myself. I work pt at a school district so enjoy being with kids in school year & parents teachers and coworkers. I also go to 12 step meetings weekly, exercise every three days with my good friend at YMCA, say hello to my neighbors on daily walks, call family & friends regularly, read and keep up with current events. When I retire I’ll go to senior center activities. My daughter & grands live close by. I think of selling my house and moving away or buying a mobile home and driving around to the national parks in the USA or moving to Portugal or maybe New Zealand. There are lots of options. I can just go about my life and pretend they have moved on to some other life plane or planet. Picture them living peacefully somewhere in quiet and solitude, writing a novel somewhere engrossed in their work. I am doing my best to detach with love as if they are alcoholics. Praying to my higher power for wisdom. Letting go and letting god and saying the Serenity prayer. That’s my life story so far. Hope it helps somebody in similar situation.
Hi Jennie: Thank you for commenting and sharing your story. I am so grateful for how far you have come. You're actively involved in your well-being, seeing a therapist, staying social, wishing your daughter and grandchildren well, and moving forward with excellent practices. If there was one thing you would pass on to those who have estranged from toxic/abusive family what would it be? Also, how did you get to this place that you can detach with love? thank you so much for joining the conversation here. Warmly, Marie
@@youtubemariemorinestrangement Two thingsI would recommend. Find a reliable counselor who will treat you long term for the grief from the estrangement. It is definitely a release/ pressure release valve for me to freely express my thoughts and emotions. For me it’s very toxic to hold all that in, all by myself.
Two: Find a support group, I like Alanon, but even an exercise group, yoga group where you often see the same people once a week, just to be with others. For me it helps me feel like I am welcome and that I belong with others, that I am acceptable to others and allowed to be myself, which is ok 👌
These two things are best for me. Thanks for validating and for asking me:)
Oh, how do I detach with love. It’s a practice taught within the Alanon and 12 Step programs. It takes practice. I often say the Serenity Prayer and ask my higher power for help to detach, if I’m angry or hurt, take time to write it down on paper with the goal of stepping back, taking on a new perspective and searching my heart for the true love I do have for my daughter and granddaughters. Realize they have much to process that our family history is so very complex and full of trauma. Look for compassion in my heart for them, write in my journal a love letter for them to find someday. Try to extend myself & be flexible, try to stretch myself emotionally so I don’t succumb to being rigid. Really try to act in a positive light. If I get the chance to see them, just say, yep, yep, um hum, um hum. Try to take it in and understand. This helps me and just to remind myself with the words”detach with love.”
Hi Jennie: I so appreciate your sharing your process of moving forward. Would it be o.k. if I shared it with others? I am so grateful you joined in on the conversation.
Do you have a video like this, to assist with the adult child's complicated grief?
My son wants nothing to do with me this helped a little its been a week so far.Hes blocked me on all accounts.Mu heart is broken completely don't know how I can get through this.
Well it’s terrifying I it feels like dying to be honest but then you got to be a warrior and take care of yourself do not feel guilty my kid is 22 my daughter my only daughter she is my only child I called her a monster tell your kid how you feel because it is wrong to voluntarily hurt your parent knowing that my life is tough hard in fact loneliness no friends in Paris I also have ptsd and issues of abandonment I have a narcissistic mum and my mum is acting like a mother to my daughter this is a top it all she is staying at her grandma coz her work is in Israel and she telling me that she is going to move there after her master next April so she freaking abandonned me my daughter iam angry you got to be heartless and have some narcissistic traits to do that you got to show your anger and communicate how much this hurts you I mean these kids are ungrateful and hurtful and it isn’t right people commit suicide I understand why they don’t want to live anymore they lost their kid
Your mother isn't helping her. She is brainwashing her against you even more, and probably been doing this for years. Cut off all contact permanently with them so you can peacefully grieve. You will never heal. There is no closure. You just slowly learn how to navigate through life with the pain. Good luck! ❤❤
I think it is morally wrong to disrespect your mother or vice versa I think it is mortally wrong for a mother a single mom who devoted her life to her daughter and the daughter disrespect the mother and cut ties knowing that her mother is sad and alone you can give all your great advises but we mothers of daughter who cut contact with us are broken hearted and beyond we develop more stress we have panic attacks we are completely alone facing a wall of rejection it is terrifying my god I hope my daughter is just having a break from me she is 22
I hope it’s just a short break.
I’m sorry you’re going through this. I know it’s incredibly hurtful. Please be around those who love and value you. Be compassionate with your self.
Why is it always the parent's fault?
adults are not children. they are offspring. and are we talking about those who are CUT OFF, or those who DID the cutting off? this was worded deceitfully, which is typical abuser behavior.
when your offspring leave you alone, it's almost always because you didn't listen. they told you what was wrong and now you think pretending not to know will save you. nope. it will just ensure you never see them or your grandchildren again. go ahead and chose your ego over your own flesh and blood. they are happier without you, smiling, content in a way they aren't willing to give up anyway.
:)
I know if a particular circumstance where the adult child suffers from a personality disorder. It’s not always the parent being rigid and unwilling.
@@gailcarey3597 hence my use of the phrase "almost always", my dear. remember: if someone tells you there's a problem and you respond my stating that it's not alllllways the problem.. then you are part of the problem. and you will never see your grandchildren again.
:)
Facts!! Most of the time it’s the parents fault
What a generalised statement. Outside influences can cause estrangement as well as lies. It's usually a partner who is insecure has mental issues and is jealous of the relationship with the parents especially the Mum. I had 2 estranged sons. One has come back to us because he now knows the truth which he found out all by himself. My other son has cut him off because of his partner. My on off estranged son will call me only when his partner is not around. We love him so much and can see he is struggling but have never once said a derogatory remarks about her. She comes from a very dysfunctional family and estrangement is quite normal for her family. We were very close and so were my two sons. That has now been destroyed. We will not interfere and hopefully they can have a relationship again. Not always the parent fault. It has nothing to do with ego. It's called love and letting them go and hopefully they will come back.
Obviously you have nothing better to do than troll videos not for you! How many kids have you raised and gone through their estrangement? Clearly you think I'm black and white so I'm guessing you're one of the abusive children who are not yet adults. Adults talk, mine chose not to, they chose to lie and continue to hide their alcoholism and anger and never got over the abandonment of their father. Maybe one day when you all grow up, you'll realize that parents are human, and that simply becoming silent and using grandchildren as weapons are not adult behavior.
You must not have children.
Hi Cynthia
I do have children and grandchildren.
Hi dear Morin well I feel of if these you mentioned about I am estranged by my 22 year old she did not wished me a happy Mother’s Day she has been abusive to me for seven years now she is a narcissist cold detached lack of empathy iam enraged I hate the feelings she brings out of me yesterday she was you okay on WhatsApp or she liked my new pictures then she wrote tomorrow is Mother’s Day and the day after I sa her online and she did not wish me a happy Mother’s Day I hated her for that it drove me mad I fact I blocked her but before I blocked I called her a monster a selfish young woman how dare she abuses me manipulates me like that I called her a b….tch iam hurt disoriented I feel a hole inside my heart iam single she is abroad at my narcissistic mum she brainwashed her brain too I blocked them both I blocked my daughter because she cannot doesn’t want to have a healthy talk with me and she doesn’t return my love 22 years of my life for nothing gone i have qnd feel so much hatred disgust against her iam so hurt I feel lonely depressed empty she doesn’t want me near her or in her life in France the 4 th of bay is Mother’s Day if you live your mom you call your mom but nope she did not I feel a sense of shame