It's everybody's lucky day. A former ATT employee just posted a PHENOMENAL full tour of one of these bunkers, and it is indeed incredible. It's on UA-cam.
Ron From Atlas Survivol shelters just posted a tour of a AT&T bunker on his UA-cam page. They are huge. I have seen other videos in the past on these as well
I worked at a surface AA&T TD-2 (4 GHz) microwave site 1970 thru 1977....Excellent training using Unbelievable $$ High quality Bell Labs/Western Electric test equipment....This was all Planar Triode vacuum Tube technology using Silver Plated/Copper tuned Cavity resonators routinely Hand tuned to achieve sweep 20 MHz, 0.2 dBm Bandwidth flat, 4 GHz FM at required S/N rf power level....Challenging precision work Environment for this at time 20 yr old !! .....Lots of memories keeping good Agc in all weather conditions.....
That is pretty exciting sounding! Thanks for sharing the details here & feel free to read through the comments many other Bell employees have shown up in this comment section for this video, I am just soaking in the details and learning! PS One side of my family had 3 Bell employees, but only as 2 operators and 1 lineman, Thanks for watching!
Interesting Tom, I started in 1970 and worked several MW Relay sites in Oklahoma. We had portable tower/antenna systems to go back up with after a nuclear exchange to restore critical circuits.
That equipment is part of a Number 5 Crossbar electromechanical Bell system switch/exchange. I’m confident that wasn’t RAM this system predated that. I didn’t see any microwave longlines transmission equipment that would have been used in ATT long lines. I’m pretty sure this is just a switch. The actual longlines microwave sites had to have massive ventilation ducts. Those would have been massive pits like at a minimum of 20 feet by 20 feet wide. It would suck in air and it would go to an evaporator cooler and dissipate heat with big round baffles that could close if the air were to become contaminated with radiation. Another thing to look for is the presence of waveguides, rectangular copper ducts that would go in and out of the building. That picture you showed of the cylindrical concrete thing with a small dome on it was a gamma ray detector that were present at those sites - if it had that it would have been highly likely that it would of been some kind of long lines site. The picture you showed of the tower with horns on it were definitely from a microwave relay site. The tower shown in the video definitely had contemporary cell tower comms. The source material of your research was pretty interesting. This infrastructure is fascinating.
Also check out Seattle connections museum - they have one of the last working number 5 crossbar switches that they maintain for the sake of exhibiting this technology.
Hmmm very interesting! Thanks for the comment and for watching! So the 256 magnetic core RAM was actually invented for the SAGE system and Montauk was one of the very first SAGE sites and even took part in ESS Experimental SAGE System and Cape Cod System, the very beginnings of the internet in 1955 actually it all traces back to SAGE. Anyways this Longlines site Montauk is on the Longlines location maps, and is in all the military historical records as TELCO, ATT building and definitely had a TD-5 Microwave relay with horns atop that tower, I have old pics before they were de-horned. This site is very unique as it received data from across the base, from the AN/FSQ-7 in the SAGE Annex and then sent the data along to the Direction Center. I can not figure out where the power source was, each redundant system had commercial power, and generators, and a fallout shelter (which explains the part of the building we can not access) and there were 2 power plants on base, 1 coal and 1 diesel, and I can not tell if this is connected to them, also, part of this building was tied to GATR ground to air radio as well. Half my family worked for ma Bell and they have no clue, and Bell had many other responsibilities at this site, such as ALRI, and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to Texas towers #3 in the ocean, it's very interesting and everyones information is really helping to figure it out! Thanks again!
Back when American Telephone & Telegraph Company was a monopoly, there was always plenty of money available to build these unbelievably expensive microwave repeater stations every 30 miles from North to South and East to West. Since AT&T Long Lines carried ALL U.S. Government communications along with ALL military circuits including radar, the Federal Government was more than happy to pay their monthly “phone” bill. Unfortunately, the AT&T company that most of us are familiar with today is NOTHING like the Long Lines division that I worked for. What is shown in this video is a testament to the genius that existed back in the 60’s, 70’s, of the company. With the advent of the Laser from Bell Labs and the invaluable assistance of Corning Glass Works, the way we communicate around the country and around the world has changed forever.
Hey Brian! I remember Preston mentioning antenna's that just laid ON the ground. He chuckeled a bit when he said it and added that they often worked better than the other's! Have you been able to locate any of those as of yet? When I heard him say that, it brought to my mind something I had seen on the w a y back machine - back in the day (allegedly) before radar and such when prop planes were "modern" they set up a system for pilots to navigate manually. It was literally h u g e "arrows" laid out ON the ground set up so the pilots could just look out their windows and find the direction of whatever nearby city. They said these things were all across the country! The video I saw this on packaged that as a part of forgotten about history. 🤔 Makes me wonder if its related?!! Considering Teslas works, this makes a LOT of sense! Coincidentally 🙄 today Ive learned the museum of his works violently burned to the ground. That makes me soooo angry! (Insert SURPURLATIVES here) Brian I cannot thank you enough for all the fantastic and outstanding work you do!! I ABSOLUTELY love your painstaking attention to detail!! Well done!!
Hello Angel! Thanks for the awesome comment! No I have not heard of that but now that you mentioned it I am definitely very curious about the idea! Yes it does remind me of Tesla in the sense that the antennae would be on the ground, perpendicular to what we would normally see... very cool! Thanks for the feedback too! That always encourages me and gives me inspiration for sure! As far the Tesla Science Center / Tesla's former Wardenclyffe Lab and site of the free energy tower - the fire was devastating to us all! I heard the next AM and have passed it several times since to check the damage. I did promise an update and the best news I read is that not all was lost and they are very positive and hopeful about continuing on with the museum! Thanks again Angel, always great to hear your thoughts & have a great weekend!
The large arrows on the ground you mentioned are part of the FAA's very old "Visual Airway System." It consisted of large concrete arrows that, at the time, were painted for visibility against the contrast of the terrain. In addition to the arrows, there were also light towers in order to be able to use the system at night. In some parts of the US (particularly Montana) the Visual Airway System was maintained into the 1990's. I've been an airline pilot since 1989. I used to enjoy watching the lights from the VAS when flying over Montana at night during the '90's. But technology marches ever forward, and navigation aids like the VAS, NDB's, etc are all relics of the past now.
The site you got video of is just a TD-2 microwave site. No bunker underground there. The bunkers had massive ventilation pits for the gigantic HVAC systems and to supply the very large diesel generators. In the early 90’s I did “tear out” work in these sites, removing old obsolete equipment. The 2 bunkers I spent the most time in were Ellisville, Florida and Windermere, Florida (Orlando metro). This is the address for Ellisville: 3050 SE County Road 18 Lake City, FL 32025 United States THAT is what a bunker looks like (note: this one had an external building addition done about 20 years ago. It’s no longer fully underground).
Thanks for the info and for checking it out! Yes I am going to make an updated video to correct myself: A.) I did find in the History of the 773rd radar Squadron Historical records obtained by FOIA, I saw that these was a TD-2 tower, and actually found a picture of the tower with the horns, and I noticed there were 2 instead of 4, does the name have anything to do with the amount of horns? B.) A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine was the first to point out there is no CoAxial hub / Bunker below, but there is a Air Force cold war Fallout shelter below this building, which was guarded by State police officer for decades who lived in this building when it was a state park. He actually arrested us for trespassing in the state the park. I suppose that is why I can not access that one part of the building. On top of that I found some very interesting duties, different than most LongLines sites: they handled Fine Grain Video Processing to receive the radar data from the FST-2 computer, a super large vacuum tube computer in the Ops building across site, and then the TD-2 would send the SAGE radar data off to the Direction Center via the Skyway! Bell techs also ran the ALRI and Tropospheric scatter on site, and there were phone switch / hub's in 4 of the buildings on base. I am still trying to figure it all out. Thank You again for the comment!
@@montaukisstrange, "TD-2" is the name / specification for the microwave radio signals handled at the facility; it has nothing to do with the number of horn antennas. "TD-2" was preceded by "TD" and followed by "TH" in terms of development history. This was all analog radio, first using vacuum tubes and later some solid-state components. The system employed frequency division multiplexing providing hundreds of voice channels (or a couple of television signals) within each broadband signal. Western Electric was able to double the capacity by implementing vertical and horizonal polarization of the radio signals. In the mid-70s they successfully started using single sideband (SSB) sending two different signals on each of the two bands (upper and lower) simultaneously. In terms of number of horns, a tower near where I grew up in Upstate New York had seven horns. It was a 3-way junction, 2 horns heading to Buffalo, Albany, and Pittsburgh, respectively. The 7th horn branched off the serve a local Class 4 Toll Tandem.
I use to hang out on top of an old long lines site in CT. The same old maintenance worker use to kick me and my buddies off the tower platform, but was always super cool about it. This was way back in the late 90's when they still had the giant Western Electric horn antennas. There was a time for about 15 years when a lot of them sat dormant, eventually being sold to the big tower company that removed the horn antennas to make room for cellular equipment.
You had mentioned you were working on this before, and I had always wondered about these buildings. My grandmother worked for Southern Bell in an imposing tower with the microwave antennas on the top. Now I know why they were built like bunkers. You're very thorough in documenting this with excellent photos. How about those boxes of Converse?! If Ma Bell was so important to defense and communications it makes you wonder why congress deregulated the phone companies in the 80's.
Hey Ryan thanks for that article! Yeah the Converse were quite a shock to see, at least they would be down there surviving in style! Yeah it was cool to find out how fiber optics came and blew the microwave relay system out of the water in the early 80's, i remember they deregulated everything around that time, interesting! Thanks for the awesome comment and for sharing that!
@@montaukisstrange Yes that was the plan. They even went to schools with a demo fiber optic cable bundle to show kids how it worked. My mom's last job with the phone company was drafting jobs to install it. They installed the fiber networks only to be dissolved so other companies could continue to profit off of AT&T's and Bells' work.
the "deregulation was mandated by Judge Harold Greene in 1982 per a lawsuit by the 12 or 13 major "RBOCS" - Regional Bell Operating Companies - (NY Bell, New England bell, Southern bell, Chesapeake and Potomac, Ohio Bell, etc.) against the "monopoly - AT&T. ...The RBOCS wanted to purchase equipment from manufacturers other than - "Western Electric" - AT&T's manufacturing division. AT&T's position was - other manufacturers equipment wouldn't be compatible & would compromise the system, (viewed in the 1940's to 1980's as a "Strategic national defense Network" . AT&T lost the lawsuit. it had a 10 year period after 1985 that it had to divest itself from Western Electric - - the ruling : an "operating company" (ie: AT&T) could not be a "operating AND a Manufacturing company.... which created the spin-off of Lucent Technologies from AT&T in 1996. after the ruling, the RBOCs began purchasing / integrating equipment from other manufacturers. another implication of the lawsuit was many of the independent RBOCS merged together to create mini monopolies, ie Bell Atlantic accreted several RBOCS -( c&p, nj bell, bell of philly, ny bell, ne bell) - subsequentially, bell Atlantic became Verizon.
The de-regulation was only of the Bell System. Nobody challenged AT&T Long Lines until MCI came along. At that point you had a choice for your long distance carrier.
They could hear a pin drop! The fiber Optics tried to outdo the Microwave and CoAx..and they did, but the tried and true still remain, and are our redundant back ups! Honestly I wish these were kept up to date, everyone wants to tour an underground building! Its a no brainer imo, but maybe thats just people like us! Nevertheless I stand by this notion haha Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange The 'pin drop' was from Sprint. As far as Coax, yes it is still used, but short haul for the most part. Microwave, although digital now, still has bandwidth and distance limits that are no where near what is required in today's communications arena. The speeds of today's pluggable optics are unreal, and things can be tuned for different colors or NM and filtered through optic multiplexers. My old company was using pluggable 400g optics that inserted directly into router cards and were good for 80km. (50 miles) Start running things through the DWDM regenerators, with RAMAN amplifiers, a dispersion compensation, you are into the terabytes over a single pair. there are bi-directional systems, the the fiber cable densities are now ribbon, and outside plant cables were in the 3400 range. The last 20 years has been unbelievable, (Oh yeah,,30yrs MCI, then 12 years Time Warner/Charter)
Very well done Brian and I've told you before I've seen a couple in southern Ontario, and your map you displayed at the beginning of your video I paused and the sites I've seen where shown in your map and there's one very near shown on your map with a road named Termaine I'm 10 minutes from that one and there similar to the one's that you posted I'lll try and take some photo's of them for comparison possible and now I just got a DJI Mini 3 pro drone and they are on sale before Christmas so my wife got me one after my surgery and made for a great gift for my Birthday Thank you for the video it's got my wheels turning after seeing your map showing spots in Ontario also!
Yes you have! I have talked about making this for a whole now, aI figured it would be a good video to get back into the swing of things with. The drone is an amazing idea for you! I hope you can "get out there" to some degree with the drone and get some exploring in any way you can! Thanks Gavin always appreciate the comment and you watching!
Bro, you got to get to the communications Museum in Seattle Washington. They have all working switching equipment from the 1800s to the 1990s for visitors to play with!!!! It’s so cool!!!! They’re only open on Sundays though! So plan accordingly!
I have some pictures and videos of a few in CT. I can try and grab some fresh videos of one of the bigger ones we have. The bunker is completely flooded, the water is crystal clear and stagnant, you cant tell there is water there until you start to walk down and get your feet wet. Lots of old equipment still exists within some of them. Very cool pieces of history we have.
@giovannivincent6599 Hey thats awesome! Thanks for watching, and for sharing! Wow yeah that sounds like the radar tower at Montauk, I tied a glow stick to a rock and threw it down in the flooded basement a few videos back, and it got hung up on the ledge. Going to go back with underwater camera and selfie stick and try to film with some kind of underwater flashlight, it should be an 18' basement as I have real estate pics from an identical tower... 1 of 24 built the same. Anyways If you did get footage be sure to come back and let me know, and you can drop thelink here because a lot of Bell AT&T techs are showing up which could probably answer any other questions about these sites! I only know this one because Montauk, Camp Hero, Montauk Air Force Station, is my specialty! But i pretty much explore everything on Long Island. I would love to see any footage of these sites. Thanks again for the info!
Very cool vid. We have an old Microwave tower and building like that on top of a hill about 35 minute drive from my house in Georgia. It seems to have been sold off and is a private commercial property now. I thought the microwave communication towers were mostly N.S. railway, at least down here, they used their own microwave phone system long after cell phones became a thing.
Hey yes I was definitely looking for a Gamma ray detector, I saw a picture of one and realized I see one all the time when I pass by Grummans F-14 factory aka Naval weapons plant, That and I was looking for a breathing vent for an underground, but just found out this site may have no COAX so maybe just a shelter down there, if anything. Thanks for watching!
I just realized the Gamma ray detector you meant is in the front of the vent I was talking about at 12:10 the air vent is flush with the ground and is circular, and is behind the fence. Thanks for helping me figure this out!
Excellent!! There may have been an installation like this sans tower in Piscataway NJ in the 70s. A small white painted cinder block building with a bunch of underground cable markers surrounding it. A friend who’s Dad worked for AT&T Long Lines said it was an entrance to an underground Telco facility. The building was much smaller than the one here.
Great video! Takes me back to being stationed in Germany in the Army 1972 - 73 at a combined Army Air Force communication site. The Air Force guys had a big microwave tower with the old-style feed horns from back in the day. I was Army signal Corps on the other side of the fence, a completely mobile communications site working out of 45 foot trailers and many small equipment huts mounted on 2 1/2 ton trucks. Look forward to watching more of your videos!
Wow That is awesome, great comment Thanks I appreciate you watching as well! Yes thats very interesting, I have had to study many of the Signal Corps equipment placement at Montauk like the Search Lights, AntiAircraft positions, BES, BC, and FC stations, and the entire coastal defense artillery's communications cable runs were everywhere, so much cable and so many phone lines! I am still trying to figure out where the Signal Operations Room would be at Montauk, but it is fascinating trying to learn how everything works. Anyways, I am hoping like minded folks can share and talk with each other here, if they wanted. Anyways Thanks again!
no stair case or elevator there, the racks would be under ground, there would be ventilation shaft blast detectors, that building doesn't even have a filtration intake on roof you found at manned hardened sites
Yes Thank You I have since been corrected by several ex Bell employees, and I realize now there is no CoAx bunker, but there are many unique features as this was also a part of SAGE and this is on a former Air Force radar base, also there was a fallout shelter as I found it in the base records, but i was wrong about the AT&T longlines bunkers that I showed examples of, but hey I love to learn and this is fascinating! My main interest is in this base, but I try to understand all of the structures and the tech behind them. I appreciate your info and thanks for watching!
Any security or police i would be saying, this is your planet, you family, you friends your life too, don't you want the truth, you are a human being before anything else! Stand up for that.❤.
Yes, there were a few occasions we tried to reason with them, other times we just escaped to explore another day, but you are right - the right diplomacy can definitely change one mind at a time if done thoughtfully. Even planting a seed / an idea, can grow into a changed mind! Thanks again Megs for watching & sharing your thoughts on this!
the "computer room" looks to be the relay bays for a 1A electronic switch or #5 crossbar and the test switchboard. the circuit cards were probably resistor packs not ram -to the right is the circuit distribution frame. .. local circuits would be "peeled-off' of the microwave td2y carrier for local service (the microwave system was retired around 1990/92 , the antenna feed horns would have sat atop the red/white tower-shown at 11:44... I don't see any of the microwave waveguide or the RF receivers / amplifiers in your photos of the 'computer room'.... any equipment in earthquake zones or underground would have been mounted on springs - seen at 19:04 & 19:27.
Thanks for all the details! Yes I have since found out from the telephone museum in Maine that there was no CoAxial bunker at this site, or even the others in this video. I will correct all future details going forward. The Bomb shelter I was referring to is an Air Force fallout shelter built in 1961, that has one on record in this building but I can not access that part, and neither can the parks people apparently. This building was built in 1955 and supported the Transmitter and Receiver sites and would receive data from the FSQ-7 data transmitter across base (This is on a military base that was closed in 1981) also it is very unique as far as Longlines sites, because it was part of a SAGE radar site (Semi Automatic Ground Environment) and they had been hooked into the Whirlwind computer as MIT had their own building on site to test the Cape Cod System and ESS. Then they had the BUIC computer and later BUIC II and BUIC III. Also Bell labs technicians were on site in 1962 to run the ALRI (one of 4 sites on east coast to talk to the Lockheed EC121) and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to the Texas Towers #3. I got all this info from FOIA and military documents from the veterans of the 773RD radar squadron, which this AT&T building was a part of. I do not think they served the public at all. The tower was de-horned in 1969. I have a lot of history but you definitely gave me a lot of technology to look up! Thanks! I am doing my best to understand it. The fallout facilities are most likely small, they built about 6 of them on base, between 1961-1963. Do you think this equipment had a power source in the building (generators etc)? or do you think they would have been tied into one of the power plants on base? Either way I appreciate you watching & your very helpful comment!
Some cool stuff. I live near the horn tower in Norwalk Ct. The horns are gone but the tower has been a local landmark forever. Next time I go by the area I should look for traces of other structures... and perhaps aerial shots might show construction, because they were taken about every 10 years since the 1930s.
Hey Rupe I think that sounds like a great idea! I did not know they preserved the horns in Norwalk, I just had a friend send me pics of the Asheville NC tower and they preserved it in the center of town, with additional tower constructed around it to protect it. This one I show at Montauk was de-horned sometime in the early 1980s. Good luck in your local searches, I always use the old aerials to find out a ton of info at Montauk, Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange As I said, the horns are gone circa the cell phone push, but the tower is there. I was told it's over 300 ft tall. My sister does cell phone tower site research for installations on old churches, and existing structures, like water towers. She has access to many historical web sites regarding each location. She's also a history buff so certain details are her thing in her mind.
@@rupe53 That's awesome! Yeah it is surprising, but it seems in many cases poor records were kept of historic infrastructure. It sounds like a pretty cool job for sure! I would love to have access to those kind of data searches / history sites! I am definitely interested the technology as well as the infrastructure below.
@@montaukisstrange she has been doing this job for many years, so much of it is out there to be had or bookmarked once you find it. Quite a bit is like reading old property deeds, where the boarder is Smith on one side and Jones on the other... but then you stumble on tid-bits of good stuff where the property had one use and got changed to another. Knowing the town's history can play a role in figuring things out at a given time. We've got transmitters on a property locally, but looking closer shows a round building, which originally had a radar dish on the roof for early warning of air strikes. If you piece it together, it's also the highest point in town, which is still an advantage even though it's 12 miles from the coast. Yup, another piece of cold war technology. Searching the FCC licensees on that tower says town govt and cell phones, but searching back also shows an FM station, an AM station, and various other uses. A friend says that back in the day of "daytime only" use kids would climb the tower at night to view NYC some 50 miles away.
@@rupe53 Oh man, all I have to say is, i have not been around as much because I have been writing voraciously to finish this book about Camp Hero I have been writing for 4 years and hoping to print next month, and by the way you describe your sources, are almost identical to the way I like to completely absorb every resource available! ha I hope to see you guys again then, I'm interested in what you both find also, the kind of minds that could help me with certain mysteries and mostly I just like to share what I found. Good stuff!
Helloo Montauk Is Strange watching the video I was wondering if you happened to peek behind those pictures on the wall at the staircase ? The pictures on the wall did you happen to look behind any of them? Just wondering.. thank you for the video..
Heloooo Susie! Thanks for checking out the video! I did not get to check them because I used those as an example from similar facilities, but could not get underground here. They are all built similarly though. Now onto your picture idea - That is brilliant! I will probably look behind every picture I find now! 🔍lol but seriously, I just might! 😁
It’s impossible but I’ve always wanted a microwave horn as a souvenir when Bell Canada took some of there’s down from a tower close to where I live. They’ve been up there ever since I can remember. I used to see the tower from a distance then we moved closer to it and I was able to see it better. It was the only one of its kind that had those horns. From Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
There's a movie on channel white phosphorus picture that I am watching right now, that I have seen before, but I started watching at the middle of it (from my best reckoning), and Mr. Bielek, as well as another obvious New Yorker (apparently an intellectual prodigy), who took part in both the Philadelphia experiment, and the Montauk youth torture disguised as experimental work, that was a direct insult to humanity.
This site seems very suspicious! I wonder if it was one of the rumored "Unlisted" Autovon or Echofox Top-Secret locations? Because there's no reason a guard should have lived there after 1992, when the program was decommissioned ??😮
i worked at AT&T/Bell Labs Lucent in 90's have been to 2 facilities like you describe one in NWNJ now owned by Iron Mountain logistics a 5 story underground facility its sole purpose was to protect phone system during nuclear attack the one here was built because of proximity to Picatinny Arsenal
Hey Dude Oh man thats awesome! Yeah I have seen a lot of re-purposing as Server centers, or even seed banks. I just found out Montauk did not have the Coax bunker, but was unique in that it was a part of the SAGE radar system on this Air Force Base and used the TD5 microwave repeater to transmit data to the direction centers, and other Bell technicians ran the aALRI site here, as well as the Tropspheric Scatter antennae and building, that communicated with the Texas Towers. I am slowly learning the old tech. Very cool Thanks for watching & the comment!
Camp Hero is one VERY strange place... For a place that is no longer in service, WHY do they have huge amounts of elec going into a tiny house? They also have a brand new imtercom system at the front gate with a camera on it.
Hey Agreed 100% & Thanks for watching! Yes I have a video where we started pressing the buttons only moments before a parks police car came past. Actually that gate is not far from the building in this video. Thanks for the comment!
I remember an interview with Al Bielek & Preston Nichols on Art Bell back in the day claiming wild conspiracy theories about this place and mind control and the Philadelphia experiment.
You should do a little more research. The majority of AT&T facilities did not have underground bunkers. The buildings you are looking at are primarily above ground, they don't have underground sections. The larger buildings were hardened but had no underground bunkers. The give away for the majority of the bunkers was usually a microwave tower on a hill or mound, sometimes surrounded with a fence with one or two small buildings. If you looked around the site you would probably see a gamma detector, exhaust pipes for the generators and vents for air circulation. It usually consisted of a multi-bay garage and a small building with an overhead garage door. This building was the access to the shaft with a hoist to move heavy equipment. There were probable around 100 bunkers of varying design.
Thank You, It is not my specialty but I am learning as best I can...but this facility is much different than your average Longlines site. It most definitely has an underground bomb shelter and I found that in the official military historical records from a FOIA request done by one of the Veterans of the 773rd Radar squadron with those details. Furthermore, this building was used as part of the SAGE system which received the FSQ-7 date transmission, from the SAGE Annex across base, and forwarded on to the direction center with the TD-5 microwave relay. I was looking for the bunkers I showed in this video which were the coaxial hub I am guessing? A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine already pointed out that there are few of those, and the nearest in Hempstead, which used to be Queens long ago, this site is about 100 miles from there. I assumed there was a coax hub (bunker) in every single facilty, but I stand corrected and will no longer pass on any such info, knowing that is not the case, I prefer to know what is really down there. Anyways Bell employees were all over this base, running the ALRI, worked in the GATR Transmit & Receive buildings, and ran the Tropospheric scatter antenna to comminicate with Texas Towers 3. In WWII the Army had the Signal Corps, but when the Air Force came in, the used Bell for the communications on base. Either way I appreciate the info, and will correct my details going forward but definitely cant change this one, not to mention, no one else has ever been allowed to film inside this building and we faced arrest every time we went to explore back then. Thanks! I never knew so many former Bell employees would gather here! I enjoy all the info, and learning!
Hey Thanks, I think you mean the Riverhead site right? Or maybe you meant the mini dome on top of the AN/FPS-26 Tower? (that was the metal tower painted in in Day Orange) This was an Air Force base, but NOAA may have operated that small dome on the roof next to the main Radome - because the color day orange is a NOAA color if I remember correctly. The 4 Radomes at Montauk were AN/FPS-3 (long range search radar), AN/FPS-5 (Height Finder) all microwave, and then replaced with a pair of AN/FPS 6 HF and then the 3 was replaced with one of the first AN/FPS-20s Long Range Search Radar. I thought the riverhead site was a Doppler! Thanks for the comment
Hey Bugs! Yeah I recently saw Two pretty close together off the LIE somewhere around Huntington area... It's amazing how many of these there are across the country on that first map I showed. Then to start thinking about how much money went into it all! Thanks for checking it out!
Where we lived in West VIrginia, near Charlestown (not Charleston) you could see a place we called the "Bald Spot On The Mountain". My Dad asked a guy he knew that worked at Weather Mountain, Va and his comment was, don't ask. I suspect it was one of these...
Oh wow sounds interesting! Did it have a big steel tower nearby? Some seem to have been converted into TV towers, and even cell towers, but otherwise I know Va. has quite a lot of cool underground spots. Thanks for checking it out & the comment!
I have to Ask, My Grandfather, Was a AT&T prior Employee.. Obvious worked In these Types Of Places.. He got Parkinson's..Some Say it Was From the Korea Theater.. But, Is there Any Chance any Of this Stuff Could Have Caused Parkinson's Disease.. Believe Me, the Words Impossible Have Left my Vocabulary YEARS AGO.. I Just Want To Follow His Path,... Bec. My Knowledge of What he Was Involved With is Very Limited, Obviously..! ... Reality is, I Dont Think Anybody Is Directly Related To Misunderstood things.. I Have Had My Fair Share of Asbestos From Construction All My Life.. and im just Interested. So We Dont Make The Same Mistakes a Second Time,.. GBS Alfred Wood!! U.S. Army Korea War Vet. TF 95.
Thanks for sharing about your Grandfather, thats cool you keep his memory alive! Personally, I am not sure but I do Not think it would be from any AT&T related activities, and any theater of war has many hidden things that show up years later... Personally I can't speak for anyone, many of my family were Army, or AT&T as well. I just do not want to give you any incorrect info on something so personal but I do appreciate you asking and maybe this is the right place to find an answer from someone else as well!
Surly must be places like this . We should ask the chinese balloon. 😊 Thanks for sharing did not know anything about this exept for what mike has shared . And he sent me over to your channel .
😂Indeed! Hey SouthernGrits!! gtsy here! I recognize you from Mike's channel, since the first day I have been there. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out! Much appreciated, enjoy the day : )
the way into most of the underground is in the Montauk townhall underground and the building near it. One method is to provide leases that will last 50 years as more of these older pale people start to die off with structures with plot and lot number history that is murky often a new company will spring up and take the place of the former.
Hey Thanks Knighthawks! Yeah I suppose, I made friends with him when we were both on the same TV show on Travel channel, then again another show on CW it turns out he is one of those kids who use to ride his bike into Camp Hero as a kid just after it closed for good, and truly believes he was involved as well, he is a Montauk local and he was just about to retire so I could not show it for a little while... but yeah it took the right timing to seize the opportunity, and I did not want to miss the chance! I would love to get permission again, it does not hurt to ask, but I do not think the next person in line will be as sympathetic to the idea! Thanks again man for the feedback - much appreciated!
Ah wow what a great opportunity. Great vid very informative! I gotta take the ride out there to explroe more now that ticks and traffic are gone @@montaukisstrange
After you opened the hatch you pointed to a door .any reason why you couldn’t open that door to see if it led to a stair or elevator ? Does the fact that the log book had entry dates up until 1982 mean anything regarding the overall operation of the base ? I forget when they supposedly closed the base !Amazing history Awesome !
Hey George! Yeah i asked if we could get into that door but he never had the key, he said none of them did! Same thing for the apmt entrance on the other side. The dates pretty much line up perfectly. The radar was replaced with the Riverhead radome in 81, the base was abandoned in 83, but they started scaling down in 82, a few people stayed at the GATR building until early 84. Thank You for watching glad you liked!
Wow ! I am sure you too want to get into these doors .what is the likely hood of getting access ? That’s very suspicious not being able to get entry. I always thought this building was highly suspect . Imagine if this connects to a much larger underground system ! Maybe you can do another remote viewing if this building ? Thanks again !
@@georgea2108 Yes i sure do! I will do my best to ask permission in a purely historical interest and see if they will allow it...it's worth a try. I did not mention it, but this was someone who was on Travel Channel's Strange World show on Montauk with me, and another show on CW network on Montauk, with me as well, that's how we met, but he is a lifelong resident of Montauk and was basically like one of the kids on #strangerthings riding his bike into Camp Hero in 1984 with other local kids. He was involved in the project, met w Preston etc. I just could not say his name for many reasons, no matter how many extra views it might bring, he does not really want the attention. I figure it was nice enough for him to let me look and document! Yes I can definitely see them turning cold war fallout shelter spoace into Lab space, and then connecting said expanded spaces, I had the same thought! Also a new Remote Viewing is in order! I will let you know soon in case you guys want to give it a shot. Thanks George, enjoy the weekend, keep me posted!
@@georgea2108 Ha ok Good, I knew you would! Ok cool I am going to work on that today, I have a lot of other locations of interest as well, and a bunch of stuff of interest other i should have finished already... hopefully this weekend!
Yes but you are also talking about a state park that for 20 years no one was allowed to access, Bell labs had many other duties on this base, which was unusual according to the telephone museum in Maine, A state trooper did live there and have video of his arresting us on this base for trespassing, on this channel. This property has the most convoluted and messy history, shared by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard and Navy, and now (most of it) is a state park but some areas are completely off limits. Nothing about this property is normal, hence the legends. Thanks for checking it out!
Just this one video is only the top off the amount of space is available under these buildings. He also pretended to not see the void. Pretty difficult to miss, really.
So do they all have like a bunker? I have one out in a pasture near my farm and it has the big tower with a build but it’s smaller than this building. I’ve wanted to go in in since I was a kid but after I actually found out what they were I REALLY want to explore it 😅
Hey, Thanks for checking it out! No unfortunately I found out they all do not have a Coaxial Hub (giant underground bunker, hardened with everything mounted on springs). It turns out those are more rare, but yes, a small building can hide a massive underground, as the example in this video is actually one of the Coax bunkers! So the best way to check the one by you, is the map I shared, its small, but it is online and you can look to see if there is one, but the tower is a giveaway. Then you could always post the location and many AT&T or Bell techs are seeing this video and could probably answer! I am learning a whole bunch of stuff I never planned to, and in turn, I am figuring out this site: Montauk, which Does have an underground bunker, but it was built for the Air Force as a fallout shelter. Also, this former military base is what Stranger Things is based on! So there is a little more going on at this site than usual. I would love to find a deep coax bunker and maybe you have one near you, that would be awesome & pretty lucky to see inside! Thanks for sharing, and for watching!
@@freedomisntfree_44 Thank You! Yeah you are probably right about that spot. I found one in Stapelton, or a YT video at least to link to. Otherwise I cant really post one or I would share that map for you. This video hs one in Al. pretty cool ua-cam.com/video/etLsd1BEh4c/v-deo.html
Story is many other things have been going on. There's an early (80's?) movie that is disrupted by a camera drive, on 16mm. stock, mechanical, but much of it isn't, and Bielek's earliest activity is on that film in most detail. There is another guy with a 200 Iq., apparently.
Oh Thank You, I was looking for the Gamma Ray detector, the one at Grummans looks different so I did not realize. Thanks for checking it out & for the info!
You are definitely onto something. In fact I was just rewatching this last night and looking for something similar...very strange. I do have official FOIA documents that mention they built a fallout shelter beneath this building, but the CoAx bunker has since been ruled out after I was contacted by the telephone museum, with info. However, we still can not get into the portion of the building that has a full basement wall that extends deeper into the foundation. You are definitely onto something by looking at the utilities and where they go. Thanks for watching & the comment!
I agree! It's not mine to donate, I was only let in under strange circumstances. No one ever cared to save the AN/FPS-35 radar and when I told them about this equipment, they did not seem to care much for saving it. It will most likely sit there for another 20 years with no one ever filming it again! I agree with the sentiment though!
I did, at 16:15 before I show all of the images it says: "Sample of bunker construction: Photo log of a similar facility being built" which is something I often refer to when dealing with template based construction. Thank You though for pointing out it can be more more clear. Also, I found out there is no Coax bunker here. Yes, at the time It was my best guess that there was a Coax bunker here, until this week, I was corrected by a gentleman from the Telephone museum in Maine, that the nearest coax was in Hempstead, far to the West, so I was wrong about Shirley and Noyack as well. This is the only footage ever shot inside this building, and I have since determined that the space I can not access, is indeed a Bomb shelter, one of many fallout shelters on base I have records for. Unfortunately I can not correct the thumbnail or video without taking it down, but I will 100% change the details in my book to show the correction.
@@montaukisstrangethanks for the reply. I grew up on Long Island and worked for AT&T. Never visited this site though. Thanks for the tour. Hope it gets preserved.
@@WApnj No problem! Thanks for the comment & conversation on it, yes my Mother, Grandmother and Grandfather all worked at Ma Bell ; ) my fathers side was all military, I am the odd one out in the family lol Yeah, I hope it gets preserved as well, the equipment room is in pristine shape! Thanks for watching
The whole facility is part of the bunker, this is technically the "hen house" the Air Force Blockhouse style building that sits atop of the basement levels, protecting the entrance. It was always the "Security building", and A state police officer lived there. No one else has ever been inside, the parks people do not let anyone in. I only got in bc this gentleman was retiring, and he happens to be in several media stories, TV shows, and is someone who says they were brought to the base as a kid. He was in major print media outlets like Sun and Post. I just did not tell anyone in this video who it was, and that is the only reason any of us are seeing the inside of this building at all, because he just did not care anymore and he is a friend of mine, that I met when we did the same tv shows together. That being said, they keep this building locked up tight and I still could not get into the staircase and freight elevator section of the building, which even he did not have a key too, but you can see the missing space in the wall as i tried to demonstrate here. Ask why is it locked so tight? Also, there are literally thousands of these facilities across the US, and most of them are built exactly the same, like a template. Thanks for watching & the question!
I have been very curious about a few activities that were executed by hired scientists and psychologists. One was in 1944? regarding the Philadelphia experiment, which would be equipment that has been removed from the main "radar" tower. It put out a signal alright. Since the over the horizon radar was invented, they had very little use for Montauk, except emergency back-up for civilian aircraft. They would have to gut the place for an experiment like Philadelphia, but I imagine they could use a tiny part of the tower for civilian aircraft. Underneath is where you might find the rooms used for the mind adjustment experiments. There's a lot of debate about the whole thing, so I won't bother with the name to save a lawsuit.
Hey Thanks for the comment! I wrote a book on this! So WW2 was Coastal Artillery in 1942-1945 Radar was invented and deployed in WW2 but only in the most elite sites like Montauk, and only to detect Uboats. The Philedelphia Experiment was in 1942 Before radar existed so that is not quite right, but you are definitely on the right path...All of the very first breakthroughs in radar came in the 1950s at Montauk, and Montauk was responsible for the very first developments in computers, the internet and computer code language. The SAGE Radar AKA the Montauk Radar was built in 1960, and that is when they discovered the Microwave auditory effect - AKA MIND CONTROL via Oscillating Frequency! From there they delved into interfacing the human mind with computers and eventually Time Travel in the 1980s. This base (Camp Hero Montauk, inspiration for Stranger Things) was abandoned in a hurry in 1983/ No lawsuit will ever take place. No one has ever had evidence. That is what I printed in my book: Documents people would get hurt for printing, and could possible be the basis for a court case one day. I havebenn visiting the base since I was 10 years old, and go as much as possible (that is what this channel is about ALL MONTAUK) Thank You for watching, your interest and your comment! Stop back soon - this is the place for Montauk Info!
PS I think you may mean the LSD Rooms! I am the only one wih footage and pics (at least who has shared) they were destroyed in the year 2000 but I have this mini documentary: ua-cam.com/video/SbLU3SqdvDk/v-deo.htmlalso here is my book with tons on Philadelphia and Montauk: store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange or ebook avaialble worldwide not just bookbaby store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange (like Amazon Kindle and Barnes & Noble etc) Awesome stop back here if you are interested - I guarantee no One else has any of this! I am a local, Know the authors and have been on TV several times, so I do not want you to get bad info. Ok Thanks again for watching!
@@zelbole Yes, but the hit series Stranger Things is based on the legend, and as far as the factual history - the internet we are using right now started at Montauk as well as 13 other sites in the Cape Cod System. It's chapters long of information I wrote in my book. If you heard of Arpanet, before that was the On-Line system, and before that SAGEnet, before that was the ESS at Montauk, where they used the first Wide Area Networks, first real time computing, and rolled out and tested the first touch screens (crt & light pens) the first microchips, circuitboards (modular circuit packaging) and Magnetic Core memory (predecessor to RAM) as well as so much more in the hardware department. Eseentially the first digital vaccum tube computers and even computer code was invesnetd for SAGE itself - that is from MITs website. Montauk AFS was the first SAGE Tower in operation, and part of the origin of the internet, most accepted sources do not dig back far enough in time to 1954!! What happened at Montauk changed the world on multiple occasions. I dug into all that stuff, more than just the legends, but I dug into those too, and there was surprising similarities at times. What do you think about the LSD rooms on base I wonder? Thanks for the comment & discussion either way, I find the WW2 coastal artillery bunkers very interesting but that may be just me ; )
Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment! Do you mean the map I featured in this video that shows the entire US (all locations)? I do have a clear copy you can zoom in on, let me see if I can find it one the web and I will try to share it here. I would love to see other schematics but have not found them yet. It would be great if the Parks service was into preserving this history!
There are many people who swear they were taken to a CIA base 7 stories underground and this is a lot like what they described with the large antenna tower and building they went in and down an elevator
Many sub terrain entrances and connecting ways were likely sealed up time and again over the years. There is no doubt at one time or another Camp Hero had an extensive clandestine Military Intelligence Outpost on and under its ground operating in various capacities for many years. Now a days most everything is Centralized Out near Area 51 under the ranges extensive underground network of Man made cavern and tunnels and it remote access and high security.
Very Much Agreed Ric Dale & Thanks for watching! I have been exploring here since I was 12 yo and I am finally printing a book with as much hard documentation as i can, so I hope you stop back soon. Anyways, Thanks for checking it out!
Hey Thanks for watching! I never knew this many Bell labs folks would gather here, I added the music. lol But I wanted to share w you 3 of my family were Bell Labs: 2 operators and 1 Lineman, my Father was a consultant for Sperry, which built the radar on this base! Thanks for watching!
I do not think so, but this tower was over 50 miles from the nearest tertiary target so I guess they were taking a chance, and by the time they were that advanced (range & accuracy) this tower was out of date. Its amazing how much they spend and then its outdated in 8 short years! Thanks for watching!
Not actually click bait, there is a bunker, I just could not get there, but I showed the proof of where it is in the building. I agree the thumbnail is trying to attract people - I made it, but the video is about the bunker beneath this facility. At&t folks have confirmed that there is no TELCO bunker - however I prove with real documents and military history of Camp Hero in my book, that there was a fallout shelter in this location with FOIA docs reprinted at my expense as well as speculation there may have been a secret listening post beneath this most important communications hub of the base. I appreciate you like my thumbnail though!😀Honestly it kind of sucks that you have to struggle so hard to get a video seen and clicked on these days, lol but I try to always use screenshots from my videos and I do it all myself with my own money. I do appreciate you watching anyways!
It's everybody's lucky day. A former ATT employee just posted a PHENOMENAL full tour of one of these bunkers, and it is indeed incredible. It's on UA-cam.
Hey ALS Thanks for letting us know, feel free to post the link here, I would love to watch as well!
Ron From Atlas Survivol shelters just posted a tour of a AT&T bunker on his UA-cam page. They are huge. I have seen other videos in the past on these as well
@@brianredban9393 Oh man I am definitely going to check that out, the silo is I think 150 feet deep on the Atlas! Thanks for letting me know!
I worked at a surface AA&T TD-2 (4 GHz) microwave site 1970 thru 1977....Excellent training using Unbelievable $$ High quality Bell Labs/Western Electric test equipment....This was all Planar Triode vacuum Tube technology using Silver Plated/Copper tuned Cavity resonators routinely Hand tuned to achieve sweep 20 MHz, 0.2 dBm Bandwidth flat, 4 GHz FM at required S/N rf power level....Challenging precision work Environment for this at time 20 yr old !! .....Lots of memories keeping good Agc in all weather conditions.....
That is pretty exciting sounding! Thanks for sharing the details here & feel free to read through the comments many other Bell employees have shown up in this comment section for this video, I am just soaking in the details and learning! PS One side of my family had 3 Bell employees, but only as 2 operators and 1 lineman, Thanks for watching!
Interesting Tom, I started in 1970 and worked several MW Relay sites in Oklahoma. We had portable tower/antenna systems to go back up with after a nuclear exchange to restore critical circuits.
Phenomenal coverage of things hidden from us during that time. Thanks for interesting facts about Camp Hero.
Thank You Jane!
That equipment is part of a Number 5 Crossbar electromechanical Bell system switch/exchange. I’m confident that wasn’t RAM this system predated that. I didn’t see any microwave longlines transmission equipment that would have been used in ATT long lines.
I’m pretty sure this is just a switch. The actual longlines microwave sites had to have massive ventilation ducts. Those would have been massive pits like at a minimum of 20 feet by 20 feet wide. It would suck in air and it would go to an evaporator cooler and dissipate heat with big round baffles that could close if the air were to become contaminated with radiation. Another thing to look for is the presence of waveguides, rectangular copper ducts that would go in and out of the building. That picture you showed of the cylindrical concrete thing with a small dome on it was a gamma ray detector that were present at those sites - if it had that it would have been highly likely that it would of been some kind of long lines site.
The picture you showed of the tower with horns on it were definitely from a microwave relay site. The tower shown in the video definitely had contemporary cell tower comms. The source material of your research was pretty interesting. This infrastructure is fascinating.
Also check out Seattle connections museum - they have one of the last working number 5 crossbar switches that they maintain for the sake of exhibiting this technology.
Hmmm very interesting! Thanks for the comment and for watching! So the 256 magnetic core RAM was actually invented for the SAGE system and Montauk was one of the very first SAGE sites and even took part in ESS Experimental SAGE System and Cape Cod System, the very beginnings of the internet in 1955 actually it all traces back to SAGE. Anyways this Longlines site Montauk is on the Longlines location maps, and is in all the military historical records as TELCO, ATT building and definitely had a TD-5 Microwave relay with horns atop that tower, I have old pics before they were de-horned. This site is very unique as it received data from across the base, from the AN/FSQ-7 in the SAGE Annex and then sent the data along to the Direction Center. I can not figure out where the power source was, each redundant system had commercial power, and generators, and a fallout shelter (which explains the part of the building we can not access) and there were 2 power plants on base, 1 coal and 1 diesel, and I can not tell if this is connected to them, also, part of this building was tied to GATR ground to air radio as well. Half my family worked for ma Bell and they have no clue, and Bell had many other responsibilities at this site, such as ALRI, and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to Texas towers #3 in the ocean, it's very interesting and everyones information is really helping to figure it out! Thanks again!
Back when American Telephone & Telegraph Company was a monopoly, there was always plenty of money available to build these unbelievably expensive microwave repeater stations every 30 miles from North to South and East to West. Since AT&T Long Lines carried ALL U.S. Government communications along with ALL military circuits including radar, the Federal Government was more than happy to pay their monthly “phone” bill.
Unfortunately, the AT&T company that most of us are familiar with today is NOTHING like the Long Lines division that I worked for.
What is shown in this video is a testament to the genius that existed back in the 60’s, 70’s, of the company. With the advent of the Laser from Bell Labs and the invaluable assistance of Corning Glass Works, the way we communicate around the country and around the world has changed forever.
Hey Brian! I remember Preston mentioning antenna's that just laid ON the ground. He chuckeled a bit when he said it and added that they often worked better than the other's! Have you been able to locate any of those as of yet?
When I heard him say that, it brought to my mind something I had seen on the w a y back machine - back in the day (allegedly) before radar and such when prop planes were "modern" they set up a system for pilots to navigate manually. It was literally h u g e "arrows" laid out ON the ground set up so the pilots could just look out their windows and find the direction of whatever nearby city. They said these things were all across the country! The video I saw this on packaged that as a part of forgotten about history.
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Makes me wonder if its related?!! Considering Teslas works, this makes a LOT of sense! Coincidentally 🙄 today Ive learned the museum of his works violently burned to the ground. That makes me soooo angry! (Insert SURPURLATIVES here)
Brian I cannot thank you enough for all the fantastic and outstanding work you do!! I ABSOLUTELY love your painstaking attention to detail!!
Well done!!
Hello Angel! Thanks for the awesome comment! No I have not heard of that but now that you mentioned it I am definitely very curious about the idea! Yes it does remind me of Tesla in the sense that the antennae would be on the ground, perpendicular to what we would normally see... very cool! Thanks for the feedback too! That always encourages me and gives me inspiration for sure! As far the Tesla Science Center / Tesla's former Wardenclyffe Lab and site of the free energy tower - the fire was devastating to us all! I heard the next AM and have passed it several times since to check the damage. I did promise an update and the best news I read is that not all was lost and they are very positive and hopeful about continuing on with the museum! Thanks again Angel, always great to hear your thoughts & have a great weekend!
The large arrows on the ground you mentioned are part of the FAA's very old "Visual Airway System." It consisted of large concrete arrows that, at the time, were painted for visibility against the contrast of the terrain. In addition to the arrows, there were also light towers in order to be able to use the system at night.
In some parts of the US (particularly Montana) the Visual Airway System was maintained into the 1990's.
I've been an airline pilot since 1989. I used to enjoy watching the lights from the VAS when flying over Montana at night during the '90's. But technology marches ever forward, and navigation aids like the VAS, NDB's, etc are all relics of the past now.
The site you got video of is just a TD-2 microwave site. No bunker underground there. The bunkers had massive ventilation pits for the gigantic HVAC systems and to supply the very large diesel generators.
In the early 90’s I did “tear out” work in these sites, removing old obsolete equipment.
The 2 bunkers I spent the most time in were Ellisville, Florida and Windermere, Florida (Orlando metro).
This is the address for Ellisville:
3050 SE County Road 18
Lake City, FL 32025
United States
THAT is what a bunker looks like (note: this one had an external building addition done about 20 years ago. It’s no longer fully underground).
Thanks for the info and for checking it out! Yes I am going to make an updated video to correct myself: A.) I did find in the History of the 773rd radar Squadron Historical records obtained by FOIA, I saw that these was a TD-2 tower, and actually found a picture of the tower with the horns, and I noticed there were 2 instead of 4, does the name have anything to do with the amount of horns? B.) A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine was the first to point out there is no CoAxial hub / Bunker below, but there is a Air Force cold war Fallout shelter below this building, which was guarded by State police officer for decades who lived in this building when it was a state park. He actually arrested us for trespassing in the state the park. I suppose that is why I can not access that one part of the building.
On top of that I found some very interesting duties, different than most LongLines sites: they handled Fine Grain Video Processing to receive the radar data from the FST-2 computer, a super large vacuum tube computer in the Ops building across site, and then the TD-2 would send the SAGE radar data off to the Direction Center via the Skyway! Bell techs also ran the ALRI and Tropospheric scatter on site, and there were phone switch / hub's in 4 of the buildings on base. I am still trying to figure it all out. Thank You again for the comment!
@@montaukisstrange, "TD-2" is the name / specification for the microwave radio signals handled at the facility; it has nothing to do with the number of horn antennas. "TD-2" was preceded by "TD" and followed by "TH" in terms of development history. This was all analog radio, first using vacuum tubes and later some solid-state components. The system employed frequency division multiplexing providing hundreds of voice channels (or a couple of television signals) within each broadband signal. Western Electric was able to double the capacity by implementing vertical and horizonal polarization of the radio signals. In the mid-70s they successfully started using single sideband (SSB) sending two different signals on each of the two bands (upper and lower) simultaneously. In terms of number of horns, a tower near where I grew up in Upstate New York had seven horns. It was a 3-way junction, 2 horns heading to Buffalo, Albany, and Pittsburgh, respectively. The 7th horn branched off the serve a local Class 4 Toll Tandem.
I use to hang out on top of an old long lines site in CT. The same old maintenance worker use to kick me and my buddies off the tower platform, but was always super cool about it. This was way back in the late 90's when they still had the giant Western Electric horn antennas. There was a time for about 15 years when a lot of them sat dormant, eventually being sold to the big tower company that removed the horn antennas to make room for cellular equipment.
You had mentioned you were working on this before, and I had always wondered about these buildings. My grandmother worked for Southern Bell in an imposing tower with the microwave antennas on the top. Now I know why they were built like bunkers. You're very thorough in documenting this with excellent photos. How about those boxes of Converse?! If Ma Bell was so important to defense and communications it makes you wonder why congress deregulated the phone companies in the 80's.
Hey Ryan thanks for that article! Yeah the Converse were quite a shock to see, at least they would be down there surviving in style! Yeah it was cool to find out how fiber optics came and blew the microwave relay system out of the water in the early 80's, i remember they deregulated everything around that time, interesting! Thanks for the awesome comment and for sharing that!
@@montaukisstrange Yes that was the plan. They even went to schools with a demo fiber optic cable bundle to show kids how it worked. My mom's last job with the phone company was drafting jobs to install it. They installed the fiber networks only to be dissolved so other companies could continue to profit off of AT&T's and Bells' work.
the "deregulation was mandated by Judge Harold Greene in 1982 per a lawsuit by the 12 or 13 major "RBOCS" - Regional Bell Operating Companies - (NY Bell, New England bell, Southern bell, Chesapeake and Potomac, Ohio Bell, etc.) against the "monopoly - AT&T. ...The RBOCS wanted to purchase equipment from manufacturers other than - "Western Electric" - AT&T's manufacturing division. AT&T's position was - other manufacturers equipment wouldn't be compatible & would compromise the system, (viewed in the 1940's to 1980's as a "Strategic national defense Network" . AT&T lost the lawsuit. it had a 10 year period after 1985 that it had to divest itself from Western Electric - - the ruling : an "operating company" (ie: AT&T) could not be a "operating AND a Manufacturing company.... which created the spin-off of Lucent Technologies from AT&T in 1996. after the ruling, the RBOCs began purchasing / integrating equipment from other manufacturers. another implication of the lawsuit was many of the independent RBOCS merged together to create mini monopolies, ie Bell Atlantic accreted several RBOCS -( c&p, nj bell, bell of philly, ny bell, ne bell) - subsequentially, bell Atlantic became Verizon.
@@raxxtangowow. Thanks for this. Very interesting and informative!
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Cynthia!
The de-regulation was only of the Bell System. Nobody challenged AT&T Long Lines until MCI came along. At that point you had a choice for your long distance carrier.
They could hear a pin drop! The fiber Optics tried to outdo the Microwave and CoAx..and they did, but the tried and true still remain, and are our redundant back ups! Honestly I wish these were kept up to date, everyone wants to tour an underground building! Its a no brainer imo, but maybe thats just people like us! Nevertheless I stand by this notion haha Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange The 'pin drop' was from Sprint. As far as Coax, yes it is still used, but short haul for the most part. Microwave, although digital now, still has bandwidth and distance limits that are no where near what is required in today's communications arena. The speeds of today's pluggable optics are unreal, and things can be tuned for different colors or NM and filtered through optic multiplexers. My old company was using pluggable 400g optics that inserted directly into router cards and were good for 80km. (50 miles) Start running things through the DWDM regenerators, with RAMAN amplifiers, a dispersion compensation, you are into the terabytes over a single pair. there are bi-directional systems, the the fiber cable densities are now ribbon, and outside plant cables were in the 3400 range. The last 20 years has been unbelievable, (Oh yeah,,30yrs MCI, then 12 years Time Warner/Charter)
And they failed,like sprint and MCI.
Wow, very interesting, thanks for the video.
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Very well done Brian and I've told you before I've seen a couple in southern Ontario, and your map you displayed at the beginning of your video I paused and the sites I've seen where shown in your map and there's one very near shown on your map with a road named Termaine I'm 10 minutes from that one and there similar to the one's that you posted I'lll try and take some photo's of them for comparison possible and now I just got a DJI Mini 3 pro drone and they are on sale before Christmas so my wife got me one after my surgery and made for a great gift for my Birthday Thank you for the video it's got my wheels turning after seeing your map showing spots in Ontario also!
Yes you have! I have talked about making this for a whole now, aI figured it would be a good video to get back into the swing of things with. The drone is an amazing idea for you! I hope you can "get out there" to some degree with the drone and get some exploring in any way you can! Thanks Gavin always appreciate the comment and you watching!
Oh love this one. I don’t believe I’ve seen it! Groovy B 💛💛💛
Thanks!! Glad you liked!
Bro, you got to get to the communications Museum in Seattle Washington. They have all working switching equipment from the 1800s to the 1990s for visitors to play with!!!! It’s so cool!!!! They’re only open on Sundays though! So plan accordingly!
Awesome video!
Thanks Marcy!🙂
I have some pictures and videos of a few in CT. I can try and grab some fresh videos of one of the bigger ones we have. The bunker is completely flooded, the water is crystal clear and stagnant, you cant tell there is water there until you start to walk down and get your feet wet. Lots of old equipment still exists within some of them. Very cool pieces of history we have.
@giovannivincent6599 Hey thats awesome! Thanks for watching, and for sharing! Wow yeah that sounds like the radar tower at Montauk, I tied a glow stick to a rock and threw it down in the flooded basement a few videos back, and it got hung up on the ledge. Going to go back with underwater camera and selfie stick and try to film with some kind of underwater flashlight, it should be an 18' basement as I have real estate pics from an identical tower... 1 of 24 built the same. Anyways If you did get footage be sure to come back and let me know, and you can drop thelink here because a lot of Bell AT&T techs are showing up which could probably answer any other questions about these sites! I only know this one because Montauk, Camp Hero, Montauk Air Force Station, is my specialty! But i pretty much explore everything on Long Island. I would love to see any footage of these sites. Thanks again for the info!
Very cool vid. We have an old Microwave tower and building like that on top of a hill about 35 minute drive from my house in Georgia. It seems to have been sold off and is a private commercial property now.
I thought the microwave communication towers were mostly N.S. railway, at least down here, they used their own microwave phone system long after cell phones became a thing.
That vent you were looking for is a blast detector
Hey yes I was definitely looking for a Gamma ray detector, I saw a picture of one and realized I see one all the time when I pass by Grummans F-14 factory aka Naval weapons plant, That and I was looking for a breathing vent for an underground, but just found out this site may have no COAX so maybe just a shelter down there, if anything. Thanks for watching!
I just realized the Gamma ray detector you meant is in the front of the vent I was talking about at 12:10 the air vent is flush with the ground and is circular, and is behind the fence. Thanks for helping me figure this out!
Excellent!! There may have been an installation like this sans tower in Piscataway NJ in the 70s. A small white painted cinder block building with a bunch of underground cable markers surrounding it. A friend who’s Dad worked for AT&T Long Lines said it was an entrance to an underground Telco facility. The building was much smaller than the one here.
Great video! Takes me back to being stationed in Germany in the Army 1972 - 73 at a combined Army Air Force communication site. The Air Force guys had a big microwave tower with the old-style feed horns from back in the day. I was Army signal Corps on the other side of the fence, a completely mobile communications site working out of 45 foot trailers and many small equipment huts mounted on 2 1/2 ton trucks. Look forward to watching more of your videos!
Wow That is awesome, great comment Thanks I appreciate you watching as well! Yes thats very interesting, I have had to study many of the Signal Corps equipment placement at Montauk like the Search Lights, AntiAircraft positions, BES, BC, and FC stations, and the entire coastal defense artillery's communications cable runs were everywhere, so much cable and so many phone lines! I am still trying to figure out where the Signal Operations Room would be at Montauk, but it is fascinating trying to learn how everything works. Anyways, I am hoping like minded folks can share and talk with each other here, if they wanted. Anyways Thanks again!
Thanks!
Thank You so much Jeremy! That is my first one Much appreciated!
no stair case or elevator there, the racks would be under ground, there would be ventilation shaft blast detectors, that building doesn't even have a filtration intake on roof you found at manned hardened sites
Yes Thank You I have since been corrected by several ex Bell employees, and I realize now there is no CoAx bunker, but there are many unique features as this was also a part of SAGE and this is on a former Air Force radar base, also there was a fallout shelter as I found it in the base records, but i was wrong about the AT&T longlines bunkers that I showed examples of, but hey I love to learn and this is fascinating! My main interest is in this base, but I try to understand all of the structures and the tech behind them. I appreciate your info and thanks for watching!
So good to see the taxes being spent so wisely and with the people in mind.....NOT.
Any security or police i would be saying, this is your planet, you family, you friends your life too, don't you want the truth, you are a human being before anything else! Stand up for that.❤.
Yes, there were a few occasions we tried to reason with them, other times we just escaped to explore another day, but you are right - the right diplomacy can definitely change one mind at a time if done thoughtfully. Even planting a seed / an idea, can grow into a changed mind! Thanks again Megs for watching & sharing your thoughts on this!
2:42 that chimney foundation thing looks like it is quite new like the dust didn't yet settle in the pores.
Aah Good observation, I will have to take another look with that in Mind! Thanks and we appreciate you checking it out and the comment too!
So awesome 👌
Keep up the good work 💪👷. Hats off too ya!
@@Looknorth802 Thank You! Much appreciated! Feedback always gets me making more and more, digging deeper - so Thanks again and enjoy the weekend!
the "computer room" looks to be the relay bays for a 1A electronic switch or #5 crossbar and the test switchboard. the circuit cards were probably resistor packs not ram -to the right is the circuit distribution frame. .. local circuits would be "peeled-off' of the microwave td2y carrier for local service (the microwave system was retired around 1990/92 , the antenna feed horns would have sat atop the red/white tower-shown at 11:44... I don't see any of the microwave waveguide or the RF receivers / amplifiers in your photos of the 'computer room'.... any equipment in earthquake zones or underground would have been mounted on springs - seen at 19:04 & 19:27.
Thanks for all the details! Yes I have since found out from the telephone museum in Maine that there was no CoAxial bunker at this site, or even the others in this video. I will correct all future details going forward. The Bomb shelter I was referring to is an Air Force fallout shelter built in 1961, that has one on record in this building but I can not access that part, and neither can the parks people apparently. This building was built in 1955 and supported the Transmitter and Receiver sites and would receive data from the FSQ-7 data transmitter across base (This is on a military base that was closed in 1981) also it is very unique as far as Longlines sites, because it was part of a SAGE radar site (Semi Automatic Ground Environment) and they had been hooked into the Whirlwind computer as MIT had their own building on site to test the Cape Cod System and ESS. Then they had the BUIC computer and later BUIC II and BUIC III. Also Bell labs technicians were on site in 1962 to run the ALRI (one of 4 sites on east coast to talk to the Lockheed EC121) and the Tropospheric scatter to talk to the Texas Towers #3. I got all this info from FOIA and military documents from the veterans of the 773RD radar squadron, which this AT&T building was a part of. I do not think they served the public at all. The tower was de-horned in 1969. I have a lot of history but you definitely gave me a lot of technology to look up! Thanks! I am doing my best to understand it. The fallout facilities are most likely small, they built about 6 of them on base, between 1961-1963. Do you think this equipment had a power source in the building (generators etc)? or do you think they would have been tied into one of the power plants on base? Either way I appreciate you watching & your very helpful comment!
Interesting! I was wondering why that ladder was so strange looking... Thanks
Some cool stuff. I live near the horn tower in Norwalk Ct. The horns are gone but the tower has been a local landmark forever. Next time I go by the area I should look for traces of other structures... and perhaps aerial shots might show construction, because they were taken about every 10 years since the 1930s.
Hey Rupe I think that sounds like a great idea! I did not know they preserved the horns in Norwalk, I just had a friend send me pics of the Asheville NC tower and they preserved it in the center of town, with additional tower constructed around it to protect it. This one I show at Montauk was de-horned sometime in the early 1980s. Good luck in your local searches, I always use the old aerials to find out a ton of info at Montauk, Thanks for watching!
@@montaukisstrange As I said, the horns are gone circa the cell phone push, but the tower is there. I was told it's over 300 ft tall. My sister does cell phone tower site research for installations on old churches, and existing structures, like water towers. She has access to many historical web sites regarding each location. She's also a history buff so certain details are her thing in her mind.
@@rupe53 That's awesome! Yeah it is surprising, but it seems in many cases poor records were kept of historic infrastructure. It sounds like a pretty cool job for sure! I would love to have access to those kind of data searches / history sites! I am definitely interested the technology as well as the infrastructure below.
@@montaukisstrange she has been doing this job for many years, so much of it is out there to be had or bookmarked once you find it. Quite a bit is like reading old property deeds, where the boarder is Smith on one side and Jones on the other... but then you stumble on tid-bits of good stuff where the property had one use and got changed to another. Knowing the town's history can play a role in figuring things out at a given time. We've got transmitters on a property locally, but looking closer shows a round building, which originally had a radar dish on the roof for early warning of air strikes. If you piece it together, it's also the highest point in town, which is still an advantage even though it's 12 miles from the coast. Yup, another piece of cold war technology. Searching the FCC licensees on that tower says town govt and cell phones, but searching back also shows an FM station, an AM station, and various other uses. A friend says that back in the day of "daytime only" use kids would climb the tower at night to view NYC some 50 miles away.
@@rupe53 Oh man, all I have to say is, i have not been around as much because I have been writing voraciously to finish this book about Camp Hero I have been writing for 4 years and hoping to print next month, and by the way you describe your sources, are almost identical to the way I like to completely absorb every resource available! ha I hope to see you guys again then, I'm interested in what you both find also, the kind of minds that could help me with certain mysteries and mostly I just like to share what I found. Good stuff!
Helloo Montauk Is Strange watching the video I was wondering if you happened to peek behind those pictures on the wall at the staircase ? The pictures on the wall did you happen to look behind any of them? Just wondering.. thank you for the video..
Heloooo Susie! Thanks for checking out the video! I did not get to check them because I used those as an example from similar facilities, but could not get underground here. They are all built similarly though. Now onto your picture idea - That is brilliant! I will probably look behind every picture I find now! 🔍lol but seriously, I just might! 😁
@@montaukisstrange You should!!! yes please do!!
Tesla knew that there was something there. He DID have special powers of detection of energy.
It’s impossible but I’ve always wanted a microwave horn as a souvenir when Bell Canada took some of there’s down from a tower close to where I live. They’ve been up there ever since I can remember. I used to see the tower from a distance then we moved closer to it and I was able to see it better. It was the only one of its kind that had those horns. From Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
That is awesome! I would want a microwave horn too! Thanks for the comment and sorry I missed it sooner. Also, appreciate you watching!
There's a movie on channel white phosphorus picture that I am watching right now, that I have seen before, but I started watching at the middle of it (from my best reckoning), and Mr. Bielek, as well as another obvious New Yorker (apparently an intellectual prodigy), who took part in both the Philadelphia experiment, and the Montauk youth torture disguised as experimental work, that was a direct insult to humanity.
I always wondered what was under the NikeSite.
Happy New Year Brother ✌️💯👍🙉🙈🙊
Thanks my friend! I hope the same to you and family!! I appreciate you stopping by!
This site seems very suspicious! I wonder if it was one of the rumored "Unlisted" Autovon or Echofox Top-Secret locations? Because there's no reason a guard should have lived there after 1992, when the program was decommissioned ??😮
i worked at AT&T/Bell Labs Lucent in 90's have been to 2 facilities like you describe one in NWNJ now owned by Iron Mountain logistics
a 5 story underground facility its sole purpose was to protect phone system during nuclear attack the one here was built because of proximity to Picatinny Arsenal
Hey Dude Oh man thats awesome! Yeah I have seen a lot of re-purposing as Server centers, or even seed banks. I just found out Montauk did not have the Coax bunker, but was unique in that it was a part of the SAGE radar system on this Air Force Base and used the TD5 microwave repeater to transmit data to the direction centers, and other Bell technicians ran the aALRI site here, as well as the Tropspheric Scatter antennae and building, that communicated with the Texas Towers. I am slowly learning the old tech. Very cool Thanks for watching & the comment!
thanks for the vid brings back memories@@montaukisstrange
They must have stopped receiving transmissions from the force lost in Jan 1981. So by July 15, 1982… they must have focused their efforts elsewhere.
Camp Hero is one VERY strange place...
For a place that is no longer in service, WHY do they have huge amounts of elec going into a tiny house?
They also have a brand new imtercom system at the front gate with a camera on it.
Hey Agreed 100% & Thanks for watching! Yes I have a video where we started pressing the buttons only moments before a parks police car came past. Actually that gate is not far from the building in this video. Thanks for the comment!
I remember an interview with Al Bielek & Preston Nichols on Art Bell back in the day claiming wild conspiracy theories about this place and mind control and the Philadelphia experiment.
You should do a little more research. The majority of AT&T facilities did not have underground bunkers. The buildings you are looking at are primarily above ground, they don't have underground sections. The larger buildings were hardened but had no underground bunkers. The give away for the majority of the bunkers was usually a microwave tower on a hill or mound, sometimes surrounded with a fence with one or two small buildings. If you looked around the site you would probably see a gamma detector, exhaust pipes for the generators and vents for air circulation. It usually consisted of a multi-bay garage and a small building with an overhead garage door. This building was the access to the shaft with a hoist to move heavy equipment. There were probable around 100 bunkers of varying design.
Thank You, It is not my specialty but I am learning as best I can...but this facility is much different than your average Longlines site. It most definitely has an underground bomb shelter and I found that in the official military historical records from a FOIA request done by one of the Veterans of the 773rd Radar squadron with those details. Furthermore, this building was used as part of the SAGE system which received the FSQ-7 date transmission, from the SAGE Annex across base, and forwarded on to the direction center with the TD-5 microwave relay.
I was looking for the bunkers I showed in this video which were the coaxial hub I am guessing? A gentleman from the telephone museum in Maine already pointed out that there are few of those, and the nearest in Hempstead, which used to be Queens long ago, this site is about 100 miles from there. I assumed there was a coax hub (bunker) in every single facilty, but I stand corrected and will no longer pass on any such info, knowing that is not the case, I prefer to know what is really down there. Anyways Bell employees were all over this base, running the ALRI, worked in the GATR Transmit & Receive buildings, and ran the Tropospheric scatter antenna to comminicate with Texas Towers 3. In WWII the Army had the Signal Corps, but when the Air Force came in, the used Bell for the communications on base.
Either way I appreciate the info, and will correct my details going forward but definitely cant change this one, not to mention, no one else has ever been allowed to film inside this building and we faced arrest every time we went to explore back then. Thanks! I never knew so many former Bell employees would gather here! I enjoy all the info, and learning!
The round radar dome is a WSR-88D Doppler weather radar operated by NOAA/NWS
Hey Thanks, I think you mean the Riverhead site right? Or maybe you meant the mini dome on top of the AN/FPS-26 Tower? (that was the metal tower painted in in Day Orange) This was an Air Force base, but NOAA may have operated that small dome on the roof next to the main Radome - because the color day orange is a NOAA color if I remember correctly.
The 4 Radomes at Montauk were AN/FPS-3 (long range search radar), AN/FPS-5 (Height Finder) all microwave, and then replaced with a pair of AN/FPS 6 HF and then the 3 was replaced with one of the first AN/FPS-20s Long Range Search Radar. I thought the riverhead site was a Doppler! Thanks for the comment
there is a similar tower and exact building off the LIE in old bethpage too.
Hey Bugs! Yeah I recently saw Two pretty close together off the LIE somewhere around Huntington area... It's amazing how many of these there are across the country on that first map I showed. Then to start thinking about how much money went into it all! Thanks for checking it out!
Where we lived in West VIrginia, near Charlestown (not Charleston) you could see a place we called the "Bald Spot On The Mountain".
My Dad asked a guy he knew that worked at Weather Mountain, Va and his comment was, don't ask. I suspect it was one of these...
Oh wow sounds interesting! Did it have a big steel tower nearby? Some seem to have been converted into TV towers, and even cell towers, but otherwise I know Va. has quite a lot of cool underground spots. Thanks for checking it out & the comment!
I have to Ask, My Grandfather, Was a AT&T prior Employee.. Obvious worked In these Types Of Places.. He got Parkinson's..Some Say it Was From the Korea Theater.. But, Is there Any Chance any Of this Stuff Could Have Caused Parkinson's Disease.. Believe Me, the Words Impossible Have Left my Vocabulary YEARS AGO.. I Just Want To Follow His Path,... Bec. My Knowledge of What he Was Involved With is Very Limited, Obviously..! ... Reality is, I Dont Think Anybody Is Directly Related To Misunderstood things.. I Have Had My Fair Share of Asbestos From Construction All My Life.. and im just Interested.
So We Dont Make The Same Mistakes a Second Time,.. GBS Alfred Wood!! U.S. Army Korea War Vet. TF 95.
Thanks for sharing about your Grandfather, thats cool you keep his memory alive! Personally, I am not sure but I do Not think it would be from any AT&T related activities, and any theater of war has many hidden things that show up years later... Personally I can't speak for anyone, many of my family were Army, or AT&T as well. I just do not want to give you any incorrect info on something so personal but I do appreciate you asking and maybe this is the right place to find an answer from someone else as well!
Surly must be places like this . We should ask the chinese balloon. 😊 Thanks for sharing did not know anything about this exept for what mike has shared . And he sent me over to your channel .
😂Indeed! Hey SouthernGrits!! gtsy here! I recognize you from Mike's channel, since the first day I have been there. Thanks for stopping by and checking it out! Much appreciated, enjoy the day : )
the way into most of the underground is in the Montauk townhall underground and the building near it. One method is to provide leases that will last 50 years as more of these older pale people start to die off with structures with plot and lot number history that is murky often a new company will spring up and take the place of the former.
Damn bro this is awesome! Was it easy to get acess with this guy?
Hey Thanks Knighthawks! Yeah I suppose, I made friends with him when we were both on the same TV show on Travel channel, then again another show on CW it turns out he is one of those kids who use to ride his bike into Camp Hero as a kid just after it closed for good, and truly believes he was involved as well, he is a Montauk local and he was just about to retire so I could not show it for a little while... but yeah it took the right timing to seize the opportunity, and I did not want to miss the chance! I would love to get permission again, it does not hurt to ask, but I do not think the next person in line will be as sympathetic to the idea! Thanks again man for the feedback - much appreciated!
Ah wow what a great opportunity. Great vid very informative! I gotta take the ride out there to explroe more now that ticks and traffic are gone @@montaukisstrange
After you opened the hatch you pointed to a door .any reason why you couldn’t open that door to see if it led to a stair or elevator ? Does the fact that the log book had entry dates up until 1982 mean anything regarding the overall operation of the base ? I forget when they supposedly closed the base !Amazing history Awesome !
Hey George! Yeah i asked if we could get into that door but he never had the key, he said none of them did! Same thing for the apmt entrance on the other side. The dates pretty much line up perfectly. The radar was replaced with the Riverhead radome in 81, the base was abandoned in 83, but they started scaling down in 82, a few people stayed at the GATR building until early 84. Thank You for watching glad you liked!
Wow ! I am sure you too want to get into these doors .what is the likely hood of getting access ? That’s very suspicious not being able to get entry. I always thought this building was highly suspect . Imagine if this connects to a much larger underground system ! Maybe you can do another remote viewing if this building ? Thanks again !
@@georgea2108 Yes i sure do! I will do my best to ask permission in a purely historical interest and see if they will allow it...it's worth a try. I did not mention it, but this was someone who was on Travel Channel's Strange World show on Montauk with me, and another show on CW network on Montauk, with me as well, that's how we met, but he is a lifelong resident of Montauk and was basically like one of the kids on #strangerthings riding his bike into Camp Hero in 1984 with other local kids. He was involved in the project, met w Preston etc. I just could not say his name for many reasons, no matter how many extra views it might bring, he does not really want the attention. I figure it was nice enough for him to let me look and document! Yes I can definitely see them turning cold war fallout shelter spoace into Lab space, and then connecting said expanded spaces, I had the same thought! Also a new Remote Viewing is in order! I will let you know soon in case you guys want to give it a shot. Thanks George, enjoy the weekend, keep me posted!
We would definitely like to a remote viewing ! Ok yes I remember the guy from the show
@@georgea2108 Ha ok Good, I knew you would!
Ok cool I am going to work on that today, I have a lot of other locations of interest as well, and a bunch of stuff of interest other i should have finished already... hopefully this weekend!
Technically if someone lived there they have legal access to the whole building
Yes but you are also talking about a state park that for 20 years no one was allowed to access, Bell labs had many other duties on this base, which was unusual according to the telephone museum in Maine, A state trooper did live there and have video of his arresting us on this base for trespassing, on this channel. This property has the most convoluted and messy history, shared by the Air Force, Army, Coast Guard and Navy, and now (most of it) is a state park but some areas are completely off limits. Nothing about this property is normal, hence the legends. Thanks for checking it out!
@@montaukisstrangesomeone could easily get in with the right tools
Just this one video is only the top off the amount of space is available under these buildings. He also pretended to not see the void. Pretty difficult to miss, really.
So do they all have like a bunker? I have one out in a pasture near my farm and it has the big tower with a build but it’s smaller than this building. I’ve wanted to go in in since I was a kid but after I actually found out what they were I REALLY want to explore it 😅
Hey, Thanks for checking it out! No unfortunately I found out they all do not have a Coaxial Hub (giant underground bunker, hardened with everything mounted on springs). It turns out those are more rare, but yes, a small building can hide a massive underground, as the example in this video is actually one of the Coax bunkers! So the best way to check the one by you, is the map I shared, its small, but it is online and you can look to see if there is one, but the tower is a giveaway. Then you could always post the location and many AT&T or Bell techs are seeing this video and could probably answer! I am learning a whole bunch of stuff I never planned to, and in turn, I am figuring out this site: Montauk, which Does have an underground bunker, but it was built for the Air Force as a fallout shelter. Also, this former military base is what Stranger Things is based on! So there is a little more going on at this site than usual. I would love to find a deep coax bunker and maybe you have one near you, that would be awesome & pretty lucky to see inside! Thanks for sharing, and for watching!
@@montaukisstrange I highly fought the one near me has a bunker. It’s in a small small town in Alabama 🤙 love these videos though
@@freedomisntfree_44 Thank You! Yeah you are probably right about that spot. I found one in Stapelton, or a YT video at least to link to. Otherwise I cant really post one or I would share that map for you. This video hs one in Al. pretty cool ua-cam.com/video/etLsd1BEh4c/v-deo.html
Story is many other things have been going on. There's an early (80's?) movie that is disrupted by a camera drive, on 16mm. stock, mechanical, but much of it isn't, and Bielek's earliest activity is on that film in most detail. There is another guy with a 200 Iq., apparently.
My, my, one can only guess that the archaeologists of 5000 A.D. will think of all this.
At 22:24 you see the nuclear explosion detector, not a vent.
Oh Thank You, I was looking for the Gamma Ray detector, the one at Grummans looks different so I did not realize. Thanks for checking it out & for the info!
I got one not far from where i lived i thought it was a phone tower but i was wrong
Power wires are running deep into the ground. It must be deeper than the crawl space.
You are definitely onto something. In fact I was just rewatching this last night and looking for something similar...very strange. I do have official FOIA documents that mention they built a fallout shelter beneath this building, but the CoAx bunker has since been ruled out after I was contacted by the telephone museum, with info. However, we still can not get into the portion of the building that has a full basement wall that extends deeper into the foundation. You are definitely onto something by looking at the utilities and where they go. Thanks for watching & the comment!
@@montaukisstrange I enjoyed your video.
You're welcome.
Donate that mainframe and binder's to the connections museum
I agree! It's not mine to donate, I was only let in under strange circumstances. No one ever cared to save the AN/FPS-35 radar and when I told them about this equipment, they did not seem to care much for saving it. It will most likely sit there for another 20 years with no one ever filming it again! I agree with the sentiment though!
You should be clear that the images you present are not of this site. You say you did not get access in your description of the video.
I did, at 16:15 before I show all of the images it says: "Sample of bunker construction: Photo log of a similar facility being built" which is something I often refer to when dealing with template based construction. Thank You though for pointing out it can be more more clear. Also, I found out there is no Coax bunker here. Yes, at the time It was my best guess that there was a Coax bunker here, until this week, I was corrected by a gentleman from the Telephone museum in Maine, that the nearest coax was in Hempstead, far to the West, so I was wrong about Shirley and Noyack as well. This is the only footage ever shot inside this building, and I have since determined that the space I can not access, is indeed a Bomb shelter, one of many fallout shelters on base I have records for. Unfortunately I can not correct the thumbnail or video without taking it down, but I will 100% change the details in my book to show the correction.
@@montaukisstrangethanks for the reply. I grew up on Long Island and worked for AT&T. Never visited this site though. Thanks for the tour. Hope it gets preserved.
@@WApnj No problem! Thanks for the comment & conversation on it, yes my Mother, Grandmother and Grandfather all worked at Ma Bell ; ) my fathers side was all military, I am the odd one out in the family lol Yeah, I hope it gets preserved as well, the equipment room is in pristine shape! Thanks for watching
@@montaukisstrange 👍 btw I believe those modules in the racks are amplifiers and filters not memory... Microwave relay was an analog system.
@@WApnjthe connections museum would preserve it
At what timestamp do you get into the bunker?
The whole facility is part of the bunker, this is technically the "hen house" the Air Force Blockhouse style building that sits atop of the basement levels, protecting the entrance. It was always the "Security building", and A state police officer lived there. No one else has ever been inside, the parks people do not let anyone in. I only got in bc this gentleman was retiring, and he happens to be in several media stories, TV shows, and is someone who says they were brought to the base as a kid. He was in major print media outlets like Sun and Post. I just did not tell anyone in this video who it was, and that is the only reason any of us are seeing the inside of this building at all, because he just did not care anymore and he is a friend of mine, that I met when we did the same tv shows together. That being said, they keep this building locked up tight and I still could not get into the staircase and freight elevator section of the building, which even he did not have a key too, but you can see the missing space in the wall as i tried to demonstrate here. Ask why is it locked so tight? Also, there are literally thousands of these facilities across the US, and most of them are built exactly the same, like a template. Thanks for watching & the question!
@@montaukisstrange Bunker is the below ground level. You didn't show that in video footage at all?
I have been very curious about a few activities that were executed by hired scientists and psychologists.
One was in 1944? regarding the
Philadelphia experiment, which would be equipment that has been removed from the main "radar" tower. It put out a signal alright. Since the over the horizon radar was invented, they had very little use for Montauk, except emergency back-up for civilian aircraft. They would have to gut the place for an experiment like Philadelphia, but I imagine they could use a tiny part of the tower for civilian aircraft. Underneath is where you might find the rooms used for the mind adjustment experiments. There's a lot of debate about the whole thing, so I won't bother with the name to save a lawsuit.
Hey Thanks for the comment! I wrote a book on this! So WW2 was Coastal Artillery in 1942-1945 Radar was invented and deployed in WW2 but only in the most elite sites like Montauk, and only to detect Uboats. The Philedelphia Experiment was in 1942 Before radar existed so that is not quite right, but you are definitely on the right path...All of the very first breakthroughs in radar came in the 1950s at Montauk, and Montauk was responsible for the very first developments in computers, the internet and computer code language. The SAGE Radar AKA the Montauk Radar was built in 1960, and that is when they discovered the Microwave auditory effect - AKA MIND CONTROL via Oscillating Frequency! From there they delved into interfacing the human mind with computers and eventually Time Travel in the 1980s. This base (Camp Hero Montauk, inspiration for Stranger Things) was abandoned in a hurry in 1983/ No lawsuit will ever take place. No one has ever had evidence. That is what I printed in my book: Documents people would get hurt for printing, and could possible be the basis for a court case one day. I havebenn visiting the base since I was 10 years old, and go as much as possible (that is what this channel is about ALL MONTAUK) Thank You for watching, your interest and your comment! Stop back soon - this is the place for Montauk Info!
PS I think you may mean the LSD Rooms! I am the only one wih footage and pics (at least who has shared) they were destroyed in the year 2000 but I have this mini documentary: ua-cam.com/video/SbLU3SqdvDk/v-deo.htmlalso here is my book with tons on Philadelphia and Montauk: store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange or ebook avaialble worldwide not just bookbaby store.bookbaby.com/book/montauk-is-strange (like Amazon Kindle and Barnes & Noble etc) Awesome stop back here if you are interested - I guarantee no One else has any of this! I am a local, Know the authors and have been on TV several times, so I do not want you to get bad info. Ok Thanks again for watching!
There's still very little interest in the whole thing, because it was over 40 years ago when these "experiments" were performed.
@@zelbole Yes, but the hit series Stranger Things is based on the legend, and as far as the factual history - the internet we are using right now started at Montauk as well as 13 other sites in the Cape Cod System. It's chapters long of information I wrote in my book. If you heard of Arpanet, before that was the On-Line system, and before that SAGEnet, before that was the ESS at Montauk, where they used the first Wide Area Networks, first real time computing, and rolled out and tested the first touch screens (crt & light pens) the first microchips, circuitboards (modular circuit packaging) and Magnetic Core memory (predecessor to RAM) as well as so much more in the hardware department. Eseentially the first digital vaccum tube computers and even computer code was invesnetd for SAGE itself - that is from MITs website. Montauk AFS was the first SAGE Tower in operation, and part of the origin of the internet, most accepted sources do not dig back far enough in time to 1954!! What happened at Montauk changed the world on multiple occasions. I dug into all that stuff, more than just the legends, but I dug into those too, and there was surprising similarities at times. What do you think about the LSD rooms on base I wonder? Thanks for the comment & discussion either way, I find the WW2 coastal artillery bunkers very interesting but that may be just me ; )
Is there somewhere to get a copy of the site location map?
Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment! Do you mean the map I featured in this video that shows the entire US (all locations)? I do have a clear copy you can zoom in on, let me see if I can find it one the web and I will try to share it here. I would love to see other schematics but have not found them yet. It would be great if the Parks service was into preserving this history!
There are many people who swear they were taken to a CIA base 7 stories underground and this is a lot like what they described with the large antenna tower and building they went in and down an elevator
That sounds about right! They may also be referring to the SAGE AN/FPS-35 Radar tower that is at Montauk... Thanks for watching!
Many sub terrain entrances and connecting ways were likely sealed up time and again over the years. There is no doubt at one time or another Camp Hero had an extensive clandestine Military Intelligence Outpost on and under its ground operating in various capacities for many years. Now a days most everything is Centralized Out near Area 51 under the ranges extensive underground network of Man made cavern and tunnels and it remote access and high security.
Very Much Agreed Ric Dale & Thanks for watching! I have been exploring here since I was 12 yo and I am finally printing a book with as much hard documentation as i can, so I hope you stop back soon. Anyways, Thanks for checking it out!
Ah.... Many have been sold to the private sector.
Indeed. Would be nice to own one though! Thanks for watching & the comment
I wish the nonstop “music” didn’t drown out the narration😩
Hey Thanks for watching! I never knew this many Bell labs folks would gather here, I added the music. lol But I wanted to share w you 3 of my family were Bell Labs: 2 operators and 1 Lineman, my Father was a consultant for Sperry, which built the radar on this base! Thanks for watching!
Sorry i just seen the thumbnail for the getting arrested videos 😮💨😔🤨💞.
No worries at all! Thanks for watching & your comment too!
I'm just trying to get the latest truer story, than all the cover-up.
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Yo Derek! Thanks for stopping by!
Could the microwave towers survive a nuclear blast ?
I do not think so, but this tower was over 50 miles from the nearest tertiary target so I guess they were taking a chance, and by the time they were that advanced (range & accuracy) this tower was out of date. Its amazing how much they spend and then its outdated in 8 short years! Thanks for watching!
Probabiy not that's why they had restoration crews.
Click bait that's not a bunker.
Not actually click bait, there is a bunker, I just could not get there, but I showed the proof of where it is in the building. I agree the thumbnail is trying to attract people - I made it, but the video is about the bunker beneath this facility. At&t folks have confirmed that there is no TELCO bunker - however I prove with real documents and military history of Camp Hero in my book, that there was a fallout shelter in this location with FOIA docs reprinted at my expense as well as speculation there may have been a secret listening post beneath this most important communications hub of the base. I appreciate you like my thumbnail though!😀Honestly it kind of sucks that you have to struggle so hard to get a video seen and clicked on these days, lol but I try to always use screenshots from my videos and I do it all myself with my own money. I do appreciate you watching anyways!
@@montaukisstrange Thank you for the kind reply and taking time to do so.
@@UQRXD No problem my pleasure and likewise!