RC Car Racing Classes - Which One Should You Race? Onroad, Offroad, EP, Nitro? By Invisible Speed

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  • @cpg8000
    @cpg8000 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you! I’m a novice getting back into this hobby since the early 90’s, and this speaks to me at my level. I appreciate these “simple” topic videos as much as the more complicated topics.

  • @scottdashnaw2345
    @scottdashnaw2345 Рік тому +4

    The worst thing about racing is the tracks are a hour and a half trip 1 way

  • @NeilLB7
    @NeilLB7 6 днів тому

    Stock 2wd 1/10 Buggy carpet. It’s how I got started. It’s all I know. It’s where I feel I actually know something and belong. I’m lost looking at dirt, touring cars, nitro, truggys and 1/8 scale.

  • @Ipecac76
    @Ipecac76 2 роки тому +10

    If you are thinking of starting rc racing in my opinion do not worry about on road or off road or classes. First thing I recommend is to find out what RC tracks/clubs are near you. Figure out their schedules. Are they seasonal? What days do they run practice? What days do they Race? What do they charge? Google, and Facebook should help you figure all that out. Then go out to one of their practice days. Just by showing up, and showing interest you will probably be offered all the information on every class that they run. I bet you will even get offers to purchase a used setup to run one of the classes they race. Most tracks/clubs are like a family of friends. Finding a fun group to race with is more important than the class.
    When it comes to off road vs on road the way I describe it is this. "Off road you race the track. On road you race the other drivers."
    Electric vs Nitro? Well there is no pitting with any electric class I have raced. There is with every Nitro I have raced. So with Nitro you will need a pit man. You will be paired up with someone who will pit for you, and you will pit for them. You become a team, and will end up working with each other before, during, and after each race trying to help each other be faster. To me this alone makes nitro way more fun than electric.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 11 місяців тому +1

      This is good advice, but I'd like to make one caveat - if the track only runs off-road stock classes (17.5/13.5) on carpet or sealed clay, go somewhere else. Stock off-road classes can be a money pit, and while dirt tends to make it easier for budget builds to compete, on carpet or sealed clay you kinda have to spend that money to be able to keep up.

  • @ykpr
    @ykpr 2 роки тому +2

    After few years "to play" RC, I have decided to start on track (1/8 off-road brushless) and I confirm that it is really cool. More difficult than I think !
    In France it is more and more difficult to do nitro. People who lived around track protest on the activity because of the noise.

  • @PopalongRC
    @PopalongRC 2 роки тому +5

    Great job J
    Our channel is all about getting new blood into the hobby and this is a great video .. keep up the good work

    • @ZingZingNZ
      @ZingZingNZ 2 роки тому

      Any 1/8 scale nitro? Or all tamiya?

    • @PopalongRC
      @PopalongRC 2 роки тому

      @@ZingZingNZ not all Tamiya but it is all electric at the moment, as JQ says it is the easier form of racing to start with .

    • @malsmith2012
      @malsmith2012 2 роки тому

      Love Popalong RC! 😁

  • @kennyirish5021
    @kennyirish5021 Рік тому +2

    Nice job and good insight Love 1/8 scale off road. Truggies ha

  • @RcOffroad9513
    @RcOffroad9513 2 роки тому +1

    You nailed all the key points of both electric, and nitro for a new guy. 👏 Great video!

  • @kiwidiesel
    @kiwidiesel 2 роки тому

    I race with my son, we do indoor during winter and outdoor technical off-road during summer. Awesome fun and I have learnt so much about setting up the cars and trucks. Electric currently but have started aquiring a couple nitros for the upcoming summer season.

  • @guidolavelli6277
    @guidolavelli6277 Рік тому

    In my opinion ON and OFF is like sky and Snowboard. Also for me is important to go in a track with other guy. HAVE FUN

  • @Stewpkiddable
    @Stewpkiddable 2 роки тому

    rejoining the hobby after over well over a decade. losi mini t 2.0 brushless on her way. wish they had a mini b 2.0 brushless rtr as a novice. maybe a 1/10 buggy next if i enjoy the losi. great content!

  • @cbh148
    @cbh148 2 роки тому +3

    I'm all about driving on tracks -- I have a nitro buggy and ebuggy, and other than breaking in an engine, I only drive them on the track cause there's just nowhere near as much substance driving elsewhere. I used to race up until about a year and a half ago when I realized that I had way more fun on practice days than on race day. Easily 10x more driving. Like you've addressed before, race days take too long. I think there's about 2x as many classes as their should be. Maybe 3x. If they cut the classes down to just like 3 classes, the whole race day could be cut in half with longer mains/qualifiers and more focus on driving rather than every last class. Some are redundant and don't bring anything special to the table, such as 1/10 4wd buggy, mini etruggy, 1/8 etruggy, etc.

    • @cbh148
      @cbh148 2 роки тому +1

      From what I've seen at my local races, most of the drivers that race in 3 to 6 classes end up with something comparable to eating seafood at an Applebee's versus at an actual seafood restaurant -- They do everything just ok and none of them very great. They compromise all of their classes to get more of them in. Quantity over quality. They don't have the time to focus in on much of the tuning or intricacies of any one class because they've got ~4+ other ones to juggle, plus the maintenance time stacks up.
      And it's not that they just love each of the classes so much, it's always that they're trying to make it where they don't have so much time waiting around during a race day, which is what the experience is if you only race 1 or 2 classes.

  • @markschroeder1214
    @markschroeder1214 2 роки тому +2

    Electric on road racing I was very budget minded. I did the euro truck class. Not much set up and very affordable

    • @tm5123
      @tm5123 2 роки тому

      Me too, I’ve just got into stock TC, but love the truck. Offroad isnt my thing, cant be bothered with the dirt.

  • @dirtyfingersninja
    @dirtyfingersninja 2 роки тому

    Great videos learned a lot, subbed!!

  • @pukki34
    @pukki34 Рік тому

    Nitro, endless hasless with plugs, clutch setup etc. Bearings. Its just hell.

    • @user-rs8zg8ey2b
      @user-rs8zg8ey2b 11 місяців тому

      you forgot the castor greasy mess, haha.

  • @darylreiser3988
    @darylreiser3988 3 місяці тому

    Good subject to talk about

  • @lotmeet9382
    @lotmeet9382 2 роки тому

    Loving these videos, new subscriber!

  • @tresparatodorc7400
    @tresparatodorc7400 2 роки тому

    Great Video Mate nice info also

  • @DetoursRC
    @DetoursRC 2 роки тому

    Great video. I havent got into racing yet but I want to. I dont want to be super serious I just want to drive on tracks and have fun. The loganville georgia track is near me and they have a race whatever you got novice class I want to try. I just built a kyosho mp10 tki2 and I have the ignite design tlr 22t nitro conversion I want to drive on a track. I just need someone to pit thats what is stopping me right now. Maybe Ill start with my electric cars since I already have several also. I really am more interested in nitro though.

    • @ZingZingNZ
      @ZingZingNZ 2 роки тому +1

      Sure if you show up someone from the club can slap some gas in your car. Please just ask and have fun! I would love to live in the USA with tracks galore get amongst it!

  • @josephsaucedo8691
    @josephsaucedo8691 2 роки тому

    Hi I was wondering if you could do a video on how to test you nitro engine for leak and trouble shoot carb problems i can't find any video about this on Rc thanks. This was great I was also unsure about racing thanks for clearing it up for me this is the first video I've seen talking about all the classes I like off road 1/8 nitro myself 👍✌️👌🏎️💯🥂

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 роки тому

      In the course we have discussed nitro engine trouble shooting!

  • @kikiautorcman787B
    @kikiautorcman787B 2 роки тому +1

    Sometimes you need to be "serious" and you drive on-road... Sometimes you need to "have fun" and you drive off-road... But always with NITRO... 😁⛽🛢️‼️💯🔥🏁🏎️🤓🇫🇷

  • @user-rs8zg8ey2b
    @user-rs8zg8ey2b 11 місяців тому +1

    I have raced both on and off road electric. I totally prefer on-road 12th scale, better battles, 8 minutes and precision driving is my preference. On good tight carpets tracks in 480 seconds (8 minutes), we were doing 600+ turns per race, love it. I felt I was ON THE LINE on on-road, where off road was way more getting back to the line.
    After 2 decades of rc car racing. I switched to PC sim racing for many reasons, the switch to 4 minutes races and only 2Q and 1main was 12 minutes of racing a day, when it was 3Q and 1main = 32 minutes a day (plus all the practice packs). With sim racing (not any of the gaysyation grand turismo crap, that is arcade not sim), I averaged 27 races per week for 4 years straight (5600 races and 1600 hours) and the races were about ~17 minutes. Also there is way more depth than rc cars, tire management, fuel management, pit strategy, working with teammates and more, the list goes on and on, and its a hell of a lot lower cost, so way more racing depth than go as fast as you can and be consistent as RC is. Have fun.

  • @916vp
    @916vp 2 роки тому

    Did I miss out on a discount? I went to purchase the video course and noticed the price is up from from a couple of days ago?

  • @user-rs8zg8ey2b
    @user-rs8zg8ey2b 11 місяців тому

    I forgot to mention, throttle response on nitro is very slow compared to electric, after you get good at electric, nitro for me was a disappointment, including the nitro castor oil mess it makes, have fun.

  • @OrcaBoat3
    @OrcaBoat3 2 роки тому +1

    I wish they had Nitro Monster Truck races on the scale of IFMAR.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 11 місяців тому +1

      They used to. Well, not IFMAR since they don't give a shit about anything other than buggies and on road, but ROAR used to have a class for them in the 90s and early 2000s. Problem is, people took what was supposed to be a "race your basher" class too seriously and started running buggies with truck wheels and tires in that class and smoked the production monster trucks. And even before that, it wasn't the T-Maxxes or Savages that were winning that class, it was the OFNA Monster Pirate, which was basically a proto-truggy. As a result the class got split into Truggy and Production MT, and within a few years everyone that ran Production MT switched to running Truggy.

    • @OrcaBoat3
      @OrcaBoat3 11 місяців тому

      @VestedUTuber well, as far as I know, there is only one solid-axle nitro truck in production today-- the Kyosho USA-1 Nitro with 3-speed transmission. The Losi LMT could easily be converted into nitro, and others could follow. A solid-axle Nitro competition would be great. Keep it solid-axle and it won't turn into buggies.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 11 місяців тому +1

      @@OrcaBoat3
      There's actually special events out there for solid-axle trucks but they have to be scale, full-cage trucks like the LMT or SMT10. They're structured very similar to Monster Jam with both short sprint races and freestyle.
      As for running them in a more "conventional" supercross style event, I don't think a solid-axle only class would last, the problem is that the trucks handle EXTREMELY poorly compared to independent suspension trucks. However, there is a way to keep truggies from invading a production MT class, and in fact this was the rule that was in play from the class split up until the death of production MT - axles had to be below the chassis.

  • @davideug835
    @davideug835 7 днів тому

    I want to open up a track back home. How can you help me?

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  7 днів тому

      @@davideug835 email me or message on fb. Take finding contact details as an IQ test.

    • @davideug835
      @davideug835 7 днів тому

      Can you please get in touch on my WhatsApp +256700387466.Otherwise, send me your email address too

  • @MovingTargetOne
    @MovingTargetOne 6 місяців тому

    I would like to do offroad racing, but i think the only club within 100s of miles is onroad

  • @skorpparitube
    @skorpparitube Рік тому

    What about short course trucks?

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  Рік тому

      Not meant for racing seriously. Great for club racing and having fun with friends. Dont take it seriously, just drive it

  • @jasonrhodes9726
    @jasonrhodes9726 Рік тому +1

    Nitro vs electric? Why would anyone want to pay more, work harder and go slower?

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 11 місяців тому

      Nitro offers longer mains (Nitro mains run anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, vs 4-8 minutes for electric), adds pit strategy to the mix due to the need for refueling and in some cases tire changes, and also forces you to get good at maintaining corner speed since it takes a moment for the engine to spool. Also, electric classes are limited on battery voltage to 2S for 1/10th scale classes other than pan cars, 4S for 1/8th scale classes and 1S for pan cars. Under those restrictions electric models actually don't have a speed advantage over nitro, they're actually pretty closely matched.

    • @jasonrhodes9726
      @jasonrhodes9726 11 місяців тому

      No one wants to waste that much time marshalling your races.
      I have chemical burns on my lungs so I would rather not breathe your toxic exhaust.
      Because of spinning metal parts you can't stop, I would rather not get my fingers mauled in a machine.
      Its very privileged of you to impose so much on other people and offer nothing of recompence.@@VestedUTuber

  • @SG-wj2qj
    @SG-wj2qj Рік тому

    Classes will also vary depending where you live, check to see what’s running local.
    For me,
    1/10 on-road Drifting
    1/10 on-road indoors
    1/12 on-road Pan car
    Off-road:
    1/10 SCT 4x4
    1/8 eTruggy
    1/8 eBuggy
    1/5 SCT 4x4 Gas
    1/5 Buggy 2WD Gas
    Over the years nitro has become a dead sport.
    Onroad-nitro died here when the last outdoor onroad track closed down.
    Nitro off road just became less popular, the 3 tracks I regular still run them - but theirs often not enough turnout so they mix them with the electric class, usually a race day decision spending on turnout.
    The nitro guys hate it, understandably so, they’re at a disadvantage.

  • @trippjonesiii6566
    @trippjonesiii6566 2 роки тому

    hey JQ where do i find the instruction manual for the mayako mx8.? i did not recieve one with kit.

  • @AfjeerOf
    @AfjeerOf 2 роки тому

    Is it normal that you didn't mention large scale RC?

  • @fredrikg934
    @fredrikg934 8 місяців тому

    Why is it calld nitro and not methanol?
    Nitro content is 16 %,, oil 10 % and methanol 74 %

  • @Ultegra10SPD
    @Ultegra10SPD 2 роки тому +1

    All well and good sir but sadly when most, if not all, of the tracks in your area have dried up with the interest in the hobby overall then there’s not much of a choice.
    The second wave of RC is over. Brushless, lithium batteries, forum/info boards, liveRC all of that didn’t save the hobby it just made it more expensive.
    In terms of the hobby itself if I could list reasons (at least in US, region 2 if i drill down further) I would say too many classes, club racing shouldn’t take all day, and tire bills. The last two are very key. Why does club racing take all day? everything other family activity on the weekend they can do in a couple hours and then move on to the next thing or go to church. No not here…three heats and a main takes all day. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a connection between unhealthy households and “Fathers” being gone all day “racing toy cars”. yes they may have the kids with them but thinking back all these years much of the time they didn’t. Probably why most of them stopped when they had kids and/or had kids that they couldn’t bail on to go race.
    You could even attach the notion that many people go to bigger races instead of club races for this very reason to make the time spent pay. Thus clubs die. The world is getting smaller and the evermore easily agitated public love lil more than a case of NIMBY (George Carlin for Not In My Back Yard) which also puts tracks in peril particularly for you Nitro folk who havent run mufflers since Frequency clips and Radio Impound were relevant.
    When my biggest rolling tool cart got the job holding tires, wheels, foams etc over the car, radio, and tools it was a warning to stop.
    10yrs out of racing. My two boys are nearing the age where I could consider showing them this. I did a little bit with some 28 scale cars to run around the basement. That was all well and good even though they eventually broke both radios which cant be fixed. I thought about putting a track in the backyard just to run around for fun and also to show them. perhaps running vintage cars as opposed to current ones. However in terms of racing at a club which are almost nonexistent here and all the expense that would be incurred. I’m sorry but for many like me it’s just not gonna happen the times we live in or not. If there was something like a 24 hour race again I’d consider it but all day for 3heats 1main. No.
    Best wishes, -U10
    (PS- i’ve read in places that you have a bit of a bad reputation. It’s OK I think I could say the same thing about myself at times. However I always had an amount of respect for you because I thought that your engine break-in tutorial really should be included with every nitro RC regardless of brand. I knew what to do but I thought that video was beyond effective for someone who didnt.)

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 роки тому

      I have a bad reputation because I’m honest and I speak the truth. That’s pretty much it. Watch the death of rc videos on my channel.

  • @Luca_s_Lab
    @Luca_s_Lab 2 місяці тому

    Is this supposed to be a clarification on the classes? WOW

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 місяці тому

      @@Luca_s_Lab what do you mean?

    • @Luca_s_Lab
      @Luca_s_Lab 2 місяці тому

      @@invisiblespeedrc It's not clarifying much...willing to enter in the race world but which car in which category is for whatever reason a mistery...

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 місяці тому

      @ did you watch and listen? There is alot of information there. A video isnt going to make your decision for you.

    • @Luca_s_Lab
      @Luca_s_Lab 2 місяці тому

      @@invisiblespeedrc Sure I did but still can't decide which category to go and which rules apply to each of them. So I'm still scrolling random cars on web shops.

  • @zachharris3779
    @zachharris3779 2 роки тому

    Did you forget about oval, carpet, dirt, concrete

  • @joshdean5867
    @joshdean5867 2 роки тому

    My 9 year old son runs a losi 8ight with a Novarossi Bonito / jp2 set up . He kills it ! Electric just doesn’t interest us at all . Racing without an engine ? No thanky

  • @fabulousfabrications1985
    @fabulousfabrications1985 2 роки тому

    Check out my custom Nitro car ,, tell me what you think

  • @saga420nbk
    @saga420nbk Рік тому

    Do you need a certain brand of rc car for racing.? Cuz I wanna do off road racing..

  • @joeytravis1953
    @joeytravis1953 8 місяців тому

    Is there a basher race class

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  8 місяців тому

      Bashing isnt racing. So no

    • @joeytravis1953
      @joeytravis1953 8 місяців тому

      Sorry I meant off road course for rc cars like arma kraton and traxxas sledge those type of cars

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  8 місяців тому

      @@joeytravis1953 those are not for racing

  • @fabulousfabrications1985
    @fabulousfabrications1985 2 роки тому

    Nothing sounds like 30 % nitro methane

  • @jONAThAnBunt1990
    @jONAThAnBunt1990 Рік тому

    Bewildered that is the word. Me too…, I just can’t understand why I can’t convince ppl to begin racing with me. It’s like they’re too arrogant to show up at a race scene and look like a looser lol…& they don’t wanna pay money looking like a looser 🤣
    It’s like u have to have a sense of knowledge of racing aspect in general to be into it and they just don’t have it. & so they’d rather stick with their backyard MONnster truck ahhyeaahh… lol I shake my damn head. How do we make this movement convincing?? & they don’t even know about breaking-in engines
    & if I see one more mf with a pull start I f swear… lol…. Just so unbelievable.

  • @MrBlompod
    @MrBlompod Місяць тому

    Why are you addressing children when 99 percent of people in the sport are Adults 😅
    But great vid 👍🏼

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  Місяць тому

      @@MrBlompod because 80% of the adults are at a childs mental level, and because we need more children in the hobby.

    • @MrBlompod
      @MrBlompod Місяць тому

      @ haha! 😄very true

  • @arnoldjordan1979
    @arnoldjordan1979 2 роки тому

    🅿🆁🅾🅼🅾🆂🅼

  • @mhrcracing
    @mhrcracing 10 місяців тому

    Isnt there a difference in the type of people drawn to on-road vs off-road racing? Or is there no clear trend there?