Making $100 Bass Sound Like a $1000 Bass

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  • Опубліковано 24 жов 2022
  • So I've been wanting to post more 4 string bass content on my channel for a little while now, but have never had a good sounding 4 string bass to use, so I decided instead trying to buy one and spend over $1000 I thought I'd take a cheap $100 4 string bass that I had in the closet and make it sound like a $1000 bass.
    Huge thanks to my friend Justin Cobb for helping me with this!
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  • @markusm108
    @markusm108 Рік тому +238

    The 'before' actually did sound a lot better. The upgraded version sounds much more scooped - more top end and bass but also sounding much more muddy. Maybe it plays better now but those original pickups were a better fit to the body than the new ones imo.

    • @darkfox2401
      @darkfox2401 3 місяці тому

      It also sounds like its picking up more sounds from the body after the re-work.

    • @taliesinmusic
      @taliesinmusic 3 місяці тому +1

      definitely not scooped. Might be your headphones, there's more crispy high end and the low has more clarity as if its edges have been sharpened. The earlier pickups had no definition between the lows and low mids so it sounds flatter, and more like a mumble - that's what I call muddy.

    • @cyborgchimpy
      @cyborgchimpy 3 місяці тому

      @@taliesinmusic UA-cam bitrate is 256.

    • @NousSpeak
      @NousSpeak 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, way too bright.

    • @joymonger69420
      @joymonger69420 2 місяці тому

      1. He didn't use EQ at all, we don't know how would it sound in other positions (some EQs have 0db at 0% and some at 50%).
      2. The more hardware you use, the more important pickup quality is. There is a lot less noises in DiMarzio
      3. DiMarzio is not the best choice for a bass guitar. For electric they are great. Fender, Aguilar, Seymour or MEC are main to go.

  • @jeffreywells6573
    @jeffreywells6573 Рік тому +397

    I personally am not a huge fan of preamps, I prefer a more passive tone but I will say that it definitely helped the tone tremendously. Those DiMarzio pickups are gorgeous and really sound great!!

    • @ryananthony4840
      @ryananthony4840 Рік тому +6

      Dimarzio is the best! However, I really like the seymour duncan quarter pounders when it comes to bass

    • @buffkangaroodog
      @buffkangaroodog Рік тому +13

      I think Ibanez does their preamp well. It enhances the sound rather than changing it (mostly it just allows for their EQ and mids selector)

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey Рік тому +1

      How do you record? You're likely plugging to a preamp. There will be EQ somewhere there, whether you like it or not.

    • @jeffreywells6573
      @jeffreywells6573 Рік тому +4

      I was referring to the preamp on my bass, not preamps in general. My bass has a preamp but it also has a toggle switch where I can switch between active or passive tones. I prefer a more passive tone. If I want an EQ, I'll adjust my amp.

    • @aaronocelot
      @aaronocelot Рік тому +6

      @@buffkangaroodog but it's still a battery sucking flat-sounding onboard preamp. I have no love for them. I have no love for that half-charged battery sound either.

  • @NMbass906
    @NMbass906 Рік тому +145

    That's awesome I had no idea you guys were buds. I've been watching both of you for a few months now lol. This is the crossover episode I didn't know I needed!

    • @cliffpurcell6363
      @cliffpurcell6363 Рік тому

      My daughter-in-law, Rachel Wammack, introduced me to both you guys. She pointed me your direction, Travis, years ago because of your collaborative work. After I built her a guitar, she told me I needed to familiarize myself with Justin’s work at NEO- she was right! Y’all do killer work, and this video was a fun study in the modding business. I wish you both well!

  • @jockojohn3294
    @jockojohn3294 Рік тому +434

    Only way I know to make both these bases sound the same is to drop them from a third story balcony to a concrete sidewalk below. My guess is the sound each makes is pretty darn close........

    • @Chilla81
      @Chilla81 Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal Рік тому +30

      The one with an alder body would make a more balanced sound, with equal doses of lows, mids and highs when it hits the concrete.
      While the mahogany bodied bass sounds more musical, with a warm sounding crash that sustains more.

    • @tednugentlives
      @tednugentlives Рік тому

      @@MrClassicmetal yep

    • @tednugentlives
      @tednugentlives Рік тому +8

      Sometimes a "good" cheapie gets out of the factory..ive seen it. (My E7 squier) and a 50 DOLLAR "trinity river" Chinese knock off. But its easier to get a selfie with a unicorn.

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound Рік тому +2

      That’s cute. You’re funny, so funny

  • @budizen3104
    @budizen3104 Рік тому +73

    I have been modding basses for over 40 years. One thing I have learned is that if the basic platform doesn't sound all that good, throwing money at it is just a waste. My rule of thumb is that if the bass was originally passive, keep it passive. P basses are a known quantity in the studio. If you change the pickups AND add a preamp, you no longer have a standard P bass. I love Rotos but not on a P Bass because when you consider the classic P Bass sound in the hands of trad. players (Jamerson comes to mind immediately), bright Rotos are the antithesis of what that sound is. As one other person here said, I didn't learn how to make a $100 bass sound like a $1000 bass, but I did learn how to throw money at a cheap bass to make it sound like a more expensive cheap bass.

    • @RogerSanGabriel
      @RogerSanGabriel Рік тому +2

      I agree but sometime one needs content.

    • @fonzworthbentley7455
      @fonzworthbentley7455 Рік тому +3

      I put Seymour Duncans into a cheap Squier Affinity and it sounded so much better

    • @brunoraffo6726
      @brunoraffo6726 Рік тому

      To me a must do is put a real bone nut.

    • @budizen3104
      @budizen3104 Рік тому

      @@brunoraffo6726 Why is that? Just curious. I don't think I have ever had to change a nut unless it broke.

    • @brunoraffo6726
      @brunoraffo6726 Рік тому

      @@budizen3104 Bone is way harder than plastic. You don't need a soft material that dampens the vibration of the string. Great Spanish guitars use bone nuts even today.

  • @larrytaylor5222
    @larrytaylor5222 Рік тому +101

    After you did the comparison of before and after, you should have done a comparison of the new bass vs one of your $1,000 5 string basses. That would of lead to a good price comparison for sure, none the less, great video 🔥

    • @larrytaylor5222
      @larrytaylor5222 Рік тому +19

      @@davidwang1326 it’s literally the title of the video 😅 I’m saying that as a way of comparing the two.

    • @last808
      @last808 Рік тому +1

      I would have liked to have heard the Donner properly set up without the added electronics.

  • @larneyshah4563
    @larneyshah4563 Рік тому +9

    Now turn a $1000 bass and turn it into a $100 bass

  • @hunterhelfrich1270
    @hunterhelfrich1270 Рік тому +13

    Definitely a lot more articulate with the new electronics, not only that, those pickups look amazing!! Great video 🤘

    • @TeIegram_Pask_Makes
      @TeIegram_Pask_Makes Рік тому

      👆👆👆,.
      Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, expect more videos.
      (Text me above to claim your prize).

  • @bigjohnson7415
    @bigjohnson7415 Рік тому +87

    To me, if the pickup didn't need a preamp, the pickup itself would have made a huge difference.

    • @Funkbass85
      @Funkbass85 Рік тому +5

      The bigger issue with $100 basses IMO is playability. Cheap necks with very bad fret work kills tone and playability.

    • @user-xf8is8qs2w
      @user-xf8is8qs2w 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Funkbass85 A few simple procedures would expose any neck/fret defects. One of the first things I always check on a new bass, is the neck bow. On some cheaper basses, the truss rod doesn't extend far enough along the whole neck, which causes the neck to be completely flat from the 12th fret to the heel.

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 24 дні тому

      True. Get a good neck or fret level. Possible that the tuners a may not even need to be replaced. Even the nut may not need replacement

    • @user-xf8is8qs2w
      @user-xf8is8qs2w 23 дні тому

      @@Funkbass85 I bought a new Ibanez GSR200 for $185 from Guitar Center. I ALWAYS check the neck for bow, and flatness after the 12th fret. The one I bought HAD NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER. Not all basses are the same. The only thing I replaced, were the pickups, which I removed, and then installed a PJ pair of Dimarzio's, which I already had removed from an older Ibanez bass. The bass sounds awesome.

  • @1funkyangel
    @1funkyangel Рік тому +1

    Love your videos Brotha Travis ! Always fun and enlightening !! :)

  • @andrewblawson
    @andrewblawson Рік тому +3

    I converted a 2003 Squier P Bass to a PJ with Seymore Duncan's and a maple neck, and a badass bridge, and it's become my main instrument. Modding is great!

  • @andyhamm6389
    @andyhamm6389 Рік тому +34

    There is a real dip in the mid range after the mods, the low end is more prominent and the top end is too bright. I'd have to say that the before was a more workable tone. You should have moved the jack to make more space for the preamp if you wanted to go that way.

    • @damiandoherty8183
      @damiandoherty8183 Рік тому +10

      Yeah - I'm glad I'm not the only one - I actually preferred the tone of the bass pre-mod - much more balanced and spread across the range. Having said that, I'm sure a bit of time dialing in the pre-amp and the tone controls of your amp would help.

    • @RobVespa
      @RobVespa 3 місяці тому

      ...or routed? The pickguard will cover changes. Additional or a different style of pickups could've been added or placed in a different area. There are a lot of possibilities.

  • @danielhdz.643
    @danielhdz.643 Рік тому +98

    You could have replaced the blend knob with a fixed value resistor and get more space inside the cavity.

    • @forkless
      @forkless Рік тому +21

      ...and not run the risk of having a rogue pot making all sorts of noises when it gets dislodged.

    • @Steve-mp7by
      @Steve-mp7by Рік тому +5

      remove the pot and use jumper wires. A resistor is not needed

    • @forkless
      @forkless Рік тому +4

      @@Steve-mp7by He literally said in the video that he wanted it to be 100% blended with the other pot, ergo you do need the resistor. No resistor=No blend

    • @Steve-mp7by
      @Steve-mp7by Рік тому +3

      @@forkless Oh well I see you know nothing about electronics. I guess ignorance is bliss

    • @forkless
      @forkless Рік тому +1

      @@Steve-mp7by Resistance of a piece of copper wire is effectively 0 Ohm, a potentiometer however depending on the type used (for guitars) while fully extended is somewhere between 250k and 500k Ohm. Like it is stated in the video he uses the pot at 100% for blending purposes, ergo 250k (or 500k) Ohm resistance.
      So you tell me, where is that 250k-500kOhm for the desired blend coming from?

  • @D0peSince85
    @D0peSince85 Рік тому

    Cool to watch the process

  • @kds58
    @kds58 Рік тому

    Ha! I love how the upgrades also made your pocket deeper on it!

  • @lawrenceholmes55
    @lawrenceholmes55 Рік тому +1

    Hey man your base sounds great now it always pays the upgrade your base especially when you know you need to I have a few bases myself that need upgrading and looking at your video has expired me to get the job done thanks man

  • @MadJackF1
    @MadJackF1 Рік тому +1

    I modded out my Donner DPB-510 with a complete rewire (CTS, SwitchCraft & Sprague) and an AlNiCo V pickup. I also did something similar for the frets and fretboard, I went just a tad further by radiusing the edges of the fretboard just a hair. I used an extra fine sanding sponge. Makes the edges just a little more comfortable, like a well work fretboard.
    I also have another bass that uses an active preamp. The blend knob was on it's own lead from the master board. I just removed the blend pot and wired directly to the lead. I'm not sure if you could do that with the Lusithand preamp, but it worked fine on my active bass.

  • @sending2ormore45
    @sending2ormore45 Рік тому +1

    Nice work. I have considered a project precision with a preamp. Things I have considered is replacing the tone control with a stacked pot for high/low on the preamp without having to drill another hole in the pick guard. Another though was possibly using a push/pull pot on the volume as a passive/active switch. Listening to the before and after sounds of your mod I think I would use a boost only preamp. The EMG BTC is interesting with the stacked knobs and preamp built into it.

  • @jdmafparts5585
    @jdmafparts5585 Рік тому +6

    Hey bro! Whatever you're doing with this video is working, as I haven't seen your channel before and got it in my recommended.
    That being said, super helpful video as I'm restringing/refreshing my Ibanez SR805 for the first time as someone who is normally a drummer. Keep it up man!

  • @SirArturia
    @SirArturia 3 місяці тому +2

    I was surprised that Justin didn't consider routing in a battery box onto the rear of the right cut and then drill a 1/8" hole through the battery box cavity into the pickup cavity for the battery box wiring. It's a one time install but now you have a convenient way to change your batteries. Also it looks clean AF! I only say this because I learned how to do it and though it takes a bit of effort to do, the work is worth it overall. So much so that I installed a battery box into every active bass & guitar I own that did not have one already. Also I despise trying to fish a battery out from underneath the pickguard! XD

  • @brettolson8397
    @brettolson8397 Рік тому

    The bright tone on the finished product sounds great

  • @beatrocka5
    @beatrocka5 Рік тому +32

    Seems like a lot of work to put into an inexpensive bass to attempt to improve it, but I understand that if a person is into tinkering it can be a fun project. Me, I just gotta save for the one I really want. Nice, Travis.

    • @andrewlong7578
      @andrewlong7578 Рік тому

      Cost isn't everything. If it's a really good player or happens to sound really good that would matter more but given what was changed it would seem to be neither in this case.

  • @edsfkna
    @edsfkna Рік тому +13

    You could put a switch in place of the blend and it would act as mute. And they make battery boxes that you could install on the back of the body and have access to the battery easily.

    • @cameronfrost3225
      @cameronfrost3225 Рік тому +6

      Yep. Hiding the battery behind the pickguard is regrettable.

    • @markdavis4754
      @markdavis4754 Рік тому

      @@cameronfrost3225 I was thinking the same thing however I get the feeling that the video was to make the mods as easy as possible. Personally I would not have bothered with the active preamp and used the money to upgrade the bridge and machine heads.

  • @vladimirkirillovskiy8056
    @vladimirkirillovskiy8056 Рік тому +14

    I'm surprised that you kept the bridge, that is the first thing I would change. As well, I would add shielding, as it is cheap and simple.

    • @hoth2112
      @hoth2112 Рік тому +2

      That was my first thought too. Replacing the stock bridge for a Badass II would be a must imo

    • @Sharpened_Spoon
      @Sharpened_Spoon Рік тому +5

      I mean.. “guitar builder” and doesn’t just route the cavity for the electronics. My expectations weren’t too high.

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 Рік тому

    I have that Relentless Pick Up ready to install in my Yamaha Bass. BTW: Love the red 911 in the shop!

  • @Daddy53751
    @Daddy53751 Рік тому +9

    As a builder, I’ve discovered a couple of things.
    As long as the neck and the fretwork is good, and the body is also good,
    You have 80% of everything you need.
    Decent pots (wired well) and average tuners are also perfectly fine.
    Now about the never ending battle of pickups.
    I’ve made a study of taking the absolute cheapest PUs and potting and experimenting with changing out the magnets,
    (Neodymium are my favorite with different sizes which really changes the sound depending on the size)
    What I also found was you can make some of the cheapest PUs sound amazing!
    (Of course this only applies to passive PUs, and not active)
    Ive come to the conclusion that IMO the lions share of the sometimes ungodly prices of really “high end” PUs is mostly brand name hype.
    My favorite “secret” which is actually no secret at all, but everyone raves about is this,
    As a final step, tape off the fretboard
    (If you don’t you’ll spend forever getting the compound off)
    and take a dremmel with a polishing wheel, and mirror polish the frets.
    Seems like such small and insignificant thing but it feels fantastic!
    Aside from “name” price hikes (I’m talking to you Gibson)
    Most of the cost of high end, especially custom made guitars and basses comes down to the man hours put into the attention to detail.
    The quest for “as close to perfect as possible” is nit picking and time consuming, but really fun.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому +1

      I've not tried potting but it on my wish list. I tend to just use EMG active pickups - no noise. 100% agree with you.

    • @Daddy53751
      @Daddy53751 Рік тому +1

      @@stephenhookings1985 try it out with some cheapie eBay pickups and paraffin wax, you’ll like the results. 👍🏻

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому

      @@Daddy53751 I have a plethora of pickups front my guitars and basses (taken apart on my channel). From what I see I need a stove, some wax, a lot of patience :-). I am quite happy with the EMGs - I guess potting these things reduced the microphonic but I still have to shield. And I find that OK except it takes me an age. Dropping in a quiet at rest pickup ... about the same time as a noisy pickup. But agree - it would likely be fun - even with today's energy prices. Do it after a BBQ cookout:-)

  • @steveceo8447
    @steveceo8447 Рік тому

    I've got the Lusithand Double NFP in my Jazz Bass paired with Dimarzio Area J pickups, love the options for tones it provides

  • @dustinkeller8476
    @dustinkeller8476 5 місяців тому

    Amazing video! Thank you.

  • @carbonvibes
    @carbonvibes Рік тому

    My ears are getting a much deeper and full sound after the upgrade. Sounds really nice. 👍🏻

  • @mythcrab6047
    @mythcrab6047 Рік тому +21

    I grabbed a 70s Aria Japan lawsuit P bass for $125. Went through the same process to restore it with a nice wiring harness and some Fralin pickups. It's almost indistinguishable from my 70s Fender P.

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      @jamescharlesl7662 Рік тому

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      @possibly8180 Рік тому +12

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    • @tednugentlives
      @tednugentlives Рік тому +1

      Yessir that is the best way..those appreciate in value also..70s Ibanez , matsumoku, vantage, electra, even some harmony and hondos were MIJ. Seek and ye shall find..

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      @tednugentlives Рік тому +1

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    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому +2

      I genuinely thought they were talking about the guitar ...

  • @terran3276
    @terran3276 Рік тому +2

    Great video. I had the same situation. I was given a FREE bass that retailed. for $100 or less. It is a Hamer Slammer P Bass. Since the bass was free I decided to do the same thing. Do a conversion to bring it up to par with my other higher ended basses. P Bass is a passive instrument so I wanted to keep it passive. I researched what I needed and brought an Emerson pre-wired electronic harness and replaced the pickups with SD quarter pounders. I brought an actual fender P Bass pick guard and gave it all the pieces to a Fender Certified luthier locally here. He installed all what I brought. After he was finished I took it home and plugged it in my amp and turned the amp up to 10. No buzz or hum noises at all. It Sounds and plays great and I spent $260.00 for everything. It is a fun bass to play. You dont have to spend $1000.00 and above to get a good bass if you take the time. Thanks T.

  • @bobbyseelye92
    @bobbyseelye92 Рік тому

    sounds way brighter! cool video.

  • @scotthamilton3163
    @scotthamilton3163 Рік тому

    That was amazing. Love it

  • @deandee8082
    @deandee8082 Рік тому +1

    yea thats nice, I do this to the good squier strats, the NC's with 60's style necks.. they sound GREAT

  • @4EverLearning757
    @4EverLearning757 Рік тому

    Great video!
    I did a similar thing by putting a third pick up on my jazz bass up by the neck. I wanted the versatility of a Strat on my jazz bass.
    Thanks for doing this video.

  • @robertbright2057
    @robertbright2057 Рік тому +2

    After the upgrade there’s definitely more punch and output nice job.

  • @madatlas3806
    @madatlas3806 Рік тому

    DiMarzio pickups are the tops. I'm eyeballing a set of PJs for my Ibanez GSR190, just saving up for them.

  • @Raytown007
    @Raytown007 6 місяців тому

    The clarity and output is such better with the new pickups. But you can hear the low quality wood of the bass in how it resonates.

  • @user-xf8is8qs2w
    @user-xf8is8qs2w 3 місяці тому +1

    The problem with radiused pickups, is that they don't always match the radius of the neck at the heel (or 20th/21st fret), which leads to unbalanced volume between the strings. I put a Dimarzio Standard PJ set into my bass, and adjusted the individual pole screws (use an allen wrench) of each pickup to match the radius of the neck at the heel of my bass. Nice balanced volume over both pickups. I love DiMarzio pickups...they have a nice "growl" to them when the master volume(s)are turned all the way up. Also, don't forget to adjust the bridge saddles to match the radius of the neck heel.

  • @joewehner9837
    @joewehner9837 Рік тому

    That was a really fun video!

  • @freednighthawk
    @freednighthawk 4 місяці тому

    For the blend control, what you want to do is jumper the signal in and signal out for the neck pickup, and singal in and ground for bridge. Then you can get rid of the blend pot kicking around inside the guitar.

  • @geoffkeeler5106
    @geoffkeeler5106 Рік тому

    Big improvement, more of everything. Money well spent!

  • @LUISPEREZ-vd3cz
    @LUISPEREZ-vd3cz Рік тому +5

    How about making vid of how frequencies work and how to blend them ?
    How hand technique in the mid range changes the whole sound of bass?

  • @b.ewoolcock7755
    @b.ewoolcock7755 Рік тому +2

    I did a similar move with a Rogue XL200B. at the time it was $99. the pickups were $200 but on sale for $125 sooo..why not?
    It was an interesting project and the bass sounded a lot better but not something I would do again. I would just opt for a better bass.
    Love your work sir!

  • @londonsofttissuetherapy
    @londonsofttissuetherapy Рік тому +4

    Great work. Love the pre amp addition but boy is that battery going to be a nightmare to change.

  • @jonofrye2394
    @jonofrye2394 4 місяці тому

    Hi Travis, Interesting video again thanks! Could a passive pickup have made the grade - a lot less hassle and how long does the battery last as it is a bit of a job changing it over as the pickguard will have to be removed? Cheers Jon (Australia).

  • @johnnyscript9669
    @johnnyscript9669 Рік тому

    awesome bro! I see you from Colombia

  • @bazerkly907
    @bazerkly907 Рік тому

    I agree with Jeff regarding Pre-amps! Amps not only amplify the "Good stuff" but they also amplify the "Bad stuff"...

  • @ericstrauch3215
    @ericstrauch3215 Рік тому +1

    The upgrades are great. Sounds ten times better. My question is...How did the playability/feeling of the bass change after the neck/fret upgrades?

  • @DervishNagval
    @DervishNagval Рік тому +3

    I think the success of the experiment can be seen after testing with a live band. Because in the pocket the bass can get lost and have less stability of the "operating frequencies"

  • @colomblanco
    @colomblanco Рік тому +2

    I use steel wool directly on the frets and the wood too. The steel wool doesn't hurt the wood unless it's a polished maple.

    • @TeIegram_Pask_Makes
      @TeIegram_Pask_Makes Рік тому

      👆👆👆,.
      Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, expect more videos.
      (Text me above to claim your prize).

  • @darrenokrain7058
    @darrenokrain7058 Рік тому +147

    Travis is an amazing player that will make any bass sound fantastic. Unfortunately the only was to make $100 bass sound even better is to make it a $500 bass with upgrades.

    • @sortextheguy
      @sortextheguy Рік тому

      Thats $500 less, but i get what you mean

    • @MrNeroDiablo
      @MrNeroDiablo Рік тому +8

      @@sortextheguy Without putting any value on Justin's time or knowledge, although to his credit he did say it was easier to just go buy a higher end instrument. Which would have less risk of will it work or not.

  • @johnclement7473
    @johnclement7473 Рік тому

    Sounds awesome man I also have a cheap Dean bass which is in excellent condition but also needs to be set up and get a good pair strings on it to how good it could sound.

  • @camcook262
    @camcook262 Рік тому +1

    Love it, man!

    • @TravisDykes
      @TravisDykes  Рік тому

      Thank you so much Cam! Means a lot coming from you.

  • @powerforward1955
    @powerforward1955 Рік тому +4

    The difference is unquestionable. My one concern is replacing the battery-looks like it could be a real chore. …wish I had a bud to help me with such a project.

  • @KeithCopeland778
    @KeithCopeland778 Рік тому +2

    NICE!!!! The upgrades definitely added more presence and output!

  • @javadog6288
    @javadog6288 Рік тому +3

    So what was the total cost of the preamp, pickup, strings and knobs? What do you think the labor cost would be to have a technician install them and redo the setup? Also, anybody with a two pickup bass is going to have to cough up another 100-200 dollars for the second one. You may need a new tone capacitor and while you're at it , put in an upgraded output jack like the Pure Tone. All those costs add up fast.

  • @Dmeekification
    @Dmeekification 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video it was cool! You said the preamp made a big difference… did it go from passive to active? I have a bass that has an active EQ (and passive pickups), and I keep reading conflicting information saying that if I don’t plan to use the tone knobs for boosting or cutting and leave them flat, that it’s not really going to benefit me to upgrade my preamp (some say a upgraded preamp will make a difference no matter what)… all I know is that I feel like my bass isn’t giving the sound I want, but when it’s unplugged, I can tell it sounds good naturally. Thanks!

  • @marc942
    @marc942 Рік тому

    When the drummer/engineer decides to pick up his bass and get serious, the perfect vid pops up to motivate my desires. Now if I can just find the time to push away from the mountain of DAW work. 😊 Great information for us newbies. 🎉

  • @donaldromero4999
    @donaldromero4999 Рік тому

    Great vid. I bought cheap squire affinity bass p bass on eBay for 90 dollars. The neck was bowed and could not get it straight. So I replaced it with a mighty mite maple jazz neck and added EMG bass pick ups, I routed a battery case to the back with a dremmel so I don’t have to remove the pick guard to change the battery. It plays and sounds great. The weight is lighter than a traditional p bass. Other bass players can’t seem to put it down after playing it. I eventually replaced the stock tuners with fender highway and Wilkinson brass bridge. I put about $300 in up grades. I learned set up and parts replacement on you tube, If you have a cheap bass, upgrade it yourself. Save money and have some fun. Become your guitar tech. I enjoyed the video

  • @scottmatthews172
    @scottmatthews172 Рік тому +4

    If you have a good enough platform then it's worth the upgrade.
    Awesome demo and nice playing.
    You make that bass sound great.

  • @krishnajayaputra6566
    @krishnajayaputra6566 Рік тому

    I like the passive tone✌️😌

  • @ivan_osorio
    @ivan_osorio Рік тому

    changing that battery is going to be wonderful... hopefully you never forget this plugged in.

  • @stevefiorito5379
    @stevefiorito5379 8 місяців тому

    Yeah, more clarity and definition post mod. I bought a used Chinese Made Fender Squire 50th anniversary P-Bass. I changed the pickups as you did, I left all of that passive, I installed a hipshot bridge system, and I insulated the electronics with copper foil. Sounds great ... not bad for a $100 guitar plus mods ($120). Most important: the neck is amazing! Very playable.

  • @Grumdot
    @Grumdot Рік тому

    I've done something similar to 40-year-old bass that had been sitting in a closet. But I left it passive, and also changed the bridge from the cheap-o crap-o to a good quality high-mass bridge.

  • @MrDucehands
    @MrDucehands Рік тому

    Quite a difference. A bit more jazz bridge pickup only sounding to my ear. As well as a bit more treble than I’m accustomed to but really nice job. Add some overdrive and that a rock bad sleeper

  • @nozzlegoblin1
    @nozzlegoblin1 Рік тому

    Great video! I love this kind of thing. How do you change the battery?

  • @TKOMUSIC405
    @TKOMUSIC405 4 місяці тому

    That bass sounds so amazing

  • @wallacebarnett9208
    @wallacebarnett9208 Рік тому

    It def helped the tone and made it sound beefier....like it

  • @ooj316
    @ooj316 Рік тому +1

    Might I suggest an ohmmeter... The blend pot is a variable resistor which you could desolder and replace with a standard resistor after measuring the pot since you don't need the blend knob. You can go crazy and hollow out some more wood to make room with a drill press and chisel set but I understand why that would make a lot of people nervous.

    • @Gosuminer
      @Gosuminer 6 місяців тому +1

      Same what I wanted to write. A pot turned fully to one side is just a direct connection on one side and a resistor on the other. This takes no space at all.

  • @Slugg-O
    @Slugg-O 6 місяців тому

    I'm a DIY'r so I'll go with the underdog every time. This my seem weird but I like knowing that I MADE that sound. Plus, it's great to tweak it until it plays like butter

  • @johnathanbrabham3241
    @johnathanbrabham3241 Рік тому +2

    You could gone with a middle of the road bass $400 - $500 double pickup bass and good set of strings( why Roto Sounds)?

  • @matthewjohnson7984
    @matthewjohnson7984 Рік тому

    Great vid!

  • @miguellogistics984
    @miguellogistics984 Рік тому +1

    Powerful Pups make a huge difference to how hard one might have to work the instrument against the Amp's Preamp circuit, which then effects the tone.
    I worked only with 18v preamps in the end, and was very happy, and inspired. They might have been making a slight overdrive snarl, and if so, I enjoyed it. My long time fear was distortion destroying speakers from being overdriven somehow.
    Fret dressing is the only thing that physically effects the hand, neck adjustment is only really possible into the 0.??=2mm Set after a proper fret dressing, and that is where the instrument is going to begin to talk the whole truth. I say "begin", because you need a friend with a Walk-in Refrigerator to place the instrument in for 8-12 hours to see what the Neck wood's reaction will be in an adverse circumstance, that is less hazardous than generating heat/fire.
    Heat, cold, humidity, altitude, they all move the wood. Different woods will do different things, Between the Bubinga stringers on the 1006 I have and the Walnut stringered 400's, 2880 abv sea level, in the East, to Iowa, to LA at sea level, to Eastern NC at Sea Level, and Dallas at 750 abv sea level, I became a skeptic of exotics as stringers, and walnut is fine with me, at least these pieces were nice to me.
    If the neck wood endures some temperature adversity, then it is worth a Pre and some pickups. Some will say, 'Why are you putting $500 into a $100 bass? Just get a $600 bass, or a $1000 bass!"
    Best answers are:
    A. Because it is stable: and;
    B. Because it is a known quantity of inspiration in my hands.
    Nothing worse than an uninspiring +$1000 instrument, that does not inspire when the newness is gone.
    A bad answer to people thinking spending money on a $100 instrument retro is, 'Why Spend $500 retroing a $1000 instrument?" Shouldn't it be right coming out of the factory?
    That is sad.
    So many people making so many products. So many performers inspiring us with their relationship with their instruments, that synergy of invisible inspiration.
    Stop looking, stop listening to what you are being told by marketers, and pick up instruments and assess them, go find your inspiration.

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 Рік тому

      Exactly. People forget that wood choice is 95% structural concerns, ie, does it resist string tension well over time. The tone you get from XYZ wood is hardly noticeable, but, you will notice if it pulls a twist or if it has too much or too little bow or bow in the wrong places.
      If all that's good, fret work, or replacing them altogether is usually a big upgrade in terms of playability, and then pickups and a preamp. Sure that'll still land you 500-600 bucks from where you started, but, you'll land in a place where nothing else you can just go buy will feel right, and instruments that don't feel right only get in the way, life's too short for that brand of nonsense.

  • @aarsyl
    @aarsyl Рік тому +4

    Looks awesome! Except for when that battery dies. That's gotta be a fun time

  • @abelincoln95
    @abelincoln95 Рік тому +1

    Travis!! Awesome video! You have to temper the temptation to put a lot of money in a cheap guitar. But if you only have $100 to get started and you find parts to upgrade the starter, you at least upgrade an instrument that you can pay forward to a beginning player.

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 Рік тому

    I'm about to redo an old Cort 4 string. I've modded a ton of guitars but I know nothing about who makes good gear for basses so I'm just going to do all the mods in this video. Thanks.

  • @902MediaUK
    @902MediaUK Рік тому

    dope project

  • @gerson7998
    @gerson7998 Рік тому +1

    I have 2 Squier basses. One fretted(5) and one fretless(4). I installed DiMarzios on both, then I got custom passive electronics, better hardware and they sound very very nice 👌! All under $800 each including the basses!😉! Plus is just a lot of fun doing it!😃!

  • @Thepuffingyank
    @Thepuffingyank Рік тому +1

    personally i don't like arrangements where your only recourse to change a dead battery is to remove every one of those screws, take off the strings, pull everything out, change the battery, then put everything back.
    in my 58 years i have done one remodel of a bass, trust me it needed it desperately cuz whoever had had before me had done some "improvements" a 4 string fender jazz bullet bass. emg pickups. i went to buy it. the guy said it would require some work which is why the price was what it was. so i bought it. and took it home with a pack of new strings and a battery. me an my musician friend carefully took it apart, only to discover the massive understatement 'some work' was. for a ground they had taken a bunch of insulated wireand had carefully wrapped as much around itself as possible, next, they soldered the battery in, no on off switch, and their choice of hot glue to hold the battery in place was commendable.
    so we cut the 2 miles of wire out de-soldered all the connections and completely redid the insides including adding an on of switch and putting a chromeed battery compartment thats accessed from the back
    almost all the holes for the faceplate, striped, so they got puttied and redrilled.
    Thanks whoever did all those things sure did a wonderful thing
    i bet it played like crap though
    unfortunately, the neck was warped and no amount of truss rod adjustments would satisfy its need. by that happy time came around i actually enjoyed playing it. but sadly i was going back to calif and i was not going to be able to play my bass for months so i sold it to my friend
    my message about this is; make changes to your bass, that make sense to you. then have fun playing it

  • @nativeprophet3915
    @nativeprophet3915 Рік тому +1

    Coolest dudes ever. Also I want a Travis Dykes Signature Bass from NEO Guitar Concepts 💎

  • @zapinguin01
    @zapinguin01 Рік тому

    Actually that stock Donner kinda slaps!! Does it feel okay to hold?
    (I think the onboard pre and new strings gave it that sparkle)

  • @greekpapi
    @greekpapi Рік тому

    I build these guitar kits all the time!!! The first one's always rough but by the third attempt you know what to sand, what to tweak.......some of my home made guitars now play and sound better than my high end instruments....

  • @CRguitarsnmore
    @CRguitarsnmore 27 днів тому

    Sweet set up… custom basses are the way to go if you have the time to do them. Up to number project 15 for myself, next time go to Fat Bass Tones for your pots and wire kits, he has been a big blessing for my builds for church.

  • @checkeredpast2720
    @checkeredpast2720 Рік тому

    Definitely a lot brighter sound!

  • @rinchenkhandu6791
    @rinchenkhandu6791 Рік тому

    Isn't that Billy Sheehan's pickups? Relentless it is. Greatly done .

  • @CL_Audio_Tuning
    @CL_Audio_Tuning 2 місяці тому +1

    Here's my take on this situation, you get the 100 bass, 300 worth of upgrades, and the difference to the 1000, put it towards a good multieffects unit or a good amp and you're done! Better spent budget if you ask me. The inexpensive instruments are getting better and better with each passing month, so its probably well wroth it!

  • @Drumsta0904
    @Drumsta0904 Рік тому

    Dope vid!

  • @wusundowma
    @wusundowma Рік тому +4

    I get compliments all the time for the tone of my Fender Bronco (less than $200, brand new) - and I’ve never changed the strings.
    If you play music with a 50’s - 70’s sound, you’ll find that “cheap” with the tone rolled down is actually a very good sound.

  • @sublimingmule6356
    @sublimingmule6356 Рік тому

    Could also use a high grit scotch scotchbrite (I forget what the product is called, but people call it scotchbrite, which is the brand name) it's basically plastic steel wool, to polish the frets. Otherwise, there are plenty of other polishing methods for frets.

  • @JohnstownJohnny
    @JohnstownJohnny Рік тому

    u da man! tks! 🤠

  • @JBass_86
    @JBass_86 Рік тому +6

    Hey! I wonder why making a battery hole in the back wasn't an option and also moving the jack to the bottom and using the jack hole in the pickguard to put the tone knob, so you don't have to jam everything inside that tiny space. Anyway, I loved the video and love the sound of those new pickups!

    • @judih.8754
      @judih.8754 Рік тому

      My thought as well. Move that Jack. Very simple to drill the hole.

  • @YichenWang
    @YichenWang Рік тому +5

    I just LOVE, like I really LOVE making a cheap guitar/bass into a prestige one by installing a bunch of super expansive parts. It's just my guilty pleasure. I've done this on my Squier and a cheap Gibson. And it feels goooood!

  • @DavidMcbrady
    @DavidMcbrady Рік тому

    Hey Travis- I play a stand up 5 string BSX Bass Allegro model that uses individual transducers under each string inside the bridge as it's means of producing sound. The question I have to you is could you recommend a pedal, or if not a pedal, a combo amplifier that you think would work well to get that wirery fuzzy thump sound that magnetic pickup basses have and less roar in the back of the room sound. Is it a matter of a better EQ? Or is the sound just a thing that comes with transducers?. Thank you sir

  • @oscarestrada72oe
    @oscarestrada72oe Рік тому

    Sounds good ❤

  • @nicolasgibbons4683
    @nicolasgibbons4683 Рік тому +6

    I found this really awesome way to make all of your instruments sound a lot better and it doesn’t cost anything! Practice.

  • @waltermorgenroth7872
    @waltermorgenroth7872 Рік тому

    bro the mandolin in the background music goes so hard

  • @samuelboucher1454
    @samuelboucher1454 Рік тому +1

    As soon as his dad started speaking with that thick Southern accent, I knew everything would work in the end.

  • @timothyramseybass2874
    @timothyramseybass2874 Рік тому +1

    I would love a TDykes signature bass honestly.

  • @derekdauchan2741
    @derekdauchan2741 Рік тому +8

    Travis, you're well respected in the bass community, if you designed and sold a nice 4 and 5, competitively priced, you'll sell truckloads. 👏👍✌

    • @TravisDykes
      @TravisDykes  Рік тому +3

      That’s so kind man, I’m really thinking about doing something like that in the future that’s affordable and great quality.
      What would you say would be a decent price range?

    • @derekdauchan2741
      @derekdauchan2741 Рік тому +1

      @@TravisDykes A lot of us respond to the $500 and above range.
      No instrument is perfect, but as you know, If it's a workhorse with good usable tones, it will work on gigs.
      Thanks for all you do, we need the encouragement. 🕆