Leipzig's track 24: a (not very) secret surprise

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  • @emilwandel
    @emilwandel Рік тому +14

    Grewing up in Leipzig I thought every bigger city has such a big Railway station. Oh I was in for a disappointment!

  • @Matjestatar
    @Matjestatar Рік тому +40

    I used to live in Leipzig for seven years. How could could I have missed in all those years. I'll be back for a visit next weekend an I am going to check it out then.

  • @holger_p
    @holger_p Рік тому +34

    Not to forget, on the other end of the station , platform 1-2 are lowered by 26 meters to support tunnel access. It's not that spectacular, but at least a huge open gap and nice architecture.

  • @Alpha_Arc
    @Alpha_Arc Рік тому +24

    i remember going there with parents or grandparents as a kid and looking at the old trains while waiting for them to pick up relatives from the station.

  • @elirome6978
    @elirome6978 Рік тому +15

    resident of Leipzig here, sadly I didn't catch you visiting the Hauptbahnhof. As a fun fact I live right next to the former Eilenburger Bahnhof (the right most green rectangle from 0:55) which they have turned into a park since it was no longer used. The old engine shed is still standing (at least the facade) and will be housing a school soon.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Рік тому +4

      I used to live close to the Bayerischer Bahnhof, the southern most terminus depicted, which remained in operation for quite a time longer. Now the area has become a metro station---one of only a handful of metro stations in Leipzig (4 or 5, you tell me), because there's only one tunnel. Nevertheless, this became immensely convenient for me (and at one point served as literally the only escape route out of the center of the city for one of my colleagues at the time, due to large demonstrations).
      Judging from the city map, the park you mentioned is the Lene-Voigt-Park, right? I've been there one or two times meeting with some friends who lived in the area.

  • @ZaunpfahlsSpieleVideos
    @ZaunpfahlsSpieleVideos Рік тому +13

    as you said: a BR52 really isn't anything special and there are quiet a lot of preserved ones, but having one available to look at so easily and for free is nice. and who doesn't like to look at a nice old steam locomotive? as a bit of train nerd, the other exhibits are much more interesting to me though.

  • @Mike518Mike
    @Mike518Mike Рік тому +3

    The Bookshop in the station is great. It has a Cafe in the back, so not only can you browse for your next read, you also get cheaper and better coffee and cake than in the starbucks. I had to wait for a connection for 2 hours once and i spend them there. It was a pleasant wait.

  • @Opa_Andre
    @Opa_Andre Рік тому +6

    Oh, especially the BR52 is bringing back so many childhood memories. Born in 1964 as a young child it was my dream to become a steam engine driver, all the steam and mechanic was so fascinating compared to the boring electric or diesel engines. My favorite place was at my grandparents garden, less then hundred meters away from a siding with a stop signal for the railroad. I could watch for hours...

  • @paulchenpanther0815
    @paulchenpanther0815 Рік тому +7

    Well, i didn't know about that aswell, so thx for revealing the known secret ^_^

  • @eltfell
    @eltfell Рік тому +9

    The original Class 52 war steam loco had two major issues: First, the rodding was welded and because of that, too heavy. The ride was very unsteady. Very often, it was replaced. Second, the steel of the boiler was brittle because of low quality. The 52 was concieved to last for five years until final victory would have been achieved. It didn't, but there were a lot of 52s with brittle boilers. In Western Germany, the 52 was phased out, in Eastern Gemany, many of the 52s got new boilers. These 52s were called "Reko-52" ("Reko" for "reconstruction").

    • @dannyboy-vtc5741
      @dannyboy-vtc5741 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, they are/were called class 33 in the ex yu, worked for decades, i think can still be seen working in bosnia and maybe even serbia transporting coal from the mine to the plant, i know that before covid there were tourist excursions orgainsed for western rail enthusiasts to enjoy steam power in actual commercial use..

    • @anindrapratama
      @anindrapratama Рік тому

      is the example preserved in Leipzig a "reko" variant?

    • @christiankastorf4836
      @christiankastorf4836 Рік тому

      @@anindrapratama I think so, you may "google" it, its number will help you as the 52s are well documented.

    • @HerrGausF
      @HerrGausF Рік тому

      @@anindrapratama The Reko versions all got new numbers in the 52 8xxx range. This one has its original boiler (and number). Due to the large amount of manufacturers with different sources for steel not all of them were brittle and many were kept in service all over Europe for decades after the war.

    • @eltfell
      @eltfell Рік тому

      @@anindrapratama No, the 52 5448, built by Schichau in 1943, is a more or less original 52. The Reko-52s have 52 8000er numbers. But the 52 5448 looks a little bit like a Reko, because it got the characteristic square-cut preheater on top of the smokebox before the funnel.

  • @brot7486
    @brot7486 Рік тому +2

    I knew about the museum and about the car park but didn’t know the museum train was supposed to hide the car park. Nice Video! Greetings from IC2448, next stop is Leipzig Hbf👌

  • @EElgar1857
    @EElgar1857 Рік тому +3

    I love this station! I don't think the train museum was there when I last visited, so I must go back soon.
    I will never forget arriving here (on a train from Dresden), near the end of "DDR times", and seeing it lonely, rather dirty, and with just one train for all those platforms!

  • @MrMuggemann
    @MrMuggemann Рік тому +1

    My Grandpa actually drove E94 056 when he was in the Verein that owned it in the 1990s. I always visit track 24 when I am in Leipzig, it brings back so many Memories.
    I was pretty sure i drove 52 5448-7 (i mean driving it literally). But looking into it I'm probably missremembering and it was a different Lokomotive. I have to ask Grandpa again.
    Thank you for bringing back so many good memories to me :)

  • @strafrag1
    @strafrag1 Рік тому +1

    Märklin makes all of these great old locomotives in models in different scales. I have many in my HO collection on my layout. Thank you for another super video. Cheers.

  • @peterschutzek325
    @peterschutzek325 Рік тому +1

    Ach. Die Erinnerungen. Ich lebte von 2005 bis 2014 in Leipzig.

  • @namenamename390
    @namenamename390 Рік тому +3

    3:05 that's interesting, Russia (or the USSR back then) has a different track gague than most of Europe, so presumably, the locomotives were built to standard gague, converted to russian gague when they were confiscated and then converted back to standard gague when they were returned.

    • @HerrGausF
      @HerrGausF Рік тому

      Yep, they were. The Soviet Railways had little experience with electric locomotives, so they were eager to get their hands on them. The captured German ones turned out to be too fragile and underpowered for their needs, so they were sold back to East Germany soon afterwards.

  • @ReisenderRaumplaner
    @ReisenderRaumplaner Рік тому

    Thank you for the tip!

  • @Keex11
    @Keex11 Рік тому +8

    Nice play of words there with the donation box :) also..there is a surprising amount of "flying hamburger" artwork on google image search.

  • @joachimschwabe3301
    @joachimschwabe3301 Рік тому +4

    Thanks a lot for this nice video and the historical background. Very thoroughly researched. I used to visit track 24 and also the two small model train displays with my son very often when he was still 1-4 and we lived very close. However, in my memory the "flying Hamburger" (you could even call it the "first ICE train") was even built already in the 1920ies - or at least developed.

    • @rewboss
      @rewboss  Рік тому +7

      The prototype Flying Hamburger was built in 1932; the train you see here was ordered in 1934 and entered service in 1935.

    • @joachimschwabe3301
      @joachimschwabe3301 Рік тому +2

      @@rewboss ok thanks for the clarification. I guess we read the same display on the museum train and in my memory I just mixed up 32 with 23, or I confused it with the period when the German Autobahn was actually started....

  • @DerKiesch
    @DerKiesch 8 місяців тому

    Up to now I did not know that the trains were taken care by volunteers or the history behind that small "train museum". Even though I live close to Leipzig. Thanks internet ^^

  • @michaelbeiyt
    @michaelbeiyt Рік тому +1

    Awesome. Das wusste ich gar nicht. An die Dampflock kann ich mich noch gut erinnern.

  • @mike_chr_
    @mike_chr_ Рік тому

    I was in Leipzig a few days ago, surprised you made a video!

  • @Soguwe
    @Soguwe Рік тому +8

    Someone tell The Tim Traveller

  • @maxliebers
    @maxliebers Рік тому +1

    Well, when travelling to and from Chemnitz you definitely will spend time at the Leipzig HBF. 😅

  • @HerrGausF
    @HerrGausF Рік тому +1

    Another strange fact about the Class 52: During WW2 and shortly after the Soviets captured hundreds of them. During the Cold War they were set aside and conserved as a "strategic reserve" to haul supply trains in the next war, in part because steam engines don't really care about radiation or EMPs. Most were kept around until the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but by then they usually were in a really desolate state.

  • @diedampfbrasse98
    @diedampfbrasse98 Рік тому

    nice shoutout to that ... back when I studied in Leipzig and got back with trains to Dresden on the weekends I found myself often spending some time admiring those old pieces of history.
    Really a shame the DB doesnt put the unused platforms in other stations (Dresden Hbf for example) to the same use ... allowing associations, with historic trains and restauration projects going, to place a unit for safekeeping, PR exposure and hopefully collecting some donations.
    Here in Dresden there are more then one association having their historic pieces on some hidden track far off any public (usually wasting money on renting the place) and its rather annoying for train lovers to find and enjoy them apart from a few public events.

  • @Drwurstable
    @Drwurstable Рік тому +4

    How dare you upload this video just about 24 hours after I had an hour to kill at .... LEIPZIG HBF!!!

  • @JasperJanssen
    @JasperJanssen Рік тому

    There are *so* many extant 52 series locos.

  • @thorstenh.5588
    @thorstenh.5588 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this great video. I really like to see and know new places to visit.

  • @lindenbeck
    @lindenbeck Рік тому

    Thanks for mentioning this. Leipzig isn't far away from Berlin so I'll go one day to this exhebition.

  • @fransbeckman5007
    @fransbeckman5007 Рік тому +2

    Well, I suppose I have a new destination for the next summer!
    I just returned from Hamburg with my grandfather, we did many things (except visiting Reeperbahn, interestingly) and one of the definitive highlights was Miniatur Wunderland. Wonderful place. Sadly my german is, quite frankly, terrible! So I did now speak too much, granddad did all the necessary talking, as he knew more german than I and had some balls. If I find myself in Leipzig in the future I must definitely visit this!

  • @pjotrtje0NL
    @pjotrtje0NL Рік тому

    Went there in 2021 on our way to Prague. Very nice 20mins spent!

  • @toranshaw4029
    @toranshaw4029 Рік тому +1

    When ever visiting my dad, I would often change there after flying in to/from Tegel. I've never been to that part of the station though, mostly the shops... if I had the time, which I didn't really have enough of normally.

  • @NoNoTheGreenOne
    @NoNoTheGreenOne Рік тому

    Very cool!

  • @NicolaW72
    @NicolaW72 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for this very interesting Look behind the Scenes of Leipzig Main Station!😃👍

  • @PiscatorLager
    @PiscatorLager Рік тому +3

    But is there an evil entitiy living in the basement of the Grand Hotel Astoria?

  • @brucequinn
    @brucequinn Рік тому +1

    Very good.
    Leipzig has a good Stasi museum.

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 Рік тому

      Yep, and it was interesting to view their retro (but no doubt effective) methods as compared to what is possible today!

  • @PascalGienger
    @PascalGienger Рік тому

    Sounds a bit like "Union Stations" in the US with sadly only a few still serving trains and not having become a DMV office....
    The Union Stations also put the different railroad services together in one station

  • @onlinegeister
    @onlinegeister Рік тому

    And while you're there, also visit the Hauptbahnhof Halle (Saale), esp. the freight train station; one of the biggest in Germany. All in all, very good video!

  • @13Luk6iul
    @13Luk6iul Рік тому +2

    As always, parking is the problem.

  • @boRegah
    @boRegah Рік тому +2

    My motives? Loco.

  • @christiankastorf4836
    @christiankastorf4836 Рік тому

    As user "I" writes the 52 class, "Kriegslok" was fitted out with a boiler made from simple iron with no carbon added to make it tougher, no advanced alloy, but very easy to weld. Pure iron gets softer and softer when heated but will not suddenly flow away like water as carbon steel does easily, ideal for that early arc-welding in the 1940s, but not durable. Its negative qualities are little strength and little resistence to rust. And the wartime 52s were not fitted out with smoke deflectors, those two "shields" at the forward end of the boiler. They did not have water pre-heaters and very often poor materials like compressed metal powder instead of cast bronze or brass was used for bearing blocks and so on. But being improved with those items and new boilers from better steel in the 1950s they lasted and lasted. So the irony is that many of the operational museum steam locos in Germany today started their life as those WW II "throw away after victory" crap locos.

  • @untruelie2640
    @untruelie2640 Рік тому +1

    Oh, my home city. :D

  • @user-je123
    @user-je123 Рік тому

    When an English speaker helps you discover your country.
    By the way, the train station has similarities with the train station in Stuttgart.
    It was probably the way of building at the time.

  • @derin111
    @derin111 Рік тому +3

    That grand entrance hall is similar to how Hannover Hbf used to feel when I used to arrive there from England, as a child in the 1960s.
    However, they have completely ruined Hannover Hbf, inside and outside(!), by allowing a myriad of totally out of keeping, modern shop fronts all over it! A real shame and pity. 😢
    I also remember those black steam locomotives running. Even, when very young, on the train taking us from Hook of Holland to Hannover! I was born in ‘63, so those trains were still running even in West Germany at least into the mid to late 1960s, if I can remember them.

  • @alvaroludolf
    @alvaroludolf Рік тому

    Come on... I've been to Leipzig yesterday! Why you didn't post this sooner?!?? Cool video, by the way, the station was really amazing.

  • @5mnz7fg
    @5mnz7fg Рік тому +4

    It is really remarkable how much less busy Leinzig Hbf is compared to e.g. Frankfurt Hbf.

    • @joachimschwabe3301
      @joachimschwabe3301 Рік тому +2

      Indeed. Compared to Frankfurt, the connecting platform is just much wider, without kiosks in the middle. And also the transport vehicles have their own space. Very convenient even if the station is very busy and everyone rushes for their trains.

    • @thorstent2542
      @thorstent2542 Рік тому +1

      Look at the map of Germany and Europe, Frankfurt is in the middle of the European economic and population belt. Leipzig is still cut off from its main function of being a distributor to Central and Eastern Europe, also due to the delayed expansion in these directions. The frequently used buses are not slower and you can book them relatively inexpensively (even a short time before the travel date).
      Guck auf die Deutschland und Europakarte, Frankfurt ist mitten im europäischen Wirtschafts und Bevölkerungsgürtel ,. Leipzig ist von seiner Hauptfunktion, ein Verteiler nach Mittel und Osteuropa zu sein, auch durch den verschleppten Ausbau in diese Richtungen, immer noch abgeschnitten. Da sind die viel benutzten Busse auch nicht langsamer und man kann diese relativ preiswert, auch kurzfristig, buchen.

    • @Gebieter
      @Gebieter Рік тому +4

      As mentioned, it is the biggest station by floor area, but doesn't have the most platforms. It dosen't have the most arrivals either. Put the size in comparison to the traveller's and there's the answer why you perceive it the way you do. Leipzig is central, but in the east and therefore generally in a less populated region.
      And Frankfurt is an extreme example... its basicially the heart of the German ICE network and in the very populated Rhein-Main region. I am actually more surprised how busy Hamburg is, since it's a stand-alone-city somewhere in the corner... but this is due to the way the S-Bahn-Network of Hamburg is organized, so the passenger statistic of the station is blown up by locals going through the city. For Leipzig only the tram network is like this...

    • @joachimschwabe3301
      @joachimschwabe3301 Рік тому +2

      @@thorstent2542 Of course the frequency of travelers both as a regional hub as well as for long distance is much larger in Frankfurt than in Leipzig, especially use of trains declined in Leipzig after the reunification. Still there is more space in Leipzig for crowds to move around in peak times, e.g. during Buchmesse or WGT. Frankfurt on Friday or Sunday afternoons is a nightmare. I had to change there regularly for years.

    • @joachimschwabe3301
      @joachimschwabe3301 Рік тому

      @@Gebieter Leipzig has in fact been also the largest terminal station in Europe by the number of tracks in the main hall (26, plus several outer platforms like 1a, 10a etc.). Munich has 32 tracks but in 3 halls. However, when they built the parking garages they removed tracks 25 and 26, and later, in connection with the City Tunnel, also tracks 1-5.

  • @rofltehcat
    @rofltehcat Рік тому

    Aw, they put shops onto the balconies in the entrance hall? When I visited those weren't there yet :(

  • @Gameyfur
    @Gameyfur Рік тому

    Mmm, flying burger.

  • @IIIOOOUS
    @IIIOOOUS 11 місяців тому

    Please dont kill time we still need it

  • @hanshartfiel6394
    @hanshartfiel6394 Рік тому

    I once wanted a coffee and popped into a Starbucks and, like you said, I was surprised.
    No, not pleasantly but in disgust. Someone should sue them for calling this dishwater coffee

  • @dorderre
    @dorderre Рік тому +1

    Your pronounciation of "Leipzich" tells me you've indeed been living among germans for a long time ^^
    EDIT: to get a more saxon dialect touch it schould sound more like "Leibsch"

    • @onurbschrednei4569
      @onurbschrednei4569 Рік тому +1

      haha, was thinking the same thing! Rewboss has gone too native.

  • @John_Weiss
    @John_Weiss Рік тому

    1:15 Das sieht so wie Grand Central Terminal in NYC aus!
    Really, it does look like the main hall of Grand Central Terminal in NYC. But I doubt it has Grand Central's "mistake". You see, the ceiling of the main hall of Grand Central Terminal is a picture of the night sky, with the constellations. Or, is supposed to - it's actually a *_mirror image_*_ of the night sky,_ or as some like to describe it, "what the 'dome of heaven' would look like when viewed from the outside.'" Of course, constellations are based on the positions of stars _as seen from Earth,_ and there is no "dome of heaven" [unless you're reading one of those christianist-homeschooler-textbooks]. So, there is no "looking from the outside in," since the constellations will disappear as the stars change position once you're outside of the Solar System.

  • @fathimasameerasameera7243
    @fathimasameerasameera7243 Рік тому

    Ilove

  • @fennecfox2366
    @fennecfox2366 Рік тому

    The train station in Syberia must be based on this.

  • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
    @Inkyminkyzizwoz 8 місяців тому

    Where's your video about the proposed new railway tunnel in Frankfurt? Because I can't seem to find it anymore

    • @rewboss
      @rewboss  8 місяців тому +2

      That'll be this one: ua-cam.com/video/xsAM8j90chs/v-deo.html

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 8 місяців тому

      @@rewboss Thanks!

  • @Taladar2003
    @Taladar2003 Рік тому +4

    Cars really ruin everything.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Рік тому +2

      Don't be silly, they are pretty useful.

    • @automation7295
      @automation7295 Місяць тому

      It's funny how people say "car really ruin everything", but never say the same thing about motorcycles, moped, bicycles, ambulances, fire trucks, police cars, vans, buses, trucks.

  • @derin111
    @derin111 Рік тому +1

    I really want to visit Leipzig now!
    I’m coming from England to Hannover soon for a few weeks. Can anybody recommend an ok place to stay, say for a couple of nights? Thanks

    • @DenzelPF-jl4lj
      @DenzelPF-jl4lj Рік тому +2

      There are two decent Motel ones in the city centre that I can recommend. Or if you're traveling on a budget you could go to the ibis hotel.

    • @derin111
      @derin111 Рік тому

      @@DenzelPF-jl4ljThank you!

  • @steffenrosmus9177
    @steffenrosmus9177 Рік тому

    Early electric locomotives from the 1930ies and 40ies???? Come one ealry electric locomotives in Germay were built between 1890 and 1095. Do some recheche.

  • @fathimasameerasameera7243
    @fathimasameerasameera7243 Рік тому

    Ilove.....I love you so much

  • @True_NOON
    @True_NOON Рік тому

    Deine stirn ist größer als die fläche über'm city tunnel im (Leipzig)HBF geworden

  • @LowSkillSurvival
    @LowSkillSurvival 3 місяці тому

    Reeks of Urine all day every day. Great place to get your wallet stolen and for watching junkies overdosing.

    • @rewboss
      @rewboss  3 місяці тому +1

      That wasn't the impression I got. Are you thinking of Frankfurt (Main) Hbf?

  • @karlwhite2733
    @karlwhite2733 Рік тому

    I love Leipzig

  • @evel_knerval1730
    @evel_knerval1730 Рік тому

    I like your videos. 🙂👍🧡 #algokommi