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My youngest son, asked me what the word "chivalry" meant. I told him the story of the band playing to calm passengers left behind. Despite being in the same situation themselves. As a musician myself, that story always effected me.
@@stevewheatley243 that's exactly what they did...they knew that they were more women and children than the lifeboats could carry...so they never even attempted to find a seat...and kept playing, hoping to keep panicking to a minimum. The same as the world's richest and powerful men...John J Astor, Gugganheim, and others...they went down in style...many forcing their wives and kids onto lifeboats, promising to see them soon, even when they knew that was never gonna happen.
Well then you told your son the wrong meaning of that word lol. That’s not an example of chivalry. That is more along the line of honor, bravery or professionalism/noble behavior. Chivalry, by definition, is very polite, honest, and kind behavior, especially by men toward women
You can't be much of a Titanic expert when you don't even know that it was Californian, not California, that was laid up for the night somewhere nearby.
Thank you, also called "The Olympic" "Olympia" and said 5 water tight compartments were flooded when it was 6. Not trying to be overly critical but get your facts right if you expect to be respected as a historian.
Also, they say they don't know why they didn't have binoculars, and also that they "just left them behind in the hustle and bustle"... I thought it was pretty well established that some of the crew got switched up right before the voyage, and the guy that had the key to the locker with the binoculars got removed and just forgot to leave the key.
Much incorrect info in this documentary. Olympic, Titanic's sister ship was built first and put into service first. It was the flagship for the White Star Line of the Olympic class ship, not the Titanic. The space where Titanic was built normally held three ships, held both the Olympic and Titanic while being built. Not just the Titanic. it is my understanding that "Shipbuilder Magazine" initially referred to Titanic as "unsinkable".
These “historians” have embarrassingly little knowledge. The reason softer iron rivets were used on the bow and stern was because they had to be pounded in by hand. The riveting machine was able to be used on the flat sides to install the steel rivets, but couldn’t negotiate the curved surfaces. They had binoculars. They were locked in a cabinet and one of the officers who didn’t go on the voyage neglected to hand over the key to the cabinet. SOS doesn’t stand for anything unless you want to imagine it does. It’s simply ... - - - ... in Morse code. Easy to remember, easy to recognize, and fast to key.
Thank you for the correct information. The binoculars would have made zero difference if they had them in crows nest. The calm black sea, clear night and intense cold, they wouldn’t have seen it. If they were on top of the iceberg with the naked eye, those binoculars wouldn’t have seen it either.
I agree. I am not a historian, just a person who has always been drawn to the story of the Titanic, and I've watched lots if documentaries on it. Even I know that the binoculars were on the ship, locked up in a locker & the key was taken accidentally by a crew member who was no longer needed for that voyager & left the ship before it left the dock.
@@haroldofcardboard Well Harold, I only know what I know from watching historical documentaries. Of course that doesn't mean they didn't get the historical facts wrong. But I certainly don't get offended when I am wrong about something like this. The funny thing to me is that you tell everyone that they are wrong, but then fail to offer up any knowledge that you have on the matter! LOL!!!
Do your research. I'm from Belfast. My Great Uncle was a Coal Trimmer on Titanic. 6 bulk heads were flooded by the Ice Berg, Did you test the rivets from the wreck. The Titanic was the Queen. Like I build Adam now Eve. They put the best into Titanic. Those workers in Harland and Wolf were amazing. They were experts.
Wow. I’ve been binging shipwrecks and this channel is a gold mine for Titanic features. Regardless of generation, it’s always instilled mystery as evidenced by the wide range of years these films came out.
It is only interesting because they had a lot of time before the ship sank and only half the people would be chosen to live. Normally with disasters, it’s a quick death, and it’s random who lives and who dies. To prove my point, name the ship that over 9000 died?
This is misleading and factually incorrect. The rivets were not sub standard, nor did at any point they cut corners. The rivets used were perfectly adequate for the time and in fact we’re actually considered the best available for the technology of the day.
Not true metalologists have done a lot of research on this. They have also been to look at the shipyard's records. They used the best ones for much of the ship grade 4 e.g. the front where they considered an impact would happen ...but grade 3 for the bow and other parts.
Not to mention that it wasn't allegedly water tight, it was. Physics are a thing. Also it was never billed as unsinkable. And that's where I bailed on this sensationalized POS
@@emmam-rr8qe that has no bearing on them being below standard or used outside of normal shipbuilding procedures of the time. At the time it was built both the make and usage of those rivets in Atlantic liners was big standard. Sadly I don't think anyone learned anything from Titanic as this comment illustrates. The flaw with Titanic was the belief that human ingenuity and science could render sea travel risk less. In searching for the " what science/the officers/standards/rivets/plating/environment did wrong" implies that it could have been forseen and avoided and we could still today prevent such a thing from happening. That's hubris. The only problem was everything was set up with the expectation that she would remain afloat long enough for rescue... That tech would prevent her foundering prematurely, that tech would ensure her rescue and tech would optimize her survival. It never accounted for acts of God and how that would have to be handled. We still believe such today but in the idea that more regulations and training and devices and engineering can prevent all accidents instead of accepting our vulnerability and planning for that.
"As a result of observing Olympic in the storm, which turned out to be one of the worst of her career, Harland & Wolff decided to make a number of refinements, including changes to Number 1 Hatch. On 13 th. February 1912, Francis Carruthers, Ship Surveyor to the Board of Trade at Belfast, also reported that the shipbuilder was making changes to Titanic as aresult of her older sister’s experience. They were fitting a one-inch-thick steel ‘strap’ on the port and starboard sides of the ship ‘in way of no.6 boiler room and extending three frame spaces forward of the watertight bulkhead at the forward end of the boiler room.’ The strap extended from frame 63 to frame 81 at the landing of strakes J and K, at the ‘upper turn of the bilge.’ At this area, the hull frames were spaced thirty-six inches apart (the furthest distance between frames throughout the entire ship)." ...... "the Board of Trade decided to take the opportunity to examine Olympic when she was drydocked for the replacement of a port propeller blade. Accordingly, Carruthers made a detailed inspection and reported on 6 March 1912.The Board were concerned that there might be other signs of stress, beyond the specific riveted joints which they knew were being modified. Carruthers’ report allayed those fears: Below the waterline starboard side forward in way of no. 6 boiler room in the shell landing of J & K strakes from frame 63 to 74, about 160 rivets were slack and were drilled out and & renewed." Board of Trade. Consultative Document LL No. 22818 refers. ua-cam.com/video/ExYGQkgaNV4/v-deo.html 0:17:19 mins. in.
What’s really interesting is there was a book that was published 14 years BEFORE the Titanic sank titled “Futility” which was a fictional story about a ship named The Titan which hit an iceberg and sank. It was an unintentional prediction of the Titanic disaster. Now, that’s scary!
It was 1000% intentionally done, the book, and the sinking of the ship. 3 of the wealthiest men of the time who all opposed the creation of the federal reserve were on the ship. The federal reserve was created the next year. JP Morgan knew what was going to happen that’s why he didn’t board the ship. Everything is staged and the world is non rotating flat and stationary and NASA admits this countless w
Yes. And back then it didn't get as much attention as documentaries state. There werent even nany photos taken. It was the secons to launch so old news.
So they are back to the rivets....... i remember 20 years ago when the rivets where braught up, tested, and found to be quite good even by todays standards, so these guys saying it was a Domino effect using inferior materials........ come on, the ice berg impacting the hull had 10s of thousands of pounds per inch, nothing could take that! and titanic was said to be built like a battleship, like they were built back then, a modern day ship vs that iceberg the iceberg probably would cut through it like tinfoil
This is full of much this information… For example the rivets were not of poor quality. And I heard 10 things that were wrong before they got to that. There is a book called “On a sea of glass” That is gospel when it comes to the titanic
@@billythekid3234 the hand driven rivets were not made of steel. Yes some did have a higher content of slag in them, BUT they were subject to a stress level, higher than could ever be imagined.
Which is well-deserved. Even 2nd officer David Blair left the Titanic with the key to the binoculars locker so the lookouts didn't have glasses to see the iceberg. Carelessness due to the captain claiming that the ship is "unsinkable" among the whole crew
The sinking was a terrible event that happened in 1912. You can see right at the end how emotional one of the historians got. A lot of events that played out that led up to it. Ships are wonderful pieces of transportation, but operating such a great big boat, you have to really be on your toes due to that if you get it up to over 25 miles an hour in the ocean, it doesn't want to slow down. My grandmother had a friend who bought a ticket to sail onboard the ship. Back then when the ship was new, the laws only were for how much you could load onto a ship when it came to lifeboats. Shortly after the disaster, there were sweeping changes in ship operation. No more speeding in poor weather conditions, the radio had to also be used for weather as well as transmitting personal telegrams, enough lifeboats for everybody and lifeboat drills. When I went on a cruise, and had to change to a different level of the ship to get to the muster station, I chose NOT to take the elevator. That is because, if the ship I was on started to sink, I wouldn't want to be trapped inside an elevator. On the Lusitania, some girls tried to get to the lifeboat on an elevator, the power went out on the elevator and they were trapped.
@@Dagrizzb Indeed! You can see when David Gallo gave his last word in this video that he was getting upset and crying. I don't blame him. When you get some people that were sworn to serve the passengers regardless of class, and they mess up big time, the loss of life can be severe!
The Olympic didn't gain the name of Old Reliable for nothing. Harland and Wolfe were quality builders. Best thing is don't hit an iceberg with 44 thousand tonne ship.
Poor people are still treated terribly in 2021. If you don't believe me, try being homeless without a car for three days and notice how hard it is to sleep anywhere and how much one's mind struggles after only missing a few days of good rest. If you really want to know how the poor are treated, keep living on the street until the police come because, believe me, they will. Then compare how you are treated by the police and the community at large when they think you aren't a homeless person in abject poverty. I challenge anyone to try this and see if it doesn't open your eyes to things that are going on in society that you never even had the smallest notion were occurring but I warn you that it's horrifying and yet important if we're going to do something different with regards to our attitude towards our fellow living beings.
You are absolutely 💯% dead on. Even worse when you're a survivor of abuse and trauma, have Complex PTSD and bipolar becuse of it, and have no or crappy insurance. Then they want to wonder why people commit suicide or do other horrible things. The sad part, it doesn't have to be like that. Humans suck. We can so easily fix our social problems, but greed and selfishness reign Supreme. Along with most don't care what happens to people, until it happens to them, or someome they love.
Humans treat the poor much better than other species. Natural Selection states that those that are unable to look after themselves are supposed to die to improve the gene pool, but humans in most cases do not allow that to happen. You should be grateful, not complaining.
I have observed in the USA right now many are being considered steerage not really worth living..so nothing has changed and i ponder what will it take for us to value all life?
This is why the owner cannot skimp on the lifeboats and the captain cannot speed through the ice field. And why the bridge officers should share a pair of binoculars with the lookouts. It's hubris, condescension, pride, ridiculousness.
I always think that in my earlier birth i died with titanic. I love titanic, i have lot of affection towards the ship of dreams... The Royal Steamer Titanic 😊
Another unfounded and actually absurd comment about the Californian. They had one Marconi operator. He wasn't suppose to man the set 24/7. He DID get a very RUDE response from Titanic but he merely turned in for the night as per usual. He wasn't dissing Titantic. People who should know better will never stop with this endless barrage of nonsense. I guess they'll sya whatever they think will get them even a 3 second sound bite on a 3rd rate Documentary.
This doc is pretty old though, right? People did not have access to digital research means... I think that's why these "experts" get away with so much misinformation and factual errors..... Just my amateur's opinion.
The whole idea of life boats at the time was another ship would be there to ferry passengers on to. There was a coal strike at the time. there should have been other ships out there.
Correction on the binos on Titanic. The binoculars were stashed in a locker in the crow's nest -- where they were most needed -- but the key to the locker wasn't on board. That's because a sailor named David Blair, who was reassigned to another ship at the last minute, forgot to leave the key behind when he left. The key was in Blair's pocket.
What is worst of all about that ragic disaster is the first and second class got the right to board the lifeboats before the third class. If anyone had to survive, it had to be the selfish, greedy, vile first class 🤬 Everyone on that ship was a life, a human being deserving of life and saving. Shameful
I had to stop watching this "documentary" because I was becoming incensed by all of the inaccuracies, pure fiction being put forth as fact, and supposed Titanic EXPERTS referring to the Californian as the California and the Olympic as the Olympia. Absolutely appalling trash, and utterly disrespectful to every aspect of the horrific tragedy that night.
I read once, that had Captain Smith been less paralyzed by fear, he might have ordered many of the stateroom doors be taken off their hinges and thrown into the water, for people to catch hold of and use as makeshift life rafts, and that might have saved more lives. However, we know that the temperature of the water was so cold that it may not have made any difference. We're in another period of "wretched excess" right now: It's only a matter of time when some of these ultra-wealthy space tourists explode in a rocket. The only good news there is, they won't be taking a lot of the working class / third class passengers with them.
rivets were done by machines on the sides (no curved part of ship) on the curved parts (hull stern) rivets were done by hand. no moon was visible that night, had set at 4:40pm. . binoculars were on board but locked up without key on board. running ships at close to high speed, thru this route, was standard procedure in this day and age. a ship was closer than the Californian, the Samson, which witnessed the sinking of Titanic from afar without helping because they were illegally whaling, afraid of being caught. survivors do NOT agree on what song was played last as Titanic sank. DONT kid yourself the class structure in 1912 is no different than today. just look how the rich and powerful, and what they get away with. SO MANY inaccuracies in this video. a ship
Its really difficult to understand the huge number of ill omens that presented themselves that night ! Its almost as though, no matter what the crew did to avert such a possible tragedy during the voyage, It was going to sink to the bottom of the north Atlantic, regardless ! Speeding through an ice-field,No binoculars for the look outs, The nearest ship , the Californian, had switched off its wireless for the night, and Its Captain failed to investigate the reason for the rockets, If he had ordered the wireless operator to monitor the set, then He would have known the ship was in distress, and Captain Lord would have become the Hero of the hour. Too many fundamental errors were made on that fateful night.
I am very distressed that the nearest ship to Titanic is repeatedly referred to as the "CALIFORNIA," just after the 37:35 mark, and also at 37:42, and several instances earlier, when Wikipedia, and all the other histories of Titanic I've read, state the name of the nearby ship was actually "CALIFORNIAN." I wouldn't write about this, except that it happens so frequently that I had to go back and research it again, in case I was wrong. I wasn't. It makes a difference! Separately, earlier in the narrative, an expert says that "Titanic was "TAUNTED" as unsinkable, when the phrase he was trying to use was "TOUTED." These speech errors should be corrected at least in chyron writing, so that the viewers will know exactly what the facts are.
No point worrying about facts while watching this David. So many fallacies and mistakes that you can't take it seriously. It's just mediocre entertainment at this point. Not the uploaders fault though.
The whole documentary is full of errors and conjecture. SOS doesn't stand for "Save our souls" it is used as it is easy to remember and easy to transmit and CQD doesn't stand for "Come quick, disaster" either. If they're perpetuating these errors, how much else have they got wrong?
The make of the steel or rivets has no bearing on the problem that caused the ship to sink. The number one problem was the captain pressured by higher ups to run as fast as you can, even if its dark out and iceberg warnings. Thats is the only reason why she sank, sunk, drop to the bottom of the ocean.😢 No matter if its a ship of today and hit an iceberg like the titanic did ot would sink, too. Look at concordia. Hit the reef and sank, sunk. If it didn’t get hung up on the reef she would be at the bottom of the ocean.
Colter Brog: Your statement is so true and often overlooked by filmmakers of so-called "historians." Many just slap a documentary or movie together without verifying the facts!
Love all the documentaries.. but this one does annoy me. The rivet nonsense is just nonsense. The bit about the man being entombed is nonsense too. Still enjoy tho, thanks Mark
Hello HRC, I enjoy sharing and preserving the Titanic documentaries / films for all to see and for you to make up your own mind on what happened with the events. I try to stay away from the switch theories with the Titanic and Olympic.
@@titanicfilmsbymark well anyone with any basic knowledge of the Titanic will know the switch theory is utter nonsense and abide only held by brainless morons.
I'm with you on that, it's irritating that rivet theory still has traction. Titanic was an incredibly well made vessel. It was built to the best of human ability at the time. The rivets weren't the problem. Striking a massive iceberg that might as well have been pure granite was the problem.
So many anecdotes and things that frame the crew and the wireless operators, as well as the ship builders and even captain smith as all incompetent. Almost all these breakdowns of highly personal encounters all sound made up to a degree. Im aware we learned many things from the survivors, but some of these “historians” are kind of seeming like they are just making stuff up. Let’s take it for what it is, A missed warning (a big mistake) Some callous nature Acting too late
SOS was chosen as a distress call because they're among the easiest to remember. Three dots, three dashes, three dots. If not mistaken, the Germans were the first to use such a call. The binoculars weren't left behind. The keys to the box were.
I'd be interested to see how long it would take for the biggest cruise ship as of 2021 to sink? I mean if the biggest cruise ship was in the situation where it would sink one way or another
The guy that had a key to a storage room that held the binoculars was told last minute he wouldn't be sailing on titanic, they forgot to get the key, but because it was clear weather they figured didn't need them anyway, imagine that, instead of just breaking the lock they blew it off basically. ?????????????
Yes, and they were right. Binoculars at the time were not remotely the high quality they are today. The deciding factor isn't even magnification, it is the light or rather how much light they let through. It was a dark, moonless night and a "sea of glass". Binoculars would not have done anything to help here, on the contrary, they might have been a hindrance. They would have stared into nothing but a black nothingness looking through them. Similar to most people saying "If only they have had more life boats!" then what? They didn't even manage to release the life boats they had in time, what good would more life boats been? They'd cluttered the deck more, making the evacuation more difficult, probably. With Titanic, there is more to it than meets the eye...
The materials logs clearly show the type of rivets that were used on the titanic and #3 were used on the side of the bow and #4 in other areas. they are available to view for the nay sayers saying Islam did not cut corners.
Instead of launching two at a time, it would have been launching eight at a time, all along the side of the boat deck because no restrictions would have been required for boarding the lifeboats. All of the lowering davits would have been in use, not just one set on each side of the ship. Since only women and children were allowed, there were security issues, and it took a lot of time to deal with the inexperienced crew, poorly prepared passengers and at the end, scarcity of lifeboat seats.
I mean no disrespect to this channel as there is lot of great material here, but this documentary is awful. It’s filled with inaccuracies and misinformation. A lot of this has been discussed already, but there was nothing out of the ordinary about the rivets; they were standard for the day. The supposed conversation between Captain Smith and the first class passenger about the ice berg warning has never been mentioned in any reputable book, documentary or otherwise. There was never a worker entombed in the hull. Ever. This never happened. I could go on and on. No disrespect to you Mark, but I’d probably remove this video.
Lol I think he was just using that as a way of feeling how cold that water was, if someone actually wanted to for some dumb reason. There actually are people who take ice baths for 10-15 minutes.....but any longer and it's a very bad day.
Actually, a huge section of the keel was torn away, and found in a place far from the wreck. This ship DID NOT hit an iceberg. Passenger Manifest? This was a Terrorist act brought to you by the soon to be CENTRAL BANK!!! Note the date it happened. Patents circa 1912 regarding "Torpedoes". Might wanna take a lesson on "cognitive dissonance" while you're at it.
@@timothyreed8417 It was a msm doc that was made about a decade ago. I think it was actually the History channel, or AE. Even so It was a submersible, and the deal is, the huge piece of keel they found far away from the rest of the ship had to have been hit with FORCE enough to move it as far as it did 'before' it started to sink.. The size it is, there's no way it got there according to the LAWS of physics. Hell, they didn't even know it existed until this very Doc I'm speaking about. Remember, this was all done before this AWAKENING the world is undergoing right now (CENSORSHIP). Regardless, I'm sure there are MANY others who remember the Doc.. Try finding it 👍
Im not sure what this is as it seems to have a decidedly different narrative than literally every other current and up to date Titanic. like the binoculars, the telegraph the weather all outdated info
They did not put her engine’s in reserve if doing that you would have seriously damaged the low pressure and high pressure pistons on both starboard and port engines 20:28-20:32 This guy has to read the Titanic inquiry project, United States Senate Inquiry, Day 17 U.S Navy Department of Bureau of Steam Engineering I highly recommended reading this if you are interested in marine steam engineering or into steam ships and boats of that era
They didn’t consider third class passengers as people more like dirt but it was their bread and butter because they got most of their money from the third class passengers it’s really sad such loss of life
There is no actual evidence to suggest that Third Class passengers were locked below decks. Those who gave evidence at the American Inquiry made no such claims.
Their is a documentary on UA-cam that showed when they went inside the ship with a small ROV, there were two gates locked. Also that's why there were hardly any 3rd class survivors. They kept some locked below.@@dovetonsturdee7033
Made it about 6 minutes in. They didn't go with #3 because they were cheaper for the bow and stern, they used #3 in those areas because the machine used for #4 rivets didn't fit. They also didn't have more lifeboats because the law at the time was 16 for vessels over 10 tons. Titanic actually went over that and had 20, of which there was only time to launch 18. Lifeboats at the time were to ferry people from a sinking boat to a safe one. They weren't meant to float in the middle of the ocean and wait for rescue. WSL didn't cut corners or try to save money on the Olympic class ships. Harland & Wolff were one of the leading shipyards of the time.
The shipping companies dictated to the Board of Trade regarding the number of lifeboats needed. Ismay only wanted to save the First Class passengers and officers, so there were only 20 lifeboats. Unfortunately, they should have practiced launching the lifeboats, so that they could have gotten 48 boats off in an hour (loading everyone) instead of the stress of inexperienced seamen selectively loading women and children while launching only a pitiful few lifeboats.
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One of the worst docs I've seen on titanic.........
I love this documentary! Keep going!
My youngest son, asked me what the word "chivalry" meant. I told him the story of the band playing to calm passengers left behind. Despite being in the same situation themselves. As a musician myself, that story always effected me.
Sorry, but chivalry is about men deferring to women. Gentlemanly behavior.
@@stevewheatley243 that's exactly what they did...they knew that they were more women and children than the lifeboats could carry...so they never even attempted to find a seat...and kept playing, hoping to keep panicking to a minimum.
The same as the world's richest and powerful men...John J Astor, Gugganheim, and others...they went down in style...many forcing their wives and kids onto lifeboats, promising to see them soon, even when they knew that was never gonna happen.
@@zonker-TM yeah but I'd call that professionalism. Chivalry is really about men and women.
Well then you told your son the wrong meaning of that word lol. That’s not an example of chivalry. That is more along the line of honor, bravery or professionalism/noble behavior.
Chivalry, by definition, is very polite, honest, and kind behavior, especially by men toward women
Your son just lost all respect for you. 😂😂😂
You can't be much of a Titanic expert when you don't even know that it was Californian, not California, that was laid up for the night somewhere nearby.
Thank you, also called "The Olympic" "Olympia" and said 5 water tight compartments were flooded when it was 6. Not trying to be overly critical but get your facts right if you expect to be respected as a historian.
Also, they say they don't know why they didn't have binoculars, and also that they "just left them behind in the hustle and bustle"... I thought it was pretty well established that some of the crew got switched up right before the voyage, and the guy that had the key to the locker with the binoculars got removed and just forgot to leave the key.
There are many additional errors beyond that one
Thank you for this upload...
I'm grateful for the tears of the last historian as I was shedding them well before he did.
RIP all those poor souls....
Part of history we shall never forget. God bless the poor people who died and the ship of dreams. ♥️
Amen
Not the first or the last. Get a life
@@rickyt43515 Oh do shut up.
i think this is the best narrative of this tragic emotional disaster . Many thanks for sharing !!
Much incorrect info in this documentary. Olympic, Titanic's sister ship was built first and put into service first. It was the flagship for the White Star Line of the Olympic class ship, not the Titanic. The space where Titanic was built normally held three ships, held both the Olympic and Titanic while being built. Not just the Titanic. it is my understanding that "Shipbuilder Magazine" initially referred to Titanic as "unsinkable".
These “historians” have embarrassingly little knowledge.
The reason softer iron rivets were used on the bow and stern was because they had to be pounded in by hand. The riveting machine was able to be used on the flat sides to install the steel rivets, but couldn’t negotiate the curved surfaces.
They had binoculars. They were locked in a cabinet and one of the officers who didn’t go on the voyage neglected to hand over the key to the cabinet.
SOS doesn’t stand for anything unless you want to imagine it does. It’s simply ... - - - ... in Morse code. Easy to remember, easy to recognize, and fast to key.
Thank you for the correct information. The binoculars would have made zero difference if they had them in crows nest. The calm black sea, clear night and intense cold, they wouldn’t have seen it. If they were on top of the iceberg with the naked eye, those binoculars wouldn’t have seen it either.
I agree. I am not a historian, just a person who has always been drawn to the story of the Titanic, and I've watched lots if documentaries on it. Even I know that the binoculars were on the ship, locked up in a locker & the key was taken accidentally by a crew member who was no longer needed for that voyager & left the ship before it left the dock.
13 minutes in and I’m stunned how inaccurate this is.
Colter, Beverly and Nick. You are each wrong.
@@haroldofcardboard Well Harold, I only know what I know from watching historical documentaries. Of course that doesn't mean they didn't get the historical facts wrong. But I certainly don't get offended when I am wrong about something like this. The funny thing to me is that you tell everyone that they are wrong, but then fail to offer up any knowledge that you have on the matter! LOL!!!
Do your research. I'm from Belfast. My Great Uncle was a Coal Trimmer on Titanic. 6 bulk heads were flooded by the Ice Berg, Did you test the rivets from the wreck. The Titanic was the Queen. Like I build Adam now Eve. They put the best into Titanic. Those workers in Harland and Wolf were amazing. They were experts.
It is conveniently forgotten that the same techniques were used to build Olympic - which didn't sink.
Wow. I’ve been binging shipwrecks and this channel is a gold mine for Titanic features. Regardless of generation, it’s always instilled mystery as evidenced by the wide range of years these films came out.
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I love the titanic and it's fascinating history!❤️ It is sad that many died
Hey just watching the movie led me here it's sad that they were so inept they just hit an iceberg
disregard the information from this doc... Seek out other content with actual facts and information.... :)
It is only interesting because they had a lot of time before the ship sank and only half the people would be chosen to live. Normally with disasters, it’s a quick death, and it’s random who lives and who dies. To prove my point, name the ship that over 9000 died?
@@JetFire9Do tell.
SO TO ME IS THAT RICH PEOPLE ON THE TITANIC WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ICE BERG WARNINGS THEY PAID THE PRICE FOR IGNORING THE WARNINGS
This is misleading and factually incorrect. The rivets were not sub standard, nor did at any point they cut corners. The rivets used were perfectly adequate for the time and in fact we’re actually considered the best available for the technology of the day.
Not true metalologists have done a lot of research on this. They have also been to look at the shipyard's records. They used the best ones for much of the ship grade 4 e.g. the front where they considered an impact would happen ...but grade 3 for the bow and other parts.
Oh, You must have been there. Neat to hear from you.
@@TempoDrift1480 not me but presumably the people entering information into the Harland and Wolf records were!
Not to mention that it wasn't allegedly water tight, it was. Physics are a thing. Also it was never billed as unsinkable. And that's where I bailed on this sensationalized POS
@@emmam-rr8qe that has no bearing on them being below standard or used outside of normal shipbuilding procedures of the time. At the time it was built both the make and usage of those rivets in Atlantic liners was big standard.
Sadly I don't think anyone learned anything from Titanic as this comment illustrates. The flaw with Titanic was the belief that human ingenuity and science could render sea travel risk less. In searching for the " what science/the officers/standards/rivets/plating/environment did wrong" implies that it could have been forseen and avoided and we could still today prevent such a thing from happening. That's hubris.
The only problem was everything was set up with the expectation that she would remain afloat long enough for rescue... That tech would prevent her foundering prematurely, that tech would ensure her rescue and tech would optimize her survival. It never accounted for acts of God and how that would have to be handled. We still believe such today but in the idea that more regulations and training and devices and engineering can prevent all accidents instead of accepting our vulnerability and planning for that.
"As a result of observing Olympic in the storm, which turned out to be one of the worst of her career, Harland & Wolff decided to make a number of refinements, including changes to Number 1 Hatch. On 13 th. February 1912, Francis Carruthers, Ship Surveyor to the Board of Trade at Belfast, also reported that the shipbuilder was making changes to Titanic as aresult of her older sister’s experience. They were fitting a one-inch-thick steel ‘strap’ on the port and starboard sides of the ship ‘in way of no.6 boiler room and extending three frame spaces forward of the watertight bulkhead at the forward end of the boiler room.’ The strap extended from frame 63 to frame 81 at the landing of strakes J and K, at the ‘upper turn of the bilge.’ At this area, the hull frames were spaced thirty-six inches apart (the furthest distance between frames throughout the entire ship)."
...... "the Board of Trade decided to take the opportunity to examine Olympic when she was drydocked for the replacement of a port propeller blade. Accordingly, Carruthers made a detailed inspection and reported on 6 March 1912.The Board were concerned that there might be other signs of stress, beyond the specific riveted joints which they knew were being modified. Carruthers’ report allayed those fears: Below the waterline starboard side forward in way of no. 6 boiler room in the shell landing of J & K strakes from frame 63 to 74, about 160 rivets were slack and were drilled out and & renewed."
Board of Trade. Consultative Document LL No. 22818 refers.
ua-cam.com/video/ExYGQkgaNV4/v-deo.html 0:17:19 mins. in.
What’s really interesting is there was a book that was published 14 years BEFORE the Titanic sank titled “Futility” which was a fictional story about a ship named The Titan which hit an iceberg and sank. It was an unintentional prediction of the Titanic disaster. Now, that’s scary!
The world is a stage, my friend.
It was 1000% intentionally done, the book, and the sinking of the ship. 3 of the wealthiest men of the time who all opposed the creation of the federal reserve were on the ship. The federal reserve was created the next year. JP Morgan knew what was going to happen that’s why he didn’t board the ship. Everything is staged and the world is non rotating flat and stationary and NASA admits this countless w
If the world is a stage, that book could have been used as the basis of a script for their 1912 production.
A lot of people don't know an iceberg is 90per cent under water, lol didn't learn much but think knew that by age of 6
So many documentary and films were made about this ship. Titanic must be the world's most famous ship. That's because it sank.
It's a beautiful ship as well
Yes. And back then it didn't get as much attention as documentaries state. There werent even nany photos taken. It was the secons to launch so old news.
So they are back to the rivets....... i remember 20 years ago when the rivets where braught up, tested, and found to be quite good even by todays standards, so these guys saying it was a Domino effect using inferior materials........ come on, the ice berg impacting the hull had 10s of thousands of pounds per inch, nothing could take that! and titanic was said to be built like a battleship, like they were built back then, a modern day ship vs that iceberg the iceberg probably would cut through it like tinfoil
Moreover, Olympic was built by the same yard of the same materials, and was a successful liner until withdrawn in 1934.
A scary shocking but very interesting account of the ship hitting the iceberg and the sinking
This is full of much this information… For example the rivets were not of poor quality. And I heard 10 things that were wrong before they got to that. There is a book called “On a sea of glass” That is gospel when it comes to the titanic
sOME OF THE RIVETS WERE NOT THE BEST, I WATCHED THE SHOW ON THEM,,,, THEY DID TEST THEM AND FOUND SOME HAD LESS STEEL AND MORE SLAO AS THEY JUST SAID.
@@billythekid3234 the hand driven rivets were not made of steel. Yes some did have a higher content of slag in them, BUT they were subject to a stress level, higher than could ever be imagined.
This doc is hella villianizing the crew....
Which is well-deserved. Even 2nd officer David Blair left the Titanic with the key to the binoculars locker so the lookouts didn't have glasses to see the iceberg. Carelessness due to the captain claiming that the ship is "unsinkable" among the whole crew
The sinking was a terrible event that happened in 1912. You can see right at the end how emotional one of the historians got. A lot of events that played out that led up to it. Ships are wonderful pieces of transportation, but operating such a great big boat, you have to really be on your toes due to that if you get it up to over 25 miles an hour in the ocean, it doesn't want to slow down. My grandmother had a friend who bought a ticket to sail onboard the ship. Back then when the ship was new, the laws only were for how much you could load onto a ship when it came to lifeboats. Shortly after the disaster, there were sweeping changes in ship operation. No more speeding in poor weather conditions, the radio had to also be used for weather as well as transmitting personal telegrams, enough lifeboats for everybody and lifeboat drills. When I went on a cruise, and had to change to a different level of the ship to get to the muster station, I chose NOT to take the elevator. That is because, if the ship I was on started to sink, I wouldn't want to be trapped inside an elevator. On the Lusitania, some girls tried to get to the lifeboat on an elevator, the power went out on the elevator and they were trapped.
Thank you for sharing
Imagine the energy and mass of a ship such a size of the Titanic moving at 25mph.
@@Dagrizzb Indeed! You can see when David Gallo gave his last word in this video that he was getting upset and crying. I don't blame him. When you get some people that were sworn to serve the passengers regardless of class, and they mess up big time, the loss of life can be severe!
The Olympic didn't gain the name of Old Reliable for nothing. Harland and Wolfe were quality builders. Best thing is don't hit an iceberg with 44 thousand tonne ship.
Poor people are still treated terribly in 2021. If you don't believe me, try being homeless without a car for three days and notice how hard it is to sleep anywhere and how much one's mind struggles after only missing a few days of good rest. If you really want to know how the poor are treated, keep living on the street until the police come because, believe me, they will. Then compare how you are treated by the police and the community at large when they think you aren't a homeless person in abject poverty. I challenge anyone to try this and see if it doesn't open your eyes to things that are going on in society that you never even had the smallest notion were occurring but I warn you that it's horrifying and yet important if we're going to do something different with regards to our attitude towards our fellow living beings.
You are absolutely 💯% dead on. Even worse when you're a survivor of abuse and trauma, have Complex PTSD and bipolar becuse of it, and have no or crappy insurance. Then they want to wonder why people commit suicide or do other horrible things. The sad part, it doesn't have to be like that. Humans suck. We can so easily fix our social problems, but greed and selfishness reign Supreme. Along with most don't care what happens to people, until it happens to them, or someome they love.
Totally agree with you, been there, the stress is unbelievable.
Humans treat the poor much better than other species. Natural Selection states that those that are unable to look after themselves are supposed to die to improve the gene pool, but humans in most cases do not allow that to happen. You should be grateful, not complaining.
Didn’t they send CQD before they did SOS?
I have observed in the USA right now many are being considered steerage not really worth living..so nothing has changed and i ponder what will it take for us to value all life?
Ships aren't designed to hit 200,000 ton icebergs
This is why the owner cannot skimp on the lifeboats and the captain cannot speed through the ice field. And why the bridge officers should share a pair of binoculars with the lookouts. It's hubris, condescension, pride, ridiculousness.
20:09 The ship scrapes the side of Titanic?
I always think that in my earlier birth i died with titanic.
I love titanic, i have lot of affection towards the ship of dreams...
The Royal Steamer Titanic 😊
imagine had a photographers camera survived the sinking during that dreadful night.
A very interesting well told story about the disaster from beginning to end
When he said toys that was felt deep in the soul
It’s a Shame that a Ship Like the Titanic fell to a collision with an Iceberg and the cause of so many deaths.
Her identical twin lasted for years
May I have a request Mark?!
10:05 - there was nothing around that could compare to Titanic. I guess we are not gna mention the Olympic was the near identical older sister, lol.
The Olympic is the one on the bottom of the ocean.
Good job 👏
The heavy breathing noice at around 7:25 scared the shit out of me😧
7:02
superb ..got emotional at the end
Another unfounded and actually absurd comment about the Californian. They had one Marconi operator. He wasn't suppose to man the set 24/7. He DID get a very RUDE response from Titanic but he merely turned in for the night as per usual. He wasn't dissing Titantic. People who should know better will never stop with this endless barrage of nonsense. I guess they'll sya whatever they think will get them even a 3 second sound bite on a 3rd rate Documentary.
This doc is pretty old though, right? People did not have access to digital research means... I think that's why these "experts" get away with so much misinformation and factual errors..... Just my amateur's opinion.
Yep
Titanic is the reason for "SOLAS" and today's safer maritime voyages 😊 but still we are at mercy of waters😢
The whole idea of life boats at the time was another ship would be there to ferry passengers on to. There was a coal strike at the time. there should have been other ships out there.
Correction on the binos on Titanic. The binoculars were stashed in a locker in the crow's nest -- where they were most needed -- but the key to the locker wasn't on board. That's because a sailor named David Blair, who was reassigned to another ship at the last minute, forgot to leave the key behind when he left. The key was in Blair's pocket.
WE ALL KNOW THAT
@@annekaufman954 really? Becuse the majority that I've talked to, didn't know that. Any more pearls of wisdom from the peanut gallery?
@@ErinBujalski ERIN,TY IKNEW THEY WERE LOCKED AWAY BUT DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN THE CROWS NEST!
@@billythekid3234 welcome!
@@ErinBujalski TY Erin, nice to meet you!
I wish ships still looked like floating palaces
Fantastic.👀. documentary well done.🤔.
Some of these speakers are a little over the top. And some info I believe to be wrong but good show overall.
Facts>beliefs
What is worst of all about that ragic disaster is the first and second class got the right to board the lifeboats before the third class. If anyone had to survive, it had to be the selfish, greedy, vile first class 🤬 Everyone on that ship was a life, a human being deserving of life and saving. Shameful
Thank you Mark!
The Olympic was unsinkable but her two younger sisters were not
Cobblers !!!
Olympic wasn’t classed as unsinkable
I had to stop watching this "documentary" because I was becoming incensed by all of the inaccuracies, pure fiction being put forth as fact, and supposed Titanic EXPERTS referring to the Californian as the California and the Olympic as the Olympia. Absolutely appalling trash, and utterly disrespectful to every aspect of the horrific tragedy that night.
Its sad that so many people died when the titantic went down
I read once, that had Captain Smith been less paralyzed by fear, he might have ordered many of the stateroom doors be taken off their hinges and thrown into the water, for people to catch hold of and use as makeshift life rafts, and that might have saved more lives.
However, we know that the temperature of the water was so cold that it may not have made any difference.
We're in another period of "wretched excess" right now: It's only a matter of time when some of these ultra-wealthy space tourists explode in a rocket. The only good news there is, they won't be taking a lot of the working class / third class passengers with them.
There is a statue where I live in England of Captain Smith. He was a brave hero.
HOW WAS HE A HERO?
@@billythekid3234 By choosing to go to the bottom with the ship.
@@RealEarlofEssex no he was a conspirator and a fraud.
During the sinking it is said that captain Smith was saving a baby who was drowning
@@lawrencetuel2575 and its said before the iceberg hit earlier that night Captain Smith was getting drunk in the dining room
It was a night of utter horror for all onboard,God bless them
This video has a lot of misinformation in it. The quality of steel wasn’t poor in fact it was the highest quality of day.
rivets were done by machines on the sides (no curved part of ship) on the curved parts (hull stern) rivets were done by hand. no moon was visible that night, had set at 4:40pm. . binoculars were on board but locked up without key on board. running ships at close to high speed, thru this route, was standard procedure in this day and age. a ship was closer than the Californian, the Samson, which witnessed the sinking of Titanic from afar without helping because they were illegally whaling, afraid of being caught. survivors do NOT agree on what song was played last as Titanic sank. DONT kid yourself the class structure in 1912 is no different than today. just look how the rich and powerful, and what they get away with. SO MANY inaccuracies in this video. a ship
Its really difficult to understand the huge number of ill omens that presented themselves that night ! Its almost as though, no matter what the crew did to avert such a possible tragedy during the voyage, It was going to sink to the bottom of the north Atlantic, regardless ! Speeding through an ice-field,No binoculars for the look outs, The nearest ship , the Californian, had switched off its wireless for the night, and Its Captain failed to investigate the reason for the rockets, If he had ordered the wireless operator to monitor the set, then He would have known the ship was in distress, and Captain Lord would have become the Hero of the hour. Too many fundamental errors were made on that fateful night.
I was born many years after the Titanic sank
With regards to all those "Ill Omens", we have the clarity of 20-20 hindsight.
19:25 Binoculars locked up and the person in charge of them had the key in his case when he went off shift and forgot to give them to his replacement.
He was let go and could have taken them on purpose, cause he was angry....who knows
Captain Smith sent 4th officer Boxhall down to check the damage not Lowe
I am very distressed that the nearest ship to Titanic is repeatedly referred to as the "CALIFORNIA," just after the 37:35 mark, and also at 37:42, and several instances earlier, when Wikipedia, and all the other histories of Titanic I've read, state the name of the nearby ship was actually "CALIFORNIAN." I wouldn't write about this, except that it happens so frequently that I had to go back and research it again, in case I was wrong. I wasn't. It makes a difference!
Separately, earlier in the narrative, an expert says that "Titanic was "TAUNTED" as unsinkable, when the phrase he was trying to use was "TOUTED."
These speech errors should be corrected at least in chyron writing, so that the viewers will know exactly what the facts are.
No point worrying about facts while watching this David. So many fallacies and mistakes that you can't take it seriously. It's just mediocre entertainment at this point. Not the uploaders fault though.
The whole documentary is full of errors and conjecture. SOS doesn't stand for "Save our souls" it is used as it is easy to remember and easy to transmit and CQD doesn't stand for "Come quick, disaster" either. If they're perpetuating these errors, how much else have they got wrong?
@@geoffsayshello318Spot on.
The make of the steel or rivets has no bearing on the problem that caused the ship to sink.
The number one problem was the captain pressured by higher ups to run as fast as you can, even if its dark out and iceberg warnings.
Thats is the only reason why she sank, sunk, drop to the bottom of the ocean.😢
No matter if its a ship of today and hit an iceberg like the titanic did ot would sink, too.
Look at concordia. Hit the reef and sank, sunk. If it didn’t get hung up on the reef she would be at the bottom of the ocean.
Bravo !!! Well Done !!!
Colter Brog: Your statement is so true and often overlooked by filmmakers of so-called "historians." Many just slap a documentary or movie together without verifying the facts!
There’s some misinformation in this documentary. FYI
Thank you Mark 💕🙏🏼🌷
You are so welcome
Possibly the worst pile of titanic trash talk
0:01
How the hell are you going to look through binoculars in the dark? You aren't going to see nothing anyways.. unless that had night vision.
Not a "cruise line".
0:51
Iv always been curious if they had left the water tight doors open had she sank slower and made it easier to fill life boats,,,
Love all the documentaries.. but this one does annoy me. The rivet nonsense is just nonsense. The bit about the man being entombed is nonsense too. Still enjoy tho, thanks Mark
Hello HRC, I enjoy sharing and preserving the Titanic documentaries / films for all to see and for you to make up your own mind on what happened with the events. I try to stay away from the switch theories with the Titanic and Olympic.
👏👏👏👏
@@titanicfilmsbymark well anyone with any basic knowledge of the Titanic will know the switch theory is utter nonsense and abide only held by brainless morons.
I'm with you on that, it's irritating that rivet theory still has traction. Titanic was an incredibly well made vessel. It was built to the best of human ability at the time. The rivets weren't the problem. Striking a massive iceberg that might as well have been pure granite was the problem.
So many anecdotes and things that frame the crew and the wireless operators, as well as the ship builders and even captain smith as all incompetent. Almost all these breakdowns of highly personal encounters all sound made up to a degree. Im aware we learned many things from the survivors, but some of these “historians” are kind of seeming like they are just making stuff up.
Let’s take it for what it is,
A missed warning (a big mistake)
Some callous nature
Acting too late
SOS was chosen as a distress call because they're among the easiest to remember. Three dots, three dashes, three dots. If not mistaken, the Germans were the first to use such a call. The binoculars weren't left behind. The keys to the box were.
23:19 Boxhall, not Lowe. Lowe was still sleeping
34:54
"WORLD'S LARGEST METAPHOR HITS ICE-BERG"
OMG, what newspaper was that?
"TITANIC, REPRESENTATION OF MAN'S HUBRIS, SINKS IN NORTH ATLANTIC".
I'd be interested to see how long it would take for the biggest cruise ship as of 2021 to sink? I mean if the biggest cruise ship was in the situation where it would sink one way or another
The Costa Concordia didn't take all long to founder.
The guy that had a key to a storage room that held the binoculars was told last minute he wouldn't be sailing on titanic, they forgot to get the key, but because it was clear weather they figured didn't need them anyway, imagine that, instead of just breaking the lock they blew it off basically. ?????????????
Yes, and they were right.
Binoculars at the time were not remotely the high quality they are today. The deciding factor isn't even magnification, it is the light or rather how much light they let through.
It was a dark, moonless night and a "sea of glass". Binoculars would not have done anything to help here, on the contrary, they might have been a hindrance. They would have stared into nothing but a black nothingness looking through them.
Similar to most people saying "If only they have had more life boats!" then what?
They didn't even manage to release the life boats they had in time, what good would more life boats been? They'd cluttered the deck more, making the evacuation more difficult, probably.
With Titanic, there is more to it than meets the eye...
This is such an inaccurate narrative. It's almost a comedy. The only fact it got right is that a ship sank.
The Edwardian era ended in 1910, 2 years before the Titanic sank.
Craig McCaul A beautiful vid…. a lot of inconsistencies
A Titanic 'expert' should know that no 'distress' rockets were seen by the Californian (not the 'California').
These so-called historians have misstated half of their facts. Get someone who knows
The materials logs clearly show the type of rivets that were used on the titanic and #3 were used on the side of the bow and #4 in other areas. they are available to view for the nay sayers saying Islam did not cut corners.
Who is Archie Jewel? Look outs were Frederick Fleet and Reginald Lee I believe.
Even if there were enough lifeboats, the death toll would have been the same because they barely had time to launch the ones they had.
Instead of launching two at a time, it would have been launching eight at a time, all along the side of the boat deck because no restrictions would have been required for boarding the lifeboats. All of the lowering davits would have been in use, not just one set on each side of the ship.
Since only women and children were allowed, there were security issues, and it took a lot of time to deal with the inexperienced crew, poorly prepared passengers and at the end, scarcity of lifeboat seats.
20:08 "the ship scrapes the side of Titanic".......so it sunk itself??? 🤷♂️😄
I mean no disrespect to this channel as there is lot of great material here, but this documentary is awful. It’s filled with inaccuracies and misinformation. A lot of this has been discussed already, but there was nothing out of the ordinary about the rivets; they were standard for the day. The supposed conversation between Captain Smith and the first class passenger about the ice berg warning has never been mentioned in any reputable book, documentary or otherwise. There was never a worker entombed in the hull. Ever. This never happened. I could go on and on. No disrespect to you Mark, but I’d probably remove this video.
They had binoculars but they were locked up.
Ojalá lo suban subtitulado 🙏🙏🙏
His so right the children and all the people that lost the lives so sad
Do not keep your forearm in ice water for 10 minutes. Wtf Can't believe that guy said that
Lol I think he was just using that as a way of feeling how cold that water was, if someone actually wanted to for some dumb reason. There actually are people who take ice baths for 10-15 minutes.....but any longer and it's a very bad day.
The water was 28° F. Pretty easy to replicate that. 🙄
What year is this from? I am fascinated by how clueless these talking heads are about the actual facts of the Titanic's life and death.
There was no one entombed it Titanic as she was being built. Check your history.
I didn't make this documentary, I only shared it, uploaded it. I agree with you. Thanks.
The area the iceberg opened up was about the size of a residential bathroom door.
Actually, a huge section of the keel was torn away, and found in a place far from the wreck. This ship DID NOT hit an iceberg.
Passenger Manifest?
This was a Terrorist act brought to you by the soon to be CENTRAL BANK!!!
Note the date it happened.
Patents circa 1912 regarding "Torpedoes".
Might wanna take a lesson on "cognitive dissonance" while you're at it.
@@whatsyurprob158 so what is your “Smoking gun”” proof?
@@timothyreed8417 It was a msm doc that was made about a decade ago. I think it was actually the History channel, or AE.
Even so It was a submersible, and the deal is, the huge piece of keel they found far away from the rest of the ship had to have been hit with FORCE enough to move it as far as it did 'before' it started to sink.. The size it is, there's no way it got there according to the LAWS of physics. Hell, they didn't even know it existed until this very Doc I'm speaking about.
Remember, this was all done before this AWAKENING the world is undergoing right now (CENSORSHIP).
Regardless, I'm sure there are MANY others who remember the Doc..
Try finding it 👍
@@whatsyurprob158 so what are you claiming happened?
You clown
They should have let it hit the new York. And maybe by the time damages was fixed. The ice berg they hit would b in another location
Im not sure what this is as it seems to have a decidedly different narrative than literally every other current and up to date Titanic. like the binoculars, the telegraph the weather all outdated info
They did not put her engine’s in reserve if doing that you would have seriously damaged the low pressure and high pressure pistons on both starboard and port engines
20:28-20:32
This guy has to read the Titanic inquiry project, United States Senate Inquiry, Day 17
U.S Navy Department of Bureau of Steam Engineering I highly recommended reading this if you are interested in marine steam engineering or into steam ships and boats of that era
Is this narrated by Adam West?
Is Adam West narrating this program?
charlton heston
The idiot with the gun in his cold , dead hands .
A nice video ……but inconsistencies
They didn’t consider third class passengers as people more like dirt but it was their bread and butter because they got most of their money from the third class passengers it’s really sad such loss of life
There is no actual evidence to suggest that Third Class passengers were locked below decks. Those who gave evidence at the American Inquiry made no such claims.
Their is a documentary on UA-cam that showed when they went inside the ship with a small ROV, there were two gates locked. Also that's why there were hardly any 3rd class survivors. They kept some locked below.@@dovetonsturdee7033
That’s false information
Made it about 6 minutes in. They didn't go with #3 because they were cheaper for the bow and stern, they used #3 in those areas because the machine used for #4 rivets didn't fit. They also didn't have more lifeboats because the law at the time was 16 for vessels over 10 tons. Titanic actually went over that and had 20, of which there was only time to launch 18. Lifeboats at the time were to ferry people from a sinking boat to a safe one. They weren't meant to float in the middle of the ocean and wait for rescue. WSL didn't cut corners or try to save money on the Olympic class ships. Harland & Wolff were one of the leading shipyards of the time.
The shipping companies dictated to the Board of Trade regarding the number of lifeboats needed. Ismay only wanted to save the First Class passengers and officers, so there were only 20 lifeboats.
Unfortunately, they should have practiced launching the lifeboats, so that they could have gotten 48 boats off in an hour (loading everyone) instead of the stress of inexperienced seamen selectively loading women and children while launching only a pitiful few lifeboats.