Its because seeds of an apple does not get properties of its parent plant nor the fruit. They are a genetic blindshot between the green part and the pollen of other tree. To reliably get more apples of a good variety you have to use grafting. This man did help however by making genetic pool of apples in usa waaay bigger than it would be with de-facto clone like grafts everywhere
Another hero bites the dust another legend ruined but he. Did travil the country planting apple seeds and he did that on his own his trees so the story says are still alive today some of them is in upstate New York near Cortland NY and there is an apple called Cortland apples not bitter but tart and they y do make a good pie they don't turn into mush when baked
My teacher didn’t explain it that he made edible apple trees. He just planted a ton of seeds from the apples he ate, she said most of them became feral or wild apple trees usually not tasting that good and much smaller than the original fruit, we were talking about genetics when we talked about Johnny Appleseed😂
Now with the internet everyone knows that you can’t just plant a seed but that dude planted trees for years before being able to taste the fruit of his labor
Considering there were massive prohibitions (aka dry states) in America during the 1800's and 1900's (I think it ended somewhere between 1950-1960) what he was doing would be considered illegal by states back then, I mean mafia in USA used to sell beer and booze, instead of y'know what they sell now so drugs, people, organs and counterfeit products
Nah. He was worse. The honest truth is that at that time in History, you could claim a plot of land if you had done certain things to it. Like building a home or farming the land or ... planting trees. He was making orchards. He was claiming land. He was a bad guy.
@@lococomrade3488 how's claiming land a bad thing? I mean for the government probably yeah, now unless it's the land of the indigenous people, in which case that's fucked up but hey US has done multiple times with varying degrees of lowballing those people
Then they didn’t lie I mean at the end of the day he still grew apples and gave them and they helped either get you some good hooch or help you use Apple vinegar to cook
Well. The popularized story was that he planted the apples so there would be food for everyone to eat. He really planted them to claim land as his own and make a fortune.
@@inukithesavage828 I’m also willing to bet he was a chill dude who liked the outdoors and wildlife like he’s frequently portrayed in tall tales. I’m sure those traits were simply exaggerated rather than made up.
That's because apple trees can't self pollinate, and the majority of varieties of apple all come from clones of the same original tree. You cut the branches off a mature tree, stick it in the ground, and it will grow into an entirely new tree with the same type of apples. Generally you need to have two different varieties of apple near each other to allow them to pollinate, and the easiest way to do that is to let natural crab apple trees grow outside of the orchard.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio I don't think that is how it works. If you want Golden Delicious apples, you have to have two Golden Delicious trees. You need to grow them from seeds, the seeds in an apple are not clones. Clones come from growing a few good apples and a bunch of crab apples. You cut the crab apple off and graft on a branch from a good apple. What happens in the vast majority of cases the trees aren't cared for correctly, the graft dies and the crap apple grows from the stump.
Also having an orchard was a quick and easy way to claim large plots of land in those times. It’s speculated that he went around planting apple trees to claim the land.
The Ohio Company of Associates made a deal with settlers that anyone willing to create a permanent homestead in the land beyond Ohio's first permanent settlement would receive 100 acres of land. Apparently, he did just that hundreds of times over. With cider apples.
In order to claim that land, settlers had to grow a certain amount of fruit trees to maturity, to ensure people wouldnt just claim a ton of land, and abandon it
@@kibbs325 The Ohio Company of Associates made a deal with settlers that anyone willing to create a permanent homestead in the land beyond Ohio's first permanent settlement would receive 100 acres of land. If I remember correctly, you had to show the ability to keep and maintain it for a certain timeframe. Orchards take a while, so the requirements were kinda lax.
@@BulkBoganOfficial The apples are still uesful. As stated in the video they're great for making alcohol or vinegar. Pre modern plumbing having weak alcohol was a great way to avoid water born ilnesses, which was a big problem back then.
I’m from Fort Wayne so it’s nice to see this mentioned. Also @primedvalkyr5993 you do realize Johnny Appleseed is a real person right? Of course his last name isn’t actually Appleseed, that’s just a nickname.
I grew up in PA in the early to mid 2000s. Teachers talked about him positivity, but not reverently or anything like that, and he came up fairly often in example paragraphs for english assignments. We even went to one of his standing orchards for a field trip where we could pick eatable apples, and they had this creepy, but kind of cool anamatromic of J.A. I'm just wanted to say, I think it depends on where you live if he comes up, or course. I'd bet closer to the Appalachians, the more schools like him
@@bdeamon1 I grew up in the 90s in Texas. I doubt he was active down here, which would make the difference. I guess early colonial mythology is less of a thing, here. We have the Alamo and stuff
@@johntheherbalistg8756 I actually currently live and teach in east texas at the moment. Just a student teacher mind you. I can confirm it's similar, but still different. For example, for as much as they teach the Mex-American war, I learned about the Civil War up in PA. Also the kids here basically know about Pecos Bill in terms of local myth I guess, but a lot of the schools I teach in leverage the Marvel heros as class mascots believe it or not.
I can't blame teachers but I do blame outside forces. Politicians who don't know how to educate or have a political/religious agenda and even parents can interfere with proper learning. I had an 8th grade teacher who tried to break this by having us write an essay on Christopher Columbus after a unit on him. In 7 years, she has only had one defend him.
Well unfortunately for you, it doesn’t help that this telling of events isn’t necessarily correct either. What you and others need to understand is just because you were taught things one way, doesn’t mean you were lied to. Too many people want to blame others, they want to get up in arms, this guy boosts his views by saying “yOU WeRE LIED To” when thats just not the case. To elaborate, Johnny planted seeds, but it wasn’t just for a single minded purpose of making cider, or alcohol. Apples are EXTREMELY genetically diverse, because apples are little rebels. If you have a Sweet apple, and decide to plant its seeds one in the back yard to get more of those sweet apples, theres no guarantee you actually get that lushes sweet apple, rather it more likely it will come out as bitter. Thats just how apples are. In order to replicate the sweet apple, you’d actually have to do whats called “grafting” or “cloning” where you cut off a branch, and either attempt to tie it to another tree, or plant it in the ground and try yo get it to take root. Johnny planted a ton of seeds, and is mostly responsible for many of the apple variants you enjoy in your local store today. But it is indeed true that many apples came out bitter, or tart, and thus found better use in things like alcoholic beverages.
@@gdragonlord749 Teachers should be blamed to some extent because they are allowing their personal emotions to dictate what they teach in many instances
@JustMe _OhWell Just Like the Lie when Teachers said Columbus Discovered America. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 Vikings Found America Hundreds of Years Earlier & the Indigenous People Lived There Thousands of Years.
@@JamaalDaGreatest It actually takes real events, removes his profit and religious motives, and adds some feel good folklore elements in place of those. So not really a mixture, or folklore, just feels that way because of how it is simplified for kids.
You'd be wrong. The apples he planted were to start Orchards for making cider beer. He would plant these apples on tracks of land he'd buy. Then in a couple of years he would sell at a substantial higher price because a cider orchard was on the property. Everyone knew cider apples were for making cider not eating.
You forgot to mention the reason why he actually planted all those trees was because back then when you would actually plant a tree that means you own that land and all the areas where he put a seed he was claiming the land for himself and he did this miles ahead of all the other homesteaders that he actually got ahead of.
Apple jack. Not a secret in the US public school system. Just the version taught in 2nd grade was sterilized. By 5th our teachers told the entire story.
He actually single handedly helped protect the genetic diversity of apples, making them have more wild traits and resistance to a huge range of conditions.
@fintan9218 uhhh no...your wrong about that. Adverse possession of unclaimed or underutilized land was his thing. Today people only know of adverse possession for homes via squatters yet a person can still claim land all across murica just by planting a apple orcherd
@@allenlindsey1175 uhhh yes, he would plant orchards then sell it to the settlers on the land allowing them to lay claim to the land. He also would sometimes just give them seeds to do it themselves.
@fintan9218 that's not how Mr. John Chapman operated. He used northwestern territory laws governing adverse possession to claim lands by building an NURSERY(of cider trees) and a rudimentary fence. He would then LEASE this land at no cost to locals, but they had to make sure the land was well-taken care of and he had the rights to any of the saplings growing on the orchards. He would then take those saplings and sell them for a fipenny bit. That was his job, not a cider maker, not an orcharder, he was a nuseryman. And, although he did have a lot of land, and therefore wealth, John Chapman himself never took advantage of that wealth, nor was it liquid. He used money from sold saplings and Christian kindness of others to survive and when he died, much of his land, some 1200 acres went, went to his sister.
The funniest thing is she was doing it to claim land, at the time if you planted a tree in an unclaimed plot of land it was the equivalent of claiming it so he was just running around claiming land
You can also turn it into one of the first hard spirits made in North America: apple Jack. Apple Jack is basically like apple brandy and it was made when the barrels of cider froze and then someone would pour the liquor out while leaving the ice behind.
He's also responsible for creating applejack, brandy made by freezing the cider & removing water as ice. This unfortunately made many people blind as it has extremely high levels of methanol (typically thrown out as heads from conventional vapour distillation)
Literal inspiration. Used this story to explain Apple cider vinegar in science class. Helped me learn about fermenting other things. Now I make a kick ass hot sauce.
I remember learning that apples don’t grow “true to seed,” meaning if you take a Fuji apple from the grocery store and plant its seeds you aren’t going to get a Fuji tree, but rather some kind of crab apple. On orchards their trees are kind of manufactured by taking limbs from a desired tree and cutting them into the branch of a healthy tree (grafting). Kind of explains why there are so many different kinds of apples nowadays and they keep coming up with more. Really cool
The reason he planted apple trees in the first place wasn't because he just really liked apples it was because an orchard was one of the easiest and quickest things to set up that qualified you to own property under the homestead act. A true American hero who helped hundreds if not thousands get on the property ladder
Johnny Appleseed seed also proposed marriage to a 9 year old girl and it was approved by her father. He visited her once and he saw her giving affection to a 10 year old boy. He became angry and heartbroken and called off the marriage. He was an interesting man but not the saint some people think he was.
I just realized that they referenced this in the opening of Hundreds of Beavers. I had a feeling they were referencing Johnny Appleseed but I didn't know it was this accurate!
hes one of those people like davy crocket or daniel boone, where they were actual people and their accomplishments were real, they just sound folklorish
As a canadian i only had 1 encounter with johnny appleseed, a week long field trip where we had to sing part of the johnny apple seed song as a prayer every morning it was..odd
And then during the Prohibition Era, the FBI chopped down all of the trees he planted to prevent the production of cider. Only one known tree he planted is still alive solely because the apples are used for baking.
His name was Jonathan Winters Chapman, and he was from Urbana, Ohio. My grandfather was one of his direct descendants. They have a museum there too if you want to find it.
Some of the apple trees he planted, turned out to be sweet apples as well. It’s kinda a random toss up, which apple you’re gonna get, if you aren’t cloning, or, grafting the tree directly
Yeah. It's a kid friendly allegory to acknowledge the main idea of the legend, which is that he literally planted the groundwork for neighborly cooperation.
You typically need to clone or graft apples to get the varieties you'll see in the grocery store. The varieties are usually a mutation that doesn't pass down to it's seeds, so any apple seed you collect from them will typically produce a wild apple. Side note: wild apples are pretty sour and astringent, but if you like sour stuff I'd recommend giving them a try.
Plus it’s theorized that he contributed to keeping the gene pool of apples just as diverse as before instead of letting it decline which is important due to the complexity of how apples breed. In general apple flowers can sense how closely related the pollen it gets is to its own genetic structure and if it’s too close of a match it will have a reaction that kills the pollen stopping fertilization making the breeding incompatible. It’s a process called self incompatibility and without it many apple trees would be able to regularly reproduce asexually since so many of them poses both reproductive organs. I learned this recently and it’s extremely fascinating
Johnny owned a number of orchards that he would setup and then would move onto the next one after training someone to maintain that orchard. His main business was selling the saplings to homesteaders who needed a certain number of trees to claim land as you needed to make some "improvement" to stake a claim.
Cooked down and mased through a seive, you now have the pectin for jam and jelly making. Provided you could get suger or really sweet fruit such as plums, haws, huckleberry. Or if you had a few spices, fruit butter that could be sun dried into "leather".
Johnny Appleseed didn't chose bitter apples, like he was some drunk... 99% of all apples grown from seed are bitter and are only used to make cider. There's nothing strange about this. They couldn't drink the water because there wasn't a clean source, so often alcohol was the only choice.
There's so much about him that is wrong. He was shoeless, but by choice as he had lots of money. As for his apples being bitter, he grew all the trees from seed. Apples are not true to seed so his apples would be just about anything and in fact some of the varieties we have today could be from him. When you grow an apple from seed it is a brand new variety every time. Even two seeds from the same apple will be two new varieties. Now most new apples end up being small, crab apples. Full of tannins and bitter (perfect for ciders and wines) about 1 in every 1k is a nice apple. So with how many he planned and spread across the country, some of them would have been full on what we call dessert apples, apples good to eat as they are straight. But some would also have been good baking apples. To get the exact variety of apple the only way is to graft into root stock. Or root cutting. And apple trees don't want to rot from cuttings, it's not easy. So every day granny Smith stole tree is a clone of the original granny Smith tree.
I didn’t know Johnny Appleseed was chill like that
I didn’t even think he was real
He wasn’t. He was from a weird christian sect. The pot-on-head thing was true too.
I didnt even know he was real.
@@Tinkering4Timeyeah, dude was a nut who became legendary lol
Somehow, the vibes really improved.
I still don’t see the downside..
🤣🤣🤣
The teachers are liars 🙂↕️
If anything, this makes him more appealing to the story
We never said there were downsides, its just a misconception
Upside even
Its because seeds of an apple does not get properties of its parent plant nor the fruit. They are a genetic blindshot between the green part and the pollen of other tree.
To reliably get more apples of a good variety you have to use grafting.
This man did help however by making genetic pool of apples in usa waaay bigger than it would be with de-facto clone like grafts everywhere
Another hero bites the dust another legend ruined but he. Did travil the country planting apple seeds and he did that on his own his trees so the story says are still alive today some of them is in upstate New York near Cortland NY and there is an apple called Cortland apples not bitter but tart and they y do make a good pie they don't turn into mush when baked
Pretty close but so far away from the truth
My teacher didn’t explain it that he made edible apple trees. He just planted a ton of seeds from the apples he ate, she said most of them became feral or wild apple trees usually not tasting that good and much smaller than the original fruit, we were talking about genetics when we talked about Johnny Appleseed😂
@@WonderfulEagle-mm1vj Not really if you think about it.
Now with the internet everyone knows that you can’t just plant a seed but that dude planted trees for years before being able to taste the fruit of his labor
So basically in the real story he is even better
Considering there were massive prohibitions (aka dry states) in America during the 1800's and 1900's (I think it ended somewhere between 1950-1960) what he was doing would be considered illegal by states back then, I mean mafia in USA used to sell beer and booze, instead of y'know what they sell now so drugs, people, organs and counterfeit products
Yes
I am your 420th like!
So that basically makes me Johnny pot seed😎
Nah. He was worse.
The honest truth is that at that time in History, you could claim a plot of land if you had done certain things to it.
Like building a home or farming the land or ... planting trees.
He was making orchards. He was claiming land.
He was a bad guy.
@@lococomrade3488 how's claiming land a bad thing? I mean for the government probably yeah, now unless it's the land of the indigenous people, in which case that's fucked up but hey US has done multiple times with varying degrees of lowballing those people
Then they didn’t lie I mean at the end of the day he still grew apples and gave them and they helped either get you some good hooch or help you use Apple vinegar to cook
Well. The popularized story was that he planted the apples so there would be food for everyone to eat. He really planted them to claim land as his own and make a fortune.
Plus lying implies that they knew the full backstory which I highly doubt they did
And he was still barefoot, too
@@inukithesavage828 I’m also willing to bet he was a chill dude who liked the outdoors and wildlife like he’s frequently portrayed in tall tales. I’m sure those traits were simply exaggerated rather than made up.
Apples seeds do not grow true to seed and you're more likely to get a crab apple tree if you plant a apple seed.
That's because apple trees can't self pollinate, and the majority of varieties of apple all come from clones of the same original tree. You cut the branches off a mature tree, stick it in the ground, and it will grow into an entirely new tree with the same type of apples. Generally you need to have two different varieties of apple near each other to allow them to pollinate, and the easiest way to do that is to let natural crab apple trees grow outside of the orchard.
I like crab apples. All kinds of them. Just small.
And historically crab apples were used to make... cider.
@@Rocketsong Would you want to waste good apples on cider when the crappy ones work in cider but not desserts?
@@OtakuUnitedStudio I don't think that is how it works.
If you want Golden Delicious apples, you have to have two Golden Delicious trees.
You need to grow them from seeds, the seeds in an apple are not clones.
Clones come from growing a few good apples and a bunch of crab apples.
You cut the crab apple off and graft on a branch from a good apple.
What happens in the vast majority of cases the trees aren't cared for correctly, the graft dies and the crap apple grows from the stump.
Also having an orchard was a quick and easy way to claim large plots of land in those times. It’s speculated that he went around planting apple trees to claim the land.
Claimed the land, raised its value, and sold it to homesteaders for a profit!
*not speculated* you’re 100% correct. the fruit/cider was a side hustle lmaoo
The Ohio Company of Associates made a deal with settlers that anyone willing to create a permanent homestead in the land beyond Ohio's first permanent settlement would receive 100 acres of land. Apparently, he did just that hundreds of times over. With cider apples.
In order to claim that land, settlers had to grow a certain amount of fruit trees to maturity, to ensure people wouldnt just claim a ton of land, and abandon it
@@kibbs325 The Ohio Company of Associates made a deal with settlers that anyone willing to create a permanent homestead in the land beyond Ohio's first permanent settlement would receive 100 acres of land. If I remember correctly, you had to show the ability to keep and maintain it for a certain timeframe. Orchards take a while, so the requirements were kinda lax.
I thought you was gonna ruin my childhood but you just made johnny more badass .
I'm from Indiana and live/grew up 45 mins South of Ft. Wayne, where Johnny Appleseed is buried. He was a big part of 4th Grade Indiana History.
I'm from the town where he was born. He was big in our local history lessons. The town even has a festival to celebrate him.
Yeah man, totes real person, buried next to paul bunyan and sasquatch. 🤣
@@BulkBoganOfficial The apples are still uesful. As stated in the video they're great for making alcohol or vinegar. Pre modern plumbing having weak alcohol was a great way to avoid water born ilnesses, which was a big problem back then.
I’m from Fort Wayne so it’s nice to see this mentioned. Also @primedvalkyr5993 you do realize Johnny Appleseed is a real person right? Of course his last name isn’t actually Appleseed, that’s just a nickname.
Also Paul Bunyan was a real person named Bon Jean.
My teachers never told me anything about Johnny Appleseed, but it came up in movies and books. I learned all this from the library
I grew up in PA in the early to mid 2000s. Teachers talked about him positivity, but not reverently or anything like that, and he came up fairly often in example paragraphs for english assignments. We even went to one of his standing orchards for a field trip where we could pick eatable apples, and they had this creepy, but kind of cool anamatromic of J.A.
I'm just wanted to say, I think it depends on where you live if he comes up, or course. I'd bet closer to the Appalachians, the more schools like him
@@bdeamon1 I grew up in the 90s in Texas. I doubt he was active down here, which would make the difference. I guess early colonial mythology is less of a thing, here. We have the Alamo and stuff
@@johntheherbalistg8756 I actually currently live and teach in east texas at the moment. Just a student teacher mind you.
I can confirm it's similar, but still different. For example, for as much as they teach the Mex-American war, I learned about the Civil War up in PA. Also the kids here basically know about Pecos Bill in terms of local myth I guess, but a lot of the schools I teach in leverage the Marvel heros as class mascots believe it or not.
To be fair, our teachers lied to us about most stuff. I learned way more history than I did in school just from my own curiosity. Lol
I can't blame teachers but I do blame outside forces. Politicians who don't know how to educate or have a political/religious agenda and even parents can interfere with proper learning.
I had an 8th grade teacher who tried to break this by having us write an essay on Christopher Columbus after a unit on him. In 7 years, she has only had one defend him.
Slavery was the biggest lie they told. And the lie only got worse with time.
Well unfortunately for you, it doesn’t help that this telling of events isn’t necessarily correct either. What you and others need to understand is just because you were taught things one way, doesn’t mean you were lied to. Too many people want to blame others, they want to get up in arms, this guy boosts his views by saying “yOU WeRE LIED To” when thats just not the case.
To elaborate, Johnny planted seeds, but it wasn’t just for a single minded purpose of making cider, or alcohol. Apples are EXTREMELY genetically diverse, because apples are little rebels. If you have a Sweet apple, and decide to plant its seeds one in the back yard to get more of those sweet apples, theres no guarantee you actually get that lushes sweet apple, rather it more likely it will come out as bitter. Thats just how apples are. In order to replicate the sweet apple, you’d actually have to do whats called “grafting” or “cloning” where you cut off a branch, and either attempt to tie it to another tree, or plant it in the ground and try yo get it to take root. Johnny planted a ton of seeds, and is mostly responsible for many of the apple variants you enjoy in your local store today. But it is indeed true that many apples came out bitter, or tart, and thus found better use in things like alcoholic beverages.
@@gdragonlord749 Teachers should be blamed to some extent because they are allowing their personal emotions to dictate what they teach in many instances
@JustMe _OhWell
Just Like the Lie when Teachers said Columbus Discovered America.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Vikings Found America Hundreds of Years Earlier & the Indigenous People Lived There Thousands of Years.
That's actually make sense about the hard cider.
My British ass thinking “who the fuck is Johnny Appleseed”
I'm also British, and I've heard of him since I was 9.
He's like John Bull, if, you know, John Bull did things. :D
There's an alcohol drink from colonial times called Apple Jack. It'll give you a headache if you drink too much.
I always thought he was American folklore like Paul Bunyan
It's a mixture of both
Nope buried in Indiana....
@@JamaalDaGreatest It actually takes real events, removes his profit and religious motives, and adds some feel good folklore elements in place of those.
So not really a mixture, or folklore, just feels that way because of how it is simplified for kids.
I always thought he was a folk story, because he got brought up, then forgotten.
Nah, he was actually real. He was also a traveling preacher and he died penniless.
Nope buried in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
@@Skeloperch didnt he use appleseeds to pay for things?
looks like a furry pfp but ok
So basically he’s more of a legend than we initially thought, God bless America
You'd be wrong.
The apples he planted were to start Orchards for making cider beer. He would plant these apples on tracks of land he'd buy. Then in a couple of years he would sell at a substantial higher price because a cider orchard was on the property. Everyone knew cider apples were for making cider not eating.
Correct, and his religious beliefs also played a role.
@@JonSolo Yeah he believed that harming plants was wrong so he didn't graft eddible apple limbs onto his trees.
You forgot to mention the reason why he actually planted all those trees was because back then when you would actually plant a tree that means you own that land and all the areas where he put a seed he was claiming the land for himself and he did this miles ahead of all the other homesteaders that he actually got ahead of.
Wait. Johnny was a Sooner?!?
I love the part when it goes “tolerating the cold” and immediately goes to a picture of a guy tolerating his wife 😂
What a true American hero 🫡
Apple jack. Not a secret in the US public school system.
Just the version taught in 2nd grade was sterilized. By 5th our teachers told the entire story.
People keep on acting like the version of the story we tell Elementary schooler is the only version that is tough.
So he’s an even greater man than we were told.
He actually single handedly helped protect the genetic diversity of apples, making them have more wild traits and resistance to a huge range of conditions.
Honestly I forgot he was real, I thought he was just a tall tale figure
It was a adverse possession scheme on a grand scale.
After he planted the orchards he secured the land as his own. Also he was very wealthy
He wasn’t claiming it as his own he was helping people claim the land they already lived on legally
@fintan9218 uhhh no...your wrong about that.
Adverse possession of unclaimed or underutilized land was his thing.
Today people only know of adverse possession for homes via squatters yet a person can still claim land all across murica just by planting a apple orcherd
@@allenlindsey1175 uhhh yes, he would plant orchards then sell it to the settlers on the land allowing them to lay claim to the land. He also would sometimes just give them seeds to do it themselves.
@fintan9218 uhhh your telling me your talking out your bottom cheeks without actually telling me your talking out your bottom cheeks
@fintan9218 that's not how Mr. John Chapman operated. He used northwestern territory laws governing adverse possession to claim lands by building an NURSERY(of cider trees) and a rudimentary fence. He would then LEASE this land at no cost to locals, but they had to make sure the land was well-taken care of and he had the rights to any of the saplings growing on the orchards. He would then take those saplings and sell them for a fipenny bit. That was his job, not a cider maker, not an orcharder, he was a nuseryman. And, although he did have a lot of land, and therefore wealth, John Chapman himself never took advantage of that wealth, nor was it liquid. He used money from sold saplings and Christian kindness of others to survive and when he died, much of his land, some 1200 acres went, went to his sister.
this is what i was taught in school
This is my favourite short from Melody Time. The Mary Blair background art on the apple blossoms is so beautiful
The funniest thing is she was doing it to claim land, at the time if you planted a tree in an unclaimed plot of land it was the equivalent of claiming it so he was just running around claiming land
She?
What schools taught the other thing I already knew what the apples were used for
Damn so johny apple seed was the first dude to smoke weed out of an apple.
You can also turn it into one of the first hard spirits made in North America: apple Jack. Apple Jack is basically like apple brandy and it was made when the barrels of cider froze and then someone would pour the liquor out while leaving the ice behind.
They also generally don't tell you his real name was John Chapman.
Johnny Appleseed went from a cool folktale to a giga chad in 60 secs...
And here I thought it was a metaphor for a dude that went along the frontier spreading his “seed”
I fr thought he was gonna say tolerate the wife
"A buzz to help you tolerate the cold"
The clip: *some dude and his wife* ☠️☠️☠️
Bro wasn't thinking about the apples he was thinking of your future beer and party.
Until literally just now I had completely forgotten about Johnny Appleseed when I am an American native.
He's also responsible for creating applejack, brandy made by freezing the cider & removing water as ice. This unfortunately made many people blind as it has extremely high levels of methanol (typically thrown out as heads from conventional vapour distillation)
I was told me Johnny Appleseed was a serial killer, I’m so relieved to hear that he just planted bitter apples.
Supposedly, Appleseed was devout, so seeing his work turned into a vice warms my heart.
"Help tolerate the cold" *cuts to a picture of his wife* 💀
JOHNNY WAS BALLIN IN THE ALCOHOL BUISNESS
turning bad water into good cider. love it.
That makes the story 100X better
Literal inspiration. Used this story to explain Apple cider vinegar in science class. Helped me learn about fermenting other things. Now I make a kick ass hot sauce.
He also did it to try and claim land. "I got trees growing here so it's mine"
I really thought he was gonna say " plus the buzz to tolerate your wife " 😂😂
I don't think a single teacher ever told me about Johnny Appleseed. I just learned about him from the cartoon movie in this short
I remember learning that apples don’t grow “true to seed,” meaning if you take a Fuji apple from the grocery store and plant its seeds you aren’t going to get a Fuji tree, but rather some kind of crab apple. On orchards their trees are kind of manufactured by taking limbs from a desired tree and cutting them into the branch of a healthy tree (grafting).
Kind of explains why there are so many different kinds of apples nowadays and they keep coming up with more. Really cool
The reason he planted apple trees in the first place wasn't because he just really liked apples it was because an orchard was one of the easiest and quickest things to set up that qualified you to own property under the homestead act. A true American hero who helped hundreds if not thousands get on the property ladder
The crabapples were also good for feeding pigs as people settled the frontier in America
You're telling me my childhood hero is actually my adulthood hero? Hell yeah, merica!!! (Eagle schreaches in alcoholism)
Johnny Appleseed seed also proposed marriage to a 9 year old girl and it was approved by her father. He visited her once and he saw her giving affection to a 10 year old boy. He became angry and heartbroken and called off the marriage. He was an interesting man but not the saint some people think he was.
So he was even more of a hero than we thought
I just realized that they referenced this in the opening of Hundreds of Beavers. I had a feeling they were referencing Johnny Appleseed but I didn't know it was this accurate!
Man was even more a hero than i thought
Probably just didn’t want to tell the kids how cool he was lol
hes one of those people like davy crocket or daniel boone, where they were actual people and their accomplishments were real, they just sound folklorish
As a canadian i only had 1 encounter with johnny appleseed, a week long field trip where we had to sing part of the johnny apple seed song as a prayer every morning it was..odd
I was under the impression that apples back then tasted more like popcorn
I thought johnny appleseed was a tall tale
The sunny clip was a good idea i almost scrolled away but saw the gruesome twosome and finished the short. Well done
Whenever I hear about him I remember the sour apples from the old house. Best childhood I ever had.
And then during the Prohibition Era, the FBI chopped down all of the trees he planted to prevent the production of cider. Only one known tree he planted is still alive solely because the apples are used for baking.
The apples tasting like shit was pretty much inevitable because of how Apple's do
Unfortunately, most of these orchards were cut down during prohibition since there was no point keeping them around anymore.
Saw that episode of Adam ruins everything years ago.
His name was Jonathan Winters Chapman, and he was from Urbana, Ohio. My grandfather was one of his direct descendants. They have a museum there too if you want to find it.
He was born in Massachusetts not Ohio
So Johnny is an even greater American Hero than i knew, he brought us booze, lets all raise a glass and toast to Johnny and his cider
Some of the apple trees he planted, turned out to be sweet apples as well. It’s kinda a random toss up, which apple you’re gonna get, if you aren’t cloning, or, grafting the tree directly
My teachers told us all about this and took us to the Johnny Appleseed museum yearly in elementary school
And by planting the seeds and trees, he laid claim to the land and take ownership.
I never thought that man would have any significance in our lives beyond third grade, yet here we are
If Jhonny Appleseed actually existed, then life is a parody
Yeah. It's a kid friendly allegory to acknowledge the main idea of the legend, which is that he literally planted the groundwork for neighborly cooperation.
They didn't tell us his apple's were good. We were just told that he planted Tons of Apple Seeds😊
From a rated E for everyone folk hero to a rated R.
weird fact. Johnny apple seed is in my family tree. I was like "really, THAT'S the famous person I'm related to?... neat."
So that's how angry orchard was born
Planting seeds was how you claimed land in those days thats why he did it
I thought he was gonna say "and the buzz to help tolerate the wife"
You typically need to clone or graft apples to get the varieties you'll see in the grocery store.
The varieties are usually a mutation that doesn't pass down to it's seeds, so any apple seed you collect from them will typically produce a wild apple.
Side note: wild apples are pretty sour and astringent, but if you like sour stuff I'd recommend giving them a try.
Haha that gives me dressing up as joghnny apple seed in first grade another meaning
I see this as a total improvement.
You can also make Applejack which is a freeze distilling method for making liquor
Sounds like an even better hero
I remember Johnny Appleseed as the seed I'd put in Minecraft PE to get a village.
how tf u know this
was you around with johnny appleseed was born
Plus it’s theorized that he contributed to keeping the gene pool of apples just as diverse as before instead of letting it decline which is important due to the complexity of how apples breed. In general apple flowers can sense how closely related the pollen it gets is to its own genetic structure and if it’s too close of a match it will have a reaction that kills the pollen stopping fertilization making the breeding incompatible. It’s a process called self incompatibility and without it many apple trees would be able to regularly reproduce asexually since so many of them poses both reproductive organs. I learned this recently and it’s extremely fascinating
I still consider him one of the greatest men who ever lived.
I don't remember my teacher's ever telling me his apples were actually sweet. Just Disney.
Johnny owned a number of orchards that he would setup and then would move onto the next one after training someone to maintain that orchard. His main business was selling the saplings to homesteaders who needed a certain number of trees to claim land as you needed to make some "improvement" to stake a claim.
So he is loved because he invented hard cider. What a goat
Cooked down and mased through a seive, you now have the pectin for jam and jelly making. Provided you could get suger or really sweet fruit such as plums, haws, huckleberry. Or if you had a few spices, fruit butter that could be sun dried into "leather".
Johnny Appleseed didn't chose bitter apples, like he was some drunk... 99% of all apples grown from seed are bitter and are only used to make cider. There's nothing strange about this. They couldn't drink the water because there wasn't a clean source, so often alcohol was the only choice.
I like how he put the hot af pan on the guys head
I knew this but you can understand why teaching kids that alcohol is good moght cause problems 🤣
This is why the guy is a legend got the bars talking
There's so much about him that is wrong. He was shoeless, but by choice as he had lots of money.
As for his apples being bitter, he grew all the trees from seed. Apples are not true to seed so his apples would be just about anything and in fact some of the varieties we have today could be from him.
When you grow an apple from seed it is a brand new variety every time. Even two seeds from the same apple will be two new varieties. Now most new apples end up being small, crab apples. Full of tannins and bitter (perfect for ciders and wines) about 1 in every 1k is a nice apple. So with how many he planned and spread across the country, some of them would have been full on what we call dessert apples, apples good to eat as they are straight. But some would also have been good baking apples.
To get the exact variety of apple the only way is to graft into root stock. Or root cutting. And apple trees don't want to rot from cuttings, it's not easy. So every day granny Smith stole tree is a clone of the original granny Smith tree.