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I´ve learned english the way a child do. Listening, listening, listening and more listening for about 3 years and when you know how the music of the language works you can start to speak, read and finally write. It took me 4 5 years the whole language adquisition process.
Children of 10 can speak languages perfectly but don't know what grammar is (but know subconsciously how to use it). So they've learned it with listening and repeating and creating their own sentences using the phrases they heard for so many times. This methord of learning a new language actually works. For adults even better than for children. We need much less time than chindren need, because our knowledge of our own language is much better which helps us learn other languages (depends of language family of course).
Once upon the time when there were no accessible translators on the Internet I decided to write a letter in French to my friend in France just to make her astonished and pleased. I new only a few words in French. We always write in English to each other. I took a little Polish-French dictionary and started my work. And then I realized that I need also a little grama to construct sentences. It took me all day to write a letter and I was proud when my friend from France answered that she could understand everything and was so moved by my letter. I is one of this moments when I understood that language is for communication and for expressing friendship to people. Just as you say Christian. You are a great teacher. Kind regards to you from Gdańsk , Poland. Have you visited Poland. Try to write an answer in Polish....of course I am joking.
I´ve learned english the way a child do. Listening, listening, listening and more listening for about 3 years and when you know how the music of the language works you can start to speak, read and finally write. It took me 4 5 years the whole language adquisition process.
@@priyamehlawat405 I listen to the video on this UA-cam channel with headphones and repeat what I hear, like simultaneous translation. I just don’t translate it and repeat it verbatim. This helps a lot in gaining fluency.
Hi, Everone. My husband has learned Hungarian (!!!) in one year just by listening others speaking it. Without grammar. Now he speaks as a native, still without knowing any grammar. If you have such a talent for languages, you don't need grammar. But it can be a great help though!!!
Hello! That's really interesting! Can I ask how many other languages he speaks, and what is his first language? I would be very grateful for your answer 🤗
@@anfisaignatova Hi, he has Russian parents, but he was born on the territory of Ukraine during the CCCP. He also learned English at school, and Hungarian after settling here 28 years ago. He speaks 4 languages (Russian, Ukrainian, English, Hungarian) perfectly. I am Hungarian and I speak Russian and English. We recently started learning Spanish. I like to see logic, connections patterns in language and between languages. He can't relate to that, he just learns from his gut. 😁
@@teklahuszar6603There is data showing that Hungarian is easy to learn. Maybe his way of learning doesn't work so well in other languages with an adult brain. I learn English in Spain for 20 years with his method and I speak it so so.
True, but also you can't quite translate meaning. For example you can say we have to wash the dishes after we eat. Depending on the context of how it's said. It can mean at least three different things. Literally we have to wash the dishes after we eat or expressed in disgust and dislike Or as a question. People sometimes forget it's how you say it to.
@@brendon2462 I agree. This is an additional aspect of communication. Perhaps, the weight of the ingredients also differs between languages. For some, the context is very important, while less so in others.
The answer to that question is easy: grammar is necesary, of course, but we don't have to study grammar... we have to "learn" grammar. Can you see the diference? 😉
I don't agree this absolutely.I think it's true when you want to learn a language that has a similar logic to a language you already speak, but if you want to learn a language that has a logic totally different from any language you speak I think you should to learn some grammar. I will do an analogy, imagine you have a musical instrument, you don't need to learn musical theory for playing a music, you can learn how to play any music without learning musical theory, but if you want to compose a music? If you don't know musical theory enough to compose the excerpt you are imagining, so you can only combine other excerpts you already know to form this, but does something secure you are imagining an excerpt that is a combination of excerpts you already know? The same thing happens if you are learning a language totally different from any language you know, you can only combine structures that you already know to form new structures, but nothing secures the structure you are imagining is a combination of structures you already know, because of this I think learning grammar is important when you learning a language totally different from any language you already speak. Pardon for my English, I'm learning, and I writed this coment without the helping of the translator.
Grammar is a technical knowledge if you make it explicit, but grammar is also a logic relationship between words that you learn implicitly. See this example that I lived: My husband had to take an exam to demonstrate his level of English for a PhD. He never took courses and he never traveled to an anglo-saxon country, but he always listened to music, watched movies and read scientific articles in English. He went to an English School and took the Michigan without studying or even practicing, he is so self-confident (and so brave to do that)! Because of the urgency to start his PhD and because he's not affraid of the people's judgment, he jumped in to it! but my prejudices made me think that he was going to fail embarrassingly. He obtained B2 in speaking!🎉!.. But A beginner in grammar!!! (filling the blanks is something he never did before and those broken phrases were a headache for him)... however reading and writing went good. He entered to the PhD program successfully. As I teach philosophy of language, in linguistics, this particular case made me confirmed many of the theories of natural learning. I was completely stunned. He doesn't know grammar, but he does.
I certainly learned German "on the street" back in the 70s, as we had no money to pay for lessons or grammar books. Back in those days, people in Germany were not so capable of conversing in English (lucky for me, I guess), so it was either sink or swim. I was fluent wthin the first year. Might not be the best way for everyone, but it worked for me.
A good common-sense conclusion. I really don't know why people make this so complicated. If you hate grammar and are intimidated by it, of course you can learn without it. But learning by deducing language patterns from massive input is slow - it takes children a decade to talk like 10-year-olds. And it's a faculty that declines rapidly with age, so the older you are the harder it gets. On the other hand our ability to read and to reason develops with age. So unless you really actively hate working with grammar patterns, spending a bit of time learning to recognise them and automate them will pay off handsomely in terms of speeding up your progress. Just use it as an aid to your interaction with native language, and not as an end in itself. And that, surely, is about all you need to say about it, despite the oceans of impassioned debate on the UA-cam vlogosphere...
Thank you for this interesting and educational video. Your pronunciation is so clear and understandable . I've got great pleasure listening to you. I think you're a good teacher ! I'm looking forward to see next videos from you! Best regards from Ukraine!👍
Hi Christian, thanks for this video! I would like to add some things : As the definition says, grammar is the way we organize words together in a certain logic. > So grammar exists since language exists, with or without books. Books are just one way to transmit this knowledge. So when you learn a language you might need/want to know the “secrets” behind the sentences you express or not. Grammar rules are these “secrets” and you don’t NEED them to speak but you might WANT to know them to speed up your learning process. Also, in French, we do have respect for the Académie Française, but their power is less and less strong ( they are not so modern people), because we want to let the language evolve a little bit faster (faster than the Académie would like it to evolve sometimes). And this is a long and complex subject. But I would like to finish with this : when we don’t follow the official rules, the ones from the Académie for example, that does not mean we don’t follow any rule, we just follow ANOTHER rule, because a language does not exists without rules, as you shown in the first study you talked about with the children. Voilà! A bientôt. Elsa
Another interesting fact is that as France is more or less the center of Esperanto language they made analogously Academy of Esperanto to do same stuff :)
The best teacher ..I'm addicted to his videos and I'm catching up all his live videos since 2016 ...it's kind of serie for me ...I'm fan of his way to teach ..thank you Mr Christian
Cantonese Chinese is my mother and I can speak mandarin Chinese, not very fluently though. if grammar is like what it is in English,,like the English grammar. I would say Chinese is like almost gramnarless. we don't have articles, tenses, and the like in Chinese. I remembered when I started to study English at the age of 17, I opened a pocket dictionary of English, the first thing that baffled me was a, an and the. the lack of tenses in Chinese make Chinese people speak in a way that is confusing . when someone is recounting past events, the timeline in which things happened is not clear, what came first and what came later..the lack of pronouns of he, she and it in spoken Chinese makes it hard for the listener to follow which aforementioned items they refer to. no singular and plural forms of nouns can influence the way one thinks. the underdeveloped nature of the Chinese language makes it easy for many native English speakers to learn to be fluent after their failed attempts at other foreign languages like French, German or Spanish. as some linguistists have said that Chinese was a baby talk, that's why Chinese civilization can not develop to be a modern civilization, like the western civilization. or the anglo saxon civilization. Chinese culture is like an ancient culture. edit :Chinese do have parts of speech and word order. 英國Britain ，英國人a brit,Briton, a British person, an Englishman ，英語English, the language. 英國人在in英國說speak 英語。 the British people 人in Britain speak說English. the Brits speak English in Britain. I can't go on, it is too complicated.
After 22 minutes we arrive at the answer: “chicken dance.” Hahaha A little bit of this and a little bit of that. The best answer to a very complex question.
19:55 Thank you for saying this))) "Learning a language only through watching television and having conversations that's not the most efficient way to learn a language "
I think grammar is always a matter. It is, probably, not necessary to have a deep understanding of grammar in order to learn some basics of English or any other analytic language. It is enough to know the most important structures: how to build a narrative or interrogative sentence, have some understanding of the English tenses system. But if you want to speak or, especially, to write in any language at a sufficiently high level, knowledge of grammar is necessary. To learn a synthetic language like Russian, you need to pay attention to grammar from the very beginning. Without knowledge of gender, cases, declensions, etc. it will be often impossible to construct correctly an elementary sentence. Or learning Spanish you have to memorize from the very beginning: yo - soy, tu - eres... I suppose this is also a grammar.
That is not absolutely true, I have been learning the Russian language with Duolingo and can construct some sentences correctly, I suppose I have acquired some grammar without studying it. by the way i also learned english with duolingo
I like your videos. I'm agree. Grammar is your friend which help you understanding other people. For example, 我爱你。你爱我。The first is "I love you". The second sentence is "You love me". It's grammar too. I won't understand it, if I didn't know grammar. Thank you for your answer. I shared your video.
Hey, this is my first comment for about 2 years I have been watching this lovely channel. I have to say Christian, you have been doing a great job, you will have anyone speaking! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are amazing Teacher from the capital letter as we say in Ukraine. I hope the society realize your BIG message that you are trying to bring to everyone. You have already deserved a golden memorial for that job, they don't just understand it yet. I pray God to give us power to fight unless we win.
I thing that so many people hate grammar is The way that It is teached, as a boring thing. I love grammar beacause i discovered It soon its importance in my life.
But I would say for speaking that pronunciation, intonation, stresses, reductions, exc. Are far more important in speaking. Because if you can speak so clearly. Close to a native level. Even if you mess up the grammar some. They will still understand you easily. Besides you can improve your grammar later on. Eventually you will make less mistakes. For example you could say I my dog walk today. Yea grammar wise it'swrong. But if they say it really good. Then you will still easily understand it no problem.
I think you really need grammar so that you could learn how not to fall in such mistakes in writing. such as.(I thing, teached, discovered which is the past with the word soon....)
@@brendon2462 with a good enough pronunciation , and right grammar , it is a lot easier to understand someone than with perfect pronunciation and messy grammar .
Grammar is the spinal cord of a language. We need some kind of structure in order to organize a language and, once we learned that, we can use it with confidence. That's also how we get to break the rules if we need it while expressing ourselves. As a matter of fact, grammar and phonology should go hand in hand when acquiring a new language. It's harder to correct the pronunciation than the grammar of a person.
I can"t resist to sharing my personal experience about the language grammar (from my web site): About the grammar. While it is very important to string together grammatically correct sentences it isn't important to learn the explicit rules of grammar from language textbooks if you want to learn how to understand and speak your target language well. In fact, the human brain is not capable of using any explicit rules of grammar during the fluent speech of about 3 words per second. Just observe yourself speaking your native language to verify this claim. Once again, mastering your native language can serve as an example. You have learned the explicit rules of grammar only in the school, when you already spoke the language well. By the way, the explicit rules of grammar are only a crude approximation of the natural language, having numerous exceptions. The human brain is creating its own implicit rules of grammar subconsciously, when it is exposed to a language for a sufficiently long time. And then, during the fluent speech, the human brain is subconsciously using those implicit rules of grammar again for formulating grammatically correct sentences. The practical conclusion is that you can safely avoid learning any explicit rules of grammar from any language textbooks without impeding your ability to understand and speak your target language with the native proficiency. You will save plenty of time and effort for more productive activities.
(i'm french) .. grammar is important for talking about something in the line of time if something happen before something else .. if you have finish some task etc ect .. in french i didn't know any grammar rule, i've no problem when i talk of course , just when i write maybie you don't know how french are attached to grammar rule, that's horrific :-))
@@syntax_error6882 Some people fail to discriminate between explicit rules of grammar as postulated in the textbooks and implicit, subconscious rules of grammar that every native or skilled speaker has hardwired in his subconscious mind from the process of the language immersion. mostly during childhood.
I totally agree. While speaking there is not enough time to consciously think about grammar rules. According to Stephen Krashen, the only way to learn a language is having a lot of comprehensible input. Not grammar, not memorizing words.
I mean you're learning grammar indirectly through massive comprehensible input. You might not know the rules. But you instinctively know how to format proper sentences. It's like second nature without thinking about it.
Hi, want to mention that i love your videos , example :reverse thinking , that make impact in our self confidence when approach english, sometimes doesnt care attitude is the clue.
That's what I have always considered in my mind and you have named it clearly and concisely. That's the word :more "efficient" way of learning languages (when knowing grama ). Thanks.
I am a Chinese. Chinese does have grammar! The grammar is just totally different from English. Writing Chinese is more efficient to express meaning. The Chinese version is always the thinnest one among the United Nations' documents, for instance.
Grammar is a thiny part of the all process! We should learn it after an amount of exposure like the children do. They start learning grammar at school, not at home. We are adult and we need some explicit rules to learn a language, but I think that it is only a small piece of the picture. Listening and reading are the key to develop the language inside our brain. We need exposure and less grammar at school. I love you videos teacher! Greetings from Italy!
We need grammar, of course, but studying English through grammar is too boring and I don't think it's the best way. I enjoyed this video. Thanks Christian.
Good video. The whole concept of prescriptive grammar is an issue because certain authorities in the case of French being an official one and in the case of English being non-official but with a high reputation such as Oxford don't necessarily reflect how the language actually is. I used to work as an EFL teacher and remember teaching grammar rules such as "fewer" for countable nouns and "less" for uncountable nouns yet the reality is most English speakers just use "less" for both noun classes like how "more" is used in the same way. Or take the time like certain verbs sásta static and can't be used in a progressive form such as "like", "love", "remember" and "forget" yet it's now become common to hear phrases like "I'm really liking this party". The point is languages evolve to respond to certain needs. Maybe using less in the same way as more actually makes sense. Maybe the emergence of new progressive forms of certain verbs brings in a new way to convey an idea like "I'm remembering that situation" which means like "I'm coming to remember something that I'd previously forgotten".
1) Grammar is a VIRTUAL MACHINE of a language. It is invisible but it is there 2) The purpose of this machine is: a) to encode/MODulate outgoing message and b) decode/DEModulate incoming message (yes, it is a virtual MO-DEM built in your head). 3) The logic/algorythm of a modem encoding-decoding(message processing) is called - a PROTOCOL You can violate a protocol to some extent but still have a successful communication. However, it doesn't mean that you are free to do whatever you want. It is just a damn good protocol that allows/tolerates a great deal of your mistakes. 4) Good example of the protocol violation that ruins communication is APHASIA (mental impairment). When you speak with aphasia patient, you have the words but you often cannot recontruct the meaning (because the protocol is critically violated). 5) Key problem of learning grammar is that it is a set of abstract/invisible rules (human brain by nature is very bad a processing abstractions. It takes education to train this ability.) 6) However, human brain is very good at processing NATURAL OBJECTS (something that you can touch, imagine, play with etc). This is why, being and engineer and English teacher, I built a 3D GUI (Graphic User Interface) of a power-core (verbal grammar) of this virtual machine. I called it - Grammar Cube. 7) Here is a video of using it in class (Text to Cube drill - ua-cam.com/video/Ju5HYWgvAQY/v-deo.html ) 8) Here is a reverse drill - ua-cam.com/video/UlLjgulCess/v-deo.html ) and this is how this protocol looks in action ua-cam.com/video/1EplSYkib20/v-deo.html 9) Here is the interactive model to play with (takes some time to upload - cdn.soft8soft.com/AROAJSY2GOEHMOFUVPIOE:c3dc73b09a/applications/GrammarCube/GrammarCube.html? I hope it will be useful for English language students and help them better understand a true natue of a language grammar.
Hi there, thank you for all your enlightening work! In this video you say that language has existed for a million years. I find this information incredibly interesting, because it’s something I’ve always asked myself. So here’s my question: do you know of any articles or studies that I could read on the matter? It’s ok if it was just your idea, but I’d really like to know. Thank you again! Flavia from Italy
I think you can learn grammar implicitly, naturally, rather than explicitly with grammar instruction. All the rules of grammar create inhibition in the speaker, which is already a problem, since most people are afraid of speaking a foreign language. Add in the additional fear of breaking the rules of grammar and you have paralysis and inhibition and lack of progress. Maybe once you are an advanced speaker, you could use some grammar study, but for beginners, I think explicit grammar instruction actually discourages language use. Instead, learn through sentences, so you pick up grammar implicitly. You get a feel for the language by seeing it used in context, rather than mathematically trying to follow 1,000 rules of grammar and the exceptions.
hi Chris. you exploded it in my face! I am 64 an Arabic native-speaker , who is claiming to change and eliminate some old fashion Arabic grammar topics in my short stories ( they reuse to the publisher of course ). For example , we have 2 males and 2 females in grammar which are not used in real people daily life ( you have only singular and plural ) that make it very difficult when we study and write . But it is a deep and secret issue related directly to Muslims holy book . Anyway,thanks to face it .
I love grammars 😍 French , English, German, Spanish ... don't mean I master them at all but it is interesting to understand the way people express things in a different way you would in your language, it's fascinating 🤗. Also pleaaaaase, lazy gits, stop saying you don't like it because your teachers ( because all of them, right ?) taught it the boring way 🤦
Great video, I am bilingual and there are two official institutions that control the languages: Real Academia de la Lengua Española and Acadèmia de la Llengua Catalana. There are working and controlling or admitting or not some new words, or some new forms, because languages are alive. See you on ? the next video. Oh, yous prepositions, always I doubt about them🤗
@CanguroEnglish , In Brazil we have the Academia Brasileira de Letras (Brazilian Academy of Letters). It’s charged with the care of the "national language" of Brazil (the Portuguese language) and with the promotion of Brazilian literary arts. The academy's main publication in this field is the Orthographic Vocabulary of the Portuguese Lan which has five editions. The Vocabulary is prepared by the academy's Commission on Lexicology and Lexicography. If a word is not included in the Vocabulary, it is considered not to exist as a correct word in Brazilian Portuguese.
amazing content as always! you're just different. thanks for sharing! and just to so you and your audience know, portuguese and spanish, for example, also have an institution which decides "what's right and wrong" in their respective languages.
Hi, i'm from Brazil. I'm learning english by miself. It's so hard for me, but i'll don't give up because i can understand lot of things you say. You channel have been greatly helpful for me. Sorry for my writing mystakes.
Hello Mr christian we need lessons on writing skill. your style in teaching is really fantastic. thanks a lot for your efforts to support the foreign learners of English language.
Hello Christian! I have followed a teacher from Brasil - Elisabeth Wagner who has the same way you have to teach -listen listen listen and reapeat.Not read and write as a child learn or a parrot. You could interview her.She is more than 80 years old , a positive person. Thank you!
Hi, Christian. Of course we need grammar. You wouldn't possibly understand someone say in English Tomorrow I you- with markets to go will. That's the way you a Turkish person formulates the idea of Tomorrow I'll go to the markets with you. To put it in a nutshell, this is what grammar is, i.e. the way you put words together to express a thought. This 'way' follows rules, rules which are determined by the language 'grammar'.
@@optimalenglishwithreggie7050 You're so kind. Thank you! I wonder if you leave grammar aside when you teach English to a foreign adult beginner/ intermediate student.
@@lutchbizin6420 Great question Lutch! No I don't. What we usually do is have 1 grammar lesson. Then 2 conversational lessons to perfect the grammar that was learned and then move onto another weak grammar point. Prepositions are usually the most important for that level. I hope this helps :)
Hi Christian. Man, It mustn’t there be someone who doesn’t love your lecture and comments. It actually, is an explanation of how a language, an oral communication system comes up, develops, and works. It’s really amazing!
Hi, Christian, I didn't have idea that you know this song, here in Brazil it was very common in a TV program in the 1980's and 1990's, and the lyric is "Passarinho quer dançar, o rabicho balançar, porque acaba de nascer, tchu, tchu, tchu, tchu..." jejejejeje Gugu Liberato is the singer... By the way, very interesting the video and the question about grammar. Thank you.
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I´ve learned english the way a child do. Listening, listening, listening and more listening for about 3 years and when you know how the music of the language works you can start to speak, read and finally write. It took me 4 5 years the whole language adquisition process.
Thats is thrue really really thrue
Children of 10 can speak languages perfectly but don't know what grammar is (but know subconsciously how to use it). So they've learned it with listening and repeating and creating their own sentences using the phrases they heard for so many times. This methord of learning a new language actually works. For adults even better than for children. We need much less time than chindren need, because our knowledge of our own language is much better which helps us learn other languages (depends of language family of course).
Grammar is a logic description of the elements, relationships among the elements, and the structure of a language.
Once upon the time when there were no accessible translators on the Internet I decided to write a letter in French to my friend in France just to make her astonished and pleased. I new only a few words in French. We always write in English to each other. I took a little Polish-French dictionary and started my work. And then I realized that I need also a little grama to construct sentences. It took me all day to write a letter and I was proud when my friend from France answered that she could understand everything and was so moved by my letter. I is one of this moments when I understood that language is for communication and for expressing friendship to people. Just as you say Christian. You are a great teacher. Kind regards to you from Gdańsk , Poland. Have you visited Poland. Try to write an answer in Polish....of course I am joking.
I´ve learned english the way a child do. Listening, listening, listening and more listening for about 3 years and when you know how the music of the language works you can start to speak, read and finally write. It took me 4 5 years the whole language adquisition process.
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Thank you for sharing you journey with us
When u listened some stuff ... so u used to listened that particular stuff on repetition ?? Plzz reply 🙏
@@priyamehlawat405 I listen to the video on this UA-cam channel with headphones and repeat what I hear, like simultaneous translation. I just don’t translate it and repeat it verbatim. This helps a lot in gaining fluency.
Hi, Everone. My husband has learned Hungarian (!!!) in one year just by listening others speaking it. Without grammar. Now he speaks as a native, still without knowing any grammar. If you have such a talent for languages, you don't need grammar. But it can be a great help though!!!
Hello! That's really interesting! Can I ask how many other languages he speaks, and what is his first language? I would be very grateful for your answer 🤗
@@anfisaignatova Hi, he has Russian parents, but he was born on the territory of Ukraine during the CCCP. He also learned English at school, and Hungarian after settling here 28 years ago.
He speaks 4 languages (Russian, Ukrainian, English, Hungarian) perfectly.
I am Hungarian and I speak Russian and English.
We recently started learning Spanish. I like to see logic, connections patterns in language and between languages. He can't relate to that, he just learns from his gut. 😁
@@teklahuszar6603 very interesting! Thank you for sharing! :))
@@teklahuszar6603There is data showing that Hungarian is easy to learn. Maybe his way of learning doesn't work so well in other languages with an adult brain. I learn English in Spain for 20 years with his method and I speak it so so.
In my view, grammar is what produces meaning when putting together words. Or in other words: grammar is the link between vocabulary and communication.
True, but also you can't quite translate meaning. For example you can say we have to wash the dishes after we eat. Depending on the context of how it's said. It can mean at least three different things. Literally we have to wash the dishes after we eat or expressed in disgust and dislike Or as a question. People sometimes forget it's how you say it to.
@@brendon2462 I agree. This is an additional aspect of communication. Perhaps, the weight of the ingredients also differs between languages. For some, the context is very important, while less so in others.
The answer to that question is easy: grammar is necesary, of course, but we don't have to study grammar... we have to "learn" grammar. Can you see the diference? 😉
Exactly! It's like riding a bike, you learn it by actually riding it
I don't agree this absolutely.I think it's true when you want to learn a language that has a similar logic to a language you already speak, but if you want to learn a language that has a logic totally different from any language you speak I think you should to learn some grammar. I will do an analogy, imagine you have a musical instrument, you don't need to learn musical theory for playing a music, you can learn how to play any music without learning musical theory, but if you want to compose a music? If you don't know musical theory enough to compose the excerpt you are imagining, so you can only combine other excerpts you already know to form this, but does something secure you are imagining an excerpt that is a combination of excerpts you already know? The same thing happens if you are learning a language totally different from any language you know, you can only combine structures that you already know to form new structures, but nothing secures the structure you are imagining is a combination of structures you already know, because of this I think learning grammar is important when you learning a language totally different from any language you already speak.
Pardon for my English, I'm learning, and I writed this coment without the helping of the translator.
Grammar is a technical knowledge if you make it explicit, but grammar is also a logic relationship between words that you learn implicitly. See this example that I lived: My husband had to take an exam to demonstrate his level of English for a PhD. He never took courses and he never traveled to an anglo-saxon country, but he always listened to music, watched movies and read scientific articles in English. He went to an English School and took the Michigan without studying or even practicing, he is so self-confident (and so brave to do that)!
Because of the urgency to start his PhD and because he's not affraid of the people's judgment, he jumped in to it! but my prejudices made me think that he was going to fail embarrassingly.
He obtained B2 in speaking!🎉!.. But A beginner in grammar!!! (filling the blanks is something he never did before and those broken phrases were a headache for him)... however reading and writing went good. He entered to the PhD program successfully.
As I teach philosophy of language, in linguistics, this particular case made me confirmed many of the theories of natural learning. I was completely stunned. He doesn't know grammar, but he does.
Grammar is the glue that holds language and culture together.
I certainly learned German "on the street" back in the 70s, as we had no money to pay for lessons or grammar books. Back in those days, people in Germany were not so capable of conversing in English (lucky for me, I guess), so it was either sink or swim. I was fluent wthin the first year. Might not be the best way for everyone, but it worked for me.
A good common-sense conclusion. I really don't know why people make this so complicated. If you hate grammar and are intimidated by it, of course you can learn without it. But learning by deducing language patterns from massive input is slow - it takes children a decade to talk like 10-year-olds. And it's a faculty that declines rapidly with age, so the older you are the harder it gets.
On the other hand our ability to read and to reason develops with age. So unless you really actively hate working with grammar patterns, spending a bit of time learning to recognise them and automate them will pay off handsomely in terms of speeding up your progress. Just use it as an aid to your interaction with native language, and not as an end in itself. And that, surely, is about all you need to say about it, despite the oceans of impassioned debate on the UA-cam vlogosphere...
Thank you for this interesting and educational video. Your pronunciation is so clear and understandable . I've got great pleasure listening to you. I think you're a good teacher ! I'm looking forward to see next videos from you! Best regards from Ukraine!👍
Hi Christian, thanks for this video! I would like to add some things :
As the definition says, grammar is the way we organize words together in a certain logic. > So grammar exists since language exists, with or without books. Books are just one way to transmit this knowledge.
So when you learn a language you might need/want to know the “secrets” behind the sentences you express or not. Grammar rules are these “secrets” and you don’t NEED them to speak but you might WANT to know them to speed up your learning process.
Also, in French, we do have respect for the Académie Française, but their power is less and less strong ( they are not so modern people), because we want to let the language evolve a little bit faster (faster than the Académie would like it to evolve sometimes). And this is a long and complex subject. But I would like to finish with this : when we don’t follow the official rules, the ones from the Académie for example, that does not mean we don’t follow any rule, we just follow ANOTHER rule, because a language does not exists without rules, as you shown in the first study you talked about with the children.
Voilà! A bientôt. Elsa
Another interesting fact is that as France is more or less the center of Esperanto language they made analogously Academy of Esperanto to do same stuff :)
The best teacher ..I'm addicted to his videos and I'm catching up all his live videos since 2016 ...it's kind of serie for me ...I'm fan of his way to teach ..thank you Mr Christian
You are a philosopher of LANGUAGE,it attracts learners,making them more
thotfull about the ways of studying .Thank you for thoughts.
Cantonese Chinese is my mother and I can speak mandarin Chinese, not very fluently though. if grammar is like what it is in English,,like the English grammar. I would say Chinese is like almost gramnarless. we don't have articles, tenses, and the like in Chinese. I remembered when I started to study English at the age of 17, I opened a pocket dictionary of English, the first thing that baffled me was a, an and the. the lack of tenses in Chinese make Chinese people speak in a way that is confusing . when someone is recounting past events, the timeline in which things happened is not clear, what came first and what came later..the lack of pronouns of he, she and it in spoken Chinese makes it hard for the listener to follow which aforementioned items they refer to. no singular and plural forms of nouns can influence the way one thinks.
the underdeveloped nature of the Chinese language makes it easy for many native English speakers to learn to be fluent after their failed attempts at other foreign languages like French, German or Spanish.
as some linguistists have said that Chinese was a baby talk, that's why Chinese civilization can not develop to be a modern civilization, like the western civilization. or the anglo saxon civilization.
Chinese culture is like an ancient culture.
edit :Chinese do have parts of speech and word order.
英國Britain ，英國人a brit,Briton, a British person, an Englishman ，英語English, the language.
英國人在in英國說speak 英語。
the British people 人in Britain speak說English.
the Brits speak English in Britain.
I can't go on, it is too complicated.
I love Chinese music and I always dance and sing with them!!💙💜For me Chinese go beyond communication! It's pure eternal art!!
You remind me with Bahasa Indonesia with no tenses, no mention gender etc like Mandarin
OMG! So very interesting. Little did I know. Thanks for the explanation..
Language learning is fun if you teach it. you made it easier for us. love u Christian.
After 22 minutes we arrive at the answer: “chicken dance.” Hahaha A little bit of this and a little bit of that. The best answer to a very complex question.
Thanks a lot
19:55 Thank you for saying this)))
"Learning a language only through watching television and having conversations that's not the most efficient way to learn a language "
I think grammar is always a matter. It is, probably, not necessary to have a deep understanding of grammar in order to learn some basics of English or any other analytic language. It is enough to know the most important structures: how to build a narrative or interrogative sentence, have some understanding of the English tenses system. But if you want to speak or, especially, to write in any language at a sufficiently high level, knowledge of grammar is necessary.
To learn a synthetic language like Russian, you need to pay attention to grammar from the very beginning. Without knowledge of gender, cases, declensions, etc. it will be often impossible to construct correctly an elementary sentence.
Or learning Spanish you have to memorize from the very beginning: yo - soy, tu - eres... I suppose this is also a grammar.
That is not absolutely true, I have been learning the Russian language with Duolingo and can construct some sentences correctly,
I suppose I have acquired some grammar without studying it. by the way i also learned english with duolingo
@@egustavps Show us your C2 level certificate in English and Russian.
I like your videos. I'm agree. Grammar is your friend which help you understanding other people. For example, 我爱你。你爱我。The first is "I love you". The second sentence is "You love me". It's grammar too. I won't understand it, if I didn't know grammar. Thank you for your answer. I shared your video.
Hey, this is my first comment for about 2 years I have been watching this lovely channel. I have to say Christian, you have been doing a great job, you will have anyone speaking! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are amazing Teacher from the capital letter as we say in Ukraine. I hope the society realize your BIG message that you are trying to bring to everyone. You have already deserved a golden memorial for that job, they don't just understand it yet. I pray God to give us power to fight unless we win.
they say that not only in Ukraine. I am talking about 'the capital letter'.
Thanks.I agree with you 100%
I thing that so many people hate grammar is The way that It is teached, as a boring thing. I love grammar beacause i discovered It soon its importance in my life.
But I would say for speaking that pronunciation, intonation, stresses, reductions, exc. Are far more important in speaking. Because if you can speak so clearly. Close to a native level. Even if you mess up the grammar some. They will still understand you easily. Besides you can improve your grammar later on. Eventually you will make less mistakes. For example you could say I my dog walk today. Yea grammar wise it'swrong. But if they say it really good. Then you will still easily understand it no problem.
The way that it is taught... not teached.
I think you really need grammar so that you could learn how not to fall in such mistakes in writing. such as.(I thing, teached, discovered which is the past with the word soon....)
@@brendon2462 with a good enough pronunciation , and right grammar , it is a lot easier to understand someone than with perfect pronunciation and messy grammar .
thank you so much lovely teacher
Grammar is the spinal cord of a language. We need some kind of structure in order to organize a language and, once we learned that, we can use it with confidence. That's also how we get to break the rules if we need it while expressing ourselves. As a matter of fact, grammar and phonology should go hand in hand when acquiring a new language. It's harder to correct the pronunciation than the grammar of a person.
You should learn linguistics bro! :) You'll know later what you're talking about. :)
I enjoyed the Information from this video as well as the others that you have made. Thanks, Chris!😁
You are the best teacher Chistian !!
"Language can not exist without grammar". Loved it.
no! grammar can not exist without language
I can"t resist to sharing my personal experience about the language grammar (from my web site):
About the grammar.
While it is very important to string together grammatically correct sentences it isn't important to learn the explicit rules of grammar from language textbooks if you want to learn how to understand and speak your target language well. In fact, the human brain is not capable of using any explicit rules of grammar during the fluent speech of about 3 words per second. Just observe yourself speaking your native language to verify this claim. Once again, mastering your native language can serve as an example. You have learned the explicit rules of grammar only in the school, when you already spoke the language well. By the way, the explicit rules of grammar are only a crude approximation of the natural language, having numerous exceptions. The human brain is creating its own implicit rules of grammar subconsciously, when it is exposed to a language for a sufficiently long time. And then, during the fluent speech, the human brain is subconsciously using those implicit rules of grammar again for formulating grammatically correct sentences. The practical conclusion is that you can safely avoid learning any explicit rules of grammar from any language textbooks without impeding your ability to understand and speak your target language with the native proficiency. You will save plenty of time and effort for more productive activities.
(i'm french) .. grammar is important for talking about something in the line of time
if something happen before something else .. if you have finish some task etc ect ..
in french i didn't know any grammar rule, i've no problem when i talk of course , just when i write
maybie you don't know how french are attached to grammar rule, that's horrific :-))
@@syntax_error6882 Some people fail to discriminate between explicit rules of grammar as postulated in the textbooks and implicit, subconscious rules of grammar that every native or skilled speaker has hardwired in his subconscious mind from the process of the language immersion. mostly during childhood.
I totally agree. While speaking there is not enough time to consciously think about grammar rules. According to Stephen Krashen, the only way to learn a language is having a lot of comprehensible input. Not grammar, not memorizing words.
I mean you're learning grammar indirectly through massive comprehensible input. You might not know the rules. But you instinctively know how to format proper sentences. It's like second nature without thinking about it.
Spot on great explanation 👍
Thanks a lot! That was great!
God, I love this guy! So much energy!
I came here for the best day of the week greeting.
this is the first time i've seen this video,as a matter in fact i'm truly excited to be here.
Hi, want to mention that i love your videos , example :reverse thinking , that make impact in our self confidence when approach english, sometimes doesnt care attitude is the clue.
The short answer is : yes , a little bit .
That's what I have always considered in my mind and you have named it clearly and concisely. That's the word :more "efficient" way of learning languages (when knowing grama ). Thanks.
I just love you and your ways Christian.👏👏👏
I'm a translator and teacher of English from Argentina
Grammar introduces thinking way of the people, which language are you learning.
I am a Chinese. Chinese does have grammar! The grammar is just totally different from English. Writing Chinese is more efficient to express meaning. The Chinese version is always the thinnest one among the United Nations' documents, for instance.
Grammar is a thiny part of the all process! We should learn it after an amount of exposure like the children do. They start learning grammar at school, not at home. We are adult and we need some explicit rules to learn a language, but I think that it is only a small piece of the picture. Listening and reading are the key to develop the language inside our brain. We need exposure and less grammar at school.
I love you videos teacher! Greetings from Italy!
Sono assolutamente d'accordo con tutto quello che hai scritto. 👍
Thiny? What is it?
@@loredanatagliaferri5339 hi native here he meant tiny
I love all the videos from canguru English, but that's such a great one because talks about science and experiments, testing hipoteses etc.
A FABULOUS SPEAKER AND TEACHER
It's the same exact thing as "Inside jokes" One word or a phrase can mean many things completely... Good job.
Thanks from amazônia, Brasil
I'm getting.
It's amazing.
I'm learning with you.
Very hard.
Sound in the ear hears your Voice.🙏
We need grammar, of course, but studying English through grammar is too boring and I don't think it's the best way. I enjoyed this video. Thanks Christian.
Thanks, Christian.😊
Hello Chrys you are absolutely right. I am waiting for your videos all days, Please make videos more frequently
Good video. The whole concept of prescriptive grammar is an issue because certain authorities in the case of French being an official one and in the case of English being non-official but with a high reputation such as Oxford don't necessarily reflect how the language actually is. I used to work as an EFL teacher and remember teaching grammar rules such as "fewer" for countable nouns and "less" for uncountable nouns yet the reality is most English speakers just use "less" for both noun classes like how "more" is used in the same way. Or take the time like certain verbs sásta static and can't be used in a progressive form such as "like", "love", "remember" and "forget" yet it's now become common to hear phrases like "I'm really liking this party". The point is languages evolve to respond to certain needs. Maybe using less in the same way as more actually makes sense. Maybe the emergence of new progressive forms of certain verbs brings in a new way to convey an idea like "I'm remembering that situation" which means like "I'm coming to remember something that I'd previously forgotten".
Greetings from Brasil. Thank you
Thank for a very useful information!)
1) Grammar is a VIRTUAL MACHINE of a language. It is invisible but it is there
2) The purpose of this machine is:
a) to encode/MODulate outgoing message and
b) decode/DEModulate incoming message
(yes, it is a virtual MO-DEM built in your head).
3) The logic/algorythm of a modem encoding-decoding(message processing) is called - a PROTOCOL
You can violate a protocol to some extent but still have a successful communication. However, it doesn't mean that you are free to do whatever you want. It is just a damn good protocol that allows/tolerates a great deal of your mistakes.
4) Good example of the protocol violation that ruins communication is APHASIA (mental impairment). When you speak with aphasia patient, you have the words but you often cannot recontruct the meaning (because the protocol is critically violated).
5) Key problem of learning grammar is that it is a set of abstract/invisible rules (human brain by nature is very bad a processing abstractions. It takes education to train this ability.)
6) However, human brain is very good at processing NATURAL OBJECTS (something that you can touch, imagine, play with etc). This is why, being and engineer and English teacher, I built a 3D GUI (Graphic User Interface) of a power-core (verbal grammar) of this virtual machine. I called it - Grammar Cube.
7) Here is a video of using it in class (Text to Cube drill - ua-cam.com/video/Ju5HYWgvAQY/v-deo.html )
8) Here is a reverse drill - ua-cam.com/video/UlLjgulCess/v-deo.html )
and this is how this protocol looks in action ua-cam.com/video/1EplSYkib20/v-deo.html
9) Here is the interactive model to play with (takes some time to upload - cdn.soft8soft.com/AROAJSY2GOEHMOFUVPIOE:c3dc73b09a/applications/GrammarCube/GrammarCube.html?
I hope it will be useful for English language students and help them better understand a true natue of a language grammar.
A great video. Thanks.
Hi there, thank you for all your enlightening work! In this video you say that language has existed for a million years. I find this information incredibly interesting, because it’s something I’ve always asked myself. So here’s my question: do you know of any articles or studies that I could read on the matter? It’s ok if it was just your idea, but I’d really like to know. Thank you again! Flavia from Italy
I think you can learn grammar implicitly, naturally, rather than explicitly with grammar instruction. All the rules of grammar create inhibition in the speaker, which is already a problem, since most people are afraid of speaking a foreign language. Add in the additional fear of breaking the rules of grammar and you have paralysis and inhibition and lack of progress. Maybe once you are an advanced speaker, you could use some grammar study, but for beginners, I think explicit grammar instruction actually discourages language use. Instead, learn through sentences, so you pick up grammar implicitly. You get a feel for the language by seeing it used in context, rather than mathematically trying to follow 1,000 rules of grammar and the exceptions.
It's so interesting to listen to You! The information is so alternative and alive(not sure if the words are properly used)) Thank you so much!❤
Excellent! I loved it! Was really good! Thank you so much 🙏
Great sir you are very interesting teacher
Love this amazing guy... thaks Christian...
hi Chris. you exploded it in my face! I am 64 an Arabic native-speaker , who is claiming to change and eliminate some old fashion Arabic grammar topics in my short stories ( they reuse to the publisher of course ). For example , we have 2 males and 2 females in grammar which are not used in real people daily life ( you have only singular and plural ) that make it very difficult when we study and write . But it is a deep and secret issue related directly to Muslims holy book . Anyway,thanks to face it .
Thanks, Christian. I am looking forward to your next video.
When I watch your video I get happy it is easy to understand
I have been learning english for ten years! I like your lessons very much!
Thanks teacher, your style to teach is unique...
It is as Dr Maturana said "language builds a reality"
I always enjoy your videos so thanks
Hi Cristian. From Brasil . I can learn english better with your viewpoint . Thank s
Learning a language is enjoying the language.
Christian you are awesome ! Thank you !
18:13 the answer I was waiting for 21:32 that's RIGHT.
Best teacher ever!!
Great teacher
You are amazing!!! Thanks Christian...
I love grammars 😍 French , English, German, Spanish ... don't mean I master them at all but it is interesting to understand the way people express things in a different way you would in your language, it's fascinating 🤗. Also pleaaaaase, lazy gits, stop saying you don't like it because your teachers ( because all of them, right ?) taught it the boring way 🤦
Sir. It's very wonderful classes. Thank u very much
Excellent, Professor !
You are a great human being! 🙏🏻
Thank you Christian! Very interesting your explanation.
The kind of teacher you wish you had and hope kids get today.
Great video. Thank you very much.
What a fantastic tutorial !!. That's
Great video,
I am bilingual and there are two official institutions that control the languages:
Real Academia de la Lengua Española
and Acadèmia de la Llengua Catalana.
There are working and controlling or admitting or not some new words, or some new forms, because languages are alive.
See you on ? the next video. Oh, yous prepositions, always I doubt about them🤗
I loved the video so much...thanks a lot Christian...
@CanguroEnglish , In Brazil we have the Academia Brasileira de Letras (Brazilian Academy of Letters).
It’s charged with the care of the "national language" of Brazil (the Portuguese language) and with the promotion of Brazilian literary arts. The academy's main publication in this field is the Orthographic Vocabulary of the Portuguese Lan which has five editions.
The Vocabulary is prepared by the academy's Commission on Lexicology and Lexicography. If a word is not included in the Vocabulary, it is considered not to exist as a correct word in Brazilian Portuguese.
I'm an American and I would say that you can learn grammar indirectly.
amazing content as always! you're just different. thanks for sharing! and just to so you and your audience know, portuguese and spanish, for example, also have an institution which decides "what's right and wrong" in their respective languages.
You are amazing teacher Thank you for you explanation 👍
Hi, i'm from Brazil. I'm learning english by miself. It's so hard for me, but i'll don't give up because i can understand lot of things you say. You channel have been greatly helpful for me. Sorry for my writing mystakes.
Hello from Uzbekistan))😘😘
Hello Mr christian we need lessons on writing skill. your style in teaching is really fantastic. thanks a lot for your efforts to support the foreign learners of English language.
Hello Christian! I have followed a teacher from Brasil - Elisabeth Wagner who has the same way you have to teach -listen listen listen and reapeat.Not read and write as a child learn or a parrot.
You could interview her.She is more than 80 years old , a positive person.
Thank you!
philosophizing about the language.. Un abrazo desde Venezuela!
grammar is an explanation of the language, and for people just need to speak.
Thank You for Your reaserch. I understood perfectly.
I’m from Argentina.
I have lucky to discovered your channel
Hi, Christian. Of course we need grammar. You wouldn't possibly understand someone say in English Tomorrow I you- with markets to go will. That's the way you a Turkish person formulates the idea of Tomorrow I'll go to the markets with you. To put it in a nutshell, this is what grammar is, i.e. the way you put words together to express a thought. This 'way' follows rules, rules which are determined by the language 'grammar'.
My friend Lutch! I'm an English teacher with 6 years experience! Let me know if you have any English questions :)
@@optimalenglishwithreggie7050 You're so kind. Thank you! I wonder if you leave grammar aside when you teach English to a foreign adult beginner/ intermediate student.
@@lutchbizin6420 Great question Lutch! No I don't. What we usually do is have 1 grammar lesson. Then 2 conversational lessons to perfect the grammar that was learned and then move onto another weak grammar point. Prepositions are usually the most important for that level. I hope this helps :)
Hi Christian. Man, It mustn’t there be someone who doesn’t love your lecture and comments. It actually, is an explanation of how a language, an oral communication system comes up, develops, and works. It’s really amazing!
Hi, Christian, I didn't have idea that you know this song, here in Brazil it was very common in a TV program in the 1980's and 1990's, and the lyric is "Passarinho quer dançar, o rabicho balançar, porque acaba de nascer, tchu, tchu, tchu, tchu..." jejejejeje Gugu Liberato is the singer... By the way, very interesting the video and the question about grammar. Thank you.
Always impressed watching your videos