Lizzo is a Manipulative, Lying Villain (in my opinion)
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her "I'm open with my sexuality" argument is hurting both victims of sexual harassment and people who are actually sexually open but are regular humans who know what consent is
Honestly 😭😭 like I would NEVER do ANYTHING to make someone uncomfortable like I am very sexually open with people who tell me it’s okay! I don’t even let it get to the point where they have to tell me they’re uncomfortable because I always ask before I mention something sexual (unless I know they’re comfy with it). Sucks she’s weaponizing sexually open behavior to justify literal harassment 😕
The thing is that the entire thing is alleged
@@leyalaatasto9096 Ahh, don’t get me wrong I never called myself a fan of Lizzo even though I liked her radio songs. I fully agree with this! It’s disgusting what money can do for those who know how to use it
@@Leviachan- oh crap tagged the wrong person sorry! let me edit that real quick
@@ellishines9833 THE THING IS you should reassess the fact you're supporting a potential sexual assaulter instead of potential liars... and NO, they're not the same thing.
Even if it does come out the dancers were only doing this for a payout it won't hurt Lizzo at all, she'll just pay and come back and everyone will move on from it.
Honestly it’s wired how people bring up the fat shaming much more than the sexual harassment.
it is really weird but i do understand it. Unfortunately sexual harassment isn’t very uncommon. people are used to hearing horrific stories of sexual abuse. I think the reason people are talking about the fat shaming is bc she made her whole brand around body positivity so the hypocrisy of it was extra shocking. I definitely agree that the sexual harassment is wayyyyy more disgusting and deserves more of the focus tho
I think its because Lizzo whole brand is being a plus size women and she embraces that. She is building her legacy on her weight moreso her talent. While she can sing, a lot of the support comes from her not fitting the beauty standards. So when the news broke that she is "fatophoic" it was a slap in the face because she preaches so much about having a safe space for them. The sexual harassment thing didnt really surprise me because Lizzo has an issue of when to be appropriate.
I think it’s because her whole thing is that she stands for anti fat phobia
I blame people not taking women on women sexual harassment seriously.
Its likely cause now they have an excuse to fatshame her now
the way lizzo apologised / justified it was DISGUSTING. she claims she is "open with her sexuality". what a great way to minimise SA victims experiences!
Honestly.
Fr
Yep, you can be open with your own sexuality without forcing other people into uncomfortable situations for them and sexually harassing your employees.
i mean would you expect her to confess tho?
so she’s saying if they were more ‘open’ with their sexuality they wouldn’t consider it SA that happened to them and therefore it’s their fault????
1:57 The problem is also that the nude DANCER said no. She did not consent or want to be touched that way so she forced her employees to sexually assault another person.
7:44 She made them re-audition for their jobs again as punishment because she said they were all doing poorly and they could not eat or use the bathroom for 12 hours. That is disgustingly inhumane. If every single professional dancer is terrible to you, the problem is you, not them.
I think you misunderstood the part about the dancers saying no. The dancers are the employees of Lizzo, and the “performers” are the ones Lizzo is pressuring them to touch. It’s ok tho!! I was a bit confused at first too :) /lh /nm
the nude dancer that lizzo was telling her employees to go touch said No that she didnt want lizzos employees touching her. i think you didnt understand@@allietheotaku
@@allietheotaku correct and the nude dancer AND the employees both said no. Most nude dancers are "look only". You aren't allowed to touch most of them.
Most dancers have a no touch rule for safety, and even then, I think they'd be uncomfortable if someone was forced to touch them in anyway
With the Lizzo and Colleen Ballinger conversations going on, I'm hoping that people start understanding that Sexual Abuse doesn't necessarily mean a predator wants to have sex with the victim.
Sexual abuse is about power. Having inappropriate sexual conversations with kids and forcing employees to participate in sexual acts are both abuses of power, and in both cases, examples of using sex as the weapon.
If you feel uncomfortable in a conversation, you do not have to participate in that conversation. It doesn't matter if it's a friend or an online acquaintance, you are not less cool for keeping a boundary.
yes!! you don’t have to lay hands on someone or catcall them to be a sxual harasser
Adding Stephen Crowder to the mix and nobody can escape that lesson by now, surely?
Yes. There's a whole realm of psychosexual behavior that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to have sex with, or even touch, the "participants" or "victims", depending on whether those people A. Know exactly what's going on and B. Still consent.
If I put you in a video and threw apples at you, I was really excited to do it and you were like ok it's art that's fine but later found out apple throwing was my fetish and I JOed to the video and had been conning people into that situation for years you'd probably feel violated whereas without knowing that or intuiting that, without the context, you'd be fine with the apples. Like how in retrospect Schneider was clearly doing foot fetish videos with tweens and calling it ICarly, and most people incl myself were just like oh it's a wacky kids show they're just being wacky
True!!
Specifically I'm saying that Colleen wasn't necessarily Specifically grooming those fans with the intent of having sexual relationships or contact with them in the future, which is what I think of as the most definitive meaning of Grooming, but that she was still getting off psychosexually by manipulating them, and it was emotional or psychological abuse with a sexual character to it, if not strictly SA in very literal terms. That would come to a legal definition which would vary by state etc. She was definitely creeping with creep intent.
Cooper discussing these things while trying his best to not be disrespectful gives me hope for humanity.
He’s tryna find the words to describe this girl without being disrespectfullllllll 😂😂
Right and I’ve noticed his comment section seems to mirror him. Pretty cool community here :)
@@CestLaaaVieit’s always a nice and respectful time in the film cooper comment sections :]
Yup, just a big ol' happy wholesome time
Cooper is so wholesome, we need wayyy more guys as mature and good-hearted as he is fr
Bro, there is a HUGE difference between being comfortable with your sexuality and being comfortable with sexually harassing your employees. It’s disgusting how her platform is built on how fatphobia shouldn’t be a thing, and that you can be healthy and big, but she has reportedly been fatphobic in the past to her employees. The fact that Lizzo not only excused this behavior, she made herself the victim. She didn’t even make an attempt to apologize. This is just so revolting.
TBH This tells me she's not comfortable with her sexuality because she's forcing others to conform to her idea of what is and isn't okay. Being comfortable in your sexuality is like a man being comfortable with his masculinity,. If someone else not doing exactly what they deem is the correct way and it makes them upset... their confidence and comfortability within themselves is very fragile and basically nonexistent. I'm extremely comfortable in my sexuality and I know someone around 27 who just recently lost her V card. She said she was surprised that when we first met and she was a V I was so chill/didn't make any weird comments like other people have (especially since I'm very sex positive). I told her that's her journey, her sexuality and no one should have anything to say negative about it if she's not purposefully hurting herself or others. It's sad who Lizzo is and I hope she gets therapy/arrested since it seems that all of these allegations have proof.
@@rita8274 your comment does bring to mind the why behind her behavior. I do agree that she clearly is not comfortable in her sexuality if she feels the need to get validation to force others in on the same acts to bring her peace of mind that she is okay for having the sexual behaviors that she does. And It even makes sense as to why it was her dancers and driver that she wanted it from.
I REALLY DESPISE Lizzo. She does not deserve her fame. She also makes REALLY shitty music.
@@paulthomas963that’s not sex positivity then. the whole point is consent and being able to do what YOU want. your old friends weren’t comfortable with their sexuality or sec positive, and lizzo isn’t either
@@paulthomas963 Yep. Happened to me. Exactly that. Got laughed at for leaving for the bathroom to "finish myself" cuz I wasnt comftable at all, but too far gone to not end up with blue balloons. It sucks. I was coerced into it with statements like "You don't think I'm pretty?", "Don't you like boobies in you face?" and "You're so sex positive, isn't it what you want?"... By two people, one thinking he was simply being a good wingman to her...
eurrgh...
I'm comfortable and open about being pansexual. That is NOT an excuse to sexually assault or harass someone. Are you kidding me?
EXACTLY!!! i’m comfortable and open about being lesbian but i WILL NOT go around and sexually harass women? or force them to do something they are not comfortable with, ESPECIALLY sexually.
@@ratdoodles4370 It's truly insane! 🖤
@@indiafox5786 yeah! i can’t believe it honestly.
@@ratdoodles4370 You all have mental issues
So you're bi
It’s insane to see someone who’s built a platform on body positivity and is also literally ridiculed for being over weight constantly to fat shame people :(
Edit for clarification : obviously the sexual harrasment is worse but at this point it’s not very surprising to see a celebrity be a sexual predator unless they literally built their platform around ending sexual abuse and standing up for victims or something . Only reason I commented on the body shaming part is because it was the part that was genuinely surprising , not because I thought it was worth more focus. I am so surprised by the amount of attention this comment has gotten -
Yeah the hypocrisy is so weird
Projected self hatred, and Internalized fat phobia.
That's why her whole PR thing is "I'm an acceptable fat person, I'm vegan and exercise therefore body positivity"- she qualifies* her body positivity vs actual self acceptance or acceptance of others
Fr
Ok
Hurt people hurt people. 🙁
Can we stop thinking that being ‘sexually open’ is simply being crass, aggressive or immature with others in an inappropriate manner? Just as I don’t have the right to judge what you find sexually exciting, YOU don’t have the right to force me or put me in a situation to have to participate or do what YOU think is fun or sexually open.
This, this right here! Say it louder for the people in the back.
Or an excuse to eye down, harass, cat call women with your boyfriend 🤮
This, this, THIS☝️
So right, this is disgusting and no one gets a pass including Lizzo. She's just a performer people!!
@@megansteele2555yes!
I can’t find one good artist who hasn’t done something so damn horrendous that it doesn’t make me want to projectile vomit
fr,
Unfortunately your right
frl I feel like there's only one or two bands that I like haven't been called out for something horrible yet and that's probably just bc they're smaller bands 😭
almost no artist is safe from drama or controversy no matter how good of a person/people they are 😭
Eminem?
Lizzo’s about to pull out the flue and do this apology Colleen style. “I’m not a fat shamer, just a flute player”
so weird how people keep focusing on the fat shaming part and not the fact that she sexually assaulted her staff
And now she has quit music!
lmfao perfect
LMFAO IM HOLLERING
As an old lady on social media, raising little kids, You and people like you having these discussions so respectfully gives me hope for the future.
as a young person who one day wants kids, this too gives me hope for our future! cooper makes me feel like good men ARE indeed out there :)
Agree 💯
Me too, Dee ❤😊😊😊
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it sucks because i feel like a lot of people liked her because of the image she represented. like she kind of showed you can be successful without meeting "industry standards", and she completely destroyed that by fat shaming her employees, not to mention everything else she did to them.
That’s it. That’s mainly why it hurts. I’m not obsessed with her but I was very proud her.
I saw a lot of her posts over the years on insta was her twerking, no problem with that... buuut, i saw one post of her doing it in public, on a park, with children around... Well, it seems that she was always inappropriate
Exactly I used to like her but not anymore
Yeah, she totally blew it
Industry plant 😂
cooper adding the “in my opinion” so he stays legally unproblematic we love thaaaaat
Lol
smartest move ever
He’s learned from watching Ethan from H3 getting in so many lawsuits😂😂
more like doing that so people like u wont dox him
@@skittleyt3099 huh? i dont dox people i was just makin a joke bro
I'm pretty sure that shit counts as sexual assault, not just harassment. Harassment would be saying "nice tits", if you heavily pressure your employees to engage in sexual acts, even if they're not with you, that's straight up sexual assault. That's beyond getting sued, that's a sex crime and could, and probably should, result in some sort of criminal investigation. I hope her employees get a massive payout, I can't imagine my boss making me do that
Love how you’re so respectful in the titles after you say something that has people gasping
I agree
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Lol
He does that to not get sued lol
how
The fat shaming can very easily be projection. Projecting her own insecurities on other people.
The sexual harassment on the other hand... there's no excuse for that.
even projection isn’t really an excuse imo. she’s a grown woman, she should know better.
Projection isnt a exuse either. Making people feel bad because you do isnt healthy for you or the victim.
@@ZaF4ran Excuse =/= Explanation. They're different things.
@@LaylaSpellwind yeah I was just pointing out it wasnt an exuse. I might of also misinterpreted your comment when I wrote that reply
@@ZaF4ranYes. Thank you
If I got a nickel for every time an artist I used to like turned out to be a horrible person I would have way too many nickels
Fr 😭
FRR
YEAH FR
A concerning amount of nickels, tbh :(
I love how he says “ITS A BOUT DAMN TIME” out of nowhere
Former dancer: a 12 hour, unplanned audition basically means their entire day hinged on being present for almost half a day. They were already on the team and had signed contracts. If there is an issue with quality, that could be addressed in a small group session without the other 30 dancers
12 hours in a dance studio basically turns the space into a bacterial sauna. That means the floors weren't sanitized after 5 hrs which is literally how long a dance room is usually used.
Former dancer too: I've seen people pass out for way less time than that. 12 hour is totally insane!!!
another thing, many dancers COULD perform 12 hours in a day if they HAD to… but performing is noooothing like auditioning. with being on stage, theres a Huge amount of adrenaline that comes into play and helps you keep ur energy. there are breaks for bathroom and eating. auditions are fast pace, drills, new choreography or timing, its a mind game as much as it is physical. to force your EMPLOYED dancers to audition for 12 hours nonstop is literally torture. its a miracle none of them died. an unknown heart condition, anything. i literally wanted to cry hearing that part again because thats not at ALL how actual auditions work those poor women
I was so crushed when I heard that this happened-but no matter what she did, it’s no excuse to be fatphobic, homophobic, or racist towards her.
Isn’t she straight?
@@lulaa123 she’s been hinting she’s bi but not labelling it
fr i said this on instgram and some white girl attacked me and started saying the most racist shit to me 💀
(then ofc ig suspended me from commenting for a week bc god forbid i defended myself lmao)
Agreed. Call people out for the things they did wrong. Don't sink to their level by using inexcusable slurs because they are suddenly a convenient target. It cheapens you and it weakens the discussion.
If she's fatphobic then she deserves to be fatshamed, she's not the victim here but if you run around insulting chubby women of color then don't run around crying when people call you a colossal whale who has no room to be saying that crap.
Its so crazy that shes fatphobic but remember everyone that this is not an excuse to fatshame her, just because someone is a horrible person doesnt mean we can make fun of how they look that is NEVER the right thing to do!
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if you can't critique someone's terrible behaviour without insulting them, then you're a bully too! like slam the gross behaviour! we hate that!! disappointed!! shameful! and not cool! but anyone who's spammed her tiktok being fatphobic is doing everything she's accused of...?????
Facts
This guy is so cute 😭😭😭 The way he stutters and tries to correct him self when he thinks hes being offensive. I love this guy.
I KNOW RIGHT? film cooper on top
He’s so cute bruh 😭 I’d give him the world if I could
He’s super cute ong
Hell, im genderfluid, and even coming from me being a man half the time, i still love this dude.. he is a cutie.. i aint even gay lol. I hope he finds himself a nice gal or a guy
@@badbreakingbadvideos He has a fiance (unfortunately 😭)
I completely agree with your views on fat acceptance. I'm a doctor and I can't say it's healthy to be obese. But I don't think health is the point. Why do we moralise health? So many people are unhealthy in different ways and fat-phobes use "unhealthy" as a euphemism for "unappealing". No matter how healthy or unhealthy someone is - no one should be bullied or called out about their bodies. Let people live. Fat people know they're fat, they don't need you to tell them.
Perfectly said!
Sorry, could you clarify what you mean by moralise health...?
this -
@@falakrafi Like being healthy makes you a good person. And doing unhealthy things makes you a bad, lazy person
Simply not true . In the age of the internet people feel justified in commenting on anyone’s health when it’s in said person’s control . The conversation around cigarettes/vaping, drugs, not going to therapy and obesity is very public . The only unhealthy thing people seem to not have as much of a problem with is drinking .
This is so disappointing to me. As both a survivor of sexual assault and someone whose fat and has struggled with body image issues, this made me feel so sick. I loved Lizzo- her music made me happy and got me hyped through college (especially during competition season for debate). But this? There is not “explaining away” or “apologizing” to “fix” sexual harassment and assault. The fatphobia makes me sad, but doesn’t quite surprise me, as I also struggle with (albeit internalized) fatphobia- but treating dancers and EMPLOYEES LIKE THIS?!? Absolutely awful. Accountability and Just Action needs to be taken.
I agree. I kind of looked up to Lizzo. I’ve struggled with my weight all my life, and I’ve been SA’ed multiple times in my life which contributed to my weight issues.
I thought she gave bigger girls a voice and gave them a chance to shine and to look beautiful. To hear that she was doing these kind of things and was hating on larger bodies is so disgusting. It makes you think that there is no one you can actually look up to
Im so sorry both of you had do go through that! (The SA) It’s absolutely disgusting that humans do shit like that
How is this ever ok? No matter your weight or sexuality. I feel so bad for these girls. I hate that people are victim blaming even. I’m sorry what you’ve gone through and what all have experienced. It shouldn’t of happened and it shouldn’t happen. I hate that these women thought they HAD to participate to keep a damn job. A JOB. 😢😢 it’s a damn job. 😢
I agree, her music and body positivity is one of the main things that helped me learn that my weight and body is okay. It is so disappointing to hear this, and most of me is saying “no way she’d do this.” But I saw her response for myself, and it was kind of in line with the way abusive men would respond. It’s pretty upsetting to have one of ur idols do shit like this…
Thank you for sharing your story, I know a lot of us can relate💖
Im glad that we arent ignoring this issue. The best way to solve or better a situation is to pull people up on their behaviour and actions
100%
Yep
For guys who would like to know if this is our common girls night... Never in my life I met a girl who wanted to have THAT kind of fun. Not even if we were totally wasted. The most crazy thing I was part of was trying sexy clothes while drunk (and even after that all of us promised to never talk about this. And that was the first and last time something like that happened :D ). All the other times we were playing games, dancing or singing karaoke.
Lizo obviously wanted to be inappropriate and didn't want to be the only one. So she pressured all the others (kind of like when alcoholics want to drink and don't want to be the only one drinking). Which is definitely selfish. I get that she was ashamed of being the only one going crazy, but you don't pressure your friends (not to mention your employees) to even play chess if they don't want to.
Thank you, I was a bit worried there..
Yeah I've never had a girl's night like that either
I have *ish* BUT everyone involved was completely on the same page and consenting. Like, that's the difference.
YES! for me girls night is more like baking brownies and watching a romcom.
This was so much more upsetting than other celebs getting cancelled or exposed because she preached body positivity and has been mercilessly bullied for her body since she broke out. I 100% believe the victims. It’s like when the victim of bullying becomes the bully when they are finally in a position of power.
YES!
Agreed 100%. This was a real slap in the face, never expected something like this from someone whose whole brand was the opposite. Her apology is really something else… I hope the victims get justice.
I believe them too
I’m sorry I’m kinda new to all of this what really is body positivity?
@@alyssahamilton7638 Basically, Body positivity is when people accept that all body types can be beautiful. That's the very basic concept. It's going against the idea that only skinny, curvy, or whatever body type is attractive.
Her "apology" isn't even an apology. She doesn't acknowledge the sexual harassment or weight shaming. She just says false allegations with no context or evidence of false accusations. Claims she's "open with her sexuality", which has no importance in the situation. Even so, your openness about your sexuality doesn't give you the power to make people touch nude body parts for a fun night out with employees. People who aren't even apart of the lawsuit have come out saying she's a horrible person. Its a 99.9% chance these are true.
She's rich. Why can't she just apologize, settle, and do better in the future? She's bring a fucking bully and narcissist
it was a statment not an apology
This hit me like a ton of bricks. Internalized hatred is real and it's so sad that she's pushing that on others in such disgusting ways. ESPECIALLY people she had power over in MULTIPLE ways. She shat all over her own message and hID IT. THAT HURTS. I hope these woman are given their dues. BUT GOD do i hate seeing all of the hatred for women and fat people from this.
Not the jOE BIDEN BIT
Same... Same :'(
I like how cooper has his opinions but says them respectfully. It’s also ironic that she’s fatphobic when good against her entire brand.
he says them respectfully to little children i guess. such a great video for little kids to listen too. he literally said 4 mins in that he doesnt want this video age restricted WHY THE F NOT? i liked this dudes content until i caught that sickening to look for views from children on such topics
@@petejones6827 Because some people who don't have UA-cam accounts watch his videos. You have to have an 18+ account to watch age restricted content. I'm 17 and I'd be blocked from it, does that make sense? His content has never been for kids, and he's said that.
@@petejones6827it’s not to be kid friendly… If UA-cam videos have too much “profanity” they get age restricted and you can’t really run ads (which generates revenue).
@@reverie8223 thats literally the point i made he is more concerned about lining his pockets than properly labeling his videos. its adult content dont label it in a way to get around the fact its adult content just to make more money. thats immoral
@@_JustJoe yes that makes 100% perfect sense YOU ARE NOT AN ADULT just because you are close doesnt mean he should make his videos available to 5 year old's just so you can see it and he can line his pockets. you dont even have morals yet you are too young to even understand the point of this conversation as you cant see past your own personal reasoning. you are blinded by self interest as is this dude
As someone who is overweight, and eats unhealthy (due to many different factors in my life), honestly hearing your words about how EVERYONE deserves love, no matter their weight, hearing that made me honestly feel so good, and so much better than anything Lizzo has ever said about being loved and overweight. Love your videos dude 💚
Might not mean much from a stranger on the internet, but you’re enough and your weight doesn’t define you
Absolutely! You are always deserving of love, no matter the weight ❤️
You can always go to the gym and go for walks though
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It’s true that being worthy of love shouldn’t be tied to how healthy you are, but at the same time I don’t think we as a society should act like it’s completely fine for someone to eat unhealthy and not take care of their health. Although I understand that sometimes people eat unhealthy because of mental health issues, socioeconomic factors, etc. but yeah, it’s a tricky situation, fatshaming / body-shaming is horrible but we should be careful not to accidentally normalise unhealthy behaviours.
Obviously fat shaming is bad but the sexual assault allegations are definitely the grossest of them all. Though I feel like the fat shaming aspect is being given more spot light since Lizzo herself had build her entire brand around body positivity.
Yeah I feel really bad for those security guards - how humiliating must have been? It doesn't sound like she touched anyone physically but created a horrible traumatising work environment. I'm so glad I'm not talented enough to go into the entertainment industry. The things people allow because they don't want to lose their career is heartbreaking
It surprised me that Lizzo would have done any of that stuff. Especially SA! And fat shaming is incredibly hypocritical. I feel like there must have been a time where she was self conscious of her weight too.
What’s crazy is people are using the interview of the dancer as “evidence that they’re lying” as if the normal person wouldn’t just lie abt how much they love their job and their boss in order to keep their job.
literally lmao like if they were really in an abusive environment they’re probably scared to say anything negative but also that’s how they make money ? and believe it or not people need money to survive so they’re going to protect their source of income ??
I love when cooper speaks at high ADHD velocities, super relatable and makes me more self aware of how insane I sound when I don't take a single breath between sentences
Breathing is second to saying allllllllllllllll your thoughts before your brain decides to get distracted by shiny and you lose what you were even saying-
As a women who is a 18/20 ACTIVELY LOSING WEIGHT this triggers me so much . Lizzo is insufferable to think she can hate on another women who is comfortable losing weight, gaining weight and think that’s ok . Also I have gone after work to a bar with my boss and it was the most awkward experience.
It doesn't "trigger" you it upsets you. Stop using words with real clinical meanings for this shit. I swear its the new "i'm so OCD lollll"
@silkandstones5964 why would someone go with their boss to a bar after work-- because the boss asked them to and there is a power-differential. Some people always say yes to a boss's requests because they worry if they don't say yes to requests and keep them happy, they might be fired. And people need their jobs to pay for everything they need to survive.
Some people have eating disorders or other body issues, maybe trauma growing up we don't know about,... where they might feel triggered by seeing other people get body shamed and judged 🤷🏽♀️ just because it doesn't trigger trauma in you doesn't mean it won't for other people.
@@tylociraptor8131as someone who has had an eating disorder, this is actually triggering. Many people misuse this word but it is actually correctly used in this scenario. No offense
@@nicetomeetyou701 no, it isn't. Not for her. If you experience an actual trigger based on your eating disorder, fine, but her being sad about her fave fatty being a POS isn't "triggering".
@@tylociraptor8131you have literally no right to decide what other people find triggering or not- nor how they express it online. Your words may be aimed at someone you find invalidating your experience, but your comment sends a message to others that to be open about their triggers is to be labelled as a liar.
By fat shaming Lizzo, people are doing the exact thing that they are mad at her for doing to her dancers. It honestly feels really insensitive to the whole situation.
It's great for them because they never cared about fat people. They made fun of them before, and now they get to make fun of her in a more acceptable light. The excuse that she did the same thing is one they don't even believe, 100%
Yes but while some people are mad at her, others are just laughing at how messed up the whole situation and genuinely do not care. People will act like that on that internet.
I mean I’m not mad at her for fat shaming her staff I’m mad at her for being a hypocrite and sexually assaulting people and putting people into uncomfortable sexual acts or sexual things with each other.
the fat woman is a sexual assaulter, who tf cares if someone is insensitive towards her weight atp
People like Lizzo seem to have a warped sense of sexual positivity. The number one rule about sex is consent. They think consent stops at people willingly sleeping with each other, but it's so much more than that. Additionally, there's a time and place for everything. No one should be forced or pressured into visiting places like strip clubs, having sex talk in the workplace, or other acts that are sexual in nature but not necessarily having sex. There's a way to be sex positive/open about your sexuality without being predatory or violating someone. Clearly, Lizzo and others like her don't understand boundaries and tend to blur the lines.
2:02 even in a scenario where it was her and her friends instead of her employees, it'd still be kinda fucked up to pressure them into doing it imo (like, if you jokingly encourage your friends to do something but if they make it clear they dont want to do it, you respect their boundaries, thats totally ok and harmless, but pressuring them to the point they feel like they have no choice (nearly bullying them into doing it), it's still fucked up), so the fact that she did that to her employees is so shocking and disgusting
Yeah, heard a bachelor party story from a friend where they were pressured into getting lap dances. Upsetting for everyone involved. Groom specifically said he didn't want any of that, and also had previously told his fiance that none of that would be going on. Too bad his friends are gross, I guess.
I think it's vile that Lizzo would do something like this. She's human and we've all messed up, of course, but this is a little more messed up than I would have thought. I'm really disappointed and disgusted.
I feel like I can imagine her pretending like they were her friends. Because with your friends a little bit of peer pressure can be fine (but only when you know your friends very well and respect no). But in an employer/employee relationship even a "I'm not sure" "Come on - try it" has so much more power and pressure. I wouldn't get drunk with employees at all because I don't think under influence I would be able to ensure I acted responsibly at all times
It really doesn't surprise me that someone soooo obsessed with "body positivity", could do body shaming.
At this point after seeing Adele being insulted for losing weight and people getting shamed for not liking their body, I only trust people who mind their own business on what people do with their body (body neutrality)
if people are acting that way, are they really body positive though? no they aren’t. they’re compensating for their insecurity and projecting it. as a body neutral person myself, the modern body positivity movement has lost its plot. everyone should be minding business about their body. if people are concerned abojt other peoples bodies like that, they’re not body positive. body positivity is about having self autonomy and can have their own opinions. body positivity isn’t necessarily bad. white necessary in social progress for disabled people and fat people and women of colour (the people it was made for originally). but modern day self centring and whataboutmeism. it’s selfish. not body positivity
I appreciate you pointing out that people are deserving of love and respect no matter their size, I think it's so harmful when people deflect from being called fat by saying 'I exercise daily!' or 'I eat extremely healthy!'. People deserve to be treated well because they are people, not because they meet some list of traits that you've deemed to be the 'correct' ways to be. The only true way to fight fatphobia is to be loving and respectful regardless of size.
That and it's a lie for most. You can't be 100 pounds overweight and healthy, and if you are, it won't last. It's only because you are young. She's encouraging thousands of (mostly) young women into a "lifestyle" that will end in their forties or fifties with diabetes and heart disease.
Right?? And also the way we say that someone just being fat and existing is “promoting an unhealthy lifestyle” but no one is hounding ‘fit’looking celebs if they go have a burger or fries, if anything they’re praised for being ‘real’ 😒😒
Like unless someone is a nutritionist or dietitian or health professional or some sort it’s not their responsibility to “promote” any sort of lifestyle. Just let people live, they aren’t less worthy of respect or privacy or peace because they don’t look a certain way
This comment broke my heart, it's so true like for example I'm overweight but not too much, and tbh, Idc, I'm happy for who I am, but there's ppl who might be like "you should probs go exercising!" Or "you should eat healthier" it's sad also for ppl who can't lose weight, it's like a never ending loop of some ppl just telling u disgusting stuff like that, like you ain't telling me what I should do be cause in your opinion it's better for me, we all do decisions for our own! Although ofc if you agree with the person, but if they just straight up tell u that constantly, we have a problem ❤🙏🥺
I think the thing with the "threatened to fire them if they didnt perform well enough" implied that if they got obviously tired when they weren't allowed to drink water or go to the bathroom for a 12-hr dance rehearsal would be counted as bad. She was being hyper-critical of their dancing and if they even got tired and sloppy bc of it then they'd get fired. (I'm not sure, but that's what i got out of it, especially since it was a smaller bullet under the caption about the 12-hr rehearsals
As someone whos always had body insecurities and has experienced sexual harassment, I can safely say I am disgusted. I was hoping she'd finally be a good plus size influence, but no.
Also, fatphobia can be so fucked on both ends of the spectrum. On one side, you have people who shame others because of their weight and seriously think they're lesser then them, simply because their body hold onto fat. And the other side, people who say doctors are liars about weight and about how weight related illnesses are not really based on weight-
IMO the only people who should be commenting on body weight are doctors yk? That’s how I feel about fatphobia lol
@@yeetyeet1655 it's not fat phobic for your doctor to tell you they suggest loosing weight for your health benefit
@@WhereAmIAndWhy yea exactly
The issue with doctors is the medical field is full of fat phobia; and instead of weeding it out, they ignore it and get offended when challenged. When doctors focus on weight alone as the (false) cause of issues, there’s a problem. It’s sort of similar to how a few decades ago, any woman who didn’t act how men thought they should, faced being committed for “hysteria”. Or how they used to sell being gay was a mental illness.
@@SaucyMuffins I understand that, some doctors use it as an excuse to ignore the actual problem, my mum has to do deal with it a lot rn. But, when doctors are saying weight gain can cause these things and that someone's breathing/heart problems are because of their weight, that's the problem
I feel very sorry for all the victims who were forced into praying when they weren’t comfortable with it. I’m a Christian and I have been a fan of you for a very long time and I believe that nobody should force their religion on others. I’m praying that everyone can heal from the abuse.❤
thank u for saying that honestly, it makes me feel so happy
As a “unhealthy fat ugly” person, the fatphobe conversation always needs to be talked about like this. Thank you for bringing it up like this and not letting Lizzo act like this in a way that is not a overly attacking people.
You don't have to ever apologize for a stutter! There is no judgement from us as your audience 💕 As someone who is in graduate school for speech-language pathology, we've talked about how one of the biggest things, when working with someone who stutters, is making sure they feel supported and positive about themselves. You are so wonderful and, while easier said than done, shouldn't ever have to feel bad for your stutter
Thank you for this comment! I have adhd and I also lost speech for a bit when I was in preschool due to inflamed tonsils that I had removed. I stutter from time to time whether it be from my brain moving too fast or my speech or both. I feel a little less dumb now 💕❤️
As someone who stutters and hates it whenever I do, thank you :)
I know I'm not cooper but wow you're so nice! I'll use this type of positivity towards my peers
I have stuttered since I was 10 years old, it's mild to severe. I learned early on that I was less than others because of my stuttering. kids bullied me relentlessly (though my stuttering wasn't the only reason they hated me, I also had undiagnosed autism and severe OCD) and constantly mocked me when I had to speak in class. Even though my one friend tried to tell them to stop and said that I can't help it, they didn't really care. But I'm still grateful for her for standing up for me. I still feel extremely embarrassed when I stutter, and in a situation with a person I do not know or know only a little, I try to answer with only one word replies. The fear that someone will mock me or laugh at me is still there, even at the age of 36. (Sorry for any possible Spelling errors, English isn't my mother language)
It makes alot of sense to be supportive and make the client feel safe as I know stress/anxiety can often make the stutter worse so if they feel more comfortable they won't stutter as much from the anxiety.
what lizzo has done is awful but the minute someone comments anything about her looks/weight their argument is immediately invalid.
Exactly
@LichenCoveredRock yeah no no no i was just making a general statement not in reference to anything he said🫶
Agreed
@@songbirdrosaI think the point they were trying to make was about people using the fact that Lizzo is a bad person as an excuse to fat shame her and make fun of her body. And about how just because someone might be a bad person, that doesn't give anyone an excuse to body shame them.
@@songbirdrosaI think they meant fatphobic comments not just pointing out the fact she’s the same weight as the people she shamed
Absolutely weird and creepy that she tried to force her dancers to do that. Does girl not understand that she’s their boss not their friend? I can’t believe people can just bounce back into media after they do stuff like that.
Lizzo has a lot of self hate issues. She’s obviously not happy with herself and projects that onto people that look like her. She has a “I don’t care” attitude in public/performance, but in videos she’s crying and talking about how it gets to her.
It always so sad when you really like a artist or celebrity and then shit like this comes out about then.
seriously
Sadder when someone says someone else “isn’t responsible” for dating a racist and “can’t be held responsible for a man’s actions” but then takes this stance on a black woman. I’m not defending Lizzo, but I am saying keep the same energy for all wrongdoings
Edit: I’m not saying let’s cancel Cooper, just that as a black woman, this is really disappointing to see, especially since I usually really like and agree with his takes on things.
Exactly
@@krmickey9764I was looking for someone to point this out better than I can. This is why people are so critical of Taylor Swift.
To explain the audition piece a little: In the dance world auditions are usually 2-6 hours and are high pressure experiences. The number of dancers who "make it" is very small, and you are reminded of that constantly as a dancer. You are forced to perform in that moment and your performance determines whether you are hired and get paid for a year, or you go back to working your barista job hustling for your next oppurtunity. Lizzo allegedly had this 12 hour audition (which is a grueling amount of time to be excercising at maximum physical output) after the dancers had already been hired, and allegedly created such a fear based culture that dancers were wetting their pants for fear of being "cut," We dont hear of other artists treating their backup dancers like this. The ways Lizzo has allegedly behaved are incredibly abusive and exploitative of her power in the situation.
9:48 this part made me cry, I was in the counclers office at school crying because of not only gender dysphoria but because i felt like I was a bit too chubby, so you saying all that made me feel extremely happy, I've always had issues with feeling as if I was deserving of love
You are deserving, never give up.
not a groomer, just a looser 🥺✨
not a fat shamer, just a flute player 🥺✨
Yeah the moralization of health is really irritating as a chronically ill person. The idea that bad health = bad person in the media just makes it hard for those of us that aren't healthy (by circumstance or not) to live.
I CARE. I CARE ABOUT THE TATTOO. I CARE. (also what Lizzo did is disgusting for doing that)
IK I SAW IT :(
i was looking for someone else who noticed. anyone know what the trident represents?? we see you cooper
27:52 he sounded like he was about to say "but hey that's just a theory.. a game theory"
FRR
It’s so disappointing considering I really enjoyed her music and the positivity she radiated. Turns out it was marketing. Should’ve known from how much she fixated on it.
Yeah agree this is what I get for liking singers I'm never doing that again
@@TeenageDirtbag8honestly. At this point the safest bet is to assume the worst 😭
@@Prettyp1999 tbh atp I just don't like the singers most of the time anymore I just try to listen to music
@@Prettyp1999 agree 100
I'm a person that open with their sexuality but i never forced ppl to do things they don't feel comfortable with
Right? Like she said "open" but she's actually "aggressive" and "predatory"
It’s so interesting to me how her main thing was body positivity and how she faces so much body shaming yet after all her struggles she did the same thing to the people who worked for her???
Pretty sure it's called a facade
This whole situation is just insane. I’m a bigger girl and it was nice to see someone who was a bigger size be successful. Until she had to do all these terrible things and give small minded people an excuse to hate on bigger people. I wasn’t even a fan of her really but I’m disappointed because she was supposed to help people understand that just because you are bigger doesn’t mean you are lazy. Also side note 12:46 this happens to me all the time and it is super frustrating so don’t worry about it. Just take the time you need.
I hate how people like lizzo can get away with this shit
fr its horrible
Seriously
It's absolutely gonna get brushed under the rug in about a month and that fills me with so much rage
Celebrities need to stop getting away with things they’re famous but not above the law
@@Sqooshyfroogthey have money that’s how they get away with it
This is so heartbreaking to hear. I am a plus sized person myself and I have always looked up to Lizzo for inspiration on how to not look at negative comments and see the positive side. My heart goes to the victims, and I'm so sorry for the trauma that she has put you through.
It’s all lies they made up
You looked up to her just because of her size she was very evidently quite narcissistic and delusional and yet you looked up to this person there are a walking talking caricature and proof of the clown world we live in and you looked up to this person... I hope from now on when you try to look up to someone you base it on their character their lifestyle a lot of important things not their level of celebrity and not their waist size because neither one of those things make you a good person and clearly all you see is what people look like so take a little bit deeper
@@eyetrollin710ah have some empathy. if someone gets a lot of insults for a certain trait and sees someone confident with that certain trait, of course they might feel good about that person and have blindspots about their flaws.
@@drybones75 Their username is literally I'm trolling. They don't really believe what they say. Chaos is all they desire.
@@VforVendettasi getcha, but i don’t really think they caused any chaos here
I can't believe i used to look up to her as both a musician and as a person, just goes to show how horrible people can be behind closed doors. Hypocritical too.
Exactly same I used to like her but not now
I had a family member fat-shame Lizzo a few years ago when that family member is roughly around the same weight. I stuck up for Lizzo and was literally pissed that they made a comment like that.
They were talking about Lizzo on the television. The family member basically was asking who she was and if she was like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B but they called her a fat pig while doing so.
I literally went on social media and vented about it because I was so pissed. I think I mentioned it on Twitter and @ tagged Lizzo. I didn't say exactly what they said. If I remember correctly I think I just said someone insulted you and it made me mad so I defended you. Don't let others insult you. Something to that effect. So if this is proven true, it is utterly disappointing.
“Wassup weirdo’s”
And that’s when I knew… *I was home*
It's about damn time someone talks about how toxic Lizzo is... I mean, truth hurts but 🤨🤨
We are not feeling good as hell about this
What sucks is that people are calling her all these disgusting names, and making fun of her body…..not realizing that so many people have her body, myself included. It feels like they hate ME and how I look. Probably cause they do :/ she’s may have done bad things, but judge her on THAT!
I don't know if that is you in your profile picture, but if it is, your really pretty!
@@JaxSunEdwards112 you’re a sweetheart ❤️
@@JaxSunEdwards112 and yes it is me 😂
It gets so much worse too. The ED stuff, whipping the security guard on stage after forcing his pants down, and how aggressive she got with the dancers. It seems a big thing was intimidation which is why the one dancer peed herself because she was so scared to leave to go to the bathroom. This whole thing shocked me because I really liked her.
24:26 why did that paragraph literally give off toxic gossip train vibes
If the fatphobia is true, I guarantee it's because she doesn't want anyone to be as fat or fatter than she is. She, as you said, built her platform on her size. It's the inverse of 'you can't be as skinny as me'.
I watched this video not knowing what to expect. I've struggled with an ed for almost 5 years and because I am smaller than most people think its ok to body shame people infront of me. Its so refreshing to hear someone articulate what im thinking. People are so deserving of love and being treated as humans besides their body weight or if they are healthy. Its one of my biggest problems with the body positive movement when they push the healthy narrative over the narrative that you are worthy of love healthy or not, big or small.
hope you get better. ed's are rlly hard to deal with
This is such a shame because I love her so much and the fact that all this is happening makes me wanna scream
Fr
for real bc to me she was truly an inspiration this is all just so upsetting
Ikr! I thought the message she was spreading was good, but obviously that’s not the case…
I'm to old to have been in her demographic, but my 15 year old loves/loved her, her music and her message. But I'm proud to see that the majority of her fans see the problems with her behavior and aren't just blindly supporting her in the face of what they're seeing. From the days of R Kelly in the 90's to now there's a real longing for accountability and a new power for fans to make it happen.
@@lisarodriguez6966 im also glad people are seeing what she'd doing, it should always be this way
I crack up everytime your lil "its about damn time" clip plays
After all these apology vids and situations with celebrities happening these days it makes me sick to my stomach knowing that there’s always a dark side to these people no matter who they are
I’m glad people are talking about this, with someone like Lizzo I was worried it would be swept under the rug and just ignored
24:20 cooper i must say you look so very babygirl in this update clip keep up the slay
I agree, it’s so much different when it’s boss/employee situation. I had this kind of boss once. He would just start talking about his sex life to the employees, casually asking personal uncomfortable questions as a grown man in his 30s while all of the employees were girls in their early 20s and younger
Haha cute my fake sister who abused her dog started losing his hair and having scabs all over probably from the stress and some bacterical infection. She was always sticking her fingers in his ears too. Called it his groan bone bcs he liked it. Or his body did like tickles. Your dog looks very dosile. Her cat was. She said it was bcs she carried him around in a hat as a baby to train him but now its clear acting meek and weak is a sign of abuse. By looking at the guy who I let touch me as a teenagers dog who I later learned he abused. Never would have if Id known. Its clear youre rap1ng your dog. The food is yellow bcs asians breed like them or...? Your fake fiance has the same name as my fake sister. You make videos for kids when youre like 30. Weird. My content is age restricted for a reason. You should end...and even he knows this sort of nonconsent among ppl is fucked. Could it be preformative for the video yeah he clearly doesnt respect anyone. Is he trying to put himself aside and teach kids consent? Hes talking about the banana in the vag for a reason. Hes a pedo.
I was a big fan of Lizzo (pun unintended) for almost 5 years bc she’s the ONLY fat vegan celebrity I’ve ever seen. I’ve been a vegan since 2016, and have had many people make comments/assumptions about my food consumption based on my weight/appearance. She made me unfollow her last year after saying how much she loved Chris Brown + didn’t apologize for it 😭 But with that in mind- I guess the allegations against Lizzo aren’t as surprising as we all initially thought. :(
Whooaaa what I didn’t even know about the Chris Brown thing. Wow.
I'm not sure if there have been any other controversies surrounding her but for some reason this doesn't surprise me as much as it should
Same I loved LIZZO her music made me happy and now this is happening 😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Thank you for addressing the way Lizzo's fat positivity has been focused on being healthy. I agree that fat people can be and often are healthy, and that it seems like Lizzo is getting a lot of exercise and eating healthy, but people shouldn't have to earn the right to be fat with health or perceived healthy activities. Just like weight doesn't determine your worth as a person, health doesn't either.
I think health should be taken out of the conversation entirely when it comes to fat phobia. People aren't horrible to fat people because of health - it's because they don't like the look of fat people. Making it about "is it healthy" is dangerous because no it's not. As a doctor I don't want to lie and say obesity can be healthy when I see it kill people frequently, I also don't want to feel like I'm promoting fat phobia because we've decided that bullying fat people is okay if they're not healthy. We don't bully smokers but smoking is never healthy
I mean if you're ten pounds over weight sure. But hundreds like people like Lizzo? If they seem healthy its only because they are young.
@@tylociraptor8131I think you’re missing the entire point of the conversation. If you determine someone’s “health” from their weight, you are not actually determining their health unless you’re their doctor. All you’re doing is perpetuating an excuse that has been used continuously by fatphobic people in attempt to gain a leg up on someone when it has no standing.
The point of this conversation is that the response of “I work out and eat healthy” is playing into this determination, when there shouldn’t be any comments on people’s weight because it’s no one else’s business. No one should be talking about it in the first place because her weight doesn’t affect anyone else. And the fact that people weaponize a person’s weight is incredibly inappropriate.
I love how even though you’re gossiping and telling us how bad of a person she is you still don’t just pull the fat card. I’ve seen so many people who claim to be body positive say the most terrible fatphobic things and that just really shows how someone is.💋
6:50 I think they meant that if the dancer's performance isn't perfect throughout the entirety of the 12 hours she'd fire them, which is absurd assuming she doesn't give them long enough breaks because the dancer would then be exhausted after a while and not be able to perform well
As a full figured woman I used to look up to her a little because of how she showed that you can be big and still be healthy, but finding out she is fat phobic herself makes me so sad because I truly loved how she helped me feel more confident about my self and my body
Take pride in loving yourself. Doesn't matter where it started.
But ditto. It seriously saddened me too.
Honestly, I think you made a great point- just because an action seems right to her does not in any way mean that is something everyone around her is automatically comfortable with, and for her to force that opinion on them without hearing anyone's disagreement is what separates a "friendly/casual" atmosphere from harassment, which this clearly is. Whatever way it's sliced, she ignored the fact that others were uncomfortable, and assumed consent instead of asking.
Thank you Cooper! As a fat person I feel that suddenly fat shaming someone as punishment is then hurting people that are also that size.
I feel similar to pronouns as a trans person, I've had people "revoke" the right to correct pronouns for people who have been shitty or done shitty things. It just makes me wonder if they misgender me when mad at me.
So yeah, people can be shitty but if we put them down in ways that aren't related to the shitty things they do then we may be hurting innocent people in the process.
boosting this!!
As a fellow trans person, I've tried to explain to a friend who was mad at someone trans who did a bad thing that you can't use their pronouns wrong on purpose. They decided to keep using he./him on her.
i think its bullshit tbh if your only comeback is to misgender someone or fatshame them u have to leverage , its so pathetic imo
I LOVE HOW ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS EVENTUALLY BECOME- LIKE MIX TRACKS OF THE VIDEO ITSELF BY THE END. ITS SO FUNNY- IT CATCHES ME OFF GAURD ALL THE TIME
Lizzo is the last person I’d expect to be doing this. And thanks for saying that Eastern European accents are nice! My mom is from Ukraine and she has an accent, and a lot of times those old Karen’s will be rude to her about it or treat her differently than other people.
to me the fat shaming is just her letting her jealousy show, like no way you’re telling a big person that’s smaller than you that she’s gaining too much weight?? literally hypocrisy at its finest. i’m not even surprised abt the sexual assault since she been over sexualizing anyone she’s ever laid eyes on since she started out.
It’s definitely projection and self hate.
It’s crazy how other’s will be like “how dare she fat shame them” and then go out of their way to fat shame her when they could shame her for all the bad things she’s done instead
18:56 *sobs in Greek myth nerd*
crumbles.
I know 😭
I am Greek man and I am crying 😭
16:08 i feel..nostalgic..wait
MARKIPLIER IS THAT U?😭
10:20 Unrelated to most of the video but thank you SO much for that point. We're at a point where it's so common to ridicule fat people (or really just anyone who isn't skinny) and call out their poor health, whether they are actually unhealthy or not, and then it's under the guise of "oh we're just concerned for your wellbeing, it's important to be healthy" like... that is so bizarre to me. Yes, it's obviously important to be healthy, but not everyone is. So what?? So what if someone doesn't eat healthy? So what if someone doesn't exercise? So what if someone is lazy? Do you know them personally? Are you their doctor? Are you personally being affected by a stranger online eating a cheeseburger instead of a salad? No? Then it's not your business. And if you really are that bothered by an unhealthy person existing, just don't interact with them? Their existence is not for you. Some people are just unhealthy, and it doesn't make them less deserving of love or respect. I never comment on someone's health unless it's someone I know irl and someone I care deeply about and am concerned for, and even then I rarely do it because health is a very personal thing.
And people can be unhealthy for different reasons. Some have physical illnesses that affect their ability to take care of themselves or their body's ability to take care of itself. Some have mental health issues and executive dysfunction that makes doing basic self care nearly impossible. Some people just don't care at all. And you know what? All of those people are worthy of love, and all of those people don't deserve to have their lack of health as their defining characteristic.
On a related note, I hate how diabetes has basically become a joke. Someone posts a video of themselves eating a lot of sweets and everyone says "dang I got diabetes just watching this" like??? Diabetes is a serious thing and it's not solely affected by diet. Ofc there's Type 1 and the cause for it is basically unknown, but even for Type 2, diet is only one of multiple factors. Genetics plays a HUGE role, and even then there are other reasons someone might develop it. AND, even if they did develop it because of a poor diet and lifestyle, it's still not something to make a joke out of. It's basically "haha you didn't take care of yourself properly so now you have a dangerous condition because it's what you deserve lmao." It just rubs me the wrong way.
Anyways, this was a great video and I really appreciate how you handle all the topics with care. I loved her, it's such a shame to hear all this.
i completely agree with your points! you make great statements! have an awesome day
He says that, and then plays the golf cart clip about 10 times says its funny
I love your point of view and this is exactly why body neutrality is the right way to go! People should just mind their own business about other people's bodies
Btw I want to say that as a skinny person, like many other people, I got fat shamed and bullied my whole life for "not being healthy or curvy enought" so really no one is safe from comments (I'm saying this not to minimize what fat people go through, but just to emphasize how the only way to go is that EVERYONE should mind their own business about people's bodies)
My mom has type 1 and growing up the diabetes joke always pissed me off bc I knew how serious both types were/are.
So glad you’re talking about this and taking the side of the victims. It was so disappointing to see how divided Lizzo fans were the other day when she’s obviously guilty. I don’t think people understand that these dancers speaking up is basically career suicide for them and it wouldn’t make sense at all for them to be “doing it for the money and attention”. Lizzo will probably win the lawsuit (although hopefully not the court of public opinion) and the dancers probably won’t find work because they’ll be branded as “difficult to work with”. I think they’re incredibly brave for speaking up and I really hope they win and get the justice they deserve.
I just found this channel. I did see some of his tiktoks over a year ago but didn't think much of it. this man makes my ADHD so happy he talks the right pace and walks that line of keeping my attention without over stimulating me. I will be binging for the next year thank you
My mom has a friend who worked at the Lizzo concert in Portland, and even though my mom and I had a lovely time, her friend said that Lizzo was a very rude and inconsiderate person to be working with at said concert. Of course, said friend was nicer about it as they were posting on social media, but they just said it was a very toxic environment. All of he stuff my mom’s friend brought up about the concert seemed to check out with what’s going on now(though there were no reports oh sexual harassment at that specific concert as far as I know). It’s crazy how someone so loved for her positivity could be so negative.
This is one reason i worry about my sister wanting to go into this profession. I dont want someone to take advantage of her and treat her badly. This industry's horrible if you cant stand up for yourself
You could stand with her, maybe have a private chat.
15:02 : How people in the hunger games are named
your the most kind hearted fella ever, it’s like we are having a conversation
i absolutely loved her. she was such a beacon of positivity and kindness and to discover it all was a facade is so disheartening and sick
I honestly don’t get how people can be so hypocritical, I also don’t understand how they don’t think they’ll get caught for stuff like this.
Thank you Cooper for doing a video about this and informing others about this