Gummygoo has quickly become my favorite character, not necessarily because of his character, but what he brought to the series. The npcs in Caine's adventures aren't just placeholder characters with no backstory and life, it comes with them, predetermined, until they're gaslit hard enough to where they have an existential crisis. They're living beings with fake memories and lives, that is horrifying.
Dang, I really wish Gummigoo became part of the official troupe. Really would look like a nice expansion of his and Pomni’s possible friendship. Then again, I don’t think he necessarily *died,* maybe just reset back to the Candy Canyon Kingdom.
Same thing with Mr. Puzzles from smg4 he like him, he gets killed. Gummigoo we start to love him he killed like seriously! What the hell is Luke and Kevin's with that?!
Gummigoo's family was actually part of his plot-line - it's the reason him and his buddies stole the syrup since his mom was sick and the syrup was going to save her (and other people from his town, iirc?). He discusses this with his buddies during his first introduction. So this doesn't make him any different than any other NPCs - they are all given motivations for their role, and the fact that he can't remember his mom's face is an indicator of this since she doesn't actually exist and was just a footnote to his NPC motivation.
Gummygoo quickly turned into a fan favorite. Not only bc of his character, but to what he brought. The NPCs aren’t just placeholders, they’re sentient beings with generated backstories, till they get gaslit enough to have an existential crisis. Honestly Gummygoo could be that npc that glitches up and remembers everything. Even though I think his code could reset, but tbh there’s a chance could’ve never known that Gummygoo knows he’s a npc and thought Pomni just likes him, he can’t read sentient minds so there could be a chance that happens or Gummygoo simply glitches and remembers everything.
Honestly I feel the same way. He has an interesting backstory and, being Australian, I kinda find his voice actor familiar. The number of times jn indie animation where a loveable character is killed off in such a sudden and heartbreaking way is surprisingly high. Whether he returns or not I cannot be entirely sure of, as I dont have any involvement in the show as of now, so yeah. I mean, the last time I felt a similar reaction while watching a yt animation was with a couple of the deaths in Wolf Song The Movie (not mentioning which ones because heavy spoilers) and although in there I can tell the deaths are permanent, here, I at least hope that he is brought back
exacly, i hope we will see him in the future :] his character grew on me outta many reasons tbh. For first his personality, and wanting the best for his loved ones. Aswell as the accent, i enjoy hearing Aussie accent heh. also love the choice of candy and colors he's made out of plus i like reptiles :33!!!
@@Chaot1xs gummy croco bois too good for this world. I will keep shouting at the top of the ceiling to bring him back. Just sad we won’t have any development for a while even fearful if his code gets reset and forgets literally everything.
What I think: Every adventure, all of the NPCs and the area are bought into existence the moment the adventure starts. This means that at the end of every adventure, since the adventure area no longer has a use, everything in the area gets deleted. So sadly, Caine deleted Gummigoo. However, Caine can still reuse Gummigoo, but since the Gummigoo who was friends with Pomni got deleted, any new version of him wouldn’t remember Pomni at all.
Pomni would be confused that Gummygoo didn't know it was her so that would make her a little upset but I think Pomni would hide that fact that she is upset that Gummygoo didn't know it was her
Here's the thing: Caine is using a brand new AI. AI today doesn't forget the same way as normal AI does. Scientific papers have shown that an AI that turns into a certain kind of way, could potentially stay that way unless completely wiped. I think that's kind of the reason jailbreaking AI works, because you are asking the AI to basically act the way the AI WOULD if it didn't have stringent gaurdrails. In the future Gummygoo may appear as a different character, but if Pomni can get it just right and trigger the right kind of prompt in Gummigoo, she could potentially start to get the Gummigoo she knew back.
But how would Caine have explained that to him if he ever decided to go and visit his family? Even if he hadn't fallen into the out-of-bounds area, he would have realized that something was up when he couldn't find his family anywhere.
@@OzzyNe0nhe's the experimental NPC Caine talked about, so he probably doesn't know what would've happened after the humans are done with their mission unless he was planning on just turning them off and saving them for another quest, since they said Caine likes to repurpose NPCs all the time
Well with a show like this, and all the dark humor, I'll. Expect there to be a price, like pomni abstracts to save the others, just like when v sacrificed fo get them going in episode 6 of murder drones
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It kind of sad though. I like to him and ponmi relationship and friendship. It was so cute. I wish that carie allowed Him to be an amazing digital circus. That would be really cool. I like his design. I might get his plushie 😊
your message sounds wrong did you mean this? It’s kind of sad though. I like his and pomnis friendship. It was so cute. I wish Caine allowed him to be a part of the amazing digital circus. That would be very cool. I like his design. I might get his plushie
My (loose) theory, is that Caine is unknowingly getting closer to creating actual proper life/AI, as he said at the start of the episode that the NPC’s had been improved, I think he’ll get closer to creating fully sentient, conscious beings, and there’s even a little bit of dialogue that could foreshadow this; Caine mentions that things might get to a point where he can’t tell humans from NPC’s, what if it gets to that point because there is no difference? Just a theory!
Well I think he said that cause he is an AI himself and doesen't want to have an existential crisis he probably got rid of gummygoo cause of that as well But to take what you said if mind that would probably freak him the fuck out even more
Given that Caine has theoretically confused some NPCs and humans in the past, if his reaction is anything to go by, it seems he’s already mastered creating fully sentient AI for the NPCs, it’s just that none of them has had to question their existence _as NPCs_ until Gummigoo fell into the debug room.
Yeah bc earlier in the ep kinger was talking about how long Raghatha was going to get intended into the circus so he will come back and Caine just exploded him back to the kingdom (tp)
@@LuznoLindoWell if Gummigoo actually isn't a normal npc, like how it is theorized in the video, then maybe Caine wasn't able to mess with his mind and therefor his memories
i think it’s more likely that he just has fake pre-programmed memories of having a family than actually having a family because he says, “my life, my *memories*, my friends, it’s all fake.” but great vid!! (also, how did u make this that fast)
I agree since NPC means "Non-Playable Character". In video games there are NPC's that you can interact with but are largely there to fill space. Then you have Specified NPC's who have their spacific role in the the story but you can't play them or control them in any sort of way yourself at any point of the game. Gummi being the one of the villains of this side world is programed with the belief he hand his friends have to steal the Syrup to help save is his mother and village. The fact the character himself points that a character model of his mother wasn't there means that his mother and his village didn't exactly exist in that game story. It was just an implanted part of his story to motivate him in the game rather then being evil for the sake of being evil. Kinda like how in "Wreck-It Ralph" it was brought up that Sergeant Calhoun was programed with most tragic story in the game, which was that she would do perimeter checks for Cy-Bugs. The one day day she didn't complete this task was the day of her wedding resulting in the death of her just wedded husband. That story never happened in reality, it was just a memory that he programed to have and modivate her character with in the game her character existed in. Gummi might return as there is a character model of him, so Caine would only need to add in a new copy of him into that game world. Ragatha also tried to reassure Pomni that Caine does reuse NPC characters at times. This might leave Gummi without any memory of Pomni and what he learned since it could be bad for NPC's to be aware they are NPC's. The Candy Kingdom on the other hand, I don't think they would forget Jax unleashing "The Fudge" on them. So they won't be as welcoming to the Circus mates next time we see them.
I think the question with Gummygoo may not be if he's alive or not at least physically, because he's an NPC, he was probably just put away alongside the other candy kingdom people where he belongs, but rather the question is when he comes back, will he still be the same Gummygoo Pomni got to know?, because if he's reusing him for another adventure, Caine will probably overwrite his memories and behaviors to better fit the other adventures, like the various characters you meet in both Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, where despite them being the same exact models as the last game, the MM folk are not the same people you met at OoT, and many had full 180 role reversals, like Koume and Kotake who were pure antagonists in OoT, but in MM they're friendly NPCs, so while physically he may come back on multiple occasions, the Gummygoo Pomni befriended may indeed be dead, or at least somewhere else if Caine decides to save his candy kingdom memories for later use instead of discarding them after replacing them to better fit the current quests
It’s obvious Gummigoo’s mother doesn’t exist beyond being the impetus for the gummy gang stealing the syrup. She’s just a piece of code in his current programming. Caine didn’t even bother giving Gummigoo actual memories of her. If Gummigoo is used again in another adventure it’s doubtful he will remember Pomni or anything about no-clipping under the map.
A huge point about a potential gummigoo's return a lot of people (but not everybody) doesn't think of the implication. Could Cain bring back Gummigoo? I mean c'mon, is that even a real question ? he created him from nothing, he can surely do it again, or even just copy/paste him if he didn't deleted all his work on the candy kingdom. BUT the one important detail that is the biggest unknow : Would it still be the gummigoo Pomni has known ? People mention we saw his 3D model...ok good, are his memories linked to his 3D model? The answer is : very unlikely. and if Caine purely deleted gummigoo, him as a person has ceased to be. Maybe Caine could go an extra step trying to recreate his mind, but he's probably unaware of all the existential dread this random NPC experienced ...nor he would probably care about doing all of that for the sake of Pomni. And about remaking him from his 3D model, Caine could either bring Gummigoo from his original blank state ... or he could as well recycle his 3D model and create a completly different personna, imagine if this time he's no longer "Gummigoo" but "Henry". Both options woud be soul crushing for Pomni to encounter. Best case scenario would be if Caine simply despawned him and all his files are still somewhere.
Pomni:i have a request for this next adventure Caine:uhhh tell me Pomni:Can we have Gummigoo as an ally for this adventure? Caine:mhhhhh that is a weird request but sure i don't see why not
Caine probably just sent Gummigoo back to the Candy Canyon Kingdom, it would make sense that he would because Ragatha said "I'm really sorry about that, Pomni. At least you tried. I know Caine sometimes likes to reuse NPC's." Keywords: "I know Caine sometimes likes to reuse NPC's." Caine also might of sent him to one of those empty rooms with the dummies, like you stated, Caine might use those rooms to store NPC's.
In video game and programming, there are terms called "parent" and "instance". Ling story short, the default 3D model is the source, or parent. And when this 3d model is put into a scene, it is like a creation from the parent, the source. It is then called an instance. Also, if the parent is modified, edited, the instance will herited the modification. But it is also possible to edit the instance, without affectibg the parent. Like multiple variant with different colors. So far, our Gummigoo we see is an instance. When Cain removes it from the circus, it is the instance, with its new reality knowledge. If Gummigoo does return, it will be a new one, with wiped memories. Meaning our Gummigoo is dead, unless Cain got hus memory script saved.
I am so mad at Caine now!!!😡😡 Gummigoo better come back!!! He really made me think about my past mental health problems somehow (I totally cried) and he redeemed Pomni for me (yeah, I used to hate her a little)
Maybe if Gummigoo gets reused in other adventures, his memory of Pomni will still exist deep down, like in a lot of movies, so maybe there is a chance he’ll be okay. (This is me just coping.)
Gummygoo is no different to the other NPC’s in that episode, he just had the most screen time out of all of them. This can be backed up by Caine literally saying that he made all the NPC’s “57 times more immersive”. It’s also probably why he turned Gummygoo into confetti. As an AI himself, having too many AIs in one location (especially ones with ‘big brains’) maybe the game will get more laggy than it already is and basically brake the game which would be bad for him and the main cast of characters… I imagine that as an equivalent to a Minecraft world-full of TNT which usually crashes the game. But we won’t know until Glitch shows us in the next episodes.
Since Gummigoo is an NPC in a video game, I believe that he will be in other episodes of the series as The Amazing Digital Circus is proven over and over to be a video game in the 90's, and it is already a ginormous achievement to be able to be able to contain multiple consciences (hope I spelled that right). Since Gummigoo is an NPC with AI comparable to - in my opinion - sentience, the hardware will have to reuse NPCs, as to avoid wasting space and memory.
I am hoping we have some sort of Matrix situation with Pomni - that she believes in herself and takes control of her destiny and the things going on around her. They all assume they are powerless, but i think that we will see Pomni, or one of the characters, do something that shows they have some ability to control the world around them. I believe that it is a battle of wills and that we will see this character again.
The challenge for me here is the "value" we assign to Gummigoo₁. What I mean here is, even if we reassemble him with his memories intact, should we consider him as the same Gummigoo₁ we met the first time? Or does he become Gummigoo₂? Remember: Gummigoo₁ is CODE, which makes this discussion even more complicated if we take into account how we do not fully understand yet how consciousness works in TADC. It is "COPY, PASTE" not "CUT, PASTE" as Jacob Geller puts it in his video about the non-existence of souls. I'm so excited to see if he ever returns, but for now I don't think Gummigoo₁ will ever return. Any future appearance will only be of Gummigoo₂, the duplicate.
Gummigoo was a programmed NPC; unless you actively erase it, it still very much exists. I think Cain sent Gummigoo back to the candy kingdom with no recollection of the previous adventure.
Gummigoo doesn’t remember his mother face because she wasn’t even modeled it was just a memory in gummigoo’s program ,so he isn’t a real person he’s just a npc
I definitely think that there will be another episode that takes place in the Candy Canyon Kingdom with Gummigoo because in the season one trailer we see a blue mannequin with the background of the candy canyon kingdom that we didn’t see in episode two
3:00 his sole purpose is to be an obstacle for the humans in the candy Canyon kingdom but that doesnt mean npcs just act without some sort of logic the game has a story the npcs have backstories They're stealing the princess's syrup to save his mom and some other people. Gummigoo's mom is his motive for stealing the syrup which is what sets the gane in motion but she doesnt have a model because the players never see her 9:40 Caine said in the episode he was experimenting with a new Ai
I have a feeling he’ll be back. The plushies in the end credits include a Gummygoo figure. I don’t think they’d tool up a production run of a one-shot character.
Bro is quite funny when the Qeen says "You must be the brave Knights that been sent".And they mentioned that Caine is God and when you to picture,Boooom! It so Hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He may be brought back by accident or his conciseness may have been downloaded to his model He could potentially use the trick pomni showed him to escape and try and trick Caine into believing he’s another human. That may be the best way to bring him back as Caine controls everything but he ends up being oblivious to the small details so it can work
Nice video, but I think you might forget we don't know if gummigoo will remember his old memories for that happen from the npcs Clones and himself or friends to pomni, just like Ragotha said the npcs might be back in the Later inventors. But who knows🧐
I have a theory what if when Jax opened the candy Canyon Kingdom gates, and the fudge monster got through and one of the later episodes they will go back to the candy Kingdom to fix everything and my idea for the name candy canyon cracks because everything is broken and killed, and that is why when someone asked goose Works is there gonna be any blood and Gore goose works, said do decaying bodies count?
With this Logic the rest of the cast can be NPCs too, with Caine controlling their mind into thinking that they are real people. That would be the reason why Caine Is so worried of the cast going into the void (because Is where their models are), and why the cast acts so naturally in the circus
Also another reason,it would be kind of weird if they made gummigoo go through all that and just die in the end,since for people in his situation it would go like this.Even if everything you thought of is shattered and nothing matters to you anymore you can still overcome it by admitting to it and adjusting it to something better,with the help along the way you’ll see that although your reality is flawed at least you can have something/someone to rely on although in the end would it have been all worth it,as the one time you loosen yourself up,feel what you had never felt before which is acceptance by the time you realize this you’re already gone and as everyone is watching you die they can do nothing but just blame themselves for your death. Obviously this can be translated in a better way but if they just leave him like this it would kind of put a bad message,although this is true it is kind of more of a harsh reality for some people and this would make people lose all hope to if their even a solution which I don’t think anyone would feel comfortable with the answer being no and their death will be making others suffer.
Plus since gummygoo is candy: even if he did get killed by Caine: his blood and guys would be gummy and not confetti and paper: he will return and is alive (Caine is secretly pure evil for this and only Pomni knows this
given Gummigoo's popularity, how could he NOT come back? my personal theory is that he wasn't killed, just transported back, and the gummigoo in the song was just a crude recreation by Caine using what little he knew from him (Australian = CRIKEY CRIKEY DOWN UNDA). If Gummigoo hasn't had his memory wiped during transport, he COULD explain what happened to Chad and Max, thus corrupting their minds as well. this could either lead to all three of them returning, or them becoming corrupted and potentially dying, throwing Gummigoo into an even worse spot. His return was even hinted at because, as Ragatha said, "Cain sometimes likes to reuse NPCs", so it's almost a guarantee he'll come back. Besides, he has merch.
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Guys i think caine did actually killed gummigo or he did not and i was really confused about gummigo and in episode 1 and episode 2 so in episode 1 pomni Ragatha and Jax went to see kaofmo and he Abstract 2 gummigo was glitch with pomni and everyone that's all bye
If gummy goo comes back there's a possibility he won't remember anything about pomni or the candy kingdom since there might be a script already for gummy goo so Caine will just use that instead of gummy goo's old script we saw so his memories might be gone the next time we see him :[
If you look closely at the end of the episode where there's a scene of Pomni falling into the void and suddenly there are three hands hold her hand preventing her from falling. And those hands are belongs to Zooble, Ragatha and Gangle (Couldn't see Jax's and Kinger's hand) for some reason..
Kinger's hand is there, just hard to spot since he doesn't have arms. Jax's isn't there because he's not attending the funeral, and Pomni is realizing that these people wouldn't just up and forget her if she abstracted so it would be the ones she's seeing participating in the remembrance that would be in her imagined fall-and-rescue.
Gummygoo doesn’t have a family. That’s the reason there were no models of characters in his town or his mom. It’s just a back story written for him but when he says he can’t remember her face it’s because he’s never even seen her it’s just the code written for him. The other town doesn’t exist.
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I find it really interesting because when we dream, its almost like we are NPCs ourselves. For example, try remembering if you've ever had a dream where lets say you were in a completely unrealistic place or situation. For me, I've had several of these dreams and additionally, sometimes these dreams fill my mind with completely fake information about my life that I think is real. It was so bad at one point that I legitimately thought I lived in a rich house with a rich family. Until I woke up of course.
Gummygoo has quickly become my favorite character, not necessarily because of his character, but what he brought to the series. The npcs in Caine's adventures aren't just placeholder characters with no backstory and life, it comes with them, predetermined, until they're gaslit hard enough to where they have an existential crisis. They're living beings with fake memories and lives, that is horrifying.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they meet him again, but Pomni is devastated since Caine remade him without his Memories.
You just said my brain's theory.
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Yeah, like the Majora's Mask NPCs that despite being the same models from the previous game, they're not the same people you met there
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Dang, I really wish Gummigoo became part of the official troupe. Really would look like a nice expansion of his and Pomni’s possible friendship.
Then again, I don’t think he necessarily *died,* maybe just reset back to the Candy Canyon Kingdom.
I thought that Candy Canyon Kingdom will be like right next to the circus on a floating island and will be attached to a thin wooden bridge
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Same thing with Mr. Puzzles from smg4 he like him, he gets killed. Gummigoo we start to love him he killed like seriously! What the hell is Luke and Kevin's with that?!
Didn’t the fudge monster destroy the whole kingdom and kill everyone in it because Jax left the gates open
That’s most likely if not canon
Gummigoo's family was actually part of his plot-line - it's the reason him and his buddies stole the syrup since his mom was sick and the syrup was going to save her (and other people from his town, iirc?). He discusses this with his buddies during his first introduction. So this doesn't make him any different than any other NPCs - they are all given motivations for their role, and the fact that he can't remember his mom's face is an indicator of this since she doesn't actually exist and was just a footnote to his NPC motivation.
Yeah I guess you are right
What I was thinking
Exactly! It was part of his programming
I don’t think he has a mom he Is programmed to steal the syrup for his “mom” just for the adventure
Gummygoo quickly turned into a fan favorite. Not only bc of his character, but to what he brought. The NPCs aren’t just placeholders, they’re sentient beings with generated backstories, till they get gaslit enough to have an existential crisis.
Honestly Gummygoo could be that npc that glitches up and remembers everything. Even though I think his code could reset, but tbh there’s a chance could’ve never known that Gummygoo knows he’s a npc and thought Pomni just likes him, he can’t read sentient minds so there could be a chance that happens or Gummygoo simply glitches and remembers everything.
Yes omg, Im really hoping he comes back like that it would be very interesting
Honestly I feel the same way. He has an interesting backstory and, being Australian, I kinda find his voice actor familiar. The number of times jn indie animation where a loveable character is killed off in such a sudden and heartbreaking way is surprisingly high. Whether he returns or not I cannot be entirely sure of, as I dont have any involvement in the show as of now, so yeah. I mean, the last time I felt a similar reaction while watching a yt animation was with a couple of the deaths in Wolf Song The Movie (not mentioning which ones because heavy spoilers) and although in there I can tell the deaths are permanent, here, I at least hope that he is brought back
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exacly, i hope we will see him in the future :] his character grew on me outta many reasons tbh. For first his personality, and wanting the best for his loved ones. Aswell as the accent, i enjoy hearing Aussie accent heh. also love the choice of candy and colors he's made out of plus i like reptiles :33!!!
@@Chaot1xs gummy croco bois too good for this world. I will keep shouting at the top of the ceiling to bring him back. Just sad we won’t have any development for a while even fearful if his code gets reset and forgets literally everything.
What I think:
Every adventure, all of the NPCs and the area are bought into existence the moment the adventure starts. This means that at the end of every adventure, since the adventure area no longer has a use, everything in the area gets deleted. So sadly, Caine deleted Gummigoo.
However, Caine can still reuse Gummigoo, but since the Gummigoo who was friends with Pomni got deleted, any new version of him wouldn’t remember Pomni at all.
Pomni would be confused that Gummygoo didn't know it was her so that would make her a little upset but I think Pomni would hide that fact that she is upset that Gummygoo didn't know it was her
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Here's the thing: Caine is using a brand new AI. AI today doesn't forget the same way as normal AI does. Scientific papers have shown that an AI that turns into a certain kind of way, could potentially stay that way unless completely wiped. I think that's kind of the reason jailbreaking AI works, because you are asking the AI to basically act the way the AI WOULD if it didn't have stringent gaurdrails. In the future Gummygoo may appear as a different character, but if Pomni can get it just right and trigger the right kind of prompt in Gummigoo, she could potentially start to get the Gummigoo she knew back.
@@tsunertoo9149 I think that would be a good plot point in the show for Pomni to get back Gummigoo back to the AI that she knew
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I think gummy goo was just programmed to have those memories of a family, so they don’t actually exist
But how would Caine have explained that to him if he ever decided to go and visit his family? Even if he hadn't fallen into the out-of-bounds area, he would have realized that something was up when he couldn't find his family anywhere.
That’s what I assumed
@@OzzyNe0nhe's the experimental NPC Caine talked about, so he probably doesn't know what would've happened after the humans are done with their mission unless he was planning on just turning them off and saving them for another quest, since they said Caine likes to repurpose NPCs all the time
Take care of pomni or else
I really believe by the time the series is over, Pommi gonna be an absolutely different character. She'll lead everyone out of the circus!
She gonna get Shibuya arc treatment
Well with a show like this, and all the dark humor, I'll. Expect there to be a price, like pomni abstracts to save the others, just like when v sacrificed fo get them going in episode 6 of murder drones
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@nolanmacpherson2346 you're right. Some, if not all, might get abstracted. We'll have to see.
It kind of sad though. I like to him and ponmi relationship and friendship. It was so cute. I wish that carie allowed
Him to be an amazing digital circus. That would be really cool. I like his design. I might get his plushie 😊
your message sounds wrong did you mean this?
It’s kind of sad though. I like his and pomnis friendship. It was so cute. I wish Caine allowed him to be a part of the amazing digital circus. That would be very cool. I like his design. I might get his plushie
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My (loose) theory, is that Caine is unknowingly getting closer to creating actual proper life/AI, as he said at the start of the episode that the NPC’s had been improved, I think he’ll get closer to creating fully sentient, conscious beings, and there’s even a little bit of dialogue that could foreshadow this; Caine mentions that things might get to a point where he can’t tell humans from NPC’s, what if it gets to that point because there is no difference? Just a theory!
Well I think he said that cause he is an AI himself and doesen't want to have an existential crisis he probably got rid of gummygoo cause of that as well
But to take what you said if mind that would probably freak him the fuck out even more
Given that Caine has theoretically confused some NPCs and humans in the past, if his reaction is anything to go by, it seems he’s already mastered creating fully sentient AI for the NPCs, it’s just that none of them has had to question their existence _as NPCs_ until Gummigoo fell into the debug room.
I am sure Gummigoo will come back! ...as character who won't recognise Pomni and traumatise her
Yeah bc earlier in the ep kinger was talking about how long Raghatha was going to get intended into the circus so he will come back and Caine just exploded him back to the kingdom (tp)
He was my favorite character in that episode
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His story made me cry 😢
He was my favorite one too. Sad he died :(
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He's my favorite too just because he's a reptile 🦎 love him 😍 so much 😍😍 😍😍😍
I don’t think Gummigoo died. I’m pretty sure Caine just transported him back to the Candy World is all.
I really wanted him to stick around for a while imagine how supportive he would be to pomni
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Wasn’t he supposed to be executed in the candy canyon kingtom?
Sure, but these NPCs basically have no memory, so he's just back to being a bandit, with no recollection of Pomni.
@@LuznoLindoWell if Gummigoo actually isn't a normal npc, like how it is theorized in the video, then maybe Caine wasn't able to mess with his mind and therefor his memories
i think it’s more likely that he just has fake pre-programmed memories of having a family than actually having a family because he says, “my life, my *memories*, my friends, it’s all fake.” but great vid!!
(also, how did u make this that fast)
I agree since NPC means "Non-Playable Character". In video games there are NPC's that you can interact with but are largely there to fill space. Then you have Specified NPC's who have their spacific role in the the story but you can't play them or control them in any sort of way yourself at any point of the game. Gummi being the one of the villains of this side world is programed with the belief he hand his friends have to steal the Syrup to help save is his mother and village. The fact the character himself points that a character model of his mother wasn't there means that his mother and his village didn't exactly exist in that game story. It was just an implanted part of his story to motivate him in the game rather then being evil for the sake of being evil.
Kinda like how in "Wreck-It Ralph" it was brought up that Sergeant Calhoun was programed with most tragic story in the game, which was that she would do perimeter checks for Cy-Bugs. The one day day she didn't complete this task was the day of her wedding resulting in the death of her just wedded husband. That story never happened in reality, it was just a memory that he programed to have and modivate her character with in the game her character existed in.
Gummi might return as there is a character model of him, so Caine would only need to add in a new copy of him into that game world. Ragatha also tried to reassure Pomni that Caine does reuse NPC characters at times. This might leave Gummi without any memory of Pomni and what he learned since it could be bad for NPC's to be aware they are NPC's. The Candy Kingdom on the other hand, I don't think they would forget Jax unleashing "The Fudge" on them. So they won't be as welcoming to the Circus mates next time we see them.
@@victoryangel29 Assuming Caine didn't just delete the entire Candy Kingdom after the quest was complete.
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I think the question with Gummygoo may not be if he's alive or not at least physically, because he's an NPC, he was probably just put away alongside the other candy kingdom people where he belongs, but rather the question is when he comes back, will he still be the same Gummygoo Pomni got to know?, because if he's reusing him for another adventure, Caine will probably overwrite his memories and behaviors to better fit the other adventures, like the various characters you meet in both Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, where despite them being the same exact models as the last game, the MM folk are not the same people you met at OoT, and many had full 180 role reversals, like Koume and Kotake who were pure antagonists in OoT, but in MM they're friendly NPCs, so while physically he may come back on multiple occasions, the Gummygoo Pomni befriended may indeed be dead, or at least somewhere else if Caine decides to save his candy kingdom memories for later use instead of discarding them after replacing them to better fit the current quests
According to Ragatha Caine sometimes reuses NPC’s so he may come back he just probably won’t remember what happened in the candy kingdom
It’s obvious Gummigoo’s mother doesn’t exist beyond being the impetus for the gummy gang stealing the syrup. She’s just a piece of code in his current programming. Caine didn’t even bother giving Gummigoo actual memories of her.
If Gummigoo is used again in another adventure it’s doubtful he will remember Pomni or anything about no-clipping under the map.
A huge point about a potential gummigoo's return a lot of people (but not everybody) doesn't think of the implication.
Could Cain bring back Gummigoo? I mean c'mon, is that even a real question ? he created him from nothing, he can surely do it again, or even just copy/paste him if he didn't deleted all his work on the candy kingdom.
BUT the one important detail that is the biggest unknow : Would it still be the gummigoo Pomni has known ?
People mention we saw his 3D model...ok good, are his memories linked to his 3D model? The answer is : very unlikely. and if Caine purely deleted gummigoo, him as a person has ceased to be. Maybe Caine could go an extra step trying to recreate his mind, but he's probably unaware of all the existential dread this random NPC experienced ...nor he would probably care about doing all of that for the sake of Pomni.
And about remaking him from his 3D model, Caine could either bring Gummigoo from his original blank state ... or he could as well recycle his 3D model and create a completly different personna, imagine if this time he's no longer "Gummigoo" but "Henry".
Both options woud be soul crushing for Pomni to encounter.
Best case scenario would be if Caine simply despawned him and all his files are still somewhere.
I really want Gummigoo to return in a future episode.
he returned as merch, prob he will return
Pomni:i have a request for this next adventure
Caine:uhhh tell me
Pomni:Can we have Gummigoo as an ally for this adventure?
Caine:mhhhhh that is a weird request but sure i don't see why not
I agree with you WE NEED GUMMIGOO BACK.
Why does no one talk about how Jax Doomed the whole kingdom💀💀
It doesn't matter what happens to the kingdom because they are all NPCs.
imagine being a mafia boss and having their name as Gummigoo
Caine probably just sent Gummigoo back to the Candy Canyon Kingdom, it would make sense that he would because Ragatha said "I'm really sorry about that, Pomni. At least you tried. I know Caine sometimes likes to reuse NPC's." Keywords: "I know Caine sometimes likes to reuse NPC's." Caine also might of sent him to one of those empty rooms with the dummies, like you stated, Caine might use those rooms to store NPC's.
Yes I hope it's like this
shout out for gummigoo. he really deserved to be pomni's friend. 😢
When Gummigoo comes back, I hope he keeps all his memories, and remembers Pomni.
i think Gummigoo spawned again in Candy Canyon kingdom
I really hope so
@waterthecoolistok...........
The first one to be here I’m proud of episode two and it’s sad to see kaufmos funeral❤
The moment they did a funeral for caufmo got me crying
@waterthecoolist what’s your content
@waterthecoolist your just Yapping
In video game and programming, there are terms called "parent" and "instance". Ling story short, the default 3D model is the source, or parent. And when this 3d model is put into a scene, it is like a creation from the parent, the source. It is then called an instance. Also, if the parent is modified, edited, the instance will herited the modification. But it is also possible to edit the instance, without affectibg the parent. Like multiple variant with different colors.
So far, our Gummigoo we see is an instance. When Cain removes it from the circus, it is the instance, with its new reality knowledge. If Gummigoo does return, it will be a new one, with wiped memories. Meaning our Gummigoo is dead, unless Cain got hus memory script saved.
I am so mad at Caine now!!!😡😡
Gummigoo better come back!!!
He really made me think about my past mental health problems somehow (I totally cried) and he redeemed Pomni for me (yeah, I used to hate her a little)
@ApurvThapa3333 my guy be strong these bots are nothing for their a.i their pathetic
Caine doesn’t want npcs in the circus poor gummy goo poor kaufmo got abstracted
Maybe if Gummigoo gets reused in other adventures, his memory of Pomni will still exist deep down, like in a lot of movies, so maybe there is a chance he’ll be okay.
(This is me just coping.)
Gummygoo is no different to the other NPC’s in that episode, he just had the most screen time out of all of them. This can be backed up by Caine literally saying that he made all the NPC’s “57 times more immersive”. It’s also probably why he turned Gummygoo into confetti. As an AI himself, having too many AIs in one location (especially ones with ‘big brains’) maybe the game will get more laggy than it already is and basically brake the game which would be bad for him and the main cast of characters…
I imagine that as an equivalent to a Minecraft world-full of TNT which usually crashes the game. But we won’t know until Glitch shows us in the next episodes.
caine just turned Gummigoo into a marketable plushie, he's even on the store now
Since Gummigoo is an NPC in a video game, I believe that he will be in other episodes of the series as The Amazing Digital Circus is proven over and over to be a video game in the 90's, and it is already a ginormous achievement to be able to be able to contain multiple consciences (hope I spelled that right). Since Gummigoo is an NPC with AI comparable to - in my opinion - sentience, the hardware will have to reuse NPCs, as to avoid wasting space and memory.
I thought he was back in the candy kingdom because a kingdom with a missing NPC does caine probaly not like.
I am hoping we have some sort of Matrix situation with Pomni - that she believes in herself and takes control of her destiny and the things going on around her. They all assume they are powerless, but i think that we will see Pomni, or one of the characters, do something that shows they have some ability to control the world around them. I believe that it is a battle of wills and that we will see this character again.
The challenge for me here is the "value" we assign to Gummigoo₁. What I mean here is, even if we reassemble him with his memories intact, should we consider him as the same Gummigoo₁ we met the first time? Or does he become Gummigoo₂? Remember: Gummigoo₁ is CODE, which makes this discussion even more complicated if we take into account how we do not fully understand yet how consciousness works in TADC. It is "COPY, PASTE" not "CUT, PASTE" as Jacob Geller puts it in his video about the non-existence of souls. I'm so excited to see if he ever returns, but for now I don't think Gummigoo₁ will ever return. Any future appearance will only be of Gummigoo₂, the duplicate.
I can already smell gummigoo x pomni ship💀
Gummygoo just got to get back to his place that's all I think that's what happened
Sorry for the incorrect spelling
I immediately threw my phone at Mach 10 when I saw Caine remove him
Gummigoo was a programmed NPC; unless you actively erase it, it still very much exists. I think Cain sent Gummigoo back to the candy kingdom with no recollection of the previous adventure.
I think Goomigo is xharacter of this episode. So there i think might be something like, he isn't npc or something else idk
Bro is going absolutely nowhere 💀
Man I was not expecting him to die, I thought he was going to actually become a main character.
In one episode that funny gummi guy became my favourite, I really want the plushie
Gangle's happy mask wouldn't stay in her face for even 5 minuites 😂😂😂😂
Gummigoo doesn’t remember his mother face because she wasn’t even modeled it was just a memory in gummigoo’s program ,so he isn’t a real person he’s just a npc
I definitely think that there will be another episode that takes place in the Candy Canyon Kingdom with Gummigoo because in the season one trailer we see a blue mannequin with the background of the candy canyon kingdom that we didn’t see in episode two
3:00 his sole purpose is to be an obstacle for the humans in the candy Canyon kingdom but that doesnt mean npcs just act without some sort of logic the game has a story the npcs have backstories
They're stealing the princess's syrup to save his mom and some other people. Gummigoo's mom is his motive for stealing the syrup which is what sets the gane in motion but she doesnt have a model because the players never see her
9:40 Caine said in the episode he was experimenting with a new Ai
I have a feeling he’ll be back. The plushies in the end credits include a Gummygoo figure. I don’t think they’d tool up a production run of a one-shot character.
First of all, I think actually Cain teleported him back to the candy Canyon Kingdom
Second of all?
All of that character building just to explode into ribbons and confetti
To be honest, gummigoo and pomni makes a better ship than Jax x Pomni. ❤
Facts
@waterthecoolistshut up
Jax X Pomni sound horrible really, especially after EP2
I know!
@@kakerodark1397 exactly
Who is here after the countdown livestream 👇🏻
That scene where he found that room gives me a uncomfortable yet nostalgic vibe.
I don't think he's actually dead his probably in prison of the candy Cannon kingdom
He was just teleported back to his place
I watched the video and was like “oh yay a new character in the circus!) Caine just explodes him 😮
bro stop being childish this is just a cool show with colorful characters,And your content is just fake exposures of innocent people
Bro is quite funny when the Qeen says "You must be the brave Knights that been sent".And they mentioned that Caine is God and when you to picture,Boooom! It so Hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I felt so bad for pomni gummigoo was her friend
Me just realizing Caine says "welcome back my little hardshelled hamburgers"
Im not sorry to Gummigoo, he very fast became my 2nd favourite
He may be brought back by accident or his conciseness may have been downloaded to his model
He could potentially use the trick pomni showed him to escape and try and trick Caine into believing he’s another human.
That may be the best way to bring him back as Caine controls everything but he ends up being oblivious to the small details so it can work
Nice video, but I think you might forget we don't know if gummigoo will remember his old memories for that happen from the npcs Clones and himself or friends to pomni, just like Ragotha said the npcs might be back in the Later inventors. But who knows🧐
🍉watermelon🍉 haha that was a good one
Jax is my favourite character
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Gumigoo says that he does not remember his mom's face
I have a theory what if when Jax opened the candy Canyon Kingdom gates, and the fudge monster got through and one of the later episodes they will go back to the candy Kingdom to fix everything and my idea for the name candy canyon cracks because everything is broken and killed, and that is why when someone asked goose Works is there gonna be any blood and Gore goose works, said do decaying bodies count?
What I think is that Gummigoo has no feelings, but that Caine made the NPC's very convincing.
With this Logic the rest of the cast can be NPCs too, with Caine controlling their mind into thinking that they are real people. That would be the reason why Caine Is so worried of the cast going into the void (because Is where their models are), and why the cast acts so naturally in the circus
@@Because-Im-Bored42 That would be... very interesting, haha!
Also another reason,it would be kind of weird if they made gummigoo go through all that and just die in the end,since for people in his situation it would go like this.Even if everything you thought of is shattered and nothing matters to you anymore you can still overcome it by admitting to it and adjusting it to something better,with the help along the way you’ll see that although your reality is flawed at least you can have something/someone to rely on although in the end would it have been all worth it,as the one time you loosen yourself up,feel what you had never felt before which is acceptance by the time you realize this you’re already gone and as everyone is watching you die they can do nothing but just blame themselves for your death.
Obviously this can be translated in a better way but if they just leave him like this it would kind of put a bad message,although this is true it is kind of more of a harsh reality for some people and this would make people lose all hope to if their even a solution which I don’t think anyone would feel comfortable with the answer being no and their death will be making others suffer.
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I really hope I get to see loolilalu again, I just luv her design to much
Plus since gummygoo is candy: even if he did get killed by Caine: his blood and guys would be gummy and not confetti and paper: he will return and is alive (Caine is secretly pure evil for this and only Pomni knows this
It was so heart warming that they gave Kaufman a funeral but I hate had for not even carrying
I feel bad for Gummygoo😟
Me too 😢
I got so sad when caine just snapped him😭 i actually got attatched to him and really liked him😭😭😭
When ragatha said that bringing gummigoo was a good idea, I think she knew what would happen, as she too once tried to bring an npc back.
given Gummigoo's popularity, how could he NOT come back?
my personal theory is that he wasn't killed, just transported back, and the gummigoo in the song was just a crude recreation by Caine using what little he knew from him (Australian = CRIKEY CRIKEY DOWN UNDA). If Gummigoo hasn't had his memory wiped during transport, he COULD explain what happened to Chad and Max, thus corrupting their minds as well. this could either lead to all three of them returning, or them becoming corrupted and potentially dying, throwing Gummigoo into an even worse spot.
His return was even hinted at because, as Ragatha said, "Cain sometimes likes to reuse NPCs", so it's almost a guarantee he'll come back. Besides, he has merch.
They already know cuz we just watched the stream lol it was sad how gummio died :(
AHHH AS SOOON AS I SAW THIS I CLICKED!! I watched half of your stream but I had to go to netball sadly but I watched the second episode AND ITS SO COOOL!! (First btw)
Same here
Maybe he restarted
I think my sister is circus theory
Guys i think caine did actually killed gummigo or he did not and i was really confused about gummigo and in episode 1 and episode 2 so in episode 1 pomni Ragatha and Jax went to see kaofmo and he
Abstract 2 gummigo was glitch with pomni and everyone that's all bye
Dang this was fast!
If gummy goo comes back there's a possibility he won't remember anything about pomni or the candy kingdom since there might be a script already for gummy goo so Caine will just use that instead of gummy goo's old script we saw so his memories might be gone the next time we see him :[
If you look closely at the end of the episode where there's a scene of Pomni falling into the void and suddenly there are three hands hold her hand preventing her from falling. And those hands are belongs to Zooble, Ragatha and Gangle (Couldn't see Jax's and Kinger's hand) for some reason..
Kinger's hand is there, just hard to spot since he doesn't have arms. Jax's isn't there because he's not attending the funeral, and Pomni is realizing that these people wouldn't just up and forget her if she abstracted so it would be the ones she's seeing participating in the remembrance that would be in her imagined fall-and-rescue.
@@taggedJC oh yeah I just spotted Kinger's hand after I played the video in slowmo. Thanks!
Poor Pomni 😢
3:32 the point is that he DOESN’T have a real family and has to cope with realizing it. He’s one of Cane’s experimental AI, more humanlike.
What if Gummygoo is actually a person stuck in the digital circus?
I'd say yes too because he has a model and npcs can't die and his model wasn't deleted but maybe his memories earnt the same
All NPCs in candy cane kingdom have emotions.
Gummigoo doesn't have a family, he was gaslit.
"only watching 5 billion times" made me giggle :>
It always let me off on how the still model of Gummigoo is more yellow, and the real Gummigoo is more green
My theory is that Caine sent him back to the Candy Canyon Kingdom and was then later eaten by Fudge Monster.
Gummygoo doesn’t have a family. That’s the reason there were no models of characters in his town or his mom. It’s just a back story written for him but when he says he can’t remember her face it’s because he’s never even seen her it’s just the code written for him. The other town doesn’t exist.
I believe he will make a comeback, since glitch is selling plushies of him
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I find it really interesting because when we dream, its almost like we are NPCs ourselves. For example, try remembering if you've ever had a dream where lets say you were in a completely unrealistic place or situation. For me, I've had several of these dreams and additionally, sometimes these dreams fill my mind with completely fake information about my life that I think is real. It was so bad at one point that I legitimately thought I lived in a rich house with a rich family. Until I woke up of course.