Thats sad. My Canon Zr100 died while I was recording my dad and brother moving things to a truck, died before I got to a new house were in right now. Now I lost the camera, and I want to find it to extract the tape, and just get those recordings.
I use that same method as well. It does require a FireWire port on the computer, which current models don't have. But for desktop towers like yours you can just get a PCI(e) FireWire card to install in the back; if you have a laptop with an ExpressCard slot you can get a FireWire expansion card for it. If you own a modern Apple Mac computer (not counting those super-thin smaller MacBooks made in 2015-2019), then you just need a FireWire-to-Thunderbolt adapter (and maybe a Thunderbolt 2-to-3 adapter to daisy-chain it to, depending on the Mac.)
Your method is similar to waymu's in that, he records VHS footage onto a Mini DV camcorder, then uses firewire to connect said camcorder to the computer.
cool demo...I take it this drawn out process is to exhibit the full range of capabilities, as I cant see the need to record something onto a mini cam which can put footage direct onto a mini-tape, and then onto a VHS which is all but a dead medium. I can see how its useful to get VHS footage onto a mini tape so then in turn upload to a PC...I think there more direct ways to go from VHS straight to PC isnt there ? Cable Hub's or adapters ?? still a great video thx
Interesting method! :D About deinterlacing, I remember from when I used to use Vegas that if you set the frame rate to 59.94fps and set the Deinterlacing method to "Interpolate fields", that should give you properly deinterlaced 60i to 60p footage. Yadif probably has better quality though.
Thank you so much for making this, it answered a big question I've had trouble finding an answer to for years. I've known how to transfer tapes to digital for awhile since I have an elgato capture card, but I've always wondered how to do the opposite and put edited video projects ON TO the tape, specifically MiniDV and Hi8 tapes. I think I have a MiniDV camcorder that has the Input/Output feature, so I'll test this method and see if it works. Thanks again, I'll let you know if it works out.
I'm testing it out right now and it actually works! I have my camcorder hooked up to my DVD player and it's recording flawlessly. Thank you so much for making this.
I know this is 4 years ago but what i did was record the camcorder to vhs then from vhs to a dvd burner unit ... not a pc burner but a stereo unit like a vcr but a dvd-r recorder , ... so i'd burn it to dvd then convert it from the dvd to my pc
I found a ION VCR 2 PC at a thrift store and did a test of it. I used Handbrake to deinterlace it like you did, and it works not bad but the colors are washed out compared to the original analog video and the quality isn't as good as your method. It's better than nothing though, the 60fps motion is there.
You might even want to try to use the camcorder as a pass through device without even having to record it onto the tape. Some firewire units could do that, basically only utilizing the da converter inside. Shit, should have waited till the end of the video lol
"Onto an 8mm videotape, like this one" *Proceeds to show Data8 tape* Also, MiniDV cameras of a simillar time period will probably work in the same way.
Great tutorial mate but S-Video is way better than RCA. RCA is considered rubbish now VHS isn’t used much anymore, digitalised version of all the artefacts of horrible VHS.
the only reason VHS looks so bad these days is because it was not made with HDTV or high-def computer monitors in mind. Just like with retro game consoles....modern equipment does not function the same as CRT tubes did....VHS in SP (Standard Play) looks perfectly fine on a CRT TV. Granted, VHS could not compete with Laserdisc, but as long as the source material is good and the VHS player is in good condition, it will still look very good. If VHS was as bad as people made it out to be, it would not have been the standard for so many years. There were plenty of other formats available in the time period that it was around, just none of them could match the price to performance of VHS.
themaritimegirl I had a camcorder that had s video and I had a tv tuner which is a analog tuner that had that input on a computer, I do it directly to a computer also to the tuner too. This method does work but it’s counterproductive
Fun fact: The RCA VR537 VCR died during the filming of this video. That's why the example recording came out so bad.
Well, thats not really fun...
The one you got recently and made a video on? That sucks! :'(
thats a shame
like someone else commented...I should have hung around to end of vid before asking the question,ha ha
Thats sad. My Canon Zr100 died while I was recording my dad and brother moving things to a truck, died before I got to a new house were in right now. Now I lost the camera, and I want to find it to extract the tape, and just get those recordings.
I use that same method as well. It does require a FireWire port on the computer, which current models don't have. But for desktop towers like yours you can just get a PCI(e) FireWire card to install in the back; if you have a laptop with an ExpressCard slot you can get a FireWire expansion card for it. If you own a modern Apple Mac computer (not counting those super-thin smaller MacBooks made in 2015-2019), then you just need a FireWire-to-Thunderbolt adapter (and maybe a Thunderbolt 2-to-3 adapter to daisy-chain it to, depending on the Mac.)
Your method is similar to waymu's in that, he records VHS footage onto a Mini DV camcorder, then uses firewire to connect said camcorder to the computer.
I don't really mind deinterlacing, but I would like to preserve the 60fps smooth look. Best for youtube.
cool demo...I take it this drawn out process is to exhibit the full range of capabilities, as I cant see the need to record something onto a mini cam which can put footage direct onto a mini-tape, and then onto a VHS which is all but a dead medium. I can see how its useful to get VHS footage onto a mini tape so then in turn upload to a PC...I think there more direct ways to go from VHS straight to PC isnt there ? Cable Hub's or adapters ?? still a great video thx
Interesting method! :D About deinterlacing, I remember from when I used to use Vegas that if you set the frame rate to 59.94fps and set the Deinterlacing method to "Interpolate fields", that should give you properly deinterlaced 60i to 60p footage. Yadif probably has better quality though.
Thank you so much for making this, it answered a big question I've had trouble finding an answer to for years. I've known how to transfer tapes to digital for awhile since I have an elgato capture card, but I've always wondered how to do the opposite and put edited video projects ON TO the tape, specifically MiniDV and Hi8 tapes. I think I have a MiniDV camcorder that has the Input/Output feature, so I'll test this method and see if it works. Thanks again, I'll let you know if it works out.
I'm testing it out right now and it actually works! I have my camcorder hooked up to my DVD player and it's recording flawlessly. Thank you so much for making this.
I know this is 4 years ago but what i did was record the camcorder to vhs then from vhs to a dvd burner unit ... not a pc burner but a stereo unit like a vcr but a dvd-r recorder , ... so i'd burn it to dvd then convert it from the dvd to my pc
do all analog tapes require de-interlacing ? or how do I know what footage needs to be de-interlaced
Yes, all analog videotape formats are interlaced, as are DVDs and most digital videotape formats.
Great, I bet not a lot of people knew that there existed camcorders that can record from an AV input.
I found a ION VCR 2 PC at a thrift store and did a test of it. I used Handbrake to deinterlace it like you did, and it works not bad but the colors are washed out compared to the original analog video and the quality isn't as good as your method. It's better than nothing though, the 60fps motion is there.
You might even want to try to use the camcorder as a pass through device without even having to record it onto the tape. Some firewire units could do that, basically only utilizing the da converter inside. Shit, should have waited till the end of the video lol
interesting..i tried USB and firewire and it turned out to be absolutely the same quality.
"Onto an 8mm videotape, like this one" *Proceeds to show Data8 tape*
Also, MiniDV cameras of a simillar time period will probably work in the same way.
Data8 tapes can be used in Video8 and Digital8 camcorders. And Hi8 camcorders, although it will record in Video8 fallback mode.
@@themaritimegirl Obviously, a camcorder won't be able to read any data off a Data8 tape. But you can just record over it with video.
Great tutorial mate but S-Video is way better than RCA. RCA is considered rubbish now VHS isn’t used much anymore, digitalised version of all the artefacts of horrible VHS.
the only reason VHS looks so bad these days is because it was not made with HDTV or high-def computer monitors in mind. Just like with retro game consoles....modern equipment does not function the same as CRT tubes did....VHS in SP (Standard Play) looks perfectly fine on a CRT TV. Granted, VHS could not compete with Laserdisc, but as long as the source material is good and the VHS player is in good condition, it will still look very good. If VHS was as bad as people made it out to be, it would not have been the standard for so many years. There were plenty of other formats available in the time period that it was around, just none of them could match the price to performance of VHS.
DvdXploitr I had really bad tapes and one time the machine ate the tape lol
You're not going to find S-Video on any but the most high-end VCRs.
themaritimegirl I had a camcorder that had s video and I had a tv tuner which is a analog tuner that had that input on a computer, I do it directly to a computer also to the tuner too. This method does work but it’s counterproductive