Does anyone else notice how her husband still had his ring on even though they were going through divorce? And she did not have her ring. Felt so bad for him, he wasn’t figured out, but he was a good guy.
@@jalitozif that's the case, then are women who take everything divorce also bad people? It was women who pushed alimony laws but don't want to pay when they are the spouse that makes more
Couldn't she "find herself" while remaining married? He was obviously in love with her and I'm sure he'd be okay with her traveling to Bali or Nepal or wherever...
She only admitted she was the problems years later after making him think he was the issue. A lot of women do this type of gaslighting in breakups, blame the man when in reality she just wants to be single again
there's multiple reasons for two people too not be right for each other anymore, if you find your self constantly reciting why you should stay maybe it's time to leave. don't stay in the ring if your the only one fighting
Or be a better judge of character before deciding to marry the person. But that would require self-responsibility and ownership over a stupid decision and the appraisal of why that stupid decision was made in the first place, something our culture largely seems adverse to.
Stupid movie. She betrayed him. You don't just divorce if you're unhappy or on a whim. You work things out. Next time be sure about forever after BEFORE you get married!
I appreciate that, no one ever cares about the guy. For most men, it's humiliating and losing your possessions, children and the love of your life leads a lot of men to suicide.
@@MariaA-x6g I didn't say "him" I clearly said "for most men." Western women initiate 80 - 90% of divorces. And sorry, but "therapy" doesn't heal the wound of having your children torn from your arms by the courts and your cheating ex-wife. This is why men are walking away from marriage or marrying asian women on mass
why? because the man gets destroyed lol? This is why I could never marry a "western" woman. I've seen to many of my friends/colleagues lose their children, home and loves of their lives to divorce
@@soulsurfer639 no, I love it because I felt the emotion behind it. I felt for both HIM & her & I think the acting was so good, the actors did an amazing job portraying the awful hurt that comes with separation & divorce.
The message: keep disposing of people until you find that fleeting Utopian idea/person who will, in actuality, never really meet that idea of fulfillment you're looking for either. It's rubbish, but for the "modern empowered woman" it was, of course, hailed as a great cinematic triumph.
'Cinematic triumph'? Lol, maybe in some women's book meetings or coffee clubs, on the whole it's panned as a trashy romcom. Reviewers like Kermode hated it and it has an IMDb score of less than 6/10. On that, we can be thankful.
It's sad, but when movies like this one empower women do ''not commit'' with anything in life, they will experience a harsh reality such as Liz. Moving on from one person to the next and never finding perfection isn't going to make you happy...
☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻THIS. Why am I not surprised there are men here criticizing a woman who realizes she’s not happy. Men don’t commit all the time. There shouldn’t be a double standard against women.
@@jowilkes4221 actually most people envy people that have stability, a stable life where everything is harmonious and lovely. Only when you don't find peace or serenity is where you go around jumping from one place to another, I envy people that are so stable, and everything they do goes to plan and accordingly. It's just wonderful. I've seen many that have jump from one person to another, proclaiming that they're happy doing it, but they don't even seem happy about life. Truth is everyone wants that peaceful life but when you don't get what you want, so you're going to move on finding what fits, that's why jumping around or moving around is in a way a sign of running from chaos, always running like water in rivers until they fine calm waters where they can settle down. Like river they flow until they find the ocean to settle down. Most people want that peaceful life, that's the most enviable life for everyone. To just have everything going so perfectly fine. The only reason one would move is because the heart haven't settled so they keep searching for it, searching for peace.
Some of us are free spirits and that is ok :) Eat, Pray, Love helped me to realise that I don't have to do the whole married with children thing. Each to their own.
Sometimes people just don’t have the spark. Her husband was hot, sweet, and loved her…she just shouldn’t have married him if the chemistry wasn’t there.
@@soulsurfer639 excuse me sir! Why you men put all your mistakes on women's back.. by the way even in tajakistan you won't find a woman who can handle your thoughts 👌
@@ferielbersos yes I can 😏 women there make a pledge before God to be one with their men and families... they don't just bail on them so they can sleep with random guys, they just work on their marriage. I love musIim women ❤️ siggh 😍
Ese tipo realmente me partió el alma. Wao!! ¿Por qué no haces ese viaje estando casada? Es una fase, ¿puedo esperar? Waoooooooooooooooo, realmente me hizo sentir triste.
That's exactly what it is. I have an "alpha" friend who has also been divorced (losing his possessions, children and home) while his ex sleeps with other alphas in his home. #MGTOW
Because portraying him as anything close to mentally healthy would have destroyed the contrived message of this film at the outset. By framing him as a tool, the women who watched this film and embraced its message could justify their approval of it by reminding themselves that, "at least her husband was a moron."
I have not watched the movie but my interpretation is that your spouse is not your dream. He NEEDED her which means he wasn’t whole. He loved her but couldn’t live without her. 2 halves can make a whole but when separated you’re left half empty. She didn’t want to be half empty anymore, and being whole means pouring and pouring into the people who are half empty. Just a thought 💭✨
No she wasnt selfish , worst, She was a psycho bitch that didnt know what she want in life, bipolar as I express this before and being bipolar is not a bad thing just that her was the worst kind that hurt ppl in the long run that she didnt deserve i bet if she had a violent husband kicking her ass everyday she be there till death do them apart. Is called self destruction. Damn I hated this movie and to think theres people really like that is crazy.
When you say "codependent" do you mean being in love with your wife and not wanting divorce because she wants to "find herself" aka sleep with strange men
@@soulsurfer639 That's her perogative, her choice. You have a choice to move on and move forward into a better situation. Let her go so she doesn't drag you down or drag out the inevitable. You can love a person all you want, they don't have to love you back and if they want to find themself away from you, if they want to sleep with all the men or women in the country...let them go. Choose better for yourself.
The truth is he married her in India and never married her in Germany - never gave her the respect and dignity of a wife - yet demanded that she fulfill the role 100% - and she tried.
Then why did you marry one? You didn't know they were insecure at all before in the relationship or you just met them for only a week before you married them? You just gotten to know them??🤷🏻♂ (also, don't get married with someone who's more 'free spirited' than you, cos they look exciting at first cos they're unpredictable but you'll gonna live with it forever if you marry them.)
@@vlad-igor Exactly, this is why men don't want to marry anymore. For men, divorce is humiliating. You lose your possessions, children and love of your life. It drives a lot of men to suicide. When I'm ready to get married it will be to a woman from a country with values. Instead of these western women.
@@vlad-igor Some men there outside are wolves in sheep's clothing. Mine showed his real self after his old lover divorced and they wanted to be together. Just then I found out that I was his second option from the start.
People/society keeps forcing and shoving one way of life at us but it's not the same for all. Not everybody wants to settle down and have kids, not everybody wants to run single and loose in the streets. Not every couple wants children OR to get married. Not every woman is meant to be a mother, or wife, or housewife, or career woman, or CEO of a company, etc. Everybody's journey is different. Sometimes we want something and change our mind along the journey. We need to respect other people's choices (whether we agree or not) and focus on our own.
Does anyone else notice how her husband still had his ring on even though they were going through divorce? And she did not have her ring. Felt so bad for him, he wasn’t figured out, but he was a good guy.
Well, not really a good guy. He took everything and left her without nothing. She started traveling with the book that she was going to write.
@@jalitoz Not only that, he wanted a share of royalty from her FUTURE books too!! He was looking for a PARENT not wife.
@@jalitozif that's the case, then are women who take everything divorce also bad people? It was women who pushed alimony laws but don't want to pay when they are the spouse that makes more
@@jalitozWomen do that all the time. Is it right to call them evil? Also she cheated on him something she confessed in another piece.
I did...yes it pulled at my heartstrings. Marriage is a serious commitment, but people should not live unhappy.
When I saw him cry I had to cry too. That was the face of a man who has a broken heart.
I agree. I couldn't help but feel sad for him. Divorce is the death of a marriage and this is scene is really sad.
That was heartbreaking and always heartbreaking to any woman to see a man cry because of a woman
Specials from other species ❤😂🎉
Billy Crudup stole the whole movie from under her feet in just this scene.
He cuts her down with real feelings everytime...
I think Liz admitted at some point that she was the problem because she did want to really find herself and that meant leaving her marriage. So sad.
Couldn't she "find herself" while remaining married? He was obviously in love with her and I'm sure he'd be okay with her traveling to Bali or Nepal or wherever...
@@soulsurfer639 No, she couldn't. She knew she and he were not great together while he kept hanging on...
She only admitted she was the problems years later after making him think he was the issue. A lot of women do this type of gaslighting in breakups, blame the man when in reality she just wants to be single again
@@soulsurfer639"find herself" usually just means have sex with other people
@@2EKgn16she couldn't cause she was a narcissist.
Billy Crudup did a great job in this scene.
there's multiple reasons for two people too not be right for each other anymore, if you find your self constantly reciting why you should stay maybe it's time to leave. don't stay in the ring if your the only one fighting
Or be a better judge of character before deciding to marry the person. But that would require self-responsibility and ownership over a stupid decision and the appraisal of why that stupid decision was made in the first place, something our culture largely seems adverse to.
Jon Munyon Spot on. So many don’t do this
@@jonmunyon128 well said
Tears, every time I see it.
"I believe with every molecule of my body ...."
Oh for god's sake. Nobody talks like that!!!
except your mom
Stupid movie. She betrayed him. You don't just divorce if you're unhappy or on a whim. You work things out. Next time be sure about forever after BEFORE you get married!
Agreed, better to be committed on our goals and development rather than being committed to a person who is not as dedicated as you are
This man was a good man many women want a good man and look at the results than she goes to another guy this lady is insane
It is so not fair for him.
I appreciate that, no one ever cares about the guy. For most men, it's humiliating and losing your possessions, children and the love of your life leads a lot of men to suicide.
@@soulsurfer639there is therapy for that. Also he didn't lose all his possessions. He got all her money.
@@MariaA-x6g I didn't say "him" I clearly said "for most men."
Western women initiate 80 - 90% of divorces. And sorry, but "therapy" doesn't heal the wound of having your children torn from your arms by the courts and your cheating ex-wife. This is why men are walking away from marriage or marrying asian women on mass
@@MariaA-x6g plus staying with a woman who's unhappy with you will eventually make u unhappy as well
I love this scene!!!
why? because the man gets destroyed lol? This is why I could never marry a "western" woman. I've seen to many of my friends/colleagues lose their children, home and loves of their lives to divorce
@@soulsurfer639 no, I love it because I felt the emotion behind it. I felt for both HIM & her & I think the acting was so good, the actors did an amazing job portraying the awful hurt that comes with separation & divorce.
@@SaryMag fair enough 👌
The message: keep disposing of people until you find that fleeting Utopian idea/person who will, in actuality, never really meet that idea of fulfillment you're looking for either. It's rubbish, but for the "modern empowered woman" it was, of course, hailed as a great cinematic triumph.
'Cinematic triumph'? Lol, maybe in some women's book meetings or coffee clubs, on the whole it's panned as a trashy romcom. Reviewers like Kermode hated it and it has an IMDb score of less than 6/10.
On that, we can be thankful.
You will never understand until you’ve been in a bad marriage
Not cinematic. It's logic
@@melissacoleman4532 agreed with you
This film's plot and the original novel are the epitome of the Modern American Woman.
It's sad, but when movies like this one empower women do ''not commit'' with anything in life, they will experience a harsh reality such as Liz. Moving on from one person to the next and never finding perfection isn't going to make you happy...
It might make some people happy. I live like that and people describe my life as being enviable.
Wow, what a way to ‘mansplain’ to women how they should live their life 🙄
☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻THIS. Why am I not surprised there are men here criticizing a woman who realizes she’s not happy. Men don’t commit all the time. There shouldn’t be a double standard against women.
@@jowilkes4221 actually most people envy people that have stability, a stable life where everything is harmonious and lovely. Only when you don't find peace or serenity is where you go around jumping from one place to another, I envy people that are so stable, and everything they do goes to plan and accordingly. It's just wonderful.
I've seen many that have jump from one person to another, proclaiming that they're happy doing it, but they don't even seem happy about life. Truth is everyone wants that peaceful life but when you don't get what you want, so you're going to move on finding what fits, that's why jumping around or moving around is in a way a sign of running from chaos, always running like water in rivers until they fine calm waters where they can settle down. Like river they flow until they find the ocean to settle down.
Most people want that peaceful life, that's the most enviable life for everyone. To just have everything going so perfectly fine.
The only reason one would move is because the heart haven't settled so they keep searching for it, searching for peace.
Some of us are free spirits and that is ok :) Eat, Pray, Love helped me to realise that I don't have to do the whole married with children thing. Each to their own.
Sometimes people just don’t have the spark. Her husband was hot, sweet, and loved her…she just shouldn’t have married him if the chemistry wasn’t there.
Or *gasp, worked on their marriage rather than her galivanting around to sleep with other guys.
I can Relate to this scene. I am heartbroken 💔💍 because of a Quiter.🤷🤷💆🙍😞🤠
What's an other man's wife got to do with you Shawn! Stay out of our business!
This lady is selfish
Sometimes love is not enough 💔
then don't waste men's time... women initiate over 80% of divorces in western countries.... gunna fly to Tajikistan to find a woman with values
@@soulsurfer639 excuse me sir! Why you men put all your mistakes on women's back.. by the way even in tajakistan you won't find a woman who can handle your thoughts 👌
@@ferielbersos yes I can 😏 women there make a pledge before God to be one with their men and families... they don't just bail on them so they can sleep with random guys, they just work on their marriage.
I love musIim women ❤️ siggh 😍
When ? ! Or is not love .
Ese tipo realmente me partió el alma. Wao!! ¿Por qué no haces ese viaje estando casada? Es una fase, ¿puedo esperar? Waoooooooooooooooo, realmente me hizo sentir triste.
Es triste y aqui en los estados unidos eso pase a muchos hombres. Por eso que yo nunca casaria con una mujer Americana
Amo esse filme já assisti várias vezes 😍😍😍
We don't want to be unhappiness anymore.this is now about you
Dr Manhattan.
A woman's emotional roller coaster:
"Stay seated and keep hands and feet inside the car throughout the ride." 🤢
What’s the song/melody playing during this scene 2:49
did you find the melody if so pls tell me too🥹
I found it with some research I can tell you if you still wanna know
Divorce scene
Her epiphany phase, she still wants fun with Alpha and not stay with her Beta #RedPill
That's exactly what it is. I have an "alpha" friend who has also been divorced (losing his possessions, children and home) while his ex sleeps with other alphas in his home.
#MGTOW
I am a falure I sucked at fracking it
why does her husband have to be a smug?
Because portraying him as anything close to mentally healthy would have destroyed the contrived message of this film at the outset. By framing him as a tool, the women who watched this film and embraced its message could justify their approval of it by reminding themselves that, "at least her husband was a moron."
Jon Munyon Lol spot on
@@jonmunyon128 he wasn't a moron. He is just different than her.
Why did she marry a smug then?? 🤷🏻♂ is this forced marriage? (till death do us part)
@@TheKatherina44 If he was "just different than her" why marry him. Why waste his time and break his heart?
2:16 ;)
He's way too clingy.
Uh, I think he loves his wife and would rather work on the marriage rather than just divorce (80% of American women initiate the divorces).
@@soulsurfer639that's because women carry the brunt of the workload or suffer domestic abuse the most
The way he waves goodbye to her w his wedding ring still on as the elevator door closes 🥺
"Have a dream, Steven! Great! Fine! Do that, just pick one!"
"Okay I pick one, I pick YOU!" 🥺😫😭
I would have absolutely stayed married!!
It's nice to know there are some decent women left. At least try to work on the marriage first
I have not watched the movie but my interpretation is that your spouse is not your dream. He NEEDED her which means he wasn’t whole. He loved her but couldn’t live without her. 2 halves can make a whole but when separated you’re left half empty. She didn’t want to be half empty anymore, and being whole means pouring and pouring into the people who are half empty. Just a thought 💭✨
@@froyaceleen Exactly. And if you don't love yourself by yourself, how can you love another person?
He needed to get a job
@@froyaceleencame here to say this, but good job. Relationships are additional, you have to have things for yourself, to be enough on your own.
Ima be honest, she was really selfish.
....that’s the point lol. it’s about being selfish. you live and love life for yourself and doing what’s best for you. that’s the point of this movie.
Imagine being caged, but not an hour, or not caged outside, caged in a room, with nothing, it felt that way. Read the book.
No she wasnt selfish , worst, She was a psycho bitch that didnt know what she want in life, bipolar as I express this before and being bipolar is not a bad thing just that her was the worst kind that hurt ppl in the long run that she didnt deserve i bet if she had a violent husband kicking her ass everyday she be there till death do them apart. Is called self destruction. Damn I hated this movie and to think theres people really like that is crazy.
No no no
If you read the book you would know
@@shoshanabodner8496 an adaptation should be able to stand on it's own merits. If it cant, then it's a flaw in the adaptation.
Codependency is hard to discover, but a very harmful trait to discover you embody.
I’m curious as to what made you use the word codependent
When you say "codependent" do you mean being in love with your wife and not wanting divorce because she wants to "find herself" aka sleep with strange men
@@soulsurfer639 That's her perogative, her choice. You have a choice to move on and move forward into a better situation. Let her go so she doesn't drag you down or drag out the inevitable. You can love a person all you want, they don't have to love you back and if they want to find themself away from you, if they want to sleep with all the men or women in the country...let them go. Choose better for yourself.
@@2EKgn16well said
Therapy talk… I can see it’s infecting your mind
I can't understand why this movie got brutal reviews. I liked this movie.
maybe your mom is from africa 😊
Later in the movie he gets with a lady with a baby!
I really love this scene
Brilliant acting!
The truth is he married her in India and never married her in Germany - never gave her the respect and dignity of a wife - yet demanded that she fulfill the role 100% - and she tried.
She can not complete you! I love quitters at "not meant to be" marriages.....WASTE of time!
2:15 to 2:26 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When you marry a very insecure man , divorce is the best option!
Freedoms, thanks son.
Yeah, insecure, and, more to the point, immature. Ain't got time for that!
Then why did you marry one? You didn't know they were insecure at all before in the relationship or you just met them for only a week before you married them? You just gotten to know them??🤷🏻♂
(also, don't get married with someone who's more 'free spirited' than you, cos they look exciting at first cos they're unpredictable but you'll gonna live with it forever if you marry them.)
@@vlad-igor Exactly, this is why men don't want to marry anymore. For men, divorce is humiliating. You lose your possessions, children and love of your life. It drives a lot of men to suicide. When I'm ready to get married it will be to a woman from a country with values. Instead of these western women.
@@vlad-igor Some men there outside are wolves in sheep's clothing. Mine showed his real self after his old lover divorced and they wanted to be together. Just then I found out that I was his second option from the start.
Tipical Americans
I get her 100% He seems clingy and needy
He just accepted. Like he has to be sorry for his real feelings 🫠
So when men are in love with the woman that is destroying/divorcing him = he's needy and clingy...
uuuughhhh never marry a western woman
People/society keeps forcing and shoving one way of life at us but it's not the same for all. Not everybody wants to settle down and have kids, not everybody wants to run single and loose in the streets. Not every couple wants children OR to get married. Not every woman is meant to be a mother, or wife, or housewife, or career woman, or CEO of a company, etc. Everybody's journey is different. Sometimes we want something and change our mind along the journey. We need to respect other people's choices (whether we agree or not) and focus on our own.
But she did it. And they have built a home. For an entire year. Why?! Poor guy. Some people just don't get commitments in life. Just ... Oportunities.
@@AudreyBedenedidn't you read? She changed her mind along the way. By the way divorce is nothing out of the ordinary
I need some advice in this right now.
I am feeling like there just has been no growth so I am feeling like it's been a sinking ship.