Except running up the court and out running a ref isn't a technical foul. And going to his bench isn't a technical either. Especially during a time out. That's what you during a time out. Go to the bench where your coach is.
The problem is, running up the court after a foul call is seen as showing up the refs. While I believe it's absurd that's considered such, that's just the way it is.
Most ridiculous call in basketball. You run down the floor so you don't say something foolish and get a technical. You can't be expected to agree with every call the ref makes and give him high fives and "atta boys". If you were playing hockey and you skated away from a bad call, you're probably the most levelled headed dude on the ice.
too many idiots are saying "he's just running down the floor" that fact is irrelevant, but what IS relevant is HOW he is doing it, yes, it is showing up the ref
Refs shouldn't have the right to t up players for "showing them up". That's bs. Only time they should throw a tech is unsportsmanlike conduct against the other team or delay of game. If anything let the other officials not ref'ing call a tech.
This is exactly why JVG is a colour commentator and does not have a coaching position. If he can't understand why that's not a technical foul, then there's no hope for him. There are many times Lebron reacts way worse than some players who get a technical foul for reacting less dramatically.
Big Spurs fan here. I'm no fan of Van Gundy, but I do agree with many of his arguments against some of the NBA's rules. Like here, LeBron may or may not have fouled Duncan, but how is running to the bench "showing up the ref"? It's not like LeBron is saying "Hey ref, watch me run all the way to my bench! I DEFY YOU!" No, he's doing it out of frustration alone. The NBA really needs to fix some of their asinine rules.
but the whole reason nba is soft is because of all these highly restrictive rules - don't look someone the "wrong" way, don't do anything on defence; of course nba is gonna become soft
How the hell is that showing off? The NBA is WAY too lenient on these refs... Hold them accountable for making themselves apart of every single game. Just ref every game and every player the same way...
I respect your opinion (and the fact that it’s been 5 years since you posted that), my take is that he gets paid to be an “announcer”, who by design calls the facts like they are. JVG on the other end is designated as a “commentator”, who by nature gives his take on things. Personally I really like Mike Breen and his announcing, and the fact that they disagree is actually what makes them work so good for so many years (12+ as long as I remember).
"There's better ways to exhibit your displeasure" How? You complain that's a tech. you run the other way that's a tech. Hell, you put your arms up in disbelief that's a tech. I don't like the refs lack of accountability. they can make bad calls all damn game but if a player or coach says something about it that's a tech or a fine.
I don't like how LeBron plays, but god damn, who cares about a guy being upset that he got called on something he didn't think was a foul. He wasn't even angry towards the ref or did anything disrespectful, he just ran to his bench.
Yeah, I'd call that a ticky-tacky (technical) foul. Refs need to get off their high horse and stop getting butt hurt over every little thing. And stop calling ticky-tacky fouls...
I agree with Jeff 100% LeBron did nothing wrong and I'm not that much of a LeBron James fan but he didn't do nothing wrong running away it's simply saying I'm not going to argue with the ref.
I stopped watching nba because the refs run the game, especially in the playoffs....Let them play and stop trying to meet how many fouls you can call!!
This is why they got rid of jvg from commentary. He was the only one who would call out the league and the refs. Cant have any criticism of the almighty nba anymore
What I like about JVG is that he just doesn’t give a fuck about the status quo and he’ll call it like it is... always speaks the truth and never holds back.
I like JvG, but sometimes he's ignorant. James is the only player I've seen to run down the court when he gets hit with a foul that was disagreeable. He's done it more than once, so u think he'd learn by now
When lebron was sipping on that bottle of water (which is like 675ml probs) it just reminds me that of how he is huge af compared to us average sized ppl
Most of the time I honestly hate the espn nba crew. I prefer the TNT crews and it’s not even close. JVG makes good points though and I think he should leave ESPN because he’s better than Breen, Mark Jackson etc. Doris Burke should also go cuz she’s great.
This is why players fuck with JVG. The other announcer really trying to make LeBron look bad for running to his own bench. The NBA will be a million times better when they let former players be refs instead of old insecure dudes who never were good enough to play.
It's not a rant it's the truth... That's why it doesn't exist anymore, because it was ridiculous from the beginning... "Fans aren't here to see the refs... "
The fast break analogy doesn't fit, but he's still right. It's better to run back to the bench in a moment of frustration than to stay on the court arguing with a ref.
It's necessary to see the entire picture. Maybe LeBron had already assaulted that or another ref with his worldly known tantrums in that or other games...
I love how the other commentator had nothing to say when JVG asked him how that is showing up the ref. "Oh come on that is... I mean that is.... Showing up the ref." I swear sometimes the commentators are more entertaining than the games, they just say stuff and hope nobody calls them on it. I like JVG, much better coach than his brother.
"There's other ways to exhibit your displeasure" Yeah, except most other ways are technicals too
Except running up the court and out running a ref isn't a technical foul. And going to his bench isn't a technical either. Especially during a time out. That's what you during a time out. Go to the bench where your coach is.
The problem is, running up the court after a foul call is seen as showing up the refs. While I believe it's absurd that's considered such, that's just the way it is.
The NBA is so soft these days bring back the 80s and 90s rules plz
Star Lord that's a rule from the 90s bro, you stupid
Joho Johos still NBA was better back then
"Yep that's a technical. Yeah I can see how disrespectful he's being!" Haha gotta love JVG
I was thinking of just shrugging to a bad call instead of running down the floor but Nate Robinson tried that and got T'd up
Most ridiculous call in basketball. You run down the floor so you don't say something foolish and get a technical. You can't be expected to agree with every call the ref makes and give him high fives and "atta boys". If you were playing hockey and you skated away from a bad call, you're probably the most levelled headed dude on the ice.
+PrezDBagsDrumCoverz Yelling "atta boy" is probably a technical too.
i laughed
PrezDBagsDrumCoverz this needs like 976 likes that hockey anology is right on the head
too many idiots are saying "he's just running down the floor" that fact is irrelevant, but what IS relevant is HOW he is doing it, yes, it is showing up the ref
Just don’t say something foolish then
Not much of a LeBron fan but that really shouldn't have been a technical foul
2:25 d-wade puts Marco bellineli on skates 🔥
Refs shouldn't have the right to t up players for "showing them up". That's bs. Only time they should throw a tech is unsportsmanlike conduct against the other team or delay of game. If anything let the other officials not ref'ing call a tech.
the last time breen ever voiced an opinion that wasnt neutral on air
Refs should all be fired and replaced by robots if we are so concerned not to hurt their feelings by players running...
The only thing he said that was incorrect was that this wasn’t a rant
“YOOO!! JEFF VAN GUNDY A FOOL” 🤣🤣 #iykyk
Rarely do i agree with Van Gundy but i do here. We aren't watching to see the officials and running or walking away is not a technical foul.
ahh poor Mike Breen
@FlutterBOSS bruh he is showing off his legs and his running ability. Them calves deserve a technical.
Jeez why tf does this video lag so much
lets all agree none of the techs these days are actually techs hahah except ron artest
This is exactly why JVG is a colour commentator and does not have a coaching position. If he can't understand why that's not a technical foul, then there's no hope for him. There are many times Lebron reacts way worse than some players who get a technical foul for reacting less dramatically.
Laggy ass video
“so every fastbreak there should be multiple technicals”
gotta love jeff van gundy
rarely, but yes
“Every fast break there should be multiple technicals”. JVG 😂
JVG telling it like it is
As he does. RARELY a cold take from him on commentary.
this has aged very very well ngl
“So you’d rather have him stand there and curse the guy out” LMAO
I subscribed
Big Spurs fan here. I'm no fan of Van Gundy, but I do agree with many of his arguments against some of the NBA's rules. Like here, LeBron may or may not have fouled Duncan, but how is running to the bench "showing up the ref"? It's not like LeBron is saying "Hey ref, watch me run all the way to my bench! I DEFY YOU!" No, he's doing it out of frustration alone.
The NBA really needs to fix some of their asinine rules.
Komatsuzaki lol. The refs just want the players to hold their heads down and take it.
Komatsuzaki you know who else is a big spurs fan? Ken Mauer
Evan Shang Haha, I've heard that before. You know who is a huge non-fan of the Spurs? You-Know-Who.
He should’ve raised his hand
Shoutout to Tim Duncan getting T'd on the bench
Van gundy speaks the truth here
calling it like it is
this is why the nba is becoming idiotic
being emotionally involved in the game is disrespectful?
no thats not it nba is soft now!
but the whole reason nba is soft is because of all these highly restrictive rules - don't look someone the "wrong" way, don't do anything on defence; of course nba is gonna become soft
holy fuck
Hrishi Telcontar You can thank the pacers pistons brawl for that
you think lebron throwing a hissy fit because he doesnt get every single call is disrespectful
How the hell is that showing off? The NBA is WAY too lenient on these refs... Hold them accountable for making themselves apart of every single game. Just ref every game and every player the same way...
tha's why i'm happy they don't call this a tech anymore
jrreogreugerugregreger Showing UP Dumbass. And Nobody has a problem when they give other players a tech.
every player and every game are different...
@@tearlesssumo3283 but the rules stay the same, sell unless a ref has a bad day
“WAY too lenient” is an understatement imo.
Mike Breen was getting hot lowkey... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1:14
Man Mike Breen is so textbook on everything.. No own opinions about anything just boring, JVG bring a little fire in to these broadcasts.
I respect your opinion (and the fact that it’s been 5 years since you posted that), my take is that he gets paid to be an “announcer”, who by design calls the facts like they are.
JVG on the other end is designated as a “commentator”, who by nature gives his take on things.
Personally I really like Mike Breen and his announcing, and the fact that they disagree is actually what makes them work so good for so many years (12+ as long as I remember).
@@arieltz23 lol
@@arieltz23 where did he say mike breen wasn't good though 🤔
Raytesian Douglas He said Mike’s boring, and I disagree on that end.
Still no disrespect though
@@arieltz23 fair enough, I think Mike is boring too but he is still the best at what he does.
1:43 "so everytime a team runs back in transition, there should be multiple technicals" 🤣
Jeff van Gundy is funny as fuck and he's right. How is running away from the ref a technical...
We need Jeff Van Gundy as the comissioner
abortion survivor_PR yes
Silver aint bad.
It iz ze youtube he means that sliver isn’t bad, but Jeff is better
I’ve always said this
@@kurtisfifty JVG is better.
"There's better ways to exhibit your displeasure"
How? You complain that's a tech. you run the other way that's a tech. Hell, you put your arms up in disbelief that's a tech.
I don't like the refs lack of accountability. they can make bad calls all damn game but if a player or coach says something about it that's a tech or a fine.
man, fuck you son If you laugh, it’s ejection
First Breen says it is showing them up like he agrees. Then he says I'm just telling you what the rule is. Sounds like backpeddling
Can we all just take a second to appreciate the fact that a Phoenix Suns Polish UA-cam fan page exists?
The van gundy brothers are the funniest commentators their rants are always classic
"Why does that matter? First of all, they're not here to see the refs" Truth nuke by JVG
I don't like how LeBron plays, but god damn, who cares about a guy being upset that he got called on something he didn't think was a foul. He wasn't even angry towards the ref or did anything disrespectful, he just ran to his bench.
I can only imagine the shit mike breen has to go through
It's so funny how they are the exact opposite but still make the perfect duo.
MrDarkKobe24 yup and I think mark Jackson adds to it. They’re the best announcer combination imo
It’s not shit if it’s true
Yeah, I'd call that a ticky-tacky (technical) foul. Refs need to get off their high horse and stop getting butt hurt over every little thing. And stop calling ticky-tacky fouls...
JvG needs a 6 pack, and his own podcast.
I agree with Jeff 100% LeBron did nothing wrong and I'm not that much of a LeBron James fan but he didn't do nothing wrong running away it's simply saying I'm not going to argue with the ref.
“Do you have a problem with refs showing up players?”
LMFAO
I stopped watching nba because the refs run the game, especially in the playoffs....Let them play and stop trying to meet how many fouls you can call!!
This is why they got rid of jvg from commentary. He was the only one who would call out the league and the refs. Cant have any criticism of the almighty nba anymore
JVG invited to the cookout that’s fo sho!!
What I like about JVG is that he just doesn’t give a fuck about the status quo and he’ll call it like it is... always speaks the truth and never holds back.
I can’t be the only one the gets annoyed by mike Bremen sometimes. Seems like he always just says what the league wants him to say
He does have the best call in American sports though!
BANG!!
@@papsphaks4408 my brother always tells me the same thing lol
The clip ended when Jeff asked the perfect question
"Do you have a problem with referees showing up players?"
"Um..."
LOL!
Now if the breeze from you running hits the refs it’s an ejection. The league has gotten suuuuper soft.
I like JvG, but sometimes he's ignorant. James is the only player I've seen to run down the court when he gets hit with a foul that was disagreeable. He's done it more than once, so u think he'd learn by now
This Miami team would destroy Golden State
Give that ref a fine lmao
When lebron was sipping on that bottle of water (which is like 675ml probs) it just reminds me that of how he is huge af compared to us average sized ppl
Breen thinks like a robot.
Talk like one too
BANG!!
@@papsphaks4408 Haha
Wish I could've heard how he answered that vice versa question Jeff asked say the end
First of all those 2 1/2 minutes of basketball were... something.
Anyone else on a JVG rant streak?
Larry David on commentary
I agree with Van Gundy.
Most of the time I honestly hate the espn nba crew. I prefer the TNT crews and it’s not even close. JVG makes good points though and I think he should leave ESPN because he’s better than Breen, Mark Jackson etc. Doris Burke should also go cuz she’s great.
It's like Curb your Enthusiasm lol
This is why players fuck with JVG. The other announcer really trying to make LeBron look bad for running to his own bench.
The NBA will be a million times better when they let former players be refs instead of old insecure dudes who never were good enough to play.
Same thing happened to a kid when I was at a tournament lol
It's not a rant it's the truth... That's why it doesn't exist anymore, because it was ridiculous from the beginning... "Fans aren't here to see the refs... "
2:35 nice lil old man hesi😂
Reaching for the ball?
That’s a paddlin’
Running up and down the court?
You best believe that’s a paddlin’
The fast break analogy doesn't fit, but he's still right. It's better to run back to the bench in a moment of frustration than to stay on the court arguing with a ref.
That was a technical! You can't have guys running all around the court every time they get called for a foul. 😳
Do you have a problem with refs showing up players??? He hit the nail on the head there.
Anyone see the Porzingis tech and remember this bullshit? We need justice for the nba too
Do you have a problem with refs showing off players???..... THATS ALL FOLKS!!
Running away is a HOSTILE ACT!!! JVG’s new favorite thing to hate on 👊😂
It's necessary to see the entire picture. Maybe LeBron had already assaulted that or another ref with his worldly known tantrums in that or other games...
so funny is Van Gundy brilliant, shuts that other guy right up ha.
I think this is maybe why JVG doesn't have a head coaching job lol, the man doesn't play politics, and that's why we love him
Yes running down the court after a foul is making a scene and the defense of it is something a middle schooler would make. but it's still a dumb rule.
In 2020+ if you display any emotion whatsoever then it’s a technical.
This reminds me of Michael Cole and JBL commentary back in the day. Just me?
We are going to miss his commentary if he gets a coaching job.
Mike breen, f that dude! BANG!
I remember this game and everyone was saying that the Spurs would never get a shot at redemption.
Kindness and Respect? Cos running away is so disrespectful
Mike breen do be on his goodie two shoes shit sometimes
I love the little breaks in debate to keep up with the play-by-play
Shame on the guy disagreeing w him shame on him
Whenever jvg embarrasses someone they just say that’s what it says in the rule book
It’s an obvious temper tantrum... that’s why Lebron will never be a 🐐
Jordan punched his teammate I guess that makes him not a goat either.
Van Gundy's wrong though...
Mike Breen lowkey doesn’t like LeBron
How the fuck is this a technical foul :s Mike breen just scared to speak the truth incase he loses his job
Sean Tottenham it's in the rule book
I love how the other commentator had nothing to say when JVG asked him how that is showing up the ref. "Oh come on that is... I mean that is.... Showing up the ref." I swear sometimes the commentators are more entertaining than the games, they just say stuff and hope nobody calls them on it. I like JVG, much better coach than his brother.
lmao exactly Jermaine J
One of those "Respect my Authoritah" moments....
0:47 Truer words have never been spoken
Mike Breen is a corporate shill lol
Welcome to the NBA James you getting them calls on you haha
Hey look it’s that homeless guy
JVG is 110% correct
Sheed Wallace got a tech for looking at a ref
Can we replace referee with the NY police?