Ok, As a Norwegian kindergarten teacher, i would like to point out that our kindergarten is slightly different than what the US would call a kindergarten. Parents of children age 1-5 is offered the option to opt into Kindergarten. in norway, you can essentialy look at kindergarten as an extention to childcare, aswell as educating the children on topics like society, religion, ethics, nature, interactions between themselves, and adults and so forth (on a age appropriate level of course). However, the last year (Age 5-6) is often refered to as the "preschool" year, this year. we spend much more time on educating the childen on things like how to act if your in sertain school like situation, being self-sufficient in situations like dressing/undressing, toilet visits, meal-prepping and so forth. we also keep an eye on their interest for things like writing/reading, and have meetings with their schools about how we thing the transition between kindergarten and school will be. and yes. alot of our 5-6 y/o are already half-fluent in english due to both media aswell as the fact that norway is rather multi-cultural at this point.
Tyler: Kindergarden is just daycare. They do play and learn but it is not schooling as such. Nor is it preparation for school. Preschool however is absolutely preparation for proper school. Now that we start "school" a year earlier than we used to, there has also been changes to the first year as well as the maturity level of the kids are much lower the first year or normal school as a result.
Yeah, we don't grade our kids. We might be vikings, but we're not barbaric. As for the high schools, there are different "lines" you can choose - these ARE the electives. Thus, you compete for which schools you want to go to with your grades from middle school.
@@double0899 Yeah, and those weren't really grades - it was simply a result of a single test. The Norwegian law prohibits primary schools from grading children - ever since 1999.
Hæ? Hva mener du? Såklart vi gir karakterer, men ikke før ungdomsskolen?! Vikings?🤣🤣🤣 1. å være viking var et yrke aka pirater. Men hvis du syns det er gildt å være morder, plyndrer, samt tyv og voldtektsmann…👀 Og vikingtiden endte med kristningen av Norge, slaget ved Stiklestad, og Harald Hårfagre samlet landet til et rike, og de mindre høvdingene/kongene flyktet landet, spesielt vestover til Island fra Sogndal.
@@HenoikIn my country, and in the countries where my grandsons currently attend school (🇨🇦🇰🇪🇦🇺🇬🇧), they don't grade children either. They grade their abilities in various subjects. It avoids little Sven's mother announcing to all and sundry that he's a budding Edvard Munch when he cannot tell red from green.
In Norway, after completing compulsory education (similar to high school in the U.S.), students can choose between two main pathways: **University-Preparatory Programs** These programs last three years and prepare students for higher education, such as university or college. They focus on academic subjects, and students can choose from: - Sports Studies - Art, Design, and Architecture - Music, Dance, and Drama - General Academic Studies (similar to liberal arts) - Media and Communication **Vocational Education Programs** These programs are more job-oriented and combine practical training with theoretical knowledge. After three to five years (including apprenticeships), students can enter the workforce. Examples of vocational programs include: - Construction and Building Technology - Electronics and Computer Technology - Hairdressing, Floral Design, and Interior Design - Healthcare and Childhood Development - IT and Media Production - Restaurant and Culinary Arts The main difference is that university-preparatory programs focus on academic studies for higher education, while vocational programs provide skills for specific careers. This system gives students flexibility to choose based on their interests and goals.
There is also the third option allowing you to start on vocational training, but shift over to university preparation on final year. This is very hard due to the condensed requirements this last year but it avoids all the drama and music classes that many practical people really hate, allowing these to build basic skills and knowledge on subjects they are more interested in. In the end, it may also benefit them in their final careers if they can use this base vocational knowledge combined with their university degree in a later job.
Let me correct this a bit. This is after completing middel school ( ungdomsskole) they are talking about, not High school ( Videregående skole). It's in High school you have theese programs and differences.
We have 10 years of compulsary schooling in Norway, called "Grunnskolen" ( Basic school ). These ten years are often divided into Barneskolen 1-7 grade ( Kids-school ) and Ungdomsskolen 8-10 grade ( Youth school ), or Elementary and middle school. There are no grading system within the barneskole. Yes, the kids have tests, but that's only to reflect on how they learn, and is only there for the teacher to see if some of the kids might need some extra help. The grades starts at middleschool. This is when it gets more serious. The grades are then reflected onto which highschool you might get into.
Another comment to clarify videregående / highschool In 10th grade (ungdomskule/ungdomskole) you will apply for a position in highschool (videregående). Every Norwegian has the right to go to videregående, but you might not get into the class you want. Videregående is split up into a bunch of different classes. Programming, healthcare, music, arts, sports etc. She just devided these into A, B and C without explaining them that well. Idk if she will explain better next episode. Depending on what path you choose, you will either go 2 or 3 years of videregående. I chose programming, which means I only went 2 years then started working as an apprentice for 2 years. I could also take an extra year in videregående and then take a higher education if I want. If your path requires 3 years, you can take a higher education right away. One of the paths you can choose is studiespesialiserende, which is basically normal school like you're used to for 3 more years then you can get a higher education after that.
3:43 we dont go an extra year in school, its because you start school when you’re 5-6 depending on if your birthday is before or after you start school.
Førskole (preschool) is not a thing in Norway. It hasn't been a thing for over 20years. Kindergarden is optional. From ca 6months until the year you turn 6. Barneskole (childrens school) - you attend the school closest to your home -we start lesrning English in 1.grade, at 6yo. 1.grade 6yo - 7.grade 12yo Ungdomskole (youth school) - you attend the school closest to your home 8.grade 13yo - 10.grade 15yo Videregåendeskole (advanced learning and tradeschool) -you have to apply, everyone has the right to a school place, but if your grades are bad you will have to take what you get. Start when you are 16yo depending on what line you choose, it is 3 or 4 years. After this it is university or if you have gone to tradeschool you start working.
The problem a lot of teens experience with choosing high-school is that at age 15, many of them have very little idea what they want to do for the rest of their life. And really an insane amount of choices to choose from
Yeah that is true, but at the same time it's not like the choice is set in stone, you can change your program if you want to later, although this generally entails you needing to start high school again.
As a teacher in a norwegian school, let me try to explain this in a easy way. I teach primarily elementary school children and in the years 1-4. Like she said in the video elementary school is usually devided into two groups even though they often share the building and playground. The children don`t get grades and don`t have many tests. Many elementary schools now have redused or completly stoped giving out homework as well. The teachers in elemantary school also teach multiple subjects, like I for instace teach; norwegian, english, social studies, science, art and music. In the years 5-7 the teacher are often more divided by subject. The one year in kindergarten she was talking about is just the last year befor they are to start school were they learn things like how to raise their hand, hold their pencil correctly and write their name. Simple stuff like that. In middle school (years 8-10) the teenagers now get both grades and more homework. They also now get to choose more subjects including a third language. Usually these languages are spanish, german and french, but you can also get more advanced english and some schools offer other languages as well such as mandarin chinese. In middle school the students are also now more responcible for their own learning and are expected to aply themself. Like she said in the video, your grades in middle school can determine if you get in to the high school of your choosing. Everyone gets into high school but the better grades you have the more options you have. When you start high school no matter what type of lane you chose (preperastion for higher education, vocational or a mix) you now have much more freedom to chose your subjects. Many students now also go to school out of their home town and either commute back and forth or move out. I myself went to a mixed lane high school where I had both university prepping courses like maths, sience, history, social studies and politics, english, german (the language I chose in middle school) and norwegian. I also had some more vocational courses I picked out like photography, design and art history. After high school you either go on to higher education if you chose that lane or you are finished with school and start working. You can of course still go to university if you chose the vocational lane, but you have to take a year of uni prepping classes.
You don't get grades, but you do get feedback. A grade is a simple constant, one B could be different from another person's B. The feedback is what tells you what you need to better on. Higher grades are also hard to get, unlike the US. Being a straight A-student would mean the top 1% of pupils in the country. The average is around C, depending on the subject. Thus grades mean a lot more here. That also removes the need for big tests that determine your future. It is instead mostly determined by how you did all throughout the year.
How "barneskole" is divided probably depends on the number of students and space available. Around here each elementary school (1-7) is at one school and nothing really changes. In rural areas kindergarten (age 1-5) can be located next to, or connected to, the elementary school (1st-7th grade), which can also have the middle school part (8th-10th grade). These schools are run by the municipality. In mine there are 10 elementary schools with two of them also having middle school. In the main town or admin center there is also a larger dedicated middle school where kids from the 8 elementary schools without middle school go to.
I am older (69) so we started school at age 7, no kindergartens in the countryside. We learnt English from age 10-11, then German from age 14 and then French from age 16!
Yeah, the barneskolen is true for my school its a red school, on the top left side of the school ground, then its the blue/grey school on the right side of the school ground, and the yellow school the "abandoned" building, its used as storage because i was in there once, but its faced at the front of the school ground and all the way at the back, and that "weird" school building infront of the grey/blue one. And yes we dont have grades and most of the kids are aggressive, mean, sassy, or ect i mean- it might just be my school and its crazy
Grades in Norway goes from 6-1. 6 = A 5 = B .. 1= F We also operate with plus/minus. Execpt you can’t get 6+ or A+, as a 6 usually means 95%-100% correct.
----- @jrgenb8107 ----- - If I have understood it correctly that is for up to the end of 'high school'... After which higher education even in Norway has opted for the use of the 'F through A'-scale as well nowadays. Back in the day higher education like university used the '6 through 1'-scale, where the grade of 6 was the lowest and the grade of 1 was the highest, in contrast to high school which use or at least used to use the '1 trough 6'-scale that you mentioned briefly. -----
From what I’ve gathered of the American education system (which might be completely wrong) Norwegian high school is like a mix of the American high school and college. Here high schoolers have a lot of freedom to choose their path for their future. We can either choose to go in the more practical career related direction in high school where you have to years of high school with some specific subjects from your direction (health direction have some health subjects etc) and then have two years of working as an apprentice in your chosen career and at the end you actually have an education. Like for example you could be a licensed carpenter at the end of the two years. Or you can choose the «normal» direction which prepares you for university. But within this line you can also choose the subjects you want, like electives. But for some university degrees it is required that you have taken some specific subjects in high school (usually the science subjects) to get in. If you’re studying to become a doctor in university you need to have taken physics and chemistry and the most complicated math in high school for example. So you have a lot more freedom and a lot more choices that can directly influence your future career already in high school. In the normal direction you can also go a specific line that doesn’t give you an education other than the high school diploma to get into university but is just for fun, like sports or science or theater. It is your grades from your chosen subjects along with the mandatory subjects that determine your final grades which you use to apply for university.
In my school at least, there was one floor for the students in 1-4th grade and on the second floor there was the students in 5-7th grade, so it isn’t exactly ‘divided’. Also, in Norway we don’t grade with A’s and B’s and C’s, we just get a number from 1-6 (1 being the worst and 6 being the best)
About feedback in school. They get feedback on what tp work on and how it is going, and there are meeting thru the year between teacher, the pupil and the parents for feedback and discussion. You know pretty well how the kids are doing.
Okay so we don’t have to schools for Barneskolen, 1 to 4 is on the bottom of the school and 5 to 7 is on the top. This is on my school though. And school is really stressful for 5 to 7, we have test and we prep for vidregåne. Not all schools have French. Hope this helps. I’m 11 just so you know so I know all about Barneskolen ❤
There are approximately 400 upper secondary schools in Norway. Pupils can choose one of the schools in their county. The schools specialize in different subjects. Construction, electrical, health, etc., etc., etc. Students choose three school options, and are guaranteed a place in one of these. The higher their grade, the greater their chance of getting their first wish
I live in Norway and that’s not how you say Barneskole and also all the other ones. Also in Norway we learn English too speek too other people in different countries and lands. =D And we have Viking blood
School system is very alike across the Nordics and to some extend northern Europe. So you are not just learning about Norwegian School but North European schools.
We don't have grades in elementary school, but we do evaluate A LOT. We tell the kids and the parents during conference each semester. If a kid has a specialized plan, we evaluate even more.
5:43 if you’re writing on like paper for schoolwork your teacher’ll obviously take the paper in and read it but they just won’t write like “A+” “C”. If it’s a test on paper, again they’ll take it in and read it and if it’s a test on the computer at my elementary school we had two English tests, two Norwegian tests and two math tests every year and we had a special website where I don’t know if it’s the community (town state community whatever) or the teachers that go and check the answers
The way We track our skills is we do one utdannings test witch means testing our skills and we have a test that doesn’t have a nam but it asks how things are at home and at school
They ara being assessed by given adise on progression and corrections in a dialogue or in writing. So they will be assessed, not just with a number or a letter. There is no extra year, but last year of kindergarted looks little different then before. They teach them some skilles and prepare them om more what school will be like.
1-4th grade = elementary/primary wtv u call it 5-7th grade = "introduction" to middle school 8-10th grade= middle school 1st-3rd grade VGS= high school (VGS= videregående skole/highschool) And to answer your question on 5:43 basically, we have tests throughout the schoolyear called kartlegger, basically translates to map. Which means, its a "map" (not actually a map but like a head over how the students are doing in the subject)
Languages in Norway (in school): Starting in 1st grade: Norwegian (Bokmål or Nynorsk basis, depending on where in the country you live) "Sidemål" - If you have Bokmål as base, you have to have classes in Nynorsk, and vice versa (usually this happens around 4th or 5th grade, or at least it did for me in the 90s) English - in parallel with Norwegian from day one of 1st grade, and continuously throughout all 13 years Starting in Middle school (our 8th grade): Foreign language, French or German is the most common, Spanish a bit less common - any other languages are less common still Starting in High School - depending on what course you choose, you either continue the Foreign language from Middle School, or - if your school doesn't have that language - you pick a new one So - any given High School graduate in Norway will have had at least 3 (4, if we include Sidemål) languages, a good chunk of us might have had 4 or more, where Norwegian and English are the ones we have for all 13 years.
5:18 we have private meetings with the teachers and parents every half year! Hope this answers that! It’s called «foreldremøte» in English parents meeting. Or just with the student «elevsamtale» in English students meeting.
A student is guaranteed to get into high school, but not their preferred choice. The guarantee spans 5 years to allow students to opt out even after a year or two of education and begin a new path. Students apply to several educational paths and/or schools. And the once with the highest grade average are prioritized and given an offer of admission. This is what on a year by year basis creates a threshold for entry. Since students not admitted to their first choice then compete to get admitted to their second choice... and so on. Students are also allowed to remain in a "waiting queue" for their first or/second choice to cover for last minute changes/drop outs.
Usually, at least from my experience in Elementary, you usually see how many answers you got right, example being; 27/30 and teacher writing a comment at end like "Good! :)"
To put things into perspective: Where I'm from (Stavanger), which has a population around 150 000, there are 10-15+ high schools to choose from within a 10-20 mile radius. Some of them focus on sports, others on music and/or media, science, others are mixed and some have courses more suited towards culinary studies, industrial careers, and so on. Which school you pick is up to you, but in order to have a better chance and more flexibility to choose the school you really want, doing well in middle school is essential. If you dont give a shit, you'll still get into high school, but your options to pick and choose are very limited as you compete against other students.
13:36 This is done likely to ensure a higher chance of succeeding in your classes, decreasing the chances that you end up either failing or having to retake years if you're too stubborn to dropout. 14:30 Sort of, you get a list of high schools and available line of study based on your grades in middle school, you might get to choose from three different high schools, or it could be two, or more than three, though I'm not familiar enough in this to know for sure. When I went to high school, I was given the choice between three different high schools with a few different lines of study, this was back in 2007 I believe, so how they do things today might differ from how they did it back in 2007. 16:10 Pretty much, you shouldn't have issues getting jobs after finishing high school. Each direction of study caters to different lines of work, so you would do your research before starting high school into which directions fit the best according to what you wish to do for work when you are finished. Some directions offer extended education, where you continue your high school education through 4th or even 5th grades instead of ending at the 3rd grade. You also get a chance at working at real jobs to earn work experience before you finish your high school education - though I never did this, so someone else would have to provide better information.
When you come to apply to high school, we have two main schools, but the schools have different work-oriented classes. If you want to become a carpenter or a car mechanic, many people apply to what we call "Vocational school", and if you want to become a lawyer or something in accounting, you apply to "Gymnasium". To get into these schools, you need points, and to get into gymnasium you need more points than for "Vocational school".
8:46 it isn’t because of the extra year it just depends on you birthday and i would like to say that the extra year is still IN kindergarden but it’s more of a focus on basic stuff like spelling, and basic maths. and in middle school (idk if this is my my school) you get like half year grades, so for example you start the year after summer break and then in december you get like a summarized grade in your different classes, ok thanks bye 🙃
Once you go to videregående skole, (translates to advanced or intermediate school) the two main options are between university qualitfication or more of a profession qualification. So you can choose to train to become a mechanic, an electrician, a hair dresser, a lab technician, a it administrator, an assistant health care worker, child care worker and so on. Thats usually two years of school followed by a two year apprenticeship with reduced pay at a ordinary company, like a plumbing company or a hair dresser. After two years there is a practical exam, and if you pass you are given a "fagbrev", or a certificate that states that you are certified to work in that field. Some professions require such a certification, such as working as an electrician. University prep is just plain three years of school. Oh, and when you have your fagbrev, you can do one more year of school, sort of a intensified university prep year and be qualified for uni as well. The two year speciality training programs do have ordinary subjects like Norwegian, math and English as well as the specialized subjects in order to facilitate taking uni prep later. English is often oriented towards your profession, though. So for instance, if you train to be an electrician, your English classes will focus more on terminology related to that line of work than the "ordinary" English taught in uni prep.
In north norway and maby also other rural areas in the south of norway, it is also very common that you will have to move to a different place to go to highschool. For example 15 year olds from my home town, typically move 450kilomiters away for their highschool choices. Its normal for 15 year olds to live alone without parents for these 2-3 years while studying. There are some student housing options but they are ecpected to cook, clean and manage their education on their own from that point.
Remember one important thing here. When you live in a small country its easier to change things faster. For example the school system. In addition we look to Sweden and Denmark. We also visit schools in Sweden and Denmark and look for better solutions. I guess they do the same with us. So, there you have it.. Smaller countries are more flexible because its simpler to change faster..
5:18 we do have tests from 3-7 grade just to see how much the kids have learned trough out of the year but it doesn’t go on any record when applying for jobs or college
I just have to clear something up. That extra year she's talking about between kindergarten and elementary school is still in kindergarten and not a part of the 13 years where we attend school. What she's referring to is more that it's the last year in kindergarten before you start school, so the focus will be more on maybe writing and reading a tiny bit, but basically nothing.
Its really similar for sweden. We have kindergarten up until we turn 5, when you start going to school during the year before 1st grade (förskolan/preschool), then you either go to the same school from 0-9th grade, or you go to the same from 0-6th grade and then change schools for year 7-9. This depends on if your first school has the grades 7-9 or not. Then we get to pick our high-school (gymnasie) where you choose if you to go to a "arbetsförbetedande" (work preparing) or "högskoleförberedande" (college preparing) program. Different schools have different programs, some have both kinds, but certain schools have different focuses. Under those 2 categories you have different programs depending on what you wanna study, and for the college preparing ones (the kind I went to) you further have to choose a direction in your second year (high-school is 3 years) that depends on your program. So if you're for exampel in the nature science program, you get to choose between nature-nature or the nature-social science programs. The schools of course choose both based on grades and sometimes where you live. And its good to select multiple options. As for language. My school started teaching english in 1st grade, but I believe its only mandatory to start in 3rd, and you have to keep taking it, if i remember correctly, up until 2nd grade. As for other languages, you can start studying your native language directly if they have a teacher, the same goes for sign language if you need it, and other languages usually start in 7th grade, however we started in the 6th. You get to choose yourself which language you want to learn based on the options that are presented to you, and you study it up to the 9th grade. Whether or not you continue to study it during high-school depends on which program you're in, and if you study it for 1, 2, or 3 years can also vary depending on school. Swedish 1, math 1, and english 5 are the only courses everyone no matter which program have to get a passing grade in in order to graduate (although you need a certain amount of points, not every course is completely necessary, but only passing 3 is far from enough). After high-school you can either start working, or go to college, and you have a great variety of schools and programs to go to. We also didn't get graded until we started 7th grade
Actually we they grade well I live in nannsestand somewhere in norway and we grade like we put a big r in the homework cuz that means Rikting. Rikting means correct and there's a school in norway in nannestad named preståsen skole there they grade. So if u google it u will see some kids swinging in a rope swing and there smiling and they are probably happy so thats all for today I will comment tomorrow so if u want to learn more LIKE AND COMMENT BYEEE❤
I have always thought this is a wrong way to explain it. When using the school system in USA and comparing that to the the Norwegian, I think it makes more sense to say that barneskole = elementairy and middle school, then ungdomsskole = highschool(due to the similarities), Videregående skole = college, høgskole/universitet =higher eduucation/university
----- @oxyaction ----- - Alternatively, one could also say... F.e. First '1 trough 10' = 'Primary School' Then '11 through 13' = 'Secondary School' And last, but not least, 'College/University' = 'Tertiary School' and/or 'Quaternary School if you choose to pursue both.' - NB!...: This makes sense considering that 'Primary School' is compulsory, while education after that is up to the student whether or not to continue and/or which direction to take from then on. -----
College=høyskole You can go directly to university after senior highschool, but you can take a bachelor in college (i.e teacher’s college, police academy) and take your master on a university. Today a lot of colleges are converted into univesities and it is a lot of discussion about the academic standard.
To clarify the extra year for high school we have isn’t reeeaaally an extra year if you go to university, as we have one year less. So a bachelor is 3 years in Norway, master is 2 years added to that.
The path from child to student in school: Starts in kindergarten as a one-year-old, and in many kindergartens they have pre-school in the last year. Then you start primary school as a six-year-old in first grade, and it lasts until they go up to eighth grade, then they start secondary school, which is from eighth to tenth grade. After finishing the first 10 years, it's on to a 3-year vocational school, where you start to focus on the profession you want. If you want to study more after graduation, you go to university.
The Preschool year is really part of Kindergarten and is a preparation period for these children for school. It's not mandatory, and if you don't go to Kindergarten you wont get this. Grades 1 through 10 are Grunnskolen, or compulsory school which is both mandatory and a right. This is typically divided into three parts, 1-4, 5-7 and 8-10, where you are graded only for the last three years. Depending on where you live, the number of students in a given area and so forth, you some times have physical schools that have all 10 grades where the school area is often divided in three, although not necessarily physically blocked off but more that a given area is better facilitated for a certain age. If there are fewer students, of if this is a policy in a given area, you could see schools that are only grades 1-4, some times with a Kindergarten in the same building, and then they start 5th grade at a different physical school that can be close by as well, or further away depending on where your live. Then, other schools can have any combination of 1-7, 5-7, 5-10 or 8-10, but as far as I know, always divided between 4 and 5 or 7 and 8. Students are graded in 8-10, and these grades determines if you get in to your preferred Highschool which is typically somewhere between 2 to 4 years of education and directions paired with work practice, for example 2 years in school and one year in work practice, after which you get a vocational certificate enabling you to start working full time. If you want to go to University or College then you need general university admissions certification which typically requires 3 years of school. It is possible to complete an education getting a vocational certificate, but then take another year of education afterwards to get a general university admissions certification and still apply to University or College. Which Highschool you are accepted into depends on your grades from grades 8-10, but when you complete Highschool those grade becomes irrelevant and only your grades from Highschool will determine if you get a place where you want in College or University. And, just like with all education so far, everyone who have completed 3 years of Highschool and have received a general university admissions certification have the right to an admission into University or College, but depending on your grade you might or might not get in where you want. And, all this is free.
04:09 How we do it in my area of Norway is 1st through 7th grade being Barneskole (Kid school) in one school location, then for 8th through 10th grade we go to Ungdomsskole (Teenager's school) at a different school location. After that, you a third school location for Videregående Skole (Further Educational School, I guess?) where - for whatever reason the Norwegian School System decided - you revert back to 1st grade when you start and end either in 3rd grade, 4th grade, or however much longer you decide to spend in school. 04:56 Grades don't start until at the end of 7th grade, although those do not matter, as they are just a test to see where you're at educational wise before you start Ungdomsskole where the grades do matter.
We don't have grades, but we have numbers instead It's like you get an English test and as normal, like 6 words that we have to translate into Norwegian, we can skip if we're not sure Sometimes we get bonus points when there's a word that can be described and we do describe it we get bonus points. We get like 10 minutts for 6 words 😊. We also have groups the groups is the people who are not really good at english they get inn a group and to another room. We have rooms for them who is inn groups😊 And thats my school😊
I want to clarify since I have lived in America, lived there for 4 years and completed the end of elementary school and all of middle school there, whilst also attending middle school in Norway and high school in Norway. Now I don’t want to generalize since I think there are big differences in the education you receive from school to school, and that certainly goes for both countries, but in my experience America had more choice when it came to electives, especially in middle school. I would say America had way more choice in middle school. Not so much in high school, but I still believe America has a little more here as well. Also no, there is no extra year before elementary in Norway, yes we have 13 years of school including high school (even though only up to middle school is mandatory), but we have one less year in university for the same degrees, so someone getting a bachelor or masters in Norway and America would still finish at the same time.
Grades: 6=A 5=B 4=C 3=D 2=E 1=F When she stated you would need a 5 or 4.8 grade it just means you would need to get an average grade of 5, 4.8 or whatever the criteria is to be eligible for that specific course at that specific school
Kindergarten is kind of like baby sitting, they learn stuff but not as much as you think, the teach manners friendship and social skills. And 1st garde you start learning to write and read Grades in Norway is graded 1-6 and it’s extremely hard to get over 5. you mostly get 4 that is very standard but it’s SO hard to climb up to a 5 and 6 is perfect And as a videregående student I choose more of a mechanical direction, I work with metal, I weld and make so much cool stuff and after the 1st year you get a even bigger range of choices, the direction I choose has over 10 follow ups in the second year, but some has 5. the ones with five is usally the cooking direction and those not so popular choices, I actually had to have at least 4.5 to get in my direction but I have learning disability’s and struggles and that means I get “special treatment direction choices” that means like I get an advantage and so much higher chance in getting into your first choice of the three you get, I only had a 2.08 and that is under half what is required but I am doing so well with something around a 4 now and hopefully I get into chemistry and process in my second year
Grades 1-7: mostly fun and games, education by playing. Grades 8-10: Ordinary education, tests, essays, you get grades. After 10th grade you're not compelled to take any further education, but most teens go to VGS (videregående skole) - VGS is 3 )sometimes 4) years where you can choose prep for University, or hone your skills in on a certain career. (I took Graphic Design) - so I was done after 3 years in VGS. Others go on from VGS to Høyskole or University. 3 year bachelors or 5 years master studies. And you could go for a phd after that if you want to.
The kindergartens (we say children's garden in Norwegian, but so do you - but in German) in Norway are from 1-6 years (not obligatory). The one year of pre-school to get used to the structure of school. Then 6 years of children school, 3 year of youth school, and then you choose what to do - work, vocational school, highschool, or folk high school. So only the first 10 years are obligatory. Everything is paid for however - even most of the fees of the volountary schools. You pay for books usually.
You are surprised that the grades matter to get into specific high schools in Norway, but where I live getting into high school is even harder: We need to pass an exam. If we don‘t pass it, we can not go to high school. And after that exam there is a probation period lasting one semester which we have to pass to stay in high school. But I‘ll just explain our school system in general. In Switzerland (I can only talk about Zurich, cause the education system varies a lot throughout the country): 1. Kindergarten (Kindergarden): For two years prior to 1st grade, from 4 to 6 years old. I can‘t really tell you how it is nowadays. When I was a kid it was mainly playing, but I know that it got more „schoolified“ since then. 2. Primarschule (Elementary school): 1st to 6th grade. After the first three years you usually change the teacher, so it consists of two 3 year blocks. from the 3rd grade (when I was a kid it was from 2nd grade) onwards you learn english, in 5th grade you start to learn French. After that it gets a bit more complicated, cause there are two options: 1. You can go to the Sekundarschule (Secondary school) which lasts 3 years (7th to 9th grade) after which the mandatory school is finished. 2. You can take the exam to go to the Langzeitgymnasium (long term high school) which lasts 6 years. In the first two years of Langzeitgymnasium you have to learn Latin. If you did not go to the Langzeitgymnasium you again have two options (it‘s a bit more complicated, there are other types of schools and options but I focus on the two most common paths): 1. You finish the 3 years of secondary school and then start a Lehre (apprenticeship) which lasts between 2 and 4 years. So you basically start to work and earn money, but during the apprenticeship you still have two to three days of school a week. After the apprenticeship you can work in the field of your apprenticeship. This is actually what most people do here. So yeah, most Swiss start working at around 16 years old. 2. After 8th or 9th grade you again have the chance to take an exam to go to high school. In the Kurzzeitgymnasium (short term high school), which means you skip the first two years of the Langzeitgymnasium (1st grade of Kurzzeitgymnasium is exactly the same as the 3rd grade of Langzeitgymnasium and you get the same diploma after both, so it does not really matter). In high school (3rd grade of the Langzeitgymnasium or 1st grade of Kurzzeitgymnasium) you can choose an additional foreign language. The options are: Italian, Spanish, Russian, Latin or Ancient Greek. Something a bit funny: Another name for the high school in Switzerland is „Mittelschule“ which has the literal meaning „Middle school“. The swiss term „Hochschule“ (which literally means „high school“) refers to a university. But yeah, after high school you have to take the Matura exam, which allows to study at a university. And here comes something I really like about our system: As long as you pass the Matura you can apply to almost every Swiss university and you will get admission to that university, no matter if you barely passed it or if had the best possible grades. This includes universities like the ETH, which is consistently ranked as one of the 10 best universities in the world. There are some exceptions though: There are some private universities where this is not the case (but I don‘t think many Swiss people go there) and for medicine you need to pass an additional test (but the latter will probably change soon). So yeah, in general you can say, the hardest step if you plan to go to university in Switzerland, is getting into high school. Most people who pass the entrance exam and „survive“ the probation period do also pass the Matura and if you passed the Matura you are guaranteed to get a place at a university (but depending on the subject you wanna study it will be hard to stay in, cause in really popular degrees they use the first year of university to sort out the people who are not good enough). For the grades: Like in Norway our grades are 1 to 6. 1 being the worst, 6 the best. Unlike in Norway you need at least a 4 to pass. And by the way: If you did not go to high school there are still other ways to get a Matura to go to university
In Finland we have grades from 4-10 (4 is failed, 8 is good and 9-10 is excellent). Kids have many tests but many kids like them because often parents and grandparents give money for good grades (8-10). They also study for the tests with the kids. 9th grade report card should be in total about average 7-8 to get to High School. After that nobody will care about their grades. You have to only graduate from High School and pass an entry exam to get to any University.
Here you need to have straight A's (6's) in all subjects in high school to get into medicine, just as an example. Really bad system because it doesn't make you any better equipped to be a good doctor in the future than one who has only B's (5's). it only shows that you were willing to study incredibly hard for a test.
Our son (16) is at 'videregående' school and will be there for 3 years. He chose transport/logistics/electricity and welding the first year, and 2. and 3.rd year he'll have a more 'indepth' corriculum in either of these 'directions'. He'll deside during spring -25 where he'll go. And by autumn -25 he'll have the 2 final years. He's not sure on what directions he wants, but i think he'll choose transport/mechanics, where he will have a good chanse of getting a job when he's finished at age 19.
In Denmark its kinda the same (we are brothers after all) we have Folkeskole (public school I guess) and that is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9. grade. our grades are separated into indskolingen (primary school) 0.-3. grade, mellemtrinet (middel school) 4.-6. grade and udskolingen (highschool) 7.-9. grade. We dont get graded until 7. grade. (some schools only have up until 6. grade, but they will then have a different school that the kids will be sent to after 6. grade). After 9. grade you can decide if you wanna go to efterskole (boarding school) for a year or if you wanna go directly to gymnasium (you have to have a certain average in grades to get into different gymnasiums, but it will usually be around 6). and after gymnasium you can get higher education if you want. This is not a perfect explanation its just a quick go through of the danish education system. :P
To clarify on the start of the video. We usually translate barnehage to kindergarten, but in America kindergarten is the first year of what we call "barneskule/barneskole". Barnehage is what comes before American kindergarten. In barnehage, you are often divided into groups based on age. This can vary depending on where you go. Barneskule/barneskole is also often divided into two. Grade 1-4 and 5-7. This also depends on the school, and in some cases the school might also be merged with an ungdomskule/ungdomskole (grade 8-10).
----- @temanor ----- - It seems that you've got things a bit mixed up... I think the confusion stems from the fact that she didn't point out in the video that what we here in Norway call 'Førskolen' which is between the end of 'Kindergarten' and the start of the 1st grade of 'Elementary School'. They call that 'Preschool' in the 'USA', comparatively speaking. -----
@@BizzyX78 We don't have førskole in Norway anymore. (Unless I'm completely blind and have been lied to my whole life.) There were some changes some time before 2000. Now, we have barnehage until you are 5/6 years old. This varies depending on when you are born during the year. Barnehage does have some minimal education, but not a part of the school system.When you get to 1st grade in Norway you are 5/6 years old. Then you will go to barneskule for 7 years until you are 12/13 years old. From what I read online, they have something similar to barnehage until you turn 5 years old in America. After that you begin kindergarten (for 1 year?) and then you start school after that. But it doesn't seem like they split their classes up based on what year they are born, but instead they have a cutoff date? I might be mistaken, so please correct me if I said anything wrong.
01:50 What she's saying is that there's Pre-school in Norway called Førskole, just like how it works in the USA - I assume, my older brother by 2 years went to Pre-school back in, uh, 1992/3? - you can send your kids to førskole so they get accustomed to how school will work, and have a chance of getting a leg-up on the other children that didn't go to førskole.
She's making a mistake using English names. We have Children's School, Youth School and Advanced School. High school means something entirely different in Norway and typically comes after Advanced School and is an alternative to college. We have a high school of police, nursing, agriculture, drama, sports, etc.
We have the right to get to go to a regular Highschool but we might not get our first choice when it comes to directions. The better grades you have the bigger chance to get your first choice. However, the requirements are usually not that high, if you only got D’s in middle school you have a pretty good chance getting your number 1.
From my experience the grades from middle school weren’t super important, since if you just got average grades you would be able to basically get into any high school. But now they have slightly changed the system to favor high schools closer to you. But you always get into a high school (it’s not like you won’t get accepted or anything). Also the education lever for the high schools is generally the same, and the curriculum is the same.
it seems like no one is mentioning it. in vidergående (highscool) if you pick one of the lines focused towards becoming an electrician for instance. you are in school for two years (with choices on the second year on what within electrician you want to work with) then the third and fourth year (if one would choose it) is apprentice (where you get a apprentice job at a company) with an exam at the end of the second year of being an apprentice (lærling) after that you get a "fagbrev" (degree certificate i guess). with that in hand you can now start looking for jobs and start your worklife. (the exam at the end of an apprentice, for me it was 1 week work with a practical solution and documentation (I went the IT line). i had a 40 page document describing my work, stressful week)
I don't think she's explaining Norwegian high school too well with her examples. There is a general academic-focused direction (which is 3 years), there's vocational-focused directions (which are 2 years of school, followed by 2 years of internship). You do have a sort of middle-ground type of thing, which allows for a mix of academics and other subjects (also 3 years), but it's still mainly an academic direction as you are meant to move on to higher education afterwards (just with a few less options for paths to pursue). You can also take an extra academic year (if you do vocational or middle-ground) to fill out the gaps if you change your mind about pursuing higher education later. Because of competition for the spaces in the various directions, you have to apply to high school with your preferred directions ranked. It's not necessarily which high shcool you get into, but which direction you get into. Though you do have kids who go to high school in a different city and either have to have a long commute or live on their own in that city (which I did). There's all sorts of vocational directions you can go for, it can be healthcare, social work, electrical, plumping, carpentry, hospitality, and a bunch of other things (it's a pretty long list). If you know you want to pursue one of those paths or you just aren't made for academics, they are great options to take. It gives you a quick path to a job, and there's always options to build upon it if you want to do more specialized things later on. And having that in your back pocket you always have something to fall back on if you need to. Like my niece went vocational, finished her internship and passed her final certification. Even though she intends to pursue a different career (within the food realm), having that certificate to lean back on is a major benefit to her.
I don't know what year she is talking about between kindergarten and 1st grade. You start in kindergarten when you're 1-2 years old (some religious people don't let their kids go to kindergarden at all and those kids are doomed to be picked on) and in the year you turn 6 (so if you're born in December you're 5 in August when school starts) you start school. 1st grade is all about learning the alphabet and some simple words and to write, and you learn some simple math like 2+2=4 and after Christmas you usually start to learn more advanced words to write and you should know how to read short texts. The kids also learn English and they start with numbers, colors and the alphabet and they learn songs like abc and colors of the rainbow. When they start 3rd grade their English is actually very good, and my niece actually sounds like the Queen of England when she speaks English as they learn Oxford English or the Queens English. When they're 12-13 they start middle school and get grades, and then when you're 15-16 you start high school. In middle school you can choose to learn another language like French, German, Spanish, Advanced English and some places you might also have a choice of sign language or Sami language. My niece that is 14 and speaks very good English and has a bookshelf full of English books that she read, and she also knows Spanish quite well, but it's more rare to know Russian or Ukrainian even though a lot of Ukrainian children now go to school here, but they needs to learn Norwegian to be able to communicate with their friends if they can't speak English. In high school you're told that it's your own responsibility to learn and do your homework and get good grades. People take school very seriously to have their first choice in higher education. If you attend the university to become a medical doctor you need to get some extra points to get in, so it's not for everyone unfortunately. It's hard even to become a teacher these days, before if you didn't get into the university or your first choice you could always just become a teacher or a kindergarten teacher, now it's as hard as it was to become a doctor before. You don't have to pay any money to go to university, but you can get a student scholarship and a student loan so you can get a place to live and get the books and all you need, as you will most likely have to move to a bigger city like Oslo, Bergen, Tromsø or Stavanger to go to university, but you can get higher education at the smallest little towns and places like Bø in Telemark. A lot of young people have a job beside school from they're 13-15 to be able to save money to move away to go to school and a lot of them also have a job when they go to higher education or university also as there isn't enough places for students to live, the school doesn't always have student apartments and it's very expensive to rent a place to live, you can get a 25 SQ.m apartment for like 7000 NOK a month in the most rural areas, but in Oslo it's most likely 14000 for the same. A lot of people don't have a rich family, but they are still able to go to school and get a well paid job when they're done so they don't have to be as poor as their family if they come from a family with no money. Education is the key to wellness for all, so I think America needs to give the kids the same as we have to be able to get people off the street and into business. Education shouldn't be just for the lucky students that get a scholarship if they don't have a wealthy family or the rich people, it should be for everyone, it's even written in your constitution that all men are created equal, so why don't people get the same rights. We pay more tax, but I know that my doctor or my kids teachers have 5-8 years of education, what I don't know is if they're from a wealthy family or not, and I don't care. In Norway we also call our teachers by their first name like if your teachers name is Christian Andersen you don't call him Herr Andersen (Mr Andersen) you just call him Christian or even just Chris if he prefers that. In higher education you might need to call them their last name like Andersen, but most likely it's just Chris there also. When you get a job you also call your boss Chris instead of Herr (Mr) Andersen and you also call your friends parents by their first name. I'm old enough that I had to use the last name for some teachers, usually the older ones, but I actually asked one of the teachers what her name was and she told me, but told me to keep it a secret as she didn't like her name so she preferred Fru (Mrs) and her last name, but this is more than 30 years ago. I actually had to explain to some kids why the kids in American tv shows always use Mr and Mrs, some kids don't even know their teachers last name here 😂 I don't know if it's still as strict in America that you have to use the last name for all adult people. When I think about it it's so funny to me what I should have called my friends parents if they just had used their last name. I think I prefer first names. I always had some respect for them even though I was a wild kid, so it doesn't have to be as strict to get respect. In Norway we also respect our boss even though we go on a "hyttetur" with them or go to another country on a weekend trip with our colleagues including the boss. When we go on these trips we might even catch a ride with the boss if he or she lives the nearest to go to the bus or train, ferry or airplane if we don't drive all the way with the car. A lot of workplaces also have outdoor activities like going to sleep in a hammock in the woods somewhere, usually in the middle of nowhere 😂 and get eaten by mosquitoes and smell like a fireplace when you go home after not sleeping at all because your hammock fell down in the middle of the night and you ended up sleeping on the ground with 700000 ants and spiders and the owl howling from a tree nearby 😂 and you also saw a moose walk by. But we like to spend time with our colleagues that we spend 8 hours with 5 days a week, so why not also go on a long weekend starting Thursday night with those people. Nothing is more relaxing than getting to spend a whole weekend listening to Ragnhild from Regnskap talking about her boring life and Jarle from Economy getting too drunk and starting to cry over his wife leaving him. 😅 When you go to work on Monday you have to pretend like it never happened until some guy just can't hold his tongue and everyone is talking about it and how fun it was and you forget how many spiders and ants and owls it was as you just remember how fun it was, and maybe you even got to know Ragnhild a little better and can ask her about her cats and her birds and her latest yoga class. Maybe you understand better why Jarle is not as funny as he used to and you get to ask him if he needs any help with something. It's very good for the work environment. It doesn't mean it's all perfect, you might remember those ants for a long time so to speak.
You start with English in first grade at primary school, so when you get to middle school, you can choose four other languages if you wish, that is Spanish, French and German, and or you go on to expand English.
We used to start 1st grade the year you turn 7, and we had 6 grades in elementary school, followed by 3 in junior high. In 1997 we had "Reform 97", everyone skipped one year to introduce 7 grades in elementary school. And yeah, grades are introduced at 8th grade in junior high, but we do get corrected with "R" for "Riktig" (translate to correct) instead of grades.
alot has to do with when you get to be "Russ" at the end of Videregående Skole aka VGS different colours depending on the amount of years you did in highschool / VGS so it depends on edjucation route you could say ... mechanical / industrial, Culinary school and such are most likely 2 years but more education where it's imo very Math heavy is most likely 3 years idk if my explanation makes sense but yeah could also depend on the region / province in norway
Our grading system is 1 (F) to 6 (A), n to get into high school or university you have to have a higher average than their minimum requirement. So if you have 4 (C) in math, 5 (B) in english, 2 (E) in gym and 6 (A) in science your average is (4+5+2+6=17, 17/4 subjects = 4,25). So if the school had a minimum requirement of "4,6", with these grades you would not be able to get into that school. And if there are alot of people wanting to go to one particular school the minimum requirement gets raised and only the once with the highest grades get in. But we have a lot of different high schools to choose from so usually everyone gets to go to a high school, but not always their top choice.
Ok, As a Norwegian kindergarten teacher, i would like to point out that our kindergarten is slightly different than what the US would call a kindergarten. Parents of children age 1-5 is offered the option to opt into Kindergarten. in norway, you can essentialy look at kindergarten as an extention to childcare, aswell as educating the children on topics like society, religion, ethics, nature, interactions between themselves, and adults and so forth (on a age appropriate level of course). However, the last year (Age 5-6) is often refered to as the "preschool" year, this year. we spend much more time on educating the childen on things like how to act if your in sertain school like situation, being self-sufficient in situations like dressing/undressing, toilet visits, meal-prepping and so forth. we also keep an eye on their interest for things like writing/reading, and have meetings with their schools about how we thing the transition between kindergarten and school will be. and yes. alot of our 5-6 y/o are already half-fluent in english due to both media aswell as the fact that norway is rather multi-cultural at this point.
Tyler: Kindergarden is just daycare. They do play and learn but it is not schooling as such. Nor is it preparation for school. Preschool however is absolutely preparation for proper school. Now that we start "school" a year earlier than we used to, there has also been changes to the first year as well as the maturity level of the kids are much lower the first year or normal school as a result.
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definitely not multi cultural at all. Only in certian parts of Oslo. Other than that it isnt, so thats quite misleading.
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@Cvpidbakuyeah a lot of this depends on where you live
Yeah, we don't grade our kids. We might be vikings, but we're not barbaric.
As for the high schools, there are different "lines" you can choose - these ARE the electives. Thus, you compete for which schools you want to go to with your grades from middle school.
@DarkVitamins We haven't graded people in primary school since 1999. I didn't start school till 2004.
@@DarkVitamins im 27 only grades i got in barneskole, was typycal 45/50 correct, and no end of year/semester grades.
@@double0899 Yeah, and those weren't really grades - it was simply a result of a single test. The Norwegian law prohibits primary schools from grading children - ever since 1999.
Hæ? Hva mener du? Såklart vi gir karakterer, men ikke før ungdomsskolen?! Vikings?🤣🤣🤣 1. å være viking var et yrke aka pirater. Men hvis du syns det er gildt å være morder, plyndrer, samt tyv og voldtektsmann…👀 Og vikingtiden endte med kristningen av Norge, slaget ved Stiklestad, og Harald Hårfagre samlet landet til et rike, og de mindre høvdingene/kongene flyktet landet, spesielt vestover til Island fra Sogndal.
@@HenoikIn my country, and in the countries where my grandsons currently attend school (🇨🇦🇰🇪🇦🇺🇬🇧), they don't grade children either. They grade their abilities in various subjects. It avoids little Sven's mother announcing to all and sundry that he's a budding Edvard Munch when he cannot tell red from green.
In Norway, after completing compulsory education (similar to high school in the U.S.), students can choose between two main pathways:
**University-Preparatory Programs**
These programs last three years and prepare students for higher education, such as university or college. They focus on academic subjects, and students can choose from:
- Sports Studies
- Art, Design, and Architecture
- Music, Dance, and Drama
- General Academic Studies (similar to liberal arts)
- Media and Communication
**Vocational Education Programs**
These programs are more job-oriented and combine practical training with theoretical knowledge. After three to five years (including apprenticeships), students can enter the workforce. Examples of vocational programs include:
- Construction and Building Technology
- Electronics and Computer Technology
- Hairdressing, Floral Design, and Interior Design
- Healthcare and Childhood Development
- IT and Media Production
- Restaurant and Culinary Arts
The main difference is that university-preparatory programs focus on academic studies for higher education, while vocational programs provide skills for specific careers. This system gives students flexibility to choose based on their interests and goals.
There is also the third option allowing you to start on vocational training, but shift over to university preparation on final year. This is very hard due to the condensed requirements this last year but it avoids all the drama and music classes that many practical people really hate, allowing these to build basic skills and knowledge on subjects they are more interested in.
In the end, it may also benefit them in their final careers if they can use this base vocational knowledge combined with their university degree in a later job.
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Yes, there’s many other options, but these are the most common choice’s.
Let me correct this a bit. This is after completing middel school ( ungdomsskole) they are talking about, not High school ( Videregående skole). It's in High school you have theese programs and differences.
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Yes. Thanks!
We have 10 years of compulsary schooling in Norway, called "Grunnskolen" ( Basic school ). These ten years are often divided into Barneskolen 1-7 grade ( Kids-school ) and Ungdomsskolen 8-10 grade ( Youth school ), or Elementary and middle school.
There are no grading system within the barneskole. Yes, the kids have tests, but that's only to reflect on how they learn, and is only there for the teacher to see if some of the kids might need some extra help.
The grades starts at middleschool. This is when it gets more serious. The grades are then reflected onto which highschool you might get into.
As a norwegian ill say that they have really different schooles
Another comment to clarify videregående / highschool
In 10th grade (ungdomskule/ungdomskole) you will apply for a position in highschool (videregående). Every Norwegian has the right to go to videregående, but you might not get into the class you want. Videregående is split up into a bunch of different classes. Programming, healthcare, music, arts, sports etc. She just devided these into A, B and C without explaining them that well. Idk if she will explain better next episode.
Depending on what path you choose, you will either go 2 or 3 years of videregående. I chose programming, which means I only went 2 years then started working as an apprentice for 2 years. I could also take an extra year in videregående and then take a higher education if I want. If your path requires 3 years, you can take a higher education right away. One of the paths you can choose is studiespesialiserende, which is basically normal school like you're used to for 3 more years then you can get a higher education after that.
3:43 we dont go an extra year in school, its because you start school when you’re 5-6 depending on if your birthday is before or after you start school.
Førskole (preschool) is not a thing in Norway. It hasn't been a thing for over 20years.
Kindergarden is optional. From ca 6months until the year you turn 6.
Barneskole (childrens school) - you attend the school closest to your home
-we start lesrning English in 1.grade, at 6yo.
1.grade 6yo - 7.grade 12yo
Ungdomskole (youth school) - you attend the school closest to your home
8.grade 13yo - 10.grade 15yo
Videregåendeskole (advanced learning and tradeschool)
-you have to apply, everyone has the right to a school place, but if your grades are bad you will have to take what you get.
Start when you are 16yo depending on what line you choose, it is 3 or 4 years.
After this it is university or if you have gone to tradeschool you start working.
Hey i went to førskole ok liksom the er ikke mitt problem det var på laudal skole som kanjse skal leges ned 😢😢😢😢
The problem a lot of teens experience with choosing high-school is that at age 15, many of them have very little idea what they want to do for the rest of their life. And really an insane amount of choices to choose from
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Yeah that is true, but at the same time it's not like the choice is set in stone, you can change your program if you want to later, although this generally entails you needing to start high school again.
As a teacher in a norwegian school, let me try to explain this in a easy way. I teach primarily elementary school children and in the years 1-4. Like she said in the video elementary school is usually devided into two groups even though they often share the building and playground. The children don`t get grades and don`t have many tests. Many elementary schools now have redused or completly stoped giving out homework as well. The teachers in elemantary school also teach multiple subjects, like I for instace teach; norwegian, english, social studies, science, art and music. In the years 5-7 the teacher are often more divided by subject.
The one year in kindergarten she was talking about is just the last year befor they are to start school were they learn things like how to raise their hand, hold their pencil correctly and write their name. Simple stuff like that.
In middle school (years 8-10) the teenagers now get both grades and more homework. They also now get to choose more subjects including a third language. Usually these languages are spanish, german and french, but you can also get more advanced english and some schools offer other languages as well such as mandarin chinese. In middle school the students are also now more responcible for their own learning and are expected to aply themself. Like she said in the video, your grades in middle school can determine if you get in to the high school of your choosing. Everyone gets into high school but the better grades you have the more options you have.
When you start high school no matter what type of lane you chose (preperastion for higher education, vocational or a mix) you now have much more freedom to chose your subjects. Many students now also go to school out of their home town and either commute back and forth or move out. I myself went to a mixed lane high school where I had both university prepping courses like maths, sience, history, social studies and politics, english, german (the language I chose in middle school) and norwegian. I also had some more vocational courses I picked out like photography, design and art history.
After high school you either go on to higher education if you chose that lane or you are finished with school and start working. You can of course still go to university if you chose the vocational lane, but you have to take a year of uni prepping classes.
now ... that's a B- in English ...
2:10 you’re basically still in kindergarten but you get separated from the younger kids once in a while to learn numbers and stuff
You don't get grades, but you do get feedback. A grade is a simple constant, one B could be different from another person's B. The feedback is what tells you what you need to better on. Higher grades are also hard to get, unlike the US. Being a straight A-student would mean the top 1% of pupils in the country. The average is around C, depending on the subject. Thus grades mean a lot more here. That also removes the need for big tests that determine your future. It is instead mostly determined by how you did all throughout the year.
How "barneskole" is divided probably depends on the number of students and space available. Around here each elementary school (1-7) is at one school and nothing really changes.
In rural areas kindergarten (age 1-5) can be located next to, or connected to, the elementary school (1st-7th grade), which can also have the middle school part (8th-10th grade).
These schools are run by the municipality. In mine there are 10 elementary schools with two of them also having middle school. In the main town or admin center there is also a larger dedicated middle school where kids from the 8 elementary schools without middle school go to.
I am older (69) so we started school at age 7, no kindergartens in the countryside. We learnt English from age 10-11, then German from age 14 and then French from age 16!
Yeah, the barneskolen is true
for my school its a red school, on the top left side of the school ground, then its the blue/grey school on the right side of the school ground, and the yellow school the "abandoned" building, its used as storage because i was in there once, but its faced at the front of the school ground and all the way at the back, and that "weird" school building infront of the grey/blue one. And yes we dont have grades and most of the kids are aggressive, mean, sassy, or ect i mean- it might just be my school and its crazy
Grades in Norway goes from 6-1.
6 = A
5 = B
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1= F
We also operate with plus/minus. Execpt you can’t get 6+ or A+, as a 6 usually means 95%-100% correct.
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- If I have understood it correctly that is for up to the end of 'high school'...
After which higher education even in Norway has opted for the use of the 'F through A'-scale as well nowadays.
Back in the day higher education like university used the '6 through 1'-scale, where the grade of 6 was the lowest and the grade of 1 was the highest, in contrast to high school which use or at least used to use the '1 trough 6'-scale that you mentioned briefly.
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@@BizzyX78 no it’s in everything after u get 13
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The university use the F to A system.
@@oh515 but u don’t gotta go to university. The others u do need
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Also college use letters.
From what I’ve gathered of the American education system (which might be completely wrong) Norwegian high school is like a mix of the American high school and college. Here high schoolers have a lot of freedom to choose their path for their future. We can either choose to go in the more practical career related direction in high school where you have to years of high school with some specific subjects from your direction (health direction have some health subjects etc) and then have two years of working as an apprentice in your chosen career and at the end you actually have an education. Like for example you could be a licensed carpenter at the end of the two years. Or you can choose the «normal» direction which prepares you for university. But within this line you can also choose the subjects you want, like electives. But for some university degrees it is required that you have taken some specific subjects in high school (usually the science subjects) to get in. If you’re studying to become a doctor in university you need to have taken physics and chemistry and the most complicated math in high school for example. So you have a lot more freedom and a lot more choices that can directly influence your future career already in high school. In the normal direction you can also go a specific line that doesn’t give you an education other than the high school diploma to get into university but is just for fun, like sports or science or theater. It is your grades from your chosen subjects along with the mandatory subjects that determine your final grades which you use to apply for university.
In my school at least, there was one floor for the students in 1-4th grade and on the second floor there was the students in 5-7th grade, so it isn’t exactly ‘divided’. Also, in Norway we don’t grade with A’s and B’s and C’s, we just get a number from 1-6 (1 being the worst and 6 being the best)
About feedback in school. They get feedback on what tp work on and how it is going, and there are meeting thru the year between teacher, the pupil and the parents for feedback and discussion. You know pretty well how the kids are doing.
Okay so we don’t have to schools for Barneskolen, 1 to 4 is on the bottom of the school and 5 to 7 is on the top. This is on my school though. And school is really stressful for 5 to 7, we have test and we prep for vidregåne. Not all schools have French. Hope this helps. I’m 11 just so you know so I know all about Barneskolen ❤
In Norway they don't have kindergarten! They play until they're 5
There are approximately 400 upper secondary schools in Norway. Pupils can choose one of the schools in their county. The schools specialize in different subjects. Construction, electrical, health, etc., etc., etc. Students choose three school options, and are guaranteed a place in one of these. The higher their grade, the greater their chance of getting their first wish
instead of grades in 1-7 here in norway, they see/track how good they are in the subjects through development interviews with their teacher. :)
and nasjonale prøver that she said
I live in Norway and that’s not how you say Barneskole and also all the other ones.
Also in Norway we learn English too speek too other people in different countries and lands. =D
And we have Viking blood
Norway is a cool country
We have Barne skolen: Lille trinnet 1-4 klasse Mellom trinnet: 5-7 Stor trinnet: 8-10 Ongdomskole: 16 years
Er du norsk. Are you Norwegian
School system is very alike across the Nordics and to some extend northern Europe.
So you are not just learning about Norwegian School but North European schools.
We don't have grades in elementary school, but we do evaluate A LOT. We tell the kids and the parents during conference each semester. If a kid has a specialized plan, we evaluate even more.
5:43 if you’re writing on like paper for schoolwork your teacher’ll obviously take the paper in and read it but they just won’t write like “A+” “C”. If it’s a test on paper, again they’ll take it in and read it and if it’s a test on the computer at my elementary school we had two English tests, two Norwegian tests and two math tests every year and we had a special website where I don’t know if it’s the community (town state community whatever) or the teachers that go and check the answers
I live in Norway and I loooovvvveeeee it so much snow ❄️ no grades
The way We track our skills is we do one utdannings test witch means testing our skills and we have a test that doesn’t have a nam but it asks how things are at home and at school
They ara being assessed by given adise on progression and corrections in a dialogue or in writing. So they will be assessed, not just with a number or a letter. There is no extra year, but last year of kindergarted looks little different then before. They teach them some skilles and prepare them om more what school will be like.
1-4th grade = elementary/primary wtv u call it
5-7th grade = "introduction" to middle school
8-10th grade= middle school
1st-3rd grade VGS= high school (VGS= videregående skole/highschool)
And to answer your question on 5:43 basically, we have tests throughout the schoolyear called kartlegger, basically translates to map. Which means, its a "map" (not actually a map but like a head over how the students are doing in the subject)
Languages in Norway (in school):
Starting in 1st grade:
Norwegian (Bokmål or Nynorsk basis, depending on where in the country you live)
"Sidemål" - If you have Bokmål as base, you have to have classes in Nynorsk, and vice versa (usually this happens around 4th or 5th grade, or at least it did for me in the 90s)
English - in parallel with Norwegian from day one of 1st grade, and continuously throughout all 13 years
Starting in Middle school (our 8th grade):
Foreign language, French or German is the most common, Spanish a bit less common - any other languages are less common still
Starting in High School - depending on what course you choose, you either continue the Foreign language from Middle School, or - if your school doesn't have that language - you pick a new one
So - any given High School graduate in Norway will have had at least 3 (4, if we include Sidemål) languages, a good chunk of us might have had 4 or more, where Norwegian and English are the ones we have for all 13 years.
You call a kindergarden in Norwegian 《barne hage》And then barne skule or barne skole and then we have ungdomsskole.
5:18 we have private meetings with the teachers and parents every half year! Hope this answers that! It’s called «foreldremøte» in English parents meeting. Or just with the student «elevsamtale» in English students meeting.
Its not a whole year between elementary school and kindergarten. Its the last year of kindergarten where we prepare for like "real school"
Even in Ireland 50+ years ago I did not have grades during the first 8 years (ages 5 to 13) of education either...
A student is guaranteed to get into high school, but not their preferred choice. The guarantee spans 5 years to allow students to opt out even after a year or two of education and begin a new path. Students apply to several educational paths and/or schools. And the once with the highest grade average are prioritized and given an offer of admission. This is what on a year by year basis creates a threshold for entry. Since students not admitted to their first choice then compete to get admitted to their second choice... and so on. Students are also allowed to remain in a "waiting queue" for their first or/second choice to cover for last minute changes/drop outs.
Usually, at least from my experience in Elementary, you usually see how many answers you got right, example being; 27/30 and teacher writing a comment at end like "Good! :)"
To put things into perspective: Where I'm from (Stavanger), which has a population around 150 000, there are 10-15+ high schools to choose from within a 10-20 mile radius. Some of them focus on sports, others on music and/or media, science, others are mixed and some have courses more suited towards culinary studies, industrial careers, and so on. Which school you pick is up to you, but in order to have a better chance and more flexibility to choose the school you really want, doing well in middle school is essential. If you dont give a shit, you'll still get into high school, but your options to pick and choose are very limited as you compete against other students.
We don’t have high school we have
Barnehage
Barneskole
Ungdomskole
Vidregående ❤
13:36 This is done likely to ensure a higher chance of succeeding in your classes, decreasing the chances that you end up either failing or having to retake years if you're too stubborn to dropout.
14:30 Sort of, you get a list of high schools and available line of study based on your grades in middle school, you might get to choose from three different high schools, or it could be two, or more than three, though I'm not familiar enough in this to know for sure. When I went to high school, I was given the choice between three different high schools with a few different lines of study, this was back in 2007 I believe, so how they do things today might differ from how they did it back in 2007.
16:10 Pretty much, you shouldn't have issues getting jobs after finishing high school. Each direction of study caters to different lines of work, so you would do your research before starting high school into which directions fit the best according to what you wish to do for work when you are finished. Some directions offer extended education, where you continue your high school education through 4th or even 5th grades instead of ending at the 3rd grade. You also get a chance at working at real jobs to earn work experience before you finish your high school education - though I never did this, so someone else would have to provide better information.
The teacher look at how many questions you got right.
When you come to apply to high school, we have two main schools, but the schools have different work-oriented classes. If you want to become a carpenter or a car mechanic, many people apply to what we call "Vocational school", and if you want to become a lawyer or something in accounting, you apply to "Gymnasium". To get into these schools, you need points, and to get into gymnasium you need more points than for "Vocational school".
I live in Norway!!!
8:46 it isn’t because of the extra year it just depends on you birthday and i would like to say that the extra year is still IN kindergarden but it’s more of a focus on basic stuff like spelling, and basic maths. and in middle school (idk if this is my my school) you get like half year grades, so for example you start the year after summer break and then in december you get like a summarized grade in your different classes, ok thanks bye 🙃
Once you go to videregående skole, (translates to advanced or intermediate school) the two main options are between university qualitfication or more of a profession qualification. So you can choose to train to become a mechanic, an electrician, a hair dresser, a lab technician, a it administrator, an assistant health care worker, child care worker and so on. Thats usually two years of school followed by a two year apprenticeship with reduced pay at a ordinary company, like a plumbing company or a hair dresser. After two years there is a practical exam, and if you pass you are given a "fagbrev", or a certificate that states that you are certified to work in that field.
Some professions require such a certification, such as working as an electrician.
University prep is just plain three years of school. Oh, and when you have your fagbrev, you can do one more year of school, sort of a intensified university prep year and be qualified for uni as well.
The two year speciality training programs do have ordinary subjects like Norwegian, math and English as well as the specialized subjects in order to facilitate taking uni prep later. English is often oriented towards your profession, though. So for instance, if you train to be an electrician, your English classes will focus more on terminology related to that line of work than the "ordinary" English taught in uni prep.
WE NORWEGIAN WE START AT 8.30 AT THE AGE OF 5 - 6
In north norway and maby also other rural areas in the south of norway, it is also very common that you will have to move to a different place to go to highschool. For example 15 year olds from my home town, typically move 450kilomiters away for their highschool choices. Its normal for 15 year olds to live alone without parents for these 2-3 years while studying. There are some student housing options but they are ecpected to cook, clean and manage their education on their own from that point.
Remember one important thing here. When you live in a small country its easier to change things faster. For example the school system. In addition we look to Sweden and Denmark. We also visit schools in Sweden and Denmark and look for better solutions. I guess they do the same with us. So, there you have it.. Smaller countries are more flexible because its simpler to change faster..
5:18 we do have tests from 3-7 grade just to see how much the kids have learned trough out of the year but it doesn’t go on any record when applying for jobs or college
I just have to clear something up. That extra year she's talking about between kindergarten and elementary school is still in kindergarten and not a part of the 13 years where we attend school. What she's referring to is more that it's the last year in kindergarten before you start school, so the focus will be more on maybe writing and reading a tiny bit, but basically nothing.
Its really similar for sweden. We have kindergarten up until we turn 5, when you start going to school during the year before 1st grade (förskolan/preschool), then you either go to the same school from 0-9th grade, or you go to the same from 0-6th grade and then change schools for year 7-9. This depends on if your first school has the grades 7-9 or not. Then we get to pick our high-school (gymnasie) where you choose if you to go to a "arbetsförbetedande" (work preparing) or "högskoleförberedande" (college preparing) program. Different schools have different programs, some have both kinds, but certain schools have different focuses. Under those 2 categories you have different programs depending on what you wanna study, and for the college preparing ones (the kind I went to) you further have to choose a direction in your second year (high-school is 3 years) that depends on your program. So if you're for exampel in the nature science program, you get to choose between nature-nature or the nature-social science programs. The schools of course choose both based on grades and sometimes where you live. And its good to select multiple options.
As for language. My school started teaching english in 1st grade, but I believe its only mandatory to start in 3rd, and you have to keep taking it, if i remember correctly, up until 2nd grade. As for other languages, you can start studying your native language directly if they have a teacher, the same goes for sign language if you need it, and other languages usually start in 7th grade, however we started in the 6th. You get to choose yourself which language you want to learn based on the options that are presented to you, and you study it up to the 9th grade. Whether or not you continue to study it during high-school depends on which program you're in, and if you study it for 1, 2, or 3 years can also vary depending on school. Swedish 1, math 1, and english 5 are the only courses everyone no matter which program have to get a passing grade in in order to graduate (although you need a certain amount of points, not every course is completely necessary, but only passing 3 is far from enough). After high-school you can either start working, or go to college, and you have a great variety of schools and programs to go to.
We also didn't get graded until we started 7th grade
4:43 i’m laughing Now
But it's like in my school its is a bridge and the right side is the 5-7 and the 1-4 is on the left side
Actually we they grade well I live in nannsestand somewhere in norway and we grade like we put a big r in the homework cuz that means Rikting. Rikting means correct and there's a school in norway in nannestad named preståsen skole there they grade. So if u google it u will see some kids swinging in a rope swing and there smiling and they are probably happy so thats all for today I will comment tomorrow so if u want to learn more LIKE AND COMMENT BYEEE❤
I have always thought this is a wrong way to explain it. When using the school system in USA and comparing that to the the Norwegian, I think it makes more sense to say that barneskole = elementairy and middle school, then ungdomsskole = highschool(due to the similarities), Videregående skole = college, høgskole/universitet =higher eduucation/university
Yes, this is how I see it.
@@reyesarsenal9 Came here to say this.
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- Alternatively, one could also say...
F.e.
First '1 trough 10' = 'Primary School'
Then '11 through 13' = 'Secondary School'
And last, but not least, 'College/University' = 'Tertiary School' and/or 'Quaternary School if you choose to pursue both.'
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This makes sense considering that 'Primary School' is compulsory, while education after that is up to the student whether or not to continue and/or which direction to take from then on.
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College=høyskole You can go directly to university after senior highschool, but you can take a bachelor in college (i.e teacher’s college, police academy) and take your master on a university. Today a lot of colleges are converted into univesities and it is a lot of discussion about the academic standard.
Norwigain grading is from 1-6, 1 sucks and 6 is the best. If you actually show up to class you basicly get a garentied 2.
I am from Norway 😊😊
I dont quite know where i missed out, but i never went to førskole...
To clarify the extra year for high school we have isn’t reeeaaally an extra year if you go to university, as we have one year less. So a bachelor is 3 years in Norway, master is 2 years added to that.
The path from child to student in school: Starts in kindergarten as a one-year-old, and in many kindergartens they have pre-school in the last year. Then you start primary school as a six-year-old in first grade, and it lasts until they go up to eighth grade, then they start secondary school, which is from eighth to tenth grade. After finishing the first 10 years, it's on to a 3-year vocational school, where you start to focus on the profession you want. If you want to study more after graduation, you go to university.
The Preschool year is really part of Kindergarten and is a preparation period for these children for school. It's not mandatory, and if you don't go to Kindergarten you wont get this. Grades 1 through 10 are Grunnskolen, or compulsory school which is both mandatory and a right. This is typically divided into three parts, 1-4, 5-7 and 8-10, where you are graded only for the last three years. Depending on where you live, the number of students in a given area and so forth, you some times have physical schools that have all 10 grades where the school area is often divided in three, although not necessarily physically blocked off but more that a given area is better facilitated for a certain age. If there are fewer students, of if this is a policy in a given area, you could see schools that are only grades 1-4, some times with a Kindergarten in the same building, and then they start 5th grade at a different physical school that can be close by as well, or further away depending on where your live. Then, other schools can have any combination of 1-7, 5-7, 5-10 or 8-10, but as far as I know, always divided between 4 and 5 or 7 and 8.
Students are graded in 8-10, and these grades determines if you get in to your preferred Highschool which is typically somewhere between 2 to 4 years of education and directions paired with work practice, for example 2 years in school and one year in work practice, after which you get a vocational certificate enabling you to start working full time. If you want to go to University or College then you need general university admissions certification which typically requires 3 years of school. It is possible to complete an education getting a vocational certificate, but then take another year of education afterwards to get a general university admissions certification and still apply to University or College. Which Highschool you are accepted into depends on your grades from grades 8-10, but when you complete Highschool those grade becomes irrelevant and only your grades from Highschool will determine if you get a place where you want in College or University.
And, just like with all education so far, everyone who have completed 3 years of Highschool and have received a general university admissions certification have the right to an admission into University or College, but depending on your grade you might or might not get in where you want. And, all this is free.
04:09 How we do it in my area of Norway is 1st through 7th grade being Barneskole (Kid school) in one school location, then for 8th through 10th grade we go to Ungdomsskole (Teenager's school) at a different school location. After that, you a third school location for Videregående Skole (Further Educational School, I guess?) where - for whatever reason the Norwegian School System decided - you revert back to 1st grade when you start and end either in 3rd grade, 4th grade, or however much longer you decide to spend in school.
04:56 Grades don't start until at the end of 7th grade, although those do not matter, as they are just a test to see where you're at educational wise before you start Ungdomsskole where the grades do matter.
We don't have grades, but we have numbers instead
It's like you get an English test and as normal, like 6 words that we have to translate into Norwegian, we can skip if we're not sure
Sometimes we get bonus points when there's a word that can be described and we do describe it we get bonus points.
We get like 10 minutts for 6 words 😊. We also have groups the groups is the people who are not really good at english they get inn a group and to another room. We have rooms for them who is inn groups😊
And thats my school😊
As a Norwegian the classes is divided in two so its: 1= a and b
2= a and b
3= a and b
4= a and b
5= a and b
6= a and b
7= a and b
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Depends on the school, we also divide into c, d and so on if we have to.
Yeah i know, were gettin like 30 new students in my class next yr so we're gonna have to split up too 3 classes maybe
I want to clarify since I have lived in America, lived there for 4 years and completed the end of elementary school and all of middle school there, whilst also attending middle school in Norway and high school in Norway. Now I don’t want to generalize since I think there are big differences in the education you receive from school to school, and that certainly goes for both countries, but in my experience America had more choice when it came to electives, especially in middle school. I would say America had way more choice in middle school. Not so much in high school, but I still believe America has a little more here as well. Also no, there is no extra year before elementary in Norway, yes we have 13 years of school including high school (even though only up to middle school is mandatory), but we have one less year in university for the same degrees, so someone getting a bachelor or masters in Norway and America would still finish at the same time.
Grades:
6=A
5=B
4=C
3=D
2=E
1=F
When she stated you would need a 5 or 4.8 grade it just means you would need to get an average grade of 5, 4.8 or whatever the criteria is to be eligible for that specific course at that specific school
Kindergarten is kind of like baby sitting, they learn stuff but not as much as you think, the teach manners friendship and social skills. And 1st garde you start learning to write and read
Grades in Norway is graded 1-6 and it’s extremely hard to get over 5. you mostly get 4 that is very standard but it’s SO hard to climb up to a 5 and 6 is perfect
And as a videregående student I choose more of a mechanical direction, I work with metal, I weld and make so much cool stuff and after the 1st year you get a even bigger range of choices, the direction I choose has over 10 follow ups in the second year, but some has 5. the ones with five is usally the cooking direction and those not so popular choices, I actually had to have at least 4.5 to get in my direction but I have learning disability’s and struggles and that means I get “special treatment direction choices” that means like I get an advantage and so much higher chance in getting into your first choice of the three you get, I only had a 2.08 and that is under half what is required but I am doing so well with something around a 4 now and hopefully I get into chemistry and process in my second year
Btw I’m fram Norway and I’m in Norway 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴
Grades 1-7: mostly fun and games, education by playing. Grades 8-10: Ordinary education, tests, essays, you get grades. After 10th grade you're not compelled to take any further education, but most teens go to VGS (videregående skole) - VGS is 3 )sometimes 4) years where you can choose prep for University, or hone your skills in on a certain career. (I took Graphic Design) - so I was done after 3 years in VGS. Others go on from VGS to Høyskole or University. 3 year bachelors or 5 years master studies. And you could go for a phd after that if you want to.
The kindergartens (we say children's garden in Norwegian, but so do you - but in German) in Norway are from 1-6 years (not obligatory). The one year of pre-school to get used to the structure of school. Then 6 years of children school, 3 year of youth school, and then you choose what to do - work, vocational school, highschool, or folk high school. So only the first 10 years are obligatory. Everything is paid for however - even most of the fees of the volountary schools. You pay for books usually.
as a student in norway, its too easy and it SUCKS
We graduate when we are 18 or 19 years old
You are surprised that the grades matter to get into specific high schools in Norway, but where I live getting into high school is even harder: We need to pass an exam. If we don‘t pass it, we can not go to high school. And after that exam there is a probation period lasting one semester which we have to pass to stay in high school.
But I‘ll just explain our school system in general.
In Switzerland (I can only talk about Zurich, cause the education system varies a lot throughout the country):
1. Kindergarten (Kindergarden): For two years prior to 1st grade, from 4 to 6 years old. I can‘t really tell you how it is nowadays. When I was a kid it was mainly playing, but I know that it got more „schoolified“ since then.
2. Primarschule (Elementary school): 1st to 6th grade. After the first three years you usually change the teacher, so it consists of two 3 year blocks. from the 3rd grade (when I was a kid it was from 2nd grade) onwards you learn english, in 5th grade you start to learn French.
After that it gets a bit more complicated, cause there are two options:
1. You can go to the Sekundarschule (Secondary school) which lasts 3 years (7th to 9th grade) after which the mandatory school is finished.
2. You can take the exam to go to the Langzeitgymnasium (long term high school) which lasts 6 years. In the first two years of Langzeitgymnasium you have to learn Latin.
If you did not go to the Langzeitgymnasium you again have two options (it‘s a bit more complicated, there are other types of schools and options but I focus on the two most common paths):
1. You finish the 3 years of secondary school and then start a Lehre (apprenticeship) which lasts between 2 and 4 years. So you basically start to work and earn money, but during the apprenticeship you still have two to three days of school a week. After the apprenticeship you can work in the field of your apprenticeship. This is actually what most people do here. So yeah, most Swiss start working at around 16 years old.
2. After 8th or 9th grade you again have the chance to take an exam to go to high school. In the Kurzzeitgymnasium (short term high school), which means you skip the first two years of the Langzeitgymnasium (1st grade of Kurzzeitgymnasium is exactly the same as the 3rd grade of Langzeitgymnasium and you get the same diploma after both, so it does not really matter). In high school (3rd grade of the Langzeitgymnasium or 1st grade of Kurzzeitgymnasium) you can choose an additional foreign language. The options are: Italian, Spanish, Russian, Latin or Ancient Greek.
Something a bit funny: Another name for the high school in Switzerland is „Mittelschule“ which has the literal meaning „Middle school“. The swiss term „Hochschule“ (which literally means „high school“) refers to a university.
But yeah, after high school you have to take the Matura exam, which allows to study at a university. And here comes something I really like about our system: As long as you pass the Matura you can apply to almost every Swiss university and you will get admission to that university, no matter if you barely passed it or if had the best possible grades. This includes universities like the ETH, which is consistently ranked as one of the 10 best universities in the world.
There are some exceptions though: There are some private universities where this is not the case (but I don‘t think many Swiss people go there) and for medicine you need to pass an additional test (but the latter will probably change soon).
So yeah, in general you can say, the hardest step if you plan to go to university in Switzerland, is getting into high school. Most people who pass the entrance exam and „survive“ the probation period do also pass the Matura and if you passed the Matura you are guaranteed to get a place at a university (but depending on the subject you wanna study it will be hard to stay in, cause in really popular degrees they use the first year of university to sort out the people who are not good enough).
For the grades: Like in Norway our grades are 1 to 6. 1 being the worst, 6 the best. Unlike in Norway you need at least a 4 to pass.
And by the way: If you did not go to high school there are still other ways to get a Matura to go to university
In Finland we have grades from 4-10 (4 is failed, 8 is good and 9-10 is excellent). Kids have many tests but many kids like them because often parents and grandparents give money for good grades (8-10). They also study for the tests with the kids.
9th grade report card should be in total about average 7-8 to get to High School. After that nobody will care about their grades. You have to only graduate from High School and pass an entry exam to get to any University.
Here you need to have straight A's (6's) in all subjects in high school to get into medicine, just as an example. Really bad system because it doesn't make you any better equipped to be a good doctor in the future than one who has only B's (5's). it only shows that you were willing to study incredibly hard for a test.
6:05 imma tell you that how the teacher know how well the students in school are doing , its basically just a score from 0 to 100 😅
Our son (16) is at 'videregående' school and will be there for 3 years. He chose transport/logistics/electricity and welding the first year, and 2. and 3.rd year he'll have a more 'indepth' corriculum in either of these 'directions'. He'll deside during spring -25 where he'll go. And by autumn -25 he'll have the 2 final years. He's not sure on what directions he wants, but i think he'll choose transport/mechanics, where he will have a good chanse of getting a job when he's finished at age 19.
In Denmark its kinda the same (we are brothers after all) we have Folkeskole (public school I guess) and that is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9. grade. our grades are separated into indskolingen (primary school) 0.-3. grade, mellemtrinet (middel school) 4.-6. grade and udskolingen (highschool) 7.-9. grade. We dont get graded until 7. grade. (some schools only have up until 6. grade, but they will then have a different school that the kids will be sent to after 6. grade). After 9. grade you can decide if you wanna go to efterskole (boarding school) for a year or if you wanna go directly to gymnasium (you have to have a certain average in grades to get into different gymnasiums, but it will usually be around 6). and after gymnasium you can get higher education if you want.
This is not a perfect explanation its just a quick go through of the danish education system. :P
I come from Norway
To clarify on the start of the video. We usually translate barnehage to kindergarten, but in America kindergarten is the first year of what we call "barneskule/barneskole". Barnehage is what comes before American kindergarten. In barnehage, you are often divided into groups based on age. This can vary depending on where you go.
Barneskule/barneskole is also often divided into two. Grade 1-4 and 5-7. This also depends on the school, and in some cases the school might also be merged with an ungdomskule/ungdomskole (grade 8-10).
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- It seems that you've got things a bit mixed up...
I think the confusion stems from the fact that she didn't point out in the video that what we here in Norway call 'Førskolen' which is between the end of 'Kindergarten' and the start of the 1st grade of 'Elementary School'.
They call that 'Preschool' in the 'USA', comparatively speaking.
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@@BizzyX78 We don't have førskole in Norway anymore. (Unless I'm completely blind and have been lied to my whole life.) There were some changes some time before 2000.
Now, we have barnehage until you are 5/6 years old. This varies depending on when you are born during the year. Barnehage does have some minimal education, but not a part of the school system.When you get to 1st grade in Norway you are 5/6 years old. Then you will go to barneskule for 7 years until you are 12/13 years old.
From what I read online, they have something similar to barnehage until you turn 5 years old in America. After that you begin kindergarten (for 1 year?) and then you start school after that. But it doesn't seem like they split their classes up based on what year they are born, but instead they have a cutoff date?
I might be mistaken, so please correct me if I said anything wrong.
in denmark. yes english is from 4th grade. plus we get alot of it in from non-school sourses. like the internet and everyday life.
01:50 What she's saying is that there's Pre-school in Norway called Førskole, just like how it works in the USA - I assume, my older brother by 2 years went to Pre-school back in, uh, 1992/3? - you can send your kids to førskole so they get accustomed to how school will work, and have a chance of getting a leg-up on the other children that didn't go to førskole.
She's making a mistake using English names. We have Children's School, Youth School and Advanced School. High school means something entirely different in Norway and typically comes after Advanced School and is an alternative to college. We have a high school of police, nursing, agriculture, drama, sports, etc.
We have the right to get to go to a regular Highschool but we might not get our first choice when it comes to directions. The better grades you have the bigger chance to get your first choice. However, the requirements are usually not that high, if you only got D’s in middle school you have a pretty good chance getting your number 1.
You start at school when you're 6 years old. And it's like you let kids be kids
From my experience the grades from middle school weren’t super important, since if you just got average grades you would be able to basically get into any high school.
But now they have slightly changed the system to favor high schools closer to you. But you always get into a high school (it’s not like you won’t get accepted or anything). Also the education lever for the high schools is generally the same, and the curriculum is the same.
it seems like no one is mentioning it. in vidergående (highscool) if you pick one of the lines focused towards becoming an electrician for instance. you are in school for two years (with choices on the second year on what within electrician you want to work with) then the third and fourth year (if one would choose it) is apprentice (where you get a apprentice job at a company) with an exam at the end of the second year of being an apprentice (lærling) after that you get a "fagbrev" (degree certificate i guess). with that in hand you can now start looking for jobs and start your worklife. (the exam at the end of an apprentice, for me it was 1 week work with a practical solution and documentation (I went the IT line). i had a 40 page document describing my work, stressful week)
I don't think she's explaining Norwegian high school too well with her examples. There is a general academic-focused direction (which is 3 years), there's vocational-focused directions (which are 2 years of school, followed by 2 years of internship). You do have a sort of middle-ground type of thing, which allows for a mix of academics and other subjects (also 3 years), but it's still mainly an academic direction as you are meant to move on to higher education afterwards (just with a few less options for paths to pursue). You can also take an extra academic year (if you do vocational or middle-ground) to fill out the gaps if you change your mind about pursuing higher education later.
Because of competition for the spaces in the various directions, you have to apply to high school with your preferred directions ranked. It's not necessarily which high shcool you get into, but which direction you get into. Though you do have kids who go to high school in a different city and either have to have a long commute or live on their own in that city (which I did).
There's all sorts of vocational directions you can go for, it can be healthcare, social work, electrical, plumping, carpentry, hospitality, and a bunch of other things (it's a pretty long list). If you know you want to pursue one of those paths or you just aren't made for academics, they are great options to take. It gives you a quick path to a job, and there's always options to build upon it if you want to do more specialized things later on. And having that in your back pocket you always have something to fall back on if you need to. Like my niece went vocational, finished her internship and passed her final certification. Even though she intends to pursue a different career (within the food realm), having that certificate to lean back on is a major benefit to her.
I don't know what year she is talking about between kindergarten and 1st grade. You start in kindergarten when you're 1-2 years old (some religious people don't let their kids go to kindergarden at all and those kids are doomed to be picked on) and in the year you turn 6 (so if you're born in December you're 5 in August when school starts) you start school. 1st grade is all about learning the alphabet and some simple words and to write, and you learn some simple math like 2+2=4 and after Christmas you usually start to learn more advanced words to write and you should know how to read short texts. The kids also learn English and they start with numbers, colors and the alphabet and they learn songs like abc and colors of the rainbow. When they start 3rd grade their English is actually very good, and my niece actually sounds like the Queen of England when she speaks English as they learn Oxford English or the Queens English. When they're 12-13 they start middle school and get grades, and then when you're 15-16 you start high school. In middle school you can choose to learn another language like French, German, Spanish, Advanced English and some places you might also have a choice of sign language or Sami language. My niece that is 14 and speaks very good English and has a bookshelf full of English books that she read, and she also knows Spanish quite well, but it's more rare to know Russian or Ukrainian even though a lot of Ukrainian children now go to school here, but they needs to learn Norwegian to be able to communicate with their friends if they can't speak English. In high school you're told that it's your own responsibility to learn and do your homework and get good grades. People take school very seriously to have their first choice in higher education. If you attend the university to become a medical doctor you need to get some extra points to get in, so it's not for everyone unfortunately. It's hard even to become a teacher these days, before if you didn't get into the university or your first choice you could always just become a teacher or a kindergarten teacher, now it's as hard as it was to become a doctor before. You don't have to pay any money to go to university, but you can get a student scholarship and a student loan so you can get a place to live and get the books and all you need, as you will most likely have to move to a bigger city like Oslo, Bergen, Tromsø or Stavanger to go to university, but you can get higher education at the smallest little towns and places like Bø in Telemark. A lot of young people have a job beside school from they're 13-15 to be able to save money to move away to go to school and a lot of them also have a job when they go to higher education or university also as there isn't enough places for students to live, the school doesn't always have student apartments and it's very expensive to rent a place to live, you can get a 25 SQ.m apartment for like 7000 NOK a month in the most rural areas, but in Oslo it's most likely 14000 for the same. A lot of people don't have a rich family, but they are still able to go to school and get a well paid job when they're done so they don't have to be as poor as their family if they come from a family with no money. Education is the key to wellness for all, so I think America needs to give the kids the same as we have to be able to get people off the street and into business. Education shouldn't be just for the lucky students that get a scholarship if they don't have a wealthy family or the rich people, it should be for everyone, it's even written in your constitution that all men are created equal, so why don't people get the same rights. We pay more tax, but I know that my doctor or my kids teachers have 5-8 years of education, what I don't know is if they're from a wealthy family or not, and I don't care.
In Norway we also call our teachers by their first name like if your teachers name is Christian Andersen you don't call him Herr Andersen (Mr Andersen) you just call him Christian or even just Chris if he prefers that. In higher education you might need to call them their last name like Andersen, but most likely it's just Chris there also. When you get a job you also call your boss Chris instead of Herr (Mr) Andersen and you also call your friends parents by their first name. I'm old enough that I had to use the last name for some teachers, usually the older ones, but I actually asked one of the teachers what her name was and she told me, but told me to keep it a secret as she didn't like her name so she preferred Fru (Mrs) and her last name, but this is more than 30 years ago. I actually had to explain to some kids why the kids in American tv shows always use Mr and Mrs, some kids don't even know their teachers last name here 😂 I don't know if it's still as strict in America that you have to use the last name for all adult people. When I think about it it's so funny to me what I should have called my friends parents if they just had used their last name. I think I prefer first names. I always had some respect for them even though I was a wild kid, so it doesn't have to be as strict to get respect. In Norway we also respect our boss even though we go on a "hyttetur" with them or go to another country on a weekend trip with our colleagues including the boss. When we go on these trips we might even catch a ride with the boss if he or she lives the nearest to go to the bus or train, ferry or airplane if we don't drive all the way with the car. A lot of workplaces also have outdoor activities like going to sleep in a hammock in the woods somewhere, usually in the middle of nowhere 😂 and get eaten by mosquitoes and smell like a fireplace when you go home after not sleeping at all because your hammock fell down in the middle of the night and you ended up sleeping on the ground with 700000 ants and spiders and the owl howling from a tree nearby 😂 and you also saw a moose walk by. But we like to spend time with our colleagues that we spend 8 hours with 5 days a week, so why not also go on a long weekend starting Thursday night with those people. Nothing is more relaxing than getting to spend a whole weekend listening to Ragnhild from Regnskap talking about her boring life and Jarle from Economy getting too drunk and starting to cry over his wife leaving him. 😅 When you go to work on Monday you have to pretend like it never happened until some guy just can't hold his tongue and everyone is talking about it and how fun it was and you forget how many spiders and ants and owls it was as you just remember how fun it was, and maybe you even got to know Ragnhild a little better and can ask her about her cats and her birds and her latest yoga class. Maybe you understand better why Jarle is not as funny as he used to and you get to ask him if he needs any help with something. It's very good for the work environment. It doesn't mean it's all perfect, you might remember those ants for a long time so to speak.
I remember moving to 'ungdomsskolen' for my year 7-9. as in, 1-6 in the previous step. might have been some changes since then. I graduated in 98.
We don’t graduate and we don’t go to high school it’s hard to eksplane😢
You start with English in first grade at primary school, so when you get to middle school, you can choose four other languages if you wish, that is Spanish, French and German, and or you go on to expand English.
We used to start 1st grade the year you turn 7, and we had 6 grades in elementary school, followed by 3 in junior high.
In 1997 we had "Reform 97", everyone skipped one year to introduce 7 grades in elementary school.
And yeah, grades are introduced at 8th grade in junior high, but we do get corrected with "R" for "Riktig" (translate to correct) instead of grades.
alot has to do with when you get to be "Russ" at the end of Videregående Skole aka VGS different colours depending on the amount of years you did in highschool / VGS so it depends on edjucation route you could say ... mechanical / industrial, Culinary school and such are most likely 2 years but more education where it's imo very Math heavy is most likely 3 years idk if my explanation makes sense but yeah could also depend on the region / province in norway
17 years
Our grading system is 1 (F) to 6 (A), n to get into high school or university you have to have a higher average than their minimum requirement. So if you have 4 (C) in math, 5 (B) in english, 2 (E) in gym and 6 (A) in science your average is (4+5+2+6=17, 17/4 subjects = 4,25). So if the school had a minimum requirement of "4,6", with these grades you would not be able to get into that school. And if there are alot of people wanting to go to one particular school the minimum requirement gets raised and only the once with the highest grades get in. But we have a lot of different high schools to choose from so usually everyone gets to go to a high school, but not always their top choice.
The division between 1.-4. grade and 5.-7. grade differs a lot. In many schools the teacher follows the same class for seven years.
norwegian school is the best