They're not really that much of a problem. They perform the role of people being able to learn the map considering there is no offline mode. There are bigger issues than quick kits in my opinion. Until all the maps become available in normal or you can learn the maps offline They serve a purpose
+1 It's hard to go into armory or tv wearing high-ish gear when you don't these maps yet and you're risking a lot. While going just 101k there you are a sitting duck. It's a complete different story when you know the map and have thousands of games under your belt. EDIT: also, I'd love Dev updating items value in-game in regard to the current pricing. For example: "nice" M16 with silencer isn't worth 100-130k but 160-200k. There are less and less weapons that you can do under 100k. Same with other eq. What's your thoughts on that Ibo?
You’re right. I only used them for learning maps then actually took a good load out once I felt comfortable and I play solo only and haven’t really felt like I wasn’t able to extract with the same value I brought in.(edit) I will also use them for ammo/gear and just extract asap to use it for a good kit I build myself
I think if you choose a quick kit, your safe case should be disabled until you load into the raid so that you can't swap t5-6 ammo. Then at least you give budget players the option to go into lockdown, though they're at a disadvantage, thus the trade off for using the quick kit.
You're looking at this as though money is the goal of the game. I don't get why people play for Koen. If that's your goal, just scav and run naked normals all the time and you can't possibly fail. Rank is the true purpose of the game for anyone with even a little bit of skill. It offers extra gear, skins, banners, titles, and bragging rights that you actually did something relatively skillful compared to just picking up loot. If you value rank above Koen as your goal, quick kits are not only not an issue, they make your life substantially easier, as they are basically a free kill most of the time.
If the rank system was balanced and didnt force most players to rat to get the highest rank id agree with you, but because the ranking system is based off kills and surviving any braindead idiot can prone out on any map, farm kills risking nothing and extract without looting to farm rank, i think the youtuber casual wardog explains it best, and I personally cant have fun like that
How is this an issue? Some ppl really can't game as much as others and the QK is their to let them play LD and keeps that mode alive and not just full of t 5 t6 players who are scared of FZ. The next big problem is they need to fix auto match to put you in a team always or tell you no team found back out or solo. That's what stopped me from playing. Lobby full of afk team s quick join putting you in normal when you're on LD or Fz those are real issues.
Sorrry dying to a quick kit makes no difference, you would of died if he had a better gun and better ammo… killing quick kit people just gives you faster map full clear to loot up and tetris…
@@Ibo.gaming I don't think that's really true. I've met plenty of t6 with an sj sat in a bush or waiting around corners. That isn't a quick kit uniqueness
to solve this problem, im playing forbidden mode only, i get tired of those fking quick kits with nothing to loot, they are the impostors of lockdown mode.
could be a level system as well, taking account of their ranked points and level (for example lvl 20 and up), looking at their general stats could help as well, this is just my thought on it.
I agree, I only played lockdown and I only find quick kits, which don't give me any profit. Now I've turned to forbiddens for this reason, I spend more money on ammunition than I earn by killing them.
i have noticed quite a spike in RAT behavior since the last update nerfing thermals. the fights were feeling SUPER fun before. people were rushing points and going all out for fights on farm and it just felt great. made me a better player too no doubt over the past month. however, the last few days i have had INSANE ratting encounters that have left me scratching my head like "what the hell happened?! people are camping corners and bushes again and not even moving out of spawn anymore?!" what has happened??? was it timmys with thermal and now that they cant use the thermals to feel powerful they have resorted to niche camping spots to destroy solo or duo squads? its been a wild ride the last couple days with the rats in my experience. anyone else notice?
Just limiting the safe container when using quick kit is enough, for me finding T6 people on lockdowns are way annoying, they should just limit the loot to 400k on lockdowns, the quick kits are only 5 per week I really doubt this has this big of a impact that you are talking about.
Idk what he is ranting about, quick kit with a shotgun 200/shell (2-3 leg shots) or a big RPM sub-machine gun with a dirt cheap HS ammo is perfectly viable for killing overconfident T6 guys and taking their stuff. Or you can assemble such hobo kits manually, with barely anything to lose and a lot to potentially win.
no one has even said anything about the future of the game - I am actually one of the many supporters for the game. But this is a small issues which is affecting the way people play
I don't mind quick kits but I agree that they should not allow you to go into lockdown using them. I think theres a good reason for them to exist in the game but it does present some problems for the lockdown modes.
yes but these new players need to use these quick kits on normal and build koen and stash value not just jump into lockdown and start ratting to get a kill for loot
Arena Breakout. Like Tarkov Is a game of taking everything. If you kill a player and take absolutely nothing then. Yes It was not worth killing them but that's the call you make. Yes people will look for one shot kills. Yes people will sit In a bush or a corner and wait. If you kill them and take nothing then the expense you pay Is quite literally self inflicted.
Quick kits are kinda lame but until there’s an offline mode or a PvE mode, how are new players supposed to learn the map? Extraction shooters die when the learning curve becomes too sweaty. For now quick kits are needed. I would much rather have an offline mode PvE set up but that may never come. Personally I love getting a lobby full of quick kits. I know in about 10 minutes I’m going to have the freedom to be a loot goblin all over the lobby. Yeah I’ll die sometimes but that’s literally the game.
The latest patch will disable your ability to ADS when in a bush. If your extraction shooter survival game's playerbase can't deal with people using cover, you shouldn't be in the genre.
So your argument boils down to you don’t want regular ppl using quick kits in better modes because their loot isn’t up to your standard? There’s no way to preview, play offline, or normal mode on TV & armory, and chads run amuck around those maps. You expect noobs or new players like us to risk our little bit of good gear to try lockdown?
Jesus Holy Christ…. PC gamers complain about every single thing, you guys are basically man babies at this point 🤦♂️🤦♂️… Complaining about quick kits too??, the same quick kits that’s been in mobile version without any complaints?? You guys complain about how the game is designed to make u spend irl money to buy koens (which is blatantly false), but now that they added quick kits so you don’t always spend koens to go in a raid, you still complain about it??
You refer to people as pc gamers, what too much of a baby to get a pc to game? LOL damn you must have no personal possessions in life. Maybe get a job?
@@metabang03 Are you this d@ft?? I had to specify by saying PC gamers because they aren’t the same meaning as mobile gamers… The game has been in mobile for up to two years now & it’s player base don’t complain about everything just as you man babies cry about 🤦♂️… How does my comment indicate I don’t have a pc myself?? Is this best reply you got because it’s dumb af, you’re literally complaining about players being able to get in lockdown with basic quick kits, that’s the most “man baby” complaint I’ve ever heard of… You complain about alarm sounds, u complain about mosin 1-taps, u complain about monetization, there’s nothing u guys haven’t complained about, if the game is really that bad with so many complaints then why not just stop playing it?… And lastly yes, PC gamers are people but not all people are pc gamers, this is why just saying people in my statement wouldn’t accurately describe the set of people I’m referring to….
who is going to Sherpa in lockdown mode I am Sherpaing new players into the game and they cant even get into lockdown because lockdown mode is level locked. mate i have over 60m you think i would run a quick kit in lockdown ?
@ it is actually because it kind of promotes more playing from the users, I feel like the game is very hard and it’s an incentive for players but so far not for those who kill them
Such a good point I usually kill like 6 o 7 players per match, in normal mode I mean, and 4 of 6 are quick kit and its kinda a$$ becouse ive spent so much in ammo just to kill few QK's and very low return
lock down you are meant to be making some good money but you go in and spend more money on ammo because the kills you get are not worth looting when they are quick kit
The Campers are not the Problem. They will camp with an other weapon or there own setup around 100k/300k. Yeah its not nice that u have nothing to loose but for me these guys are free Ranked points.
I believe quick kits are not the problem. It's the basic one that is allowed in lockdown that is the problem. But really what is a quickkit differten from going into lockdown with a daiper armor + dildo helmet (with intergrated hearing aids, the cheap one) and going in with a mosin or some other rat gun. Also then you are barely scratching the 100k mark. Quick kits are not really a problem imo.
@Ibo.gaming but than again, what is different from just slapping on the cheap lvl 3 armor rig and cheap lvl 3 helmet with a mosin to just barely make 100k. That is no difference to me
its just sad that this meta exist now i play on my 800k kit every single round and i get 1 tapped from a quick kit a 40k mosin and a 5k bullet for 40-50% of my deaths and i dont even get rewarded by killing them while i risk to get 1 bullet if i dare to peak in my head... my suggestion is a bit hard but no red ammo beside AP from SJ16 should 1 tap a tier 6 helmet
So you're Robin Hood? You dress up for 800k in a yellow raid to give your gear to the needy players with a Mosin. Wow, if you also buy Koens for real money, then you're some kind of hero.
Its crazy how these streams are making this quick kits such a big problem for game. Dude you have 6 kits available that means you have all yours already WTF
I agree with your statement BUT, we need to seperate juice kits also. I mean, why devs add forbidden mode when people do forbidden on lockdown. Devs need to make caps to all modes like: - Normal: < 100k - Lockdown: 100k & 300k - Forbidden: 300k + Because i cant do anything when i dont know how to play i only die and cant profit :/ That's annoying also.
@@Shalar-n6s No, ppl who wants to play tier 5/6 should go on forbidden to fight with the others t5/6 not smashing tier 3/4. Look how lockdown TV Station looks, no matter who u fighting is always juiced guy and I cant do anything about it.
Imagine your life being so boring you find reasons to cry over shit like this lol. If you don't like it don't play the game, won't bother us none we won't even notice your gone
I quit playing because quick kits are used so fucking annoying I am wearing tier 5 or tier 6 for lockdown, and it's so fucking time consuming to try to make a team at, atleast, tier 4. So fucking time consuming!
They're not really that much of a problem. They perform the role of people being able to learn the map considering there is no offline mode. There are bigger issues than quick kits in my opinion. Until all the maps become available in normal or you can learn the maps offline They serve a purpose
+1
It's hard to go into armory or tv wearing high-ish gear when you don't these maps yet and you're risking a lot. While going just 101k there you are a sitting duck. It's a complete different story when you know the map and have thousands of games under your belt.
EDIT: also, I'd love Dev updating items value in-game in regard to the current pricing. For example: "nice" M16 with silencer isn't worth 100-130k but 160-200k. There are less and less weapons that you can do under 100k. Same with other eq. What's your thoughts on that Ibo?
Yeah imo armory and TV station should be released for normals with less saves and the problem would be solved
I should add if you use a quick kit you shouldn't be able to bring ammo in your secure container, i agree with that sentiment
You’re right. I only used them for learning maps then actually took a good load out once I felt comfortable and I play solo only and haven’t really felt like I wasn’t able to extract with the same value I brought in.(edit) I will also use them for ammo/gear and just extract asap to use it for a good kit I build myself
Guy is salty because a rat can kill him with a 100k kit.
And it's still not guarantee, that rat will get that loot.
I think if you choose a quick kit, your safe case should be disabled until you load into the raid so that you can't swap t5-6 ammo. Then at least you give budget players the option to go into lockdown, though they're at a disadvantage, thus the trade off for using the quick kit.
That is a really good idea! I will share this to the devs.
the separate modes are a complete joke if you are able to use case with t5-t6 bullets along a QK..
You're looking at this as though money is the goal of the game. I don't get why people play for Koen. If that's your goal, just scav and run naked normals all the time and you can't possibly fail.
Rank is the true purpose of the game for anyone with even a little bit of skill. It offers extra gear, skins, banners, titles, and bragging rights that you actually did something relatively skillful compared to just picking up loot.
If you value rank above Koen as your goal, quick kits are not only not an issue, they make your life substantially easier, as they are basically a free kill most of the time.
If the rank system was balanced and didnt force most players to rat to get the highest rank id agree with you, but because the ranking system is based off kills and surviving any braindead idiot can prone out on any map, farm kills risking nothing and extract without looting to farm rank, i think the youtuber casual wardog explains it best, and I personally cant have fun like that
How is this an issue? Some ppl really can't game as much as others and the QK is their to let them play LD and keeps that mode alive and not just full of t 5 t6 players who are scared of FZ.
The next big problem is they need to fix auto match to put you in a team always or tell you no team found back out or solo. That's what stopped me from playing. Lobby full of afk team s quick join putting you in normal when you're on LD or Fz those are real issues.
You’re speaking truth. This video was a hot mess.
Sorrry dying to a quick kit makes no difference, you would of died if he had a better gun and better ammo… killing quick kit people just gives you faster map full clear to loot up and tetris…
no because the people that are using these quick kits are playing in a bush or sitting in the corner waiting for you to walk past them
@@Ibo.gaming I don't think that's really true. I've met plenty of t6 with an sj sat in a bush or waiting around corners. That isn't a quick kit uniqueness
to solve this problem, im playing forbidden mode only, i get tired of those fking quick kits with nothing to loot, they are the impostors of lockdown mode.
yea thats one way to solve it thats what i do as well !
Love how community only complaining and complaining we got t7 nerf ammo nerf and others but still ABI IS DYING...
I love the idea of quick kits but as you said, the main flaw is that when you kill someone using it that its just not worth the ammo you used.
I feel limiting each level of quick kit will fix this issue !
could be a level system as well, taking account of their ranked points and level (for example lvl 20 and up), looking at their general stats could help as well, this is just my thought on it.
I agree, I only played lockdown and I only find quick kits, which don't give me any profit.
Now I've turned to forbiddens for this reason, I spend more money on ammunition than I earn by killing them.
which is a issue to the market and the price of ammo and gear
i have noticed quite a spike in RAT behavior since the last update nerfing thermals. the fights were feeling SUPER fun before. people were rushing points and going all out for fights on farm and it just felt great. made me a better player too no doubt over the past month. however, the last few days i have had INSANE ratting encounters that have left me scratching my head like "what the hell happened?! people are camping corners and bushes again and not even moving out of spawn anymore?!" what has happened??? was it timmys with thermal and now that they cant use the thermals to feel powerful they have resorted to niche camping spots to destroy solo or duo squads? its been a wild ride the last couple days with the rats in my experience. anyone else notice?
Just limiting the safe container when using quick kit is enough, for me finding T6 people on lockdowns are way annoying, they should just limit the loot to 400k on lockdowns, the quick kits are only 5 per week I really doubt this has this big of a impact that you are talking about.
exactly
I go in, have fun, extract or die, repeat. idc if its quick its or juicers. less complaining, more fun. it's a free to play game ffs.
Love it
Having fun in a game? We can't have that. 👿😂
Needa raise minimum lockdown entry in TV Station to 300k+, or make it so quick-kits can only be used on begginer maps like Farm / Valley
that could be a good fix !
DB with slugs, the quick kit equalizer.
2k in slugs vs 5k in meds is a easy choice for me
Idk what he is ranting about, quick kit with a shotgun 200/shell (2-3 leg shots) or a big RPM sub-machine gun with a dirt cheap HS ammo is perfectly viable for killing overconfident T6 guys and taking their stuff. Or you can assemble such hobo kits manually, with barely anything to lose and a lot to potentially win.
i was about to say, i run some of these kits without QK, types 8 and slugs in a DB baby
Are you joking😂 quit whining about nothing..... the future of ABI is very bright.
no one has even said anything about the future of the game - I am actually one of the many supporters for the game. But this is a small issues which is affecting the way people play
I don't mind quick kits but I agree that they should not allow you to go into lockdown using them.
I think theres a good reason for them to exist in the game but it does present some problems for the lockdown modes.
When you are newbie, runout of money and every week they give u 5 chance to do it again instead of grind from zero
yes but these new players need to use these quick kits on normal and build koen and stash value not just jump into lockdown and start ratting to get a kill for loot
I don't see quick kits as much of a problem to be honest... Most of the time I get blasted by big tanky juicers, don't really see these guys myself
I just stopped playing lockdown. One of the reasons is because of the quick kit players. It's either normal or forbidden.
I am not wanting to play lock down as much now
Arena Breakout. Like Tarkov Is a game of taking everything. If you kill a player and take absolutely nothing then. Yes It was not worth killing them but that's the call you make.
Yes people will look for one shot kills. Yes people will sit In a bush or a corner and wait. If you kill them and take nothing then the expense you pay Is quite literally self inflicted.
just play the game. the guys with quickquit are like punching bags.
agreed hahah !
Now I have to try this on lockdown 🤣🤣🤣I am new in the game so, I have to try the hard way. Thanks! 👍
bring quick kits isnt going to be the best way to rank up
Quick Kits and bringing in good ammo is pretty fun, grubby but fun!
very grubby !
Quick kits are kinda lame but until there’s an offline mode or a PvE mode, how are new players supposed to learn the map? Extraction shooters die when the learning curve becomes too sweaty. For now quick kits are needed. I would much rather have an offline mode PvE set up but that may never come. Personally I love getting a lobby full of quick kits. I know in about 10 minutes I’m going to have the freedom to be a loot goblin all over the lobby. Yeah I’ll die sometimes but that’s literally the game.
The latest patch will disable your ability to ADS when in a bush. If your extraction shooter survival game's playerbase can't deal with people using cover, you shouldn't be in the genre.
So your argument boils down to you don’t want regular ppl using quick kits in better modes because their loot isn’t up to your standard? There’s no way to preview, play offline, or normal mode on TV & armory, and chads run amuck around those maps. You expect noobs or new players like us to risk our little bit of good gear to try lockdown?
You have a good point but i feel that basic kits should not be allowed to enter into lockdown mode. you can use the advanced quick kits
if you think the kit you have on in the vid is for lockdown thats just crazy
I use this in lockdown and I also use this in forbidden
your opinion is right I strongly agree with what you said It shouldn't be as high as lockdown Value
Thank you for agreeing with me I think its a good way to fix the lock down mode !
Jesus Holy Christ…. PC gamers complain about every single thing, you guys are basically man babies at this point 🤦♂️🤦♂️… Complaining about quick kits too??, the same quick kits that’s been in mobile version without any complaints?? You guys complain about how the game is designed to make u spend irl money to buy koens (which is blatantly false), but now that they added quick kits so you don’t always spend koens to go in a raid, you still complain about it??
Frr😂
You refer to people as pc gamers, what too much of a baby to get a pc to game? LOL damn you must have no personal possessions in life. Maybe get a job?
@@metabang03 Are you this d@ft?? I had to specify by saying PC gamers because they aren’t the same meaning as mobile gamers… The game has been in mobile for up to two years now & it’s player base don’t complain about everything just as you man babies cry about 🤦♂️… How does my comment indicate I don’t have a pc myself?? Is this best reply you got because it’s dumb af, you’re literally complaining about players being able to get in lockdown with basic quick kits, that’s the most “man baby” complaint I’ve ever heard of… You complain about alarm sounds, u complain about mosin 1-taps, u complain about monetization, there’s nothing u guys haven’t complained about, if the game is really that bad with so many complaints then why not just stop playing it?… And lastly yes, PC gamers are people but not all people are pc gamers, this is why just saying people in my statement wouldn’t accurately describe the set of people I’m referring to….
@metabang03 not everyone wants to play on a m&kb ya know
@@metabang03 From ur pfp it is evident you don’t touch grass enough, go get a life man-baby 🤦♂️
“Quick kits should be locked” but I bet he’d be pissed if he can’t Sherpa in lockdown with the same quick kits. Bro is real biased.
who is going to Sherpa in lockdown mode I am Sherpaing new players into the game and they cant even get into lockdown because lockdown mode is level locked. mate i have over 60m you think i would run a quick kit in lockdown ?
Better guns or better armor but maybe one free quick kit per day for everyone since most everyone uses all their quick kits on Monday
everyone who has 0 gets 5 free ones is not cool !
@ it is actually because it kind of promotes more playing from the users, I feel like the game is very hard and it’s an incentive for players but so far not for those who kill them
Such a good point
I usually kill like 6 o 7 players per match, in normal mode I mean, and 4 of 6 are quick kit and its kinda a$$ becouse ive spent so much in ammo just to kill few QK's and very low return
lock down you are meant to be making some good money but you go in and spend more money on ammo because the kills you get are not worth looting when they are quick kit
I think they are quite good as is. If others can use it so can you. So its even.
nah keep qk but idk some wierd but no real fix besides making them not going into lockdown wich is just unfair i see people dying to scavs alot more
they can but you have to use the one which is worth 250k not the basic one !
The Campers are not the Problem. They will camp with an other weapon or there own setup around 100k/300k. Yeah its not nice that u have nothing to loose but for me these guys are free Ranked points.
yes thats one way to look
I believe quick kits are not the problem. It's the basic one that is allowed in lockdown that is the problem.
But really what is a quickkit differten from going into lockdown with a daiper armor + dildo helmet (with intergrated hearing aids, the cheap one) and going in with a mosin or some other rat gun. Also then you are barely scratching the 100k mark. Quick kits are not really a problem imo.
Yes that the basic kits are able to come into lockdown which is the issue
@Ibo.gaming but than again, what is different from just slapping on the cheap lvl 3 armor rig and cheap lvl 3 helmet with a mosin to just barely make 100k. That is no difference to me
Quick kits are perfectly fine imo
its just sad that this meta exist now i play on my 800k kit every single round and i get 1 tapped from a quick kit a 40k mosin and a 5k bullet for 40-50% of my deaths and i dont even get rewarded by killing them while i risk to get 1 bullet if i dare to peak in my head... my suggestion is a bit hard but no red ammo beside AP from SJ16 should 1 tap a tier 6 helmet
cuz we all know the fal m61 meta is also disgusting boring when even sura says this
So you're Robin Hood? You dress up for 800k in a yellow raid to give your gear to the needy players with a Mosin. Wow, if you also buy Koens for real money, then you're some kind of hero.
@@cmenypko sense where?
Atlast someone else noticed it
Ye Its become very annoying for me when I am playing locked down mode !
@@Ibo.gaming yeah I agree It's not worth fighting them at all in lockdown
They need to fix it by locking them to modes !
@@Ibo.gaming likewise, cant even count how many times it also happened to me
Its crazy how these streams are making this quick kits such a big problem for game. Dude you have 6 kits available that means you have all yours already WTF
yea i have used them to teach new players how to play the game teach them how to loot the map and show them around.
@@Ibo.gaming So you doing it is ok but you have a problem when others do it o.O
Disagree. Two things:
You have a point.
Cry about it.
I agree with your statement BUT, we need to seperate juice kits also. I mean, why devs add forbidden mode when people do forbidden on lockdown. Devs need to make caps to all modes like:
- Normal: < 100k
- Lockdown: 100k & 300k
- Forbidden: 300k +
Because i cant do anything when i dont know how to play i only die and cant profit :/
That's annoying also.
I think they will be address !
That would be so stupid😂 that would make everyone play forbidden like come on a decent gun is over 100k let’s be real
@@Shalar-n6s No, ppl who wants to play tier 5/6 should go on forbidden to fight with the others t5/6 not smashing tier 3/4. Look how lockdown TV Station looks, no matter who u fighting is always juiced guy and I cant do anything about it.
its perfectly fine lol, u maybe got ratted by some quick kits and then make a video about it
Nah no issue here I always run level 4 plus and usually m4 not that many quick kits.
Just play stop complaining
Imagine your life being so boring you find reasons to cry over shit like this lol. If you don't like it don't play the game, won't bother us none we won't even notice your gone
I quit playing because quick kits are used so fucking annoying I am wearing tier 5 or tier 6 for lockdown, and it's so fucking time consuming to try to make a team at, atleast, tier 4. So fucking time consuming!
I think alot of people are in the same boat, which i wish was not the case because this game is a really good game and has alot of potential
so you can run t5-6 in lockdown lmao
yea and get leg meta and die to someone risking nothing at all and if you were to kill them you get nothing in return