Nobody else I've listened is teaching the text from this perspective - Sproule, McArthur, Chan, LeBoutilier, Heitzig, all teach this parable as if it's EXCLUSIVELY referring to Evangelism. I listened to Osteen and he didn't even stay on the field for this one haha. But you're taking this scripture and making it for the believer today, not yesterday and I really appreciate it. To look at this and say "I've been born again, BUT I've got work to do in way of preparing my heart for God's continuous revelation of His goodness and plan for my life through His word"... thank you!
Yes, I enjoyed it! So many ways to see it. I looked at the seeds as people placed on the earth. Ppl born at various levels some reach beyond their situation and grow to be able to save others and some are unbelievers, babes in Christ or believers never saved or baptized that don’t mature or get (thorn) choked up into the world systems and never know the word. I listen to as many teachers as I can too. I only go to Joel Olsteen for prosperity lukewarm short cuts. 😅
Been there with my grandparents working in the field back in West va. Now a pastor and learning More of our father love . The Holy spirit is leading me and Jesus is showing me the way. Love ya brother. Thank you
I have the responsibility to be Good Ground as a Believer and Follower of Jesus Christ. Lord, help me to identify and remove the rocks that may be in my field.
Thank you very much. Your teaching is very good. I can now explain this parable to someone else and most importantly ask the Holy Spirit to show me the rocks in my heart and ask Him to remove them
I think verse 9 explains why it's the parable of the sower. Jesus is the sower, he will tell Everyone his Good News, and wants His disciples to do the same. God will sort out the rest. As humans searching for connection to God, we think of this parable as how we can apply it to ourselves. Which one are we? But I believe the main message is that Jesus would tell all that could hear, and only some would truly believe.
I bless God for that Cc! There are few things better than the jolt of delight when you see all of these deeper dimensions and nuances of what God is up to in the text.
That's actually one of the things an ancient agrarian society would've understood about soil but that flies right over our modern heads. Soil is a living thing. It erodes. It washes away. It gets compacted. Good farmers know soil needs to be rested, covered, and given boundaries. There are times when the ground needs to rest, recover, and cease producing. The phrase from Psalm 1:3 about "yielding its fruit in season" suggests the same thing. There are seasons when production would be the opposite of faithfulness. In his memoir The Pastor, Eugene Peterson wrote, "Didn’t I know by now that growth, any growth-but especially character growth, spiritual growth, church growth, body-of-Christ growth, soul growth-had periods of dormancy?" (Eugene Peterson, The Pastor: A Memoir (New York: HarperOne, 2011), 207.) In our pragmatic, productivity obsessed culture, it's tempting to view rest and dormancy as though "nothing's happening." But our best work emerges from rest.
The soils are the condition of the condition of the human heart. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. Circumcision is cutting away of the flesh. A physical representation of the work of the Holly Ghost.
From the heart the mouth speaks. See what He wrote on it? Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.-Mathew 7:21 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.-John 6:35-40 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.-John 20:29 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.-John 3:16
Thank you for this! For years I've been struggling to understand the salvation message in this text. So many seeds grew, but only one produced crops. Was that the only one saved?? But it wasn't the only one to grow... Now, I get it. This isn't about salvation! Its about receiving God's word. His word planted well produces fruit for me and for others. Beware of rocks and be ready to receive God's word. So good. Thx!
Sorry. But it does involve salvation. The sower is an evangelist. The seed is the Gospel. The evangelist shares the Gospel with everyone. Listen to Jesus' explanation about the first soil: "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom (the Gospel) and DOES NOT UNDERSTAND IT (because they don't have the Spirit of God, 1 Cor 2:14) the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path." 1 Cor 2:14 proves that people who don't understand the Word of the kingdom, do not have the Spirit of God, meaning, they have not been born again. This is what 1 Cor 2:14 says: "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
A teaching is like a bowl of porridge. Sometimes the porridge is old and stale and not palatable. Sometimes the porridge is served up with no cream and it does nor go down well. Sometimes it is served up lukewarm and is not appetizing, so is not eaten. But the good porridge which is served up hot with good cream and a spoon of honey not only goes down well but is often remembered later as a very good meal.
The more I watch these clips about the Parable of The Sower. I now think ( in relation to my dream ) Loretta represented not just The Good Path but The Good Soil. As if to say - If I plant my seeds with someone like her ( of good soil - soul - ) then I shall have a good crop - great reward and not someone who is of hard stony ground or shallow ground or thorny ground. This really AWAKENS me this message. Why else would I have such a DREAM ?? IT IS A MESSAGE. A message for ANYONE to learn from.
The true meaning of the parable of the sower is this: when anyone hears the message regarding the Kingdom and does not understand it - the evil one (the selfhood) snatches away what was sown in his heart; this is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown on rocky ground - this is he who hears the message and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself - but endures for a while - and when tribulation or persecutions come on account of the message - immediately he falls away. As for what was sown among thorns - this is he who hears the message - but the cares of the world and the delight in riches - choke the message and it bears no fruit. As for what was sown on good soil - this is he who hears and receives the message and understands it; he indeed bears fruit - and yields - in one case a hundredfold - in another - sixty - and another thirty fold.
You mention the rocky places of a field acting as landmarks between two families, is this what Deuteronomy and Proverbs refer to when it says never remove landmarks?
We don't typically share the slides as many of the images we use are copyrighted material from others, but if there's something in particular in the slides you're hoping to get your hands on, I'd be happy to see what I can do to help.
Hello there! Yes! Traditionally it has been called the parable of the sower. But as Brad mentioned in the teaching, the parable is more about the soils than the sower. Hence, many scholars are now referring to it as the parable of the soils.
Can you discern it? And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.-Luke 10:30 Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the Lord is your strength.-Nehemiah 8:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.-John 10:10 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.-John 10:1 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.-Isaiah 55:13 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:-Mathew 13:7 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.-Luke 10:36-37 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.-Galatians 5:14
It seems your emphasis on the soils is representing different kinds of believers IN the world. But the context is IN the Kingdom of God and the seed is the Gospel Word. Believers accept the Word are created new, spiritually perfect and yield fruit. To interpret the parable as you are teaching promotes works to get into the Kingdom, which is impossible.
Hey Brett, the emphasis in the teaching wasn't on "working" your way into the kingdom. It was on the responsibility we have to prepare our hearts to be receptive to the word of God so that we may faithfully walk them out in our lives. "Works" don't save us. Faith does. But "works" are important in demonstrating that one's faith is real (Matthew 7:21; Ephesians 2:8-10; James 2:14-26).
@@WalkingTheText Your emphasis is different soils for different believers. That implies works to the layman (try harder). I understand your explanation and it can apply that way but why take the parable beyond it's contextual meaning? It's confusing. We agree salvation by grace not works. And thanks for the reply; but address my actual point in interpretation if you will.
@@uview1 Hi Brett. My name is Brad Nelson, and I'm the content director at Walking the Text. As I read your question and the prior responses, it seems there's agreement on the fact that "works" don't save us. Yes, we're justified by grace through faith and not by works. Nevertheless, discipleship is the ongoing process of being apprenticed to the way of Jesus, growing into His likeness by our partnership and participation with the Holy Spirit's activity in our lives. Discipleship isn't the finish line. It's the starting line. If believers "accept the word and are created new, spiritually perfect," then how are we to make sense of Peter's denial of Jesus? He's received the word (Matthew 16:16) and yet it seems the Holy Spirit is still actively engaged in bringing him to complete newness. He's a disciple in process. This is where N.T. Wright's concept of "inaugurated eschatology" is so helpful. Jesus's resurrection has saved those who believe and follow him, yes, but the full working out of that new creation is still in process. Some scholars/theologians liken this to the role of D-Day in WWII. The decisive battle had been won, but there was still work to be done to bring things to completion. The rabbinic tradition of speaking of 4 kinds of disciple-I believe-speaks to the participation (or refusal to participate) with the Holy Spirit in the process of sanctification of those who are in the Kingdom. There's another element to your question that I think poses an interesting or challenging take on how Jesus speaks of the kingdom, and that comes from the parable of the wheat and the weeds. The context is a parable about the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 13:24-30). So, if I'm following your line of questioning correctly, we would also have to think this parable is about those who are IN the kingdom of God/heaven. But then Jesus speaks of an enemy engaged in an act of agricultural sabotage. So, does that mean there are some planted IN the kingdom who are planted there by the enemy? And this is where I think it's critical to take a step back and remember that, contextually speaking, parables aren't meant to be read so literally from top to bottom. Klyne Snodgrass's book Stories with Intent does a fantastic job getting at this aspect of parables. Instead, it seems the point is not to be so worried about who's in and who's out. The kingdom is going to have a lot of gray, and it's best to leave the judging to God, and in the meantime, to simply focus on growing. I'm curious to know if this is helpful and if it addresses your question?
@@bradnelson8337 Hello. Of course discipleship is an ongoing process. But the parable is about people in the world, only some of which become believers (good soil). I'll get in to your tangent. At salvation, we are given Christ's Spirit. Our spirit as One made new by the Holy Spirit (2Cor 5:17). Your example of Peter's denial is him acting in his flesh. And actually although the Spirit was active, this is prior to the Holy Spirit residing in believers (the Church). Christ in us is perfect, but our flesh is not and will perish. We will be given new bodies at resurrection. You know this. Regardless, there are other Kingdom parables like The Hidden Treasure and The Pearl of Great Price addressing good works and rewards as the believer matures, denying the flesh and becoming more Christlike. The rabbinic tradition and Snodgrass you mention is interesting but misapplied to the soils parable since there is only one good soil representing a believer. It is about the Kingdom of Heaven growing in terms of how it's being built. Seed is spread throughout the land (world) but only a portion takes root and grows (believers that multiply unto more believers). Then each Kingdom parable provides added info building upon the other. Proper interpretations lead to a greater overall picture and understanding about the Kingdom program that Jesus instituted. You aren't allowing the thought that you misinterpreted the parable, and that's why I questioned this video. Your response required me to expound the scripture again which also reinforced my understanding. I wish you could hear the parable correctly and not teach it otherwise. Thank you sincerely for the consideration.
You ask God to show you the rocks in your life, because you see rocks as sin, but by asking you already know what the sin in your life is. So instead of asking to see something you already see as rocks, aka sin. Is it is sin that is common to man? Seek and pray with your elders. In your family. If it is the sin that leads to death (aka= not doing as Romans 10:9 requires us to do. Believe, confess, And you will be saved.
Good teaching. But while it might be clever to say it's not the "parable of the sower" but instead the "parable of the soils," it should be remembered that Jesus Himself called it THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER.
The first group were not saved. The second and third group were saved but not fruitful. The fourth group were saved and fruitful. Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of eternal life to all who trust Him alone for salvation. That means: Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.
the title is about the farmer .... what about if the farmer has one of those heart conditions .... and people who are listening to the farmer will get more of what they see (in farmer’s life) more than of what they listen ?🤔 .... words show what the farmer knows but acts show what each farmer lives .... easy to talk, hard to practice .... 🤓☕️
Discussion questions can be found here: bit.ly/parableofthesoilspt1
Nobody else I've listened is teaching the text from this perspective - Sproule, McArthur, Chan, LeBoutilier, Heitzig, all teach this parable as if it's EXCLUSIVELY referring to Evangelism. I listened to Osteen and he didn't even stay on the field for this one haha. But you're taking this scripture and making it for the believer today, not yesterday and I really appreciate it. To look at this and say "I've been born again, BUT I've got work to do in way of preparing my heart for God's continuous revelation of His goodness and plan for my life through His word"... thank you!
Thanks for your kind words. We've all got work to do. So glad to be doing that work alongside you!
Yes, I enjoyed it! So many ways to see it.
I looked at the seeds as people placed on the earth. Ppl born at various levels some reach beyond their situation and grow to be able to save others and some are unbelievers, babes in Christ or believers never saved or baptized that don’t mature or get (thorn) choked up into the world systems and never know the word.
I listen to as many teachers as I can too. I only go to Joel Olsteen for prosperity lukewarm short cuts. 😅
What a wonderful teaching. I am blessed with this message. God bless you pastor
Thanks. We bless God that it's resonating with you.
Been there with my grandparents working in the field back in West va. Now a pastor and learning More of our father love . The Holy spirit is leading me and Jesus is showing me the way. Love ya brother. Thank you
That is awesome! Thank you for sharing how the Lord is working in your life. So encouraging!
I have the responsibility to be Good Ground as a Believer and Follower of Jesus Christ. Lord, help me to identify and remove the rocks that may be in my field.
Thank you very much. Your teaching is very good. I can now explain this parable to someone else and most importantly ask the Holy Spirit to show me the rocks in my heart and ask Him to remove them
So glad to hear! Thank you for sharing this, Susan.
I think verse 9 explains why it's the parable of the sower. Jesus is the sower, he will tell Everyone his Good News, and wants His disciples to do the same. God will sort out the rest. As humans searching for connection to God, we think of this parable as how we can apply it to ourselves. Which one are we? But I believe the main message is that Jesus would tell all that could hear, and only some would truly believe.
Thanks for following along and for engaging so thoughtfully!
So clear in His word . Thank u . Love it . I better understand it now
I bless God for that Cc! There are few things better than the jolt of delight when you see all of these deeper dimensions and nuances of what God is up to in the text.
Thank you. Good word.
Is it possible to have different types of soil in different seasons of our lives
That's actually one of the things an ancient agrarian society would've understood about soil but that flies right over our modern heads. Soil is a living thing. It erodes. It washes away. It gets compacted. Good farmers know soil needs to be rested, covered, and given boundaries. There are times when the ground needs to rest, recover, and cease producing. The phrase from Psalm 1:3 about "yielding its fruit in season" suggests the same thing. There are seasons when production would be the opposite of faithfulness.
In his memoir The Pastor, Eugene Peterson wrote, "Didn’t I know by now that growth, any growth-but especially character growth, spiritual growth, church growth, body-of-Christ growth, soul growth-had periods of dormancy?" (Eugene Peterson, The Pastor: A Memoir (New York: HarperOne, 2011), 207.)
In our pragmatic, productivity obsessed culture, it's tempting to view rest and dormancy as though "nothing's happening." But our best work emerges from rest.
Man amazing teaching
Thanks so much for following along!
I just came across this video and feel soo blessed 😊
So glad you found us!
The soils are the condition of the condition of the human heart. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Circumcision is cutting away of the flesh. A physical representation of the work of the Holly Ghost.
From the heart the mouth speaks. See what He wrote on it?
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.-Mathew 7:21
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.-John 6:35-40
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.-John 20:29
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.-John 3:16
Praise our God Almighty🙇♀️🙇♀️
Amen!
Keep sowing seed and God will work your soil
Quality teaching! Greetings from Scotland : )
Thank you!
Thank you for this! For years I've been struggling to understand the salvation message in this text. So many seeds grew, but only one produced crops. Was that the only one saved?? But it wasn't the only one to grow... Now, I get it. This isn't about salvation! Its about receiving God's word. His word planted well produces fruit for me and for others. Beware of rocks and be ready to receive God's word. So good. Thx!
Sorry. But it does involve salvation.
The sower is an evangelist. The seed is the Gospel. The evangelist shares the Gospel with everyone.
Listen to Jesus' explanation about the first soil: "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom (the Gospel) and DOES NOT UNDERSTAND IT (because they don't have the Spirit of God, 1 Cor 2:14) the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path."
1 Cor 2:14 proves that people who don't understand the Word of the kingdom, do not have the Spirit of God, meaning, they have not been born again.
This is what 1 Cor 2:14 says: "The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit."
This involves salvation of the elect and reprobates. Read Ezekiel 36.
I am blessed by ýour teaching thank ýou sò much
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Thank you pastor for sharing this scripture.🙏💗
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Thank you for showing the scriptures
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@@WalkingTheText can you do a video on what it means to be dead to sin
@@LovePatience32 We'll add it to our list of ideas for future episodes!
Tryna be the seed that falls on the good soil, pray for me brothers and sisters im walking trails
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Wow! Amazing!
So amazing thank you very much
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A teaching is like a bowl of porridge. Sometimes the porridge is old and stale and not palatable. Sometimes the porridge is served up with no cream and it does nor go down well. Sometimes it is served up lukewarm and is not appetizing, so is not eaten. But the good porridge which is served up hot with good cream and a spoon of honey not only goes down well but is often remembered later as a very good meal.
This was amazing
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The more I watch these clips about the Parable of The Sower. I now think ( in relation to my dream ) Loretta represented not just The Good Path but The Good Soil. As if to say - If I plant my seeds with someone like her ( of good soil - soul - ) then I shall have a good crop - great reward and not someone who is of hard stony ground or shallow ground or thorny ground. This really AWAKENS me this message. Why else would I have such a DREAM ?? IT IS A MESSAGE. A message for ANYONE to learn from.
Thank you pastor
Thank you for watching!
The true meaning of the parable of the sower is this: when anyone hears the message regarding the Kingdom and does not understand it - the evil one (the selfhood) snatches away what was sown in his heart; this is what was sown along the path.
As for what was sown on rocky ground - this is he who hears the message and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself - but endures for a while - and when tribulation or persecutions come on account of the message - immediately he falls away.
As for what was sown among thorns - this is he who hears the message - but the cares of the world and the delight in riches - choke the message and it bears no fruit.
As for what was sown on good soil - this is he who hears and receives the message and understands it; he indeed bears fruit - and yields - in one case a hundredfold - in another - sixty - and another thirty fold.
The Constitution secures Self Government.... you cannot force people to govern themselves because self government is Magnanimity.
You mention the rocky places of a field acting as landmarks between two families, is this what Deuteronomy and Proverbs refer to when it says never remove landmarks?
Yes! Those are what the text calls boundary stones.
This has been a nuclear...praise God! Where can I ask for your slides bro?
We don't typically share the slides as many of the images we use are copyrighted material from others, but if there's something in particular in the slides you're hoping to get your hands on, I'd be happy to see what I can do to help.
HI guys, isn't it the parable of the sower rather than the parable of the soils?
Hello there! Yes! Traditionally it has been called the parable of the sower. But as Brad mentioned in the teaching, the parable is more about the soils than the sower. Hence, many scholars are now referring to it as the parable of the soils.
This is so good
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Wooow beautiful explanation! Praise God!!!
Thank you! Thank you so much for watching!
Love this episode!
This involves salvation of the elect and reprobates. Read Ezekiel 36. Only God can transform hearts of stone so that His commands CAN be obeyed.
Can you discern it?
And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.-Luke 10:30
Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the Lord is your strength.-Nehemiah 8:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.-John 10:10
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.-John 10:1
Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.-Isaiah 55:13
And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:-Mathew 13:7
Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.-Luke 10:36-37
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.-Galatians 5:14
It seems your emphasis on the soils is representing different kinds of believers IN the world.
But the context is IN the Kingdom of God and the seed is the Gospel Word. Believers accept the Word are created new, spiritually perfect and yield fruit.
To interpret the parable as you are teaching promotes works to get into the Kingdom, which is impossible.
Hey Brett, the emphasis in the teaching wasn't on "working" your way into the kingdom. It was on the responsibility we have to prepare our hearts to be receptive to the word of God so that we may faithfully walk them out in our lives. "Works" don't save us. Faith does. But "works" are important in demonstrating that one's faith is real (Matthew 7:21; Ephesians 2:8-10; James 2:14-26).
@@WalkingTheText Your emphasis is different soils for different believers. That implies works to the layman (try harder).
I understand your explanation and it can apply that way but why take the parable beyond it's contextual meaning? It's confusing.
We agree salvation by grace not works. And thanks for the reply; but address my actual point in interpretation if you will.
@@uview1 Hi Brett. My name is Brad Nelson, and I'm the content director at Walking the Text. As I read your question and the prior responses, it seems there's agreement on the fact that "works" don't save us. Yes, we're justified by grace through faith and not by works. Nevertheless, discipleship is the ongoing process of being apprenticed to the way of Jesus, growing into His likeness by our partnership and participation with the Holy Spirit's activity in our lives. Discipleship isn't the finish line. It's the starting line.
If believers "accept the word and are created new, spiritually perfect," then how are we to make sense of Peter's denial of Jesus? He's received the word (Matthew 16:16) and yet it seems the Holy Spirit is still actively engaged in bringing him to complete newness. He's a disciple in process. This is where N.T. Wright's concept of "inaugurated eschatology" is so helpful. Jesus's resurrection has saved those who believe and follow him, yes, but the full working out of that new creation is still in process. Some scholars/theologians liken this to the role of D-Day in WWII. The decisive battle had been won, but there was still work to be done to bring things to completion.
The rabbinic tradition of speaking of 4 kinds of disciple-I believe-speaks to the participation (or refusal to participate) with the Holy Spirit in the process of sanctification of those who are in the Kingdom.
There's another element to your question that I think poses an interesting or challenging take on how Jesus speaks of the kingdom, and that comes from the parable of the wheat and the weeds. The context is a parable about the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 13:24-30). So, if I'm following your line of questioning correctly, we would also have to think this parable is about those who are IN the kingdom of God/heaven. But then Jesus speaks of an enemy engaged in an act of agricultural sabotage. So, does that mean there are some planted IN the kingdom who are planted there by the enemy? And this is where I think it's critical to take a step back and remember that, contextually speaking, parables aren't meant to be read so literally from top to bottom. Klyne Snodgrass's book Stories with Intent does a fantastic job getting at this aspect of parables. Instead, it seems the point is not to be so worried about who's in and who's out. The kingdom is going to have a lot of gray, and it's best to leave the judging to God, and in the meantime, to simply focus on growing.
I'm curious to know if this is helpful and if it addresses your question?
@@bradnelson8337 Hello. Of course discipleship is an ongoing process. But the parable is about people in the world, only some of which become believers (good soil).
I'll get in to your tangent. At salvation, we are given Christ's Spirit. Our spirit as One made new by the Holy Spirit (2Cor 5:17). Your example of Peter's denial is him acting in his flesh. And actually although the Spirit was active, this is prior to the Holy Spirit residing in believers (the Church). Christ in us is perfect, but our flesh is not and will perish. We will be given new bodies at resurrection. You know this.
Regardless, there are other Kingdom parables like The Hidden Treasure and The Pearl of Great Price addressing good works and rewards as the believer matures, denying the flesh and becoming more Christlike. The rabbinic tradition and Snodgrass you mention is interesting but misapplied to the soils parable since there is only one good soil representing a believer. It is about the Kingdom of Heaven growing in terms of how it's being built. Seed is spread throughout the land (world) but only a portion takes root and grows (believers that multiply unto more believers).
Then each Kingdom parable provides added info building upon the other. Proper interpretations lead to a greater overall picture and understanding about the Kingdom program that Jesus instituted.
You aren't allowing the thought that you misinterpreted the parable, and that's why I questioned this video. Your response required me to expound the scripture again which also reinforced my understanding. I wish you could hear the parable correctly and not teach it otherwise. Thank you sincerely for the consideration.
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This involves salvation of the elect and reprobates. Read Ezekiel 36.
You ask God to show you the rocks in your life, because you see rocks as sin, but by asking you already know what the sin in your life is. So instead of asking to see something you already see as rocks, aka sin. Is it is sin that is common to man? Seek and pray with your elders. In your family. If it is the sin that leads to death (aka= not doing as Romans 10:9 requires us to do. Believe, confess, And you will be saved.
Good teaching. But while it might be clever to say it's not the "parable of the sower" but instead the "parable of the soils," it should be remembered that Jesus Himself called it THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER.
The first group were not saved.
The second and third group were saved but not fruitful.
The fourth group were saved and fruitful.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of eternal life to all who trust Him alone for salvation.
That means:
Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.
the title is about the farmer .... what about if the farmer has one of those heart conditions .... and people who are listening to the farmer will get more of what they see (in farmer’s life) more than of what they listen ?🤔 .... words show what the farmer knows but acts show what each farmer lives .... easy to talk, hard to practice .... 🤓☕️
“When Isaac planted his crops that year, he harvested a hundred times more grain than he planted, for the Lord blessed him.”
Genesis 26:12