Damn, this song gives you the fucking feels! (along with the chills) That's the Genocide route, just in InFamous, Zeke is just Flowey. Kuo is pretty much Sans, though it's pretty easy to take her out.
Kinda funny how Zeke went from this character everyone hated in infamous 1 cos they found him whiny, annoying and a backstabbing prick, to a character people really liked and felt genuinely upset for his death. Just shows Sucker Punch really improved their writing for him and did a great job
ok, sudden realisation: zeke, good ending: "i love you brother, and i sure am gonna miss ya" delsin, good ending: "i love you brother, and i sure am gonna miss ya" these sneaky bastards ;-;
if they had just let you wail on zeke his death would have meant nothing. it's the way they force you to do it as slowly as possible, where they force you to watch him struggle to get up to shoot you, only for you to zap him again until he eventually just keels over. no video game has ever made me cry... but this was close.
Zeke Dunbar and Cole MacGrath. Probably the bravest video game characters I've ever known. It's one thing to risk your life for what you believe in. It's another to knowingly lose your life for it. Cole gave his life for humanity in the good ending. Zeke failed, sure, but he tried to save humanity even knowing that he'd most definitely die and fail. As Zeke said in the Good Karma ending: No one is more human than Cole MacGrath.
this is still in the top 3 games I've ever played because of the characters,without likeable characters you can't really do much to the players emotions
That’s what I love so much about Infamous: just how human everyone is, even those with powers. You’re not some alien from a distant planet, a warrior princess from a magical island, an inhumanily smart and strong man with infinite resources. You’re just a courier, who one day was suddenly able to shoot lightning out of his hands, but still as flawed and still quite mortal.
Fun fact: the evil ending was the intended true ending, but due to most fans preferring to be "good" they had to make the good ending the true one, despite all of the narrative hints meant to allude to the evil ending being the one that Cole would've personally chosen. And for those wondering why, it's quite simple: Cole's whole struggle is a fight with his destiny, to either conform to what everyone wants him to be or be his own man. Are all of his choices the most moral? No, but they're his to make, and he doesn't want anyone to take away his freedom. Couple that with a healthy fear of death and hints that conduits might be better suited for the world than normal humans, and you've got yourself a recipe for the evil ending.
I mean, he surely was hesitant with the way he said "John's method had fundaments" and all that shit. If he was ready to sacrifice himself that cinematic would have gone totally different.
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“Half as long” “Twice as bright” “I gotta try” “I know” *flashes back* “I don’t call you brother cause I like the way it sounds.” *walks over emotionally destroyed knowing his best friend......no his brother is gone forever at his feet because of his hands* *kneels down, amp in hand holding the last thing to remember his friend behind closely with his head down* “........”
John slowly walk over, knowing that his methods have lead to one friend kill another. Then after Cole finishes destroying the RFI he transfers his powers, and let’s go
"The candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long." This quote comes from the movie Blade Runner (but is based off an old proverb). It means that people who live a more dangerous, outgoing life (burning twice as bright) don\'t live as long. Wether that saying is true or not doesn\'t matter; that\'s the phrase\'s meaning. When Zeke first makes reference to it, he\'s referring to Cole\'s action-packed lifestyle (in both the Hero and inFamous versions). It\'s meant to be more of a passing phrase, without a lot of thought put into it. In the inFamous ending (SPOILERS), this is referring to Zeke\'s newfound bravery in standing up to Cole. He's decided to take action against all odds, and dies because of it. The other phrase: "Burning the candle at both ends" Is an old saying that is used to describe someone who\'s overworking themselves. Even though it isn't the best fit for this game, you could have it refer to Zeke helping out Cole despite his Growing sickness from the plague. -EliminatorZigma
I thought twice as bright had something to do with how Cole could create light since he had electricity or something... I really don't want to get into what I thought "half as long" meant lol
"Half as long, twice as bright." I first played inFamous when I was like, in high school. I fell in love with Cole and Zeke and got *really* invested in the story. The final boss for inFamous 2's evil route was, without question, the hardest boss fight I'd ever experienced even to this day. I remember, after beating the game, the next few days I kept thinking about my own brothers and how impossible it would be to be in Cole's shoes. To lose a brother isn't easy, but two months ago it happened. My baby brother was still so young, and one of the things I thought about was that quote. "Half as long, twice as bright." He was a great dude- strong, compassionate, and every single person I know he knew liked him. He brought light to people's lives and checked out early, metaphorically living life twice as bright but staying with us for half as long. He never played inFamous, but I think about this a lot. Sorry for the wall of text that doesn't matter to anyone in the long run. Thank you for reading this if you made it this far. I don't know where or how to grieve, and I had to get this out somewhere.
Had they made Cole mourn Zeke's death, or even push out a few tears, I would have completely lost it. God, they both loved each other so much and after all they've been through...
@@omnibeta1876 if he cried would he hurt himself? Cause the man hates water if it touches him. We’ve seen him drink so consumption isn’t the issue so it’s just a matter of it touches his skin it seems
@@thetrophygamer3606it's actually the amount of water at once, he can walk around in puddles and shallow bodies of water, but if it's deep he starts dyin.
sebastian quintero haven't played last of us (shame on me) but omg I remember when I got the worst ending in heavy rain. Made me feel so bad for days lawd :c
Same, no way I could just kill Zeke and go one with my day, the guilt on both the player and Cole is really unbearable at times in the bad/Would_have_been_Canonical ending.
they couldnt have made it a cutscene. they made you press R1 three times. you had to feel the pain of killing your best friend. Sucker Punch really knows how to hit that soft spot of people
This was such a sad scene... I play games where people die horribly at my hands pretty much every day, but it still hurt me each time I pressed that damn button...
Fun fact: the evil ending was supposed to be the canonical ending but because most people did the good ending. They ended up marking the good ending canon. Also before you go to argue in the comments. Please take the time to actually look it up. It’s really interesting
If people say that the good ending can’t be canon cause of the conduits going extinct then they forget it’s a gene and seemingly anyone can get it. So conduits can exist after the good ending their just not going to be common. And it doesn’t seem hereditary sense Nix’s family died in the ray sphere blast but she didn’t so there goes that
When I got to this boss 4 years, I literally just sat there for like 2 hours, shocked snd emotionally broken. I couldn't bring myself to press R1. Sucker Punch made me kill my best friend. I just wanted to blow up cars lol! (Crying inside)
Killing zeke was the hardest/difficult thing to do,out of sasha,kessler,alden,the beast and all those bosses,Zeke's was the hardest :( RIP Zeke and Cole :')
The song actually tells the tale. The agonizing violin in the background just speaks about how they both respect eachother but Cole has no choice but to move forward at this point, betrayal or not. Probably the hardest and saddest boss fight in history of gaming. Ornstein and smough in second place.
I still play Infamous 1 and 2 on a regular basis, both games still hold up really well I usually play through the Good Karma storyline though, I always find Infamous 2 to be bittersweet knowing that Cole dies in the end
Thanks for making this vid. I could not find this song. And the ending was sad as hell. Really puts a meaning to the phrase, "Die a hero, or live to become a villain."
In a way, Evil Cole in Infamous 2 is more like Anti-hero Cole for a few reasons 1: before the revelation of the RFI killing all Conduits, Cole wanted to kill The Beast, although he went about that goal in more ruthless ways 2: When Cole is at Outlaw and Infamous tank, he wears a white shirt underneath his other shirts that he wears at Outlaw and Infamous. The only white shirt that Cole wears is at Hero rank. I think the combinations of the shirt show that he has good intentions, but is ruthless 3: the evil ending is very morally ambiguous because no matter what, Cole is sacrificing one to save the other, so Cole doesn’t really live long enough to be a villain. More like a very fucked up hero, like Kessler
@@theholyknight. like I said, he follows in Kessler’s footsteps when it comes to being a fucked up hero. Except Kessler did those awful things out of necessity to make Cole strong
When it told me to press R1 and I shot zeke with a lightning bolt........I instantly became sad because I knew this ment I needed to kill zeke to progress in the game........I liked zeke............a lot.....and either cole dies in the good ending or zeke dies in the evil........
What i did i did th good ending first by the way is when it told me to shoot zeke i just quit the game and said zeke shot cole's heart and cole was permantly put in a coma
The one choice of the devs that I admired endlessly: that it took three shots. The break inbetween, watching Zeke struggle to stand up, then stay on one knee... it was heart-breaking. There wouldn't have been the same impact if he went down immediately. I just beat it on hard and damn, the trophy name is so fitting right now... those last scenes hurt... But the track is still one of my favourites.
I like how in this game the evil ending is actually justified to a certain amount, with no actual evidence that the RFI would cure the plague, while John's plan has been shown to work, and though the RFI would cure the plague they didn't know that, so it's less of the evil option, and instead the safe option I guess in the character's perspective, ensuring some human survival, even if the rest have to die, whereas the good ending is the risky one, sacrificing tons of conduits to possibly cure a worldwide plague, with no absolute evidence of it working. either way it's a just option, even if you were good the entire game the evil ending still works, same if you were evil and decide to do the good ending.
From NateFox's comments on Eurogamer of originally intending for Cole to live via the Evil Ending of inFAMOUS 2 (& citing nothing else on the matter for it being either Evil Cole or Good Cole) until Sucker Punch observed how many people were doing the Good Ending instead, it's very much possible that the former option was originally intended for inFAMOUS 3 before it evolved into Second Son. Even more so considering how siding with The Beast got foreshadowed in the ending for inFAMOUS 1 (Even more damning as Cole/John during the Power Transfer make the same expression The Beast makes during the last vision Kessler gives Cole), or how Cole has that one dream in the interquel comics involving Kessler where he pushes himself to make the call involving the least risk involved given the lives at stake (both of course being ironic given Kessler's entire motto was just making his past self into a being that could take on The Beast). If you ask me personally, I think that Kessler's Timeline itself was also part of some kind of Casual Loop Paradox with Good Cole as The Beast. My only real major evidence towards it being the presence of ice powers that would imply that The Beast is capable of cryokinesis, which in turn implies that this was the same Cole that had power swapped with Kuo. I dunno, this might all just be insane rambling as is. I'm more curious about what exactly would be the part that would lead to Beast Cole ending up in Kessler's timeline (Not that it's impossible per say, having the powers of The Beast would give Cole a rate of growth Kessler could never hope to have).
@@TheSoCalledZoner1 For the Evil Ending being the canon ending for inFAMOUS 3: "I wrote the evil ending of the game to be the continuation," Fox told Eurogamer. But, "we looked at player trophies on PSN for inFamous 2... 78 per cent of people decided to sacrifice Cole, so we said, alright, these are the votes." For The Beast being Good Cole? It's conjecture (Such as the Beast oddly wielding ice powers for some inexplicable reason) largely built on headcanon. That alone makes me think that inFAMOUS 3 could've ended the series by going full circle, with Cole having been responsible for ravaging Kessler's timeline who in turn travels back in time to mold Cole into the hero he couldn't be, only for the cycle to repeat ad infinitum.
Noticed how the more bad things Cole did, the more his posture changed? The more pale his skin became? He was killing the human within him. He was becoming the one he feared the most. The Beast.
Also SP intended to make the next inFAMOUS game after inFAMOUS 2 based on the evil/bad karma ending but guess what, they decided to cancel production because a lot of people played for the good ending. Then there is people like me who did both, but don't get a fucking say I did the evil ending FIRST, because idk.
I remember i used to listen to this song on repeat driving to Tafe in 2013. i even commented on here, i can't believe how long its been. I turned 27 today, and i was 18/19 when i was playing this on repeat. Just thought of it now out of the blue. Time really is amazing and underrated. We SHOULD NOT take it for granted!
The Evil Ending was at one point gonna he the canonical ending. But due to the fact that more players played as Good, they changed it to make the Good ending canon. While I think it would’ve been heartbreaking to know that Cole killed his best friend Zeke, I think it would’ve helped InFamous Second Son. Hell they could’ve had Cole as the main antagonist while either Delsin helps to defeat him and bring back a new age of humanity and conduits living amongst each other, or he could join Cole to destroy humanity even further and living in a world where conduits only live. It could’ve been like some Prototype 2 thing where Alex Mercer was the main antagonist of that game while he was the main protagonists of the first Prototype game.
I like to think that Cole's price of moving forward to raise new conduits also just meant the erase of his past. Trish, Empire City and now Zeke, gone.
Bruh. This scene legit made me tear up when I played this game for the first time in the 8th grade. And to this day it makes me sad. I hate that Cole is canonically dead, but Man would this have been a bleak Canon.
Recently I lost very important person for me and I can’t just stop thinking how this song resonate that feeling. Changing world, selfishness and betrayal. And then this moment. The last talk, when I just get shoot and left behind like I was no one. “It appears it’s impossible to be the way it was” “I know, but it doesn’t have to be” “I’m afraid it will never be” “Come on, we can start it again. Why won’t you just let it go? You are really going to left it all die just because of stupid misunderstanding?” “It appears so” “So this is how it ends? Just run and left me like I was nothing? Like nothing ever happened? You’re even bigger coward than me.” “I’m sorry, but its just to much” “You never tried.” “I know.” We known each other’s from kid. And I was just left. Alone. On that forsaken street, the same place where it all began. But this time instead of morning, it was sun set. Beautiful sunset, right before very long and lonely night. Followed by thunderstorm. Just like in game…
I remember my first time doing this. My only time doing this. I got to that part. I said "No... No, I can't..." I hated the game for this. I was hesitant. I slowly, hesitantly pressed R1.
I Love how since the first 5 minutes of the game, you feel a connection with cole, no matter if you haven't played infamous before, this is one of the best characters in gaming ever, only a very few characters make you feel like you are with them no matter if they are evil or good, to me, only Lee Everet (From TWD), Marcus (From GOW), Cole McGrath and Half of all the characters in bioshock are the best characters in gaming by how they move you to feel sorrow (Batman from Arkham city too)
man killing zeke in the evil ending was one of the hardest things I had to do in that game... oh good times were those yeah never gonna forget ya cole...
i cried that night.the whole time i went down the evil path i figured i was just doing things more chaoticly,but then at the end,i thought," aww man i gotta kill nix?" then after that when cole turned around and zeke was pointing the gun... i just thought "NO.no you are not making me kill my best friend for this whole journey,come on.stop it! NO WAY! ill take it all back just dont make me kill HIM!"
Imagine this as 2nd sons beginning. Before the game starts, you're presented with a question that would only make sense if you played inFAMOUS 2. "Would you rather live Half as long, or shine Twice as bright?" Your answer determines what ending you follow.
Zeke: "I don't you brother because I like the way that's sounds"...."I call you brother because you had my back longer then I remember Im sorry things are like this but I can't change the past and you can change the future".... "Goodbye Cole"
Kanny Boy I'm not denying that Sly was cool, but I always enjoyed playing as Cole MacGrath a lot more than Sly. Probably because I always played Metal Gear Solid and thought he was the definition of stealth. But Cole was awesome. And the newcomer was a douche. But Cole was a man who can choose to be evil or good at his fingertips. Literally; with his powers
I realized cole didint shoot zeke because you cant attack an unharmed person and it would be considered unworthy and cole would shoot zeke only when he pointed the revolver at him. 😢
I think instead of Second Son, we should've gotten an InFamous 3 that follows the Evil End of InFamous 2, where the ONLY path is Good, you start as Infamous rank, and Cole has to live with the guilt of killing Zeke, which persuades him to try and redeem himself.
@@theholyknight. Fair But I feel it would kinda be boring if an inFAMOUS 3 came out and there's barely anyone around, and everyone you fought was a conduit.
The music still makes it a hard moment. i don't hate this ending because it sucks, it hate it because it was extremely well executed to make me hate it
![Gears Of War 2 [Music] - Heroic Assault](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4oFgg5ZdBY0/mqdefault.jpg)
"I still gotta try."
"I know."
(Bang)
Cole: Ah! ........ Argh
I'm not crying *tears* *flow* *down* *eyes*
@@herbertmoon2969 Don't worry man, I cried too ;-;
Didn’t even get the quote right smdh
@@alistaircraig7849- He did. Go cry to your mom about it.
"I don't call you brother because I like the way it sounds."
+Jordan Hernandez I love that quote
nbarocks23 true
Me too!
Damn, this song gives you the fucking feels! (along with the chills)
That's the Genocide route, just in InFamous, Zeke is just Flowey. Kuo is pretty much Sans, though it's pretty easy to take her out.
*Nix, not Kuo
Kinda funny how Zeke went from this character everyone hated in infamous 1 cos they found him whiny, annoying and a backstabbing prick, to a character people really liked and felt genuinely upset for his death. Just shows Sucker Punch really improved their writing for him and did a great job
+TW0 B1T don't hate Cole hate yourself for making Cole kill Zeke
Omg i realised my dad has never played infamous 2 bad ending! ima convince him to play infamous 2 on the ps3 and do the bad ending
We call it character development he grew from an asshole to actual nice guy.
I always loved Zeke
@@GigaChadJecht yea
The hardest boss in the game.
actually it is emotionally the hardest boss you simply dont wanna shoot him but you have to
RavielUriaHamon It was so hard to kill Zeke
RavielUriaHamon my eyes teared up I cryied
RavielUriaHamon no words could be more true
This is true and is the most emotional
Now I know why they're called Sucker Punch.
They're good at throwing them.
theflaredancer lol but crying at the same time fam
bo3king Too good to not get attention.
you when you run out of nerf darts
Tru that
Love this game,best out there.
ok, sudden realisation:
zeke, good ending: "i love you brother, and i sure am gonna miss ya"
delsin, good ending: "i love you brother, and i sure am gonna miss ya"
these sneaky bastards ;-;
ik its late but first light did this too
Im not crying...
This blue liquid in my eyes? They are just conduit powers...IM NOT CRYIN-
Good ending
Zeke: ''I love you brother and I'm sure going to miss you''
@empire's HQ dark lol they literally stole their own quote
@@mr.satoru8736 they just reused it. Not a bad thing
@@mr.satoru8736 it makes it more sad for OG players
if they had just let you wail on zeke his death would have meant nothing. it's the way they force you to do it as slowly as possible, where they force you to watch him struggle to get up to shoot you, only for you to zap him again until he eventually just keels over.
no video game has ever made me cry... but this was close.
This is exactly what I think
I cried on the good ending of this and red dead redemption
no video game has ever made you cry? well, have you played The walking dead by telltale? (he he he he'll cry until he floods the world)
I cried in Infamous 2 and second son... sucker punch makes awesome games.
Same here
Zeke Dunbar and Cole MacGrath. Probably the bravest video game characters I've ever known. It's one thing to risk your life for what you believe in. It's another to knowingly lose your life for it.
Cole gave his life for humanity in the good ending. Zeke failed, sure, but he tried to save humanity even knowing that he'd most definitely die and fail.
As Zeke said in the Good Karma ending: No one is more human than Cole MacGrath.
Yeah,I agree,this game isn't as well known as it should be.
this is still in the top 3 games I've ever played because of the characters,without likeable characters you can't really do much to the players emotions
Risk is quiz, lost is test.
Why you gotta say the things that make me feel the feels
That’s what I love so much about Infamous: just how human everyone is, even those with powers.
You’re not some alien from a distant planet, a warrior princess from a magical island, an inhumanily smart and strong man with infinite resources.
You’re just a courier, who one day was suddenly able to shoot lightning out of his hands, but still as flawed and still quite mortal.
Top 10 hardest boss fights
Senketsu Kiryuin ture
Senketsu Kiryuin true
cole macgrath lol same picture
He is the number one
Here at number 1, we have: Zeke Dunbar: inFAMOUS 2
Fun fact: the evil ending was the intended true ending, but due to most fans preferring to be "good" they had to make the good ending the true one, despite all of the narrative hints meant to allude to the evil ending being the one that Cole would've personally chosen.
And for those wondering why, it's quite simple: Cole's whole struggle is a fight with his destiny, to either conform to what everyone wants him to be or be his own man. Are all of his choices the most moral? No, but they're his to make, and he doesn't want anyone to take away his freedom. Couple that with a healthy fear of death and hints that conduits might be better suited for the world than normal humans, and you've got yourself a recipe for the evil ending.
I mean, he surely was hesitant with the way he said "John's method had fundaments" and all that shit. If he was ready to sacrifice himself that cinematic would have gone totally different.
Honestly to his eyes it wasnt evil but he knew for damn sure it wasn't good either he didnt had a choice cause he was already too deep
If they wanted real choice they should have stayed away from labels of ‘good vs evil’
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If they wanted people to do the evil ending they should have made it so you could do it even while on the good path
Please just run away, Zeke.. I don't want to hurt you!
thats what i wanted him to do
Not to be negative tho, but he would have died anyways from the R.F.I. Still Its really sad tho.
^ Zeke wasn't a conduit
Shady Gamer I think he ment the plague
kobe burgose He would have died from A. The Beast's Ray Sphere-like attack or B. the plague.
Cole: Half as long...
Zeke: ...Twice as bright. *raises gun* I gotta try.
Cole: I know.
DAMMIT, SUCKER PUNCH! WHY MUST YOU MAKE ME FEEL THESE FEELS??
+TheMGMGamer because you had to do what you do
They hit us with what they are
TheMGMGamer my nuts
ODdBall SutherLand your whats
ODdBall SutherLand u nasty asf
“Half as long”
“Twice as bright”
“I gotta try”
“I know”
*flashes back*
“I don’t call you brother cause I like the way it sounds.”
*walks over emotionally destroyed knowing his best friend......no his brother is gone forever at his feet because of his hands*
*kneels down, amp in hand holding the last thing to remember his friend behind closely with his head down*
“........”
John slowly walk over, knowing that his methods have lead to one friend kill another. Then after Cole finishes destroying the RFI he transfers his powers, and let’s go
@@roguezero3427 Now Cole, becoming the beast, starts his conquest to cure the world of the plague by awakening new conduits at the cost of human life
@@davethesis *Credits Roll
@@roguezero3427 ;-;
@DavesGambit fuck you guys now i'm crying
"The candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long."
This quote comes from the movie Blade Runner (but is based off an old proverb). It means that people who live a more dangerous, outgoing life (burning twice as bright) don\'t live as long. Wether that saying is true or not doesn\'t matter; that\'s the phrase\'s meaning. When Zeke first makes reference to it, he\'s referring to Cole\'s action-packed lifestyle (in both the Hero and inFamous versions). It\'s meant to be more of a passing phrase, without a lot of thought put into it.
In the inFamous ending (SPOILERS), this is referring to Zeke\'s newfound bravery in standing up to Cole. He's decided to take action against all odds, and dies because of it.
The other phrase:
"Burning the candle at both ends"
Is an old saying that is used to describe someone who\'s overworking themselves. Even though it isn't the best fit for this game, you could have it refer to Zeke helping out Cole despite his Growing sickness from the plague.
-EliminatorZigma
I thought twice as bright had something to do with how Cole could create light since he had electricity or something... I really don't want to get into what I thought "half as long" meant lol
I thought it was Zeke being half as long (shorter) but twice as bright (smarter) than Cole
Zeke ;( R.I.P also hardest boss in the game
He was morally hard though.
I remember when I killed Zeke...
I was fat and I was eating macaroni in my messy room crying while my face was full of pasta, saying, "Zeeke, nooo..."
+yee tastic lmfao
lol wtf
electricpants g
watashi cheese good times
True gamer
"Half as long, twice as bright."
I first played inFamous when I was like, in high school. I fell in love with Cole and Zeke and got *really* invested in the story. The final boss for inFamous 2's evil route was, without question, the hardest boss fight I'd ever experienced even to this day. I remember, after beating the game, the next few days I kept thinking about my own brothers and how impossible it would be to be in Cole's shoes. To lose a brother isn't easy, but two months ago it happened.
My baby brother was still so young, and one of the things I thought about was that quote. "Half as long, twice as bright." He was a great dude- strong, compassionate, and every single person I know he knew liked him. He brought light to people's lives and checked out early, metaphorically living life twice as bright but staying with us for half as long. He never played inFamous, but I think about this a lot.
Sorry for the wall of text that doesn't matter to anyone in the long run. Thank you for reading this if you made it this far. I don't know where or how to grieve, and I had to get this out somewhere.
It’s nice to see people still remember this great game. Sorry for your loss.
Stay strong…..he would want that✊🏾he’s proud of you
That’s really heavy. I hope you may have found some solace since then.
My father always said…
“Life isn’t fun without a struggle in it, but some struggles lead to tragic endings.”
Each time I shot zeke I got more sad:(
Mikey johnson It's ok, Koenigsegg, it'll be okay.
yes i´m too ;(
How is arteus?
"...I gotta try."
"I know."
I gonna cry
I know
@@a_r_i_z_o_na4998 lol
Who knew the easiest boss
Would be the most painful
Had they made Cole mourn Zeke's death, or even push out a few tears, I would have completely lost it. God, they both loved each other so much and after all they've been through...
He mourned it. When he smashed the RFI, that sounded like a scream of anguish to me
I don't think Cole can cry in first place *Neither do I*
@@omnibeta1876 if he cried would he hurt himself? Cause the man hates water if it touches him. We’ve seen him drink so consumption isn’t the issue so it’s just a matter of it touches his skin it seems
@@thetrophygamer3606it's actually the amount of water at once, he can walk around in puddles and shallow bodies of water, but if it's deep he starts dyin.
@@ratt__mann9220 true. Still wonder if he cries would his own tears make him flinch or something.
This is the only person in any game I've had a problem killing.
I can't remember the last time a game made me cry. This is why I treasure this game so much.
Did the last of us get ur feels also? Or heavy rain and stuff? :'(
sebastian quintero haven't played last of us (shame on me) but omg I remember when I got the worst ending in heavy rain. Made me feel so bad for days lawd :c
I know i get emotional during the music
Jamal Mays try Skies of Arcadia if you ever get the chance.
There are some true feels moments in there.
I did not cry but when this started i am like NAAWW why can i not point some where else I DON'T WHAT TO DO THAT
Dude this was a really sad death everytime I zapped him I let him shoot me once because I didn't want to kill him
Me too.
XtremelyFlatFish I froze up looking at him for 5 minutes and it came to me that...I had to kill him. Cried afterwards T-T
same here
Same, no way I could just kill Zeke and go one with my day, the guilt on both the player and Cole is really unbearable at times in the bad/Would_have_been_Canonical ending.
"I'd rather die a hero than live long enough to see myself become the villain." ~ Harvey Dent
I actualy had troubles brining myself to kill Zeke. It was such an emotional moment for me
Me to :(
they couldnt have made it a cutscene. they made you press R1 three times. you had to feel the pain of killing your best friend. Sucker Punch really knows how to hit that soft spot of people
Geo Marko yeah, you're like: "I just want it to end..." but the game is like "too bad! You have to do it yourself, bitch!"
***** hahahaha exactly
We'll at least you got ellie
Me: Alright now let's play the Evil Campaign.
*Final scene*
Me:.........Fuck I can't stop crying.
I kinda screwed my mind up to
José Henrique me to :(
IKR
killing zeke plus this music really had me crying
same
Half as long...
Twice as bright...
Nathan Chambers Dude, don't make me feel.
Nathan Chambers I gotta try.
Alucard I Know *Shot*
_"Half as bright... Twice as long."_
This was such a sad scene... I play games where people die horribly at my hands pretty much every day, but it still hurt me each time I pressed that damn button...
its been 7 years since. yes, it *still* hurts each time i listen to this song.
@@widekenobi22 to this day as well?
@@theholyknight. yep....... to this day
@@theholyknight. Its emotional damage for life,but one worth recieving.
Fun fact: the evil ending was supposed to be the canonical ending but because most people did the good ending. They ended up marking the good ending canon.
Also before you go to argue in the comments. Please take the time to actually look it up. It’s really interesting
Ayyy someone else who knows the lore behind the game!
You've prevented an argument by telling people not to argue! Wow modern problems require modern solutions you're like a hero or something
If people say that the good ending can’t be canon cause of the conduits going extinct then they forget it’s a gene and seemingly anyone can get it. So conduits can exist after the good ending their just not going to be common. And it doesn’t seem hereditary sense Nix’s family died in the ray sphere blast but she didn’t so there goes that
When I got to this boss 4 years, I literally just sat there for like 2 hours, shocked snd emotionally broken. I couldn't bring myself to press R1. Sucker Punch made me kill my best friend. I just wanted to blow up cars lol! (Crying inside)
no game will ever deliver this emotion in a hundred years infamous 2 remake
Oh yes lol. And anyone with save data or trophy data should get it free lol.
same here I didn't want to kill zeke
i h8 that it wants you to kill zeke instead of the milita. im fine killing kou or nix but Zeke dumbar no
"Half as long...."
"Twice as bright"
"I gotta try"
"I know"
Killing zeke was the hardest/difficult thing to do,out of sasha,kessler,alden,the beast and all those bosses,Zeke's was the hardest :( RIP Zeke and Cole :')
Yup
nix?
The song actually tells the tale. The agonizing violin in the background just speaks about how they both respect eachother but Cole has no choice but to move forward at this point, betrayal or not. Probably the hardest and saddest boss fight in history of gaming. Ornstein and smough in second place.
I intentionally lost to Zeke the first time I played through the Evil Campaign
Is it possible?
+GmaerXQ Only if you're playing on Hard difficulty. He was fully capable of shooting me after about 10 shots
I literally turned of my PS3
Wait...THAT CAN HAPPEN? DAMN YOU, NOW I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME AGAIN TO SEE THIS!! FOR THE 7,99,114,6TH TIME!! ON HARD MODE!!
Meh to I can’t kill him
Good Ending: Sad but touching.
Evil Ending: Just plain depressing.
R.I.P Zeke, we'll miss you brother.
Me:let’s see what cool powers we get after doing evil side! *completes it* Me:I’ve won...but at what cost?
Congrats,you won emotional damage ://
@@DiabloProcentoPersonal. fr :(
@@DiabloProcentoPersonal. and ice grenades, can't forget those ice grenades
"What did it cost...."
"....Everything"
That moment when you kill the most lovable character in the history of video games..
This soundtrack makes me miss the days that I would play infamous. Those were the days. I miss them. :(
Moo Money oh yea same for me
I still play Infamous 1 and 2 on a regular basis, both games still hold up really well I usually play through the Good Karma storyline though, I always find Infamous 2 to be bittersweet knowing that Cole dies in the end
it was my childhood man
"Half as long..."
"...Twice as bright. I gotta try."
"I know."
Damn, these lines alone sent shivers down my spine.
Thanks for making this vid. I could not find this song. And the ending was sad as hell. Really puts a meaning to the phrase, "Die a hero, or live to become a villain."
In a way, Evil Cole in Infamous 2 is more like Anti-hero Cole for a few reasons
1: before the revelation of the RFI killing all Conduits, Cole wanted to kill The Beast, although he went about that goal in more ruthless ways
2: When Cole is at Outlaw and Infamous tank, he wears a white shirt underneath his other shirts that he wears at Outlaw and Infamous. The only white shirt that Cole wears is at Hero rank. I think the combinations of the shirt show that he has good intentions, but is ruthless
3: the evil ending is very morally ambiguous because no matter what, Cole is sacrificing one to save the other, so Cole doesn’t really live long enough to be a villain. More like a very fucked up hero, like Kessler
@@creativeguy1martinez693 yes
@@theholyknight. like I said, he follows in Kessler’s footsteps when it comes to being a fucked up hero. Except Kessler did those awful things out of necessity to make Cole strong
It's not possible to hear this without crying, I don't think I could ever bring myself to play the Evil path twice.
Agree that very much
Yea
When it told me to press R1 and I shot zeke with a lightning bolt........I instantly became sad because I knew this ment I needed to kill zeke to progress in the game........I liked zeke............a lot.....and either cole dies in the good ending or zeke dies in the evil........
What i did i did th good ending first by the way is when it told me to shoot zeke i just quit the game and said zeke shot cole's heart and cole was permantly put in a coma
@@bisharoalan6527 let him go
The one choice of the devs that I admired endlessly: that it took three shots. The break inbetween, watching Zeke struggle to stand up, then stay on one knee... it was heart-breaking. There wouldn't have been the same impact if he went down immediately. I just beat it on hard and damn, the trophy name is so fitting right now... those last scenes hurt... But the track is still one of my favourites.
I like how in this game the evil ending is actually justified to a certain amount, with no actual evidence that the RFI would cure the plague, while John's plan has been shown to work, and though the RFI would cure the plague they didn't know that, so it's less of the evil option, and instead the safe option I guess in the character's perspective, ensuring some human survival, even if the rest have to die, whereas the good ending is the risky one, sacrificing tons of conduits to possibly cure a worldwide plague, with no absolute evidence of it working. either way it's a just option, even if you were good the entire game the evil ending still works, same if you were evil and decide to do the good ending.
From NateFox's comments on Eurogamer of originally intending for Cole to live via the Evil Ending of inFAMOUS 2 (& citing nothing else on the matter for it being either Evil Cole or Good Cole) until Sucker Punch observed how many people were doing the Good Ending instead, it's very much possible that the former option was originally intended for inFAMOUS 3 before it evolved into Second Son. Even more so considering how siding with The Beast got foreshadowed in the ending for inFAMOUS 1 (Even more damning as Cole/John during the Power Transfer make the same expression The Beast makes during the last vision Kessler gives Cole), or how Cole has that one dream in the interquel comics involving Kessler where he pushes himself to make the call involving the least risk involved given the lives at stake (both of course being ironic given Kessler's entire motto was just making his past self into a being that could take on The Beast).
If you ask me personally, I think that Kessler's Timeline itself was also part of some kind of Casual Loop Paradox with Good Cole as The Beast. My only real major evidence towards it being the presence of ice powers that would imply that The Beast is capable of cryokinesis, which in turn implies that this was the same Cole that had power swapped with Kuo. I dunno, this might all just be insane rambling as is. I'm more curious about what exactly would be the part that would lead to Beast Cole ending up in Kessler's timeline (Not that it's impossible per say, having the powers of The Beast would give Cole a rate of growth Kessler could never hope to have).
Wheres your guys proof
@@TheSoCalledZoner1
For the Evil Ending being the canon ending for inFAMOUS 3:
"I wrote the evil ending of the game to be the continuation," Fox told Eurogamer. But, "we looked at player trophies on PSN for inFamous 2... 78 per cent of people decided to sacrifice Cole, so we said, alright, these are the votes."
For The Beast being Good Cole? It's conjecture (Such as the Beast oddly wielding ice powers for some inexplicable reason) largely built on headcanon. That alone makes me think that inFAMOUS 3 could've ended the series by going full circle, with Cole having been responsible for ravaging Kessler's timeline who in turn travels back in time to mold Cole into the hero he couldn't be, only for the cycle to repeat ad infinitum.
Noticed how the more bad things Cole did, the more his posture changed? The more pale his skin became? He was killing the human within him. He was becoming the one he feared the most. The Beast.
SPOILER ALERT
Both endings are so sad, either Zeke dies or Cole dies. :'(
+dawson cole true so call it an anime but not japenese ;)
yes ;( and this sad music in the background
Nix dies in both endings. Her death is inevitable
God dammit Sucker Punch I hate you but I love you because that is great story writing!
Also SP intended to make the next inFAMOUS game after inFAMOUS 2 based on the evil/bad karma ending but guess what, they decided to cancel production because a lot of people played for the good ending.
Then there is people like me who did both, but don't get a fucking say I did the evil ending FIRST, because idk.
First time I ever cried at a video game. Hurts more knowing this was the intended canon ending.
Many years later and this still makes me cry
man I wish they made another infamous
Please Sledgehammer
PLEASE!!!!!!
Wow autocorrect
Sledgehammer?
I tried to say Sucker punch
No body likes Sledgehammer
I mean exo zombies
Really?
why did i have to kill zeke WHYY.... he was the best npc ever....move over aerith zekes death is sadder
anyone else cry when they hear this theme.... or even read the name of the song...?
Roman Wolf yea
I remember i used to listen to this song on repeat driving to Tafe in 2013. i even commented on here, i can't believe how long its been. I turned 27 today, and i was 18/19 when i was playing this on repeat. Just thought of it now out of the blue. Time really is amazing and underrated. We SHOULD NOT take it for granted!
i wonder if a platinum... worth the sadness that i felt in that moment..
The Evil Ending was at one point gonna he the canonical ending. But due to the fact that more players played as Good, they changed it to make the Good ending canon.
While I think it would’ve been heartbreaking to know that Cole killed his best friend Zeke, I think it would’ve helped InFamous Second Son. Hell they could’ve had Cole as the main antagonist while either Delsin helps to defeat him and bring back a new age of humanity and conduits living amongst each other, or he could join Cole to destroy humanity even further and living in a world where conduits only live.
It could’ve been like some Prototype 2 thing where Alex Mercer was the main antagonist of that game while he was the main protagonists of the first Prototype game.
I am not sarcasm Zeke is the hardest boss in the entire gaming history
I WENT TO CRY IN BED AFTER THIS,I JUST WANTED TO TRY OUT BEING EVIL....
Nigga this shit made me nearly cry and this is the only game that gave me such deep emotions
SO FUCKING TRUE MAN I FELT SO DEPRESSED HONESTLY
It's really sad but Mother 3 is like 3 times sadder though
Dam i am not ready for that saddness yet
I like to think that Cole's price of moving forward to raise new conduits also just meant the erase of his past. Trish, Empire City and now Zeke, gone.
"I love you brother and I'm sure gonna miss you"
Bruh. This scene legit made me tear up when I played this game for the first time in the 8th grade.
And to this day it makes me sad.
I hate that Cole is canonically dead, but Man would this have been a bleak Canon.
Real
What an unfair fight, having Ninja's cut a bunch of Onions in your room to make it hard to see
1:04 starts the emotion part of the evil ending.
I consider myself very male, but when I hear this song, makes me want to cry
Even men are meant to shed tears.Being mellow and soft is part of who we are as humans
i never cry while playing sad video games but this one... this fucking game broke me.
@@geomarko4161 Same ;-;
0:15 I'm not crying, I'm not crying. OK I AM CRYING!
I remember feeling empty after fighting Zeke. Cause I lost a friend...by my hand.
Recently I lost very important person for me and I can’t just stop thinking how this song resonate that feeling.
Changing world, selfishness and betrayal. And then this moment. The last talk, when I just get shoot and left behind like I was no one.
“It appears it’s impossible to be the way it was”
“I know, but it doesn’t have to be”
“I’m afraid it will never be”
“Come on, we can start it again. Why won’t you just let it go? You are really going to left it all die just because of stupid misunderstanding?”
“It appears so”
“So this is how it ends? Just run and left me like I was nothing? Like nothing ever happened? You’re even bigger coward than me.”
“I’m sorry, but its just to much”
“You never tried.”
“I know.”
We known each other’s from kid. And I was just left. Alone. On that forsaken street, the same place where it all began. But this time instead of morning, it was sun set. Beautiful sunset, right before very long and lonely night. Followed by thunderstorm. Just like in game…
🫂
They should bring infamous 1 and 2 to next gen. Or just bring back cole and forget delsin!
Nah, then there would be nothing stopping x-men to sue SuckerPunch.
+The Ghost4543 coles more white
Theobrothegreat756
Not all conduits died in Infamous 2, some were activated by the RFI.
I like SS too tho
Mega Guy43 what? Why and how would they get sued by x-men?
I remember my first time doing this. My only time doing this.
I got to that part. I said "No... No, I can't..." I hated the game for this. I was hesitant. I slowly, hesitantly pressed R1.
anyone else think about how hard it would be to kill your best friend in real life or is it just me
Lightningshot 15 Oh god, I just couldn't do it.
When I got to this part I just couldn't do it I had the game paused for at least an hour just crying
MythBrains yes we know what you are. You don't need to tell us
shamar armprester As did I.
+dawson cole yup
Half as long, twice as bright.
These songs are legendary and the vide long ago was real i sure miss those days
I Love how since the first 5 minutes of the game, you feel a connection with cole, no matter if you haven't played infamous before, this is one of the best characters in gaming ever, only a very few characters make you feel like you are with them no matter if they are evil or good, to me, only Lee Everet (From TWD), Marcus (From GOW), Cole McGrath and Half of all the characters in bioshock are the best characters in gaming by how they move you to feel sorrow (Batman from Arkham city too)
man killing zeke in the evil ending was one of the hardest things I had to do in that game... oh good times were those yeah never gonna forget ya cole...
0:33 Play this at my funeral.
i cried that night.the whole time i went down the evil path i figured i was just doing things more chaoticly,but then at the end,i thought," aww man i gotta kill nix?" then after that when cole turned around and zeke was pointing the gun... i just thought "NO.no you are not making me kill my best friend for this whole journey,come on.stop it! NO WAY! ill take it all back just dont make me kill HIM!"
I felt my heart crying in this moment of death
Cole: Half as Long...
Zeke: Twice as Bright...
Zeke: I gotta try.
Cole: I know.
At least he's alive in Infamous: Second Son
_He had to try._
_We knew._
I couldn't do it, I couldn't find myself pressing R1. I couldn't live with myself
Imagine this as 2nd sons beginning.
Before the game starts, you're presented with a question that would only make sense if you played inFAMOUS 2. "Would you rather live Half as long, or shine Twice as bright?"
Your answer determines what ending you follow.
Zeke:I've got to try
Cole:I know...
My heart sank when i heard them say that
Zeke: "I don't you brother because I like the way that's sounds"...."I call you brother because you had my back longer then I remember Im sorry things are like this but I can't change the past and you can change the future".... "Goodbye Cole"
Sucker Punch's mascot/posterboy shall always be Cole MacGrath
No, that's Sly without a doubt.
+Kanny Boy agreed
Kanny Boy I'm not denying that Sly was cool, but I always enjoyed playing as Cole MacGrath a lot more than Sly. Probably because I always played Metal Gear Solid and thought he was the definition of stealth. But Cole was awesome. And the newcomer was a douche. But Cole was a man who can choose to be evil or good at his fingertips. Literally; with his powers
"Half as long.."
"Twice as bright.."
"I gotta try.."
"I know.."
Damn That game had a astonishing ending, It truly is an unforgettable game.
"Half as long... Twice as bright.... I gotta try.."
Zeke, Cole
" I know"
Cole
beast : cole I cant do this anymore.
Cole:SON OF A...
I need this game back.
"what do you get after you get your revengeance? Nothing,you will be just left alone..." rest in peace zake.
I realized cole didint shoot zeke because you cant attack an unharmed person and it would be considered unworthy and cole would shoot zeke only when he pointed the revolver at him. 😢
I think instead of Second Son, we should've gotten an InFamous 3 that follows the Evil End of InFamous 2, where the ONLY path is Good, you start as Infamous rank, and Cole has to live with the guilt of killing Zeke, which persuades him to try and redeem himself.
That would be cool but wouldn't that just make the events of the evil ending in infamous 2 pointless?
@@theholyknight. Fair
But I feel it would kinda be boring if an inFAMOUS 3 came out and there's barely anyone around, and everyone you fought was a conduit.
@@carbinecryo30716 sure
Out of every fight with the beast, Kessler, Sasha, Alden etc. this was the hardest. By far.
just because it was so hard to press that god damn R1 because you knew what was going to happen
Zeke: twice as long
Cole: half as bright
Zeke: you know i gotta try
Cole: i know
*Zeke pulls out water gun*
Cole: FUCK!
If only
The music still makes it a hard moment. i don't hate this ending because it sucks, it hate it because it was extremely well executed to make me hate it
"Nix was a Mistake" - Bruce Oberg, Brian Fleming creators of the Infamous series.
On one hand, it's the easiest enemy to kill in inFAMOUS 2. On the other hand, could you live with yourself after doing it?