15 years analyzing chess I've never seen this before
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2022
- I've spent 15 years analyzing chess and I've never seen this before, this is one of Hans Niemann's "Suspicious 100%" Games played in 2020 and analyzed by gambitman and Yosha. In the wake of the chess cheating all Hans Niemann games are being scrutinized and this beautiful game is a great find!
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That Hans is brilliant, he plays like a machine. He must be buzzing !
This kid grew up learning chess on machines. So his approach to the game be different from classical
@@elvinyeo7230 So did Prag, Gukesh, Keymar and the rest. You can stop blatantly lying now. 😡
proof or your just going to be discriminate against?
@@THAC0MANIC How are YOU going to prove some is cheating, even if they cheat in every game??? 🤡
@@jaideepshekhar4621 you mean if i was in charge and had a better system in place or some such like hey wtf you smoking do you not even know the basics of wtf your saying br0? so to you just claiming someone is a cheater is enough to condemn a person?
got it your one of these peeps that go
your german
hitler was german
thus your hitler.
I think brilliant move triggers when you offer some kind of piece sacrifice to gain an advantage. Because in this case the sacrifice for the Knight is offered multiple moves in a row it may explain the multiple brilliant moves
agreed
Ah that would start to make sense! And hope you're doing well, I'm enjoying the live chess vids 😁
I think it used to be a move the engine missed that is actually the best move due to the Horizon effect.
However, given that current Stockfish NNUE is stronger than Alphazero by a considerable margin (supposedly) I imagine such moves are exceptionally rare.
Yeah, that sounds right, once I actually got a "brilliant move" for the 2nd best move according to the engine. It was a pretty straightforward rook sac for 2 pawns.
The first was a truly brilliant quiet move which left my opponent with no moves.
Brilliant move gets triggered only on sacrifices that low-depth sf evaluates as blunders but high-depth sf evaluates as good moves
I’m not a Hans fan, but if I’m being honest, this seems to be intuitive play. It was not hard to see the first move or the others. The key is I’m not a grandmaster, so I’m sure the pressure not to do this is much higher in a game that counts vs a decent casual player that looks for tal inspired play.
Yeah my thoughts too! Thanks for watching
What is your rating if I may ask?
the moves were pretty much easy to spot.. can't analyze that much deep but with instincts if you are an attacking player will lead you to that series of moves.
@@junc3354 Check out the SuperGM here
@@1994mrmysteryman since censors are active, I’ll just say I don’t have fide or uscf, but on the two major online platforms chess and lichess, I am 2040 (2151 high), and 2169 (2264 high). Both are blitz (mostly 3 min).
If Hans was a battle strategist, I would want him on my side. He clearly knows how to mix up well known set plays. That's exactly what you need to beat other incredible generals who use old wars as a handbook to win.
Yeah very strong player and broke top 50 in world now! Thanks for watching
Well done to Hans. Those moves weren't groundbreaking more so intuitive.
Yeah agreed!
I'm a mediocre player at best, and I anticipated the 4 'brilliant' moves quite easily. The Queen move and potential Knight sacrifice seemed worth the risk, and the rest seemed like logical attacking play to get the rook behind the queen. If we are going to suspect people of cheating when they play well the game is in trouble.
Yeah defo findable! I think it just gets given a brilliancy for leaving the knight hanging the whole time basically. Thanks for watching, David
I found all 4 moves and I never quite made IM level back in the 70s.
These are good moves, but no way are they "brilliant".
It's been a while since I've watched chess content, but I'm happy to see you now at almost 15k subs!
Thanks Franco cheers for watching!
I don't care what the exclamations imply, there is nothing odd about those moves. Queen took initiative instead of the empty knight attack.
Yeah that's what I thought too
@@epicchess2021 He just played good moves (I play more complex games/moves).
I would agree with your analysis. Queen h3 is certainly a stunner, but for a top player like Hnas it shouldn't be hard considering every other move loses. I don't see any reason to think Hans cheated in this game. It was simply a masterpiece.
Thanks Kase glad you enjoyed cheers for watching
The real question is: whose masterpiece is it? Hans' or his cheat AI?
@@nightmareTomek Is Hans cyperknetic enhanced or chrispered or ... .
How do we know he's a top player? He could have been cheating all along. That's the problem with cheaters. You will never again be sure he isn't cheating.
He often blunders against low rating GMs, he's not top 10
I had low expectations if your analysis given the title of your video. But you now have new follower in me. That was a pretty fair and accurate /plausible overview. That algorithms benchmark in brilliant moves is pretty low. Only one if the four seemed to merit that distinction as u pointed out. Look forward to watching more of your analysis.
Thanks a lot appreciate it! And literally today Gotham posted a video showing 10 brilliancies in a row!!
That program ever seen Fischer play? It would call him a cheater every other game😩
Great video (and great beard!). Queen h3 was a perfectly normal human move; put the Queen in the danger zone. Even I saw it. I don't think I'd have played it because I couldn't see past the white Knight guarding g2, but I felt it was a normal attacking move. Queen into the danger zone. Especially as she always had a way back out again, no matter how passive.
Thanks haha, and yeah agreed, very playable especially at GM level!
You: I can see Qh3
Me(1500 random guy): Wow, you can cap
Queen h3 is normal, sacrificing a KNIGHT for it is NOT! 🙄
@@jaideepshekhar4621 The move progression after h3 is also not visible
Qh3 by far the hardest. Might be right or might be unsound. Guessing and playing it is not brilliant. If you’ve calculated and know, then it’s brilliant. Kg7 is not brilliant and any 1200 would play it and unless you have mate without any rooks it’s obviously the move.
There is a youtuber called SomeDumbTrucker, and he had a game with 7 brilliant moves in a row ( He was around 1600 on chesscom at the time of the game I think, and he has a video showing the game somewhere on his channel). I know the guy personally, so I am 100% positive that his game was legit. In his game he can take the opponent's queen , but he ignores it and continues the attack. Had I played that position, I would have just taken the queen ( I am 2250 on chesscom). So, I would not have made any brilliant moves according to chesscom, but would have still won the game, most likely.
Now comes the question: "If chesscom says the move is brilliant, should we agree that it is?"
Chesscom is establishing many new standards (by sheer power of their assumed authority) which are to put it mildly - questionable. However, most people are accepting these new standards as a given.
Nice video, nonetheless!
Yeah and he commented on this video and showed me 😁 and then Gotham did a video yesterday of 10 brilliancies in a row!! Yeah the brilliant thing is overused in chesscom rules I think , thanks for watching
Hans is an instinctively aggressive player who also uses psych-warfare techniques against his opponents (in interviews as well as OTB). Sometimes, like here, this works out fabulously: after he goes full send with the Q right beside their K, they literally crap themselves in fear and make several sub-optimal if not downright bad moves, opening opportunities which he improvises to exploit, and it ends up with him looking like an absolute genius who foresaw all, although there's a fair chance he did not.
OTOH, those opponents who can keep their nerve will generally belay his ardour to win or draw.
It makes for exciting chess, with plenty of cut & thrust, which is better than being bored to death by those GM's who play for 20 draws in a row. Cutting such a talent out of the industry due to some juvenile sins + the caprice of a Prima-Donna (Carlsen) would be a great loss for the sport.
And of course there was no assistance or cheating in this game: the 4 brilliancies in a row is more an artefact of CC's analysis algorithm, as the latter 3 were fairly easy to find.
Good video, btw, thanks!
Thanks a lot and yeah agreed, that death stare he does would annoy me if I was playing him
Great analysis. Interestingly, Qh3 was my first idea as it pins the f3 knight in place guarding g2 with the threat of mate and if gxf4, exf4 was looking pretty sweet. The following three I had trouble finding because I wanted to force something with a rook exchange sac after moving to d3 and then capturing the knight on f3.
Thanks Jason and yeah it’s a bit misleading when you’re looking for brilliancies and in this position it’s just the obvious follow up moves
Do you fucking retards just conveniently forget whatever evidence there is? Hans DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO after Qh3 if his knight was taken in the interview. HE DIDN'T KNOW! HE COULDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND the position! DO YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND??? 🙄
@@jaideepshekhar4621 no cause um wetodded sawee
But seriously, mate, I was responding to James Gardner's @Epic Chess question of whether or not I could find the moves the analysis engine deemed brilliant. The topic of the video specifically dealt with the 4 brilliancies in a row. Whether Hans was cheating or not wasn't the topic of my response.
I hope you don't speak to your family members the way you shitpost on UA-cam, though, mate. You're 6 shades of vile, aye?
10:46 - I would say it is "brilliant" because it opens up the column H for the rook to protect the queen. I did not notice at all such opportunity when I considered that move.
Great analysis. I'm a below-average player (and I play against below-average players) and we'll frequently just send a Queen down into a square like that behind the pawn line just to see what opportunities it might create. To me, that was an aggressive move that might look a couple of moves premature but it didn't look brilliant to me. It looked like a great spot for the Queen. She was in no danger but was pretty close to being in the King's face with no way to attack or get rid of her. Plus, white seemed pretty tentative. Black might have sensed the timidity and ratcheted up the aggression. Just my below-average opinion.
Thanks Alexander and yeah especially in blitz games sticking your queen in the danger zone like that often works well as a tactic. Yeah I think the brilliant move logic needs working on because some moves are obvious but called brilliant just because a piece is left hanging (the knight on f4). Your name rang a bell because and I went on your profile and then realised I’ve seen a couple of your videos before so thanks a lot for putting them up! Awesome channel great job 😁 👏
@@epicchess2021 Well, nice to meet you! Thanks for your encouragement on my channel and I wish you the best with yours.
Thanks a lot!
Great, short, concise video. Subscribed. (btw, you're not kidding that all Hans Niemann games are heavily analyzed -- when I use chessbase to have a look at them, there are literally already thousands of users who have beaten me to it.)
Thanks a lot! And yeah probably 50+ of his games are now bringing back 100% accuracy or close to it!
It did not look like cheating in this game. That looked like sharp intuitive play.
I've been analyzing chess for over 35 years with 34 1/2 of those years just staring blankly at the board being used as a food tray.
🤣🤣 fair enough that made me laugh 😁
None of these moves are too hard to see, actually. This is one of the least suspicious games by Hans
Yeah agreed! Thanks for watching
@@epicchess2021 Are you serious? You made a whole video supporting the exact opposite?
@@epicchess2021 I'm sorry Epic, I like your channel, but was the title "15 years analyzing chess I've never seen this before"? What a coincidence, the guy embroiled in cheating scandals has produced moves you've never seen before.
It's so nice to have plywood behind every wall. You can literally hang whatever you want wherever you want without worrying about hitting a stud or not.
It all boils down to character. If you have created a character that says "not only have I cheated, but I have lied about cheating," it automatically will make you a suspect in any situation that seems out of the ordinary, like a player playing above their level. whether you like it or not, it's apparent that Hans can't be trusted.
Yeah he’s done nothing to help his rep by those past actions that’s true
There's no proof. Magnus slandered him. Not cool.
@@JasonC-rp3ly There's proof of past cheating. The real issue is that he gains a psychological edge purely based on the paranoia an opponent could have from knowledge of past cheating. Hans doesn't have to cheat to throw Magnus off, and that's his own fault.
It looks like a logical way to play, not suspicious at all it's just good tactics. No engine needed to find the queen H3 attacking move I found it in less than a minute, the next moves weren't that hard to find either. If this is how chessdot finds cheaters than it's pure witch hunt BS.
Yeah I thought they were logical enough. But no this isn't how they find cheaters, they have tons of tools for that, this is just what the classified as 'brilliant' moves though I didn't get why all 4 were 'brilliant', only the first one seemed brilliant to me
@@epicchess2021 isn't the "brilliant" thing just "the best move on the board" ? I mean I saw that queen move (after a good long while I might add) and the rest was fairly obvious, but still possibly the best move he could make?
Hans is a confessed cheater. What are you on about? 😄
@@epicchess2021 "But no this isn't how they find cheaters", maybe chessdot flags players for cheating when 3 or more "brilliant" moves are made, in that case it is a pure witch hunt BS.
Hindsight.
I don't think we can draw anything from it since I saw this strategy and I'm a 1800-1900 player. I saw the Queen move hoping to capture the 'h' pawn and then swing over my rooks. I was not sure exactly how but that was my strategy!
I didn't see them as brilliant, myself. Moving the queen up to the white king seemed kind of obvious. All up in his grill while his protection was all to his left. I think these moves were simply allowed by the opponent who didn't have any good defense at that time. Maybe white should have moved f2 to f3 and give his king some breathing room and also allows for his queen to return to defend.
Hans Moke, his chess speaks for itself. However, nice attempt of explaining Hans brilliance.
Hans isn't a cheater. He's beading his opponents straight up.
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He's letting not only chess speak by itself, but also play by itself.
The game looked OK to me. Han being aggressive might have been thinking of opening up the H-File so Q to h3 seems fine and had white not taken the knight then Han would have gotten good attacking chances and gotten the knight back with a "levelish" game. So to me, his 3rd and 4th "brilliant moves" were, pretty much, forced as he had committed to the attack and had to get the H-file open for his rook...I think Han plays with a lot of intuition hence Q to h3 and like to be aggressive ...
Right. Once you go on the attack, you keep attacking. It was obvious that his opponent did not respond with good moves and allowed that line to be played.
Intuition? Where did his gut feeling(😂) go when he was beaten black and blue by Magnus on the beach... 🙄
Where has it gone now, when he is losing and losing? 🙄
I'm 1300, and they looked natural to me (as someone who looks for tactics). Throwing your queen in looked like a natural attack to calculate. Knowing the knight isn't enough, you look for backup and see that there are no attacks from white if you move your king to free up a file for your rooks. Therefore, all the calculations are made in the pawn/knight exchanges, knowing that the queen traps the king AND cannot be budged.
Yeah agreed! Thanks for watching Lance
Your sense of humour is always great 😂
To sac a knight for an extremely strong attack is where the fun begins - all other moves have been logical follow ups - not double exclams
The rest is a question of your opponents skills - - Giri or Karjakin would have not been impressed - for a weaker player to defend? Hard task!
Yeah that was my thoughts too when I saw this, seemed weird seeing this as 4 double exclams in a row
this is just a result of the knight hanging for consecutive turns. if the best move is something other than saving the knight and you make that move, its pretty much guaranteed to be 'brilliant'
brilliant move triggers after the person makes a move that the engine didn’t consider the best move but after reevaluating the position finds that the move was better than what it had originally came up with.
so basically if the engine recommends c6 but I sack my rook and the engine evaluates the position to be better than c6 it's brilliant because the engine didn't calculate stuff like sacking the rook
blongna, he just figured it out, its chess,both players have a shot
Finding the move in a game when you have no knowledge that it exists is the brilliancy. Seeing the move broken down in a post game analysis gives it a false air of normalcy.
Yeah fully agree, as soon as you’re told there’s a puzzle in there completely changes your outlook. Thanks for the watching!
What always strikes me about games at this level is that I nearly always spot the critical idea/move as a candidate move but it's always the timing that makes the difference. In this game specifically, the computer analysis quibbles about when to exchange pieces or not and usually the focus is on the supposed strength of that piece (usually the computer evaluates this as potential moves or space or control). But top players and computers also have a sense of when a piece that had a specific role locked up has suddenly become overloaded and is now a tempo behind where it needs to be and can seize on that or create that exact opportunity.
Hey Bud!! I think you must have been analyzing Chess for far longer than any mere "over 15 years." I would guess that you must have been analyzing Chess for, say, a century or two. Great work!!
Haha maybe in another life!! Thanks a lot for watching
You have to have beady eyes to see as far as Mr. Niemann.
Whoa your channel is starting to grow quickly!
Yeah I mean some videos do well (especially hans niemann haha) and some rubbish (eg no one cares about giri games lol) but certainly great to be reaching more people overall. Thanks for watching, Ky
Great analysis great video :)
thanks a lot adrian!
The only suspicious and brilliant move I thought was the defense h4 from white. Who does that!? The other brilliant moves kind of played themselves if you trust your intuition and don't want to give back the initiative. Standard stuff if you got a little Tal in you.
Yeah strange looking move, was heating up towards g3 but also risky pushing owns in front of your king of course
If Dubov was watching this game, he'd have found every one of the brilliant moves as well.
Agreed! Great attacking players
I didn't see the Qh3 advantage, but I'm a chump and Niemann's a top GM. The other three moves were more or less standard chess. It's unlikely that Niemann is cheating OTB, but if so he's clearly an evil genius.
When you called her video suspicious you were right the first time.
Yeah I don't rate it but I like the games
Well I double-checked Gambitslayer5000 super engine analysis and it shows Hans cheated with 117% accuracy! And Hikaru said wow repeatedly so that proves Hans cheated at Sinquefield!
I agree with the Movember technique. Just growing a mustache is hard, but if you grow the whole beard and then shave it down, you're home free.
haha yeah though at some point I guess I should shave it down or else November will pass me by
Grow the beard, but then keep the beard! (He says stroking his beard. It's good for playing chess!)
my thoughts are that the Algo is very generious in its praise
I would be disappointed if a GM couldn't see that move. It was obvious there was something there. To a GM that must have been a cake.
This algorithm classifies brilliant moves by when there's hanging pieces but you instead of defending the piece you make a better move. In this case it was 4 brilliant loves in a row because the knight was hanging for 4 moves while hans was playing other moves.
what's your take on what a "brilliant" move is and why lichess won't include in their analysis system
I think LiChess are just a bit behind on the development, being a non profit they just don't have the same team of developers is all, is my thoughts anyway
Great chess channel! Not super human 4 in a row. Only Qh3 deserved a double exclamation mark and even a single exclamation mark would have sufficed. The 3 follow up moves were a continuation of the idea behind Qh3.
Thanks a lot!
I'm gonna go with Hans being just that good!
Great to hear that the games I’ve seen him play he’s been fabulous
32, nice to see 'older gentlemen' still making content on youtube man. i'm 38, been writing for youtube since 2018. Good luck on this mad platform dude.
haha thanks man and the same to you!
@@epicchess2021 Thanks for the response man, I'm glad you got back to me. This platform is difficult to work on, but you have all the right ingredients for a successful channel and hopefully we'll get to see you succeed man.
Also, is it fair to say you beat a grandmaster if it was in a simul? -- I beat Jan Gustaffson with black in a simul and my brothers won't count it since it was... a simul. I disagree!
Thought he would have probably been able to win that game if we had played it out, it was giving -3 when his time ran out. Down an exchange and a pawn, I count it!
Cheers man,
bratya -- haha, yes, russians are born at 2100 ELO :P
@@Brandon-a-writer haha thanks a lot and yeah defo! You beat him fair and square although of course he was slightly handicapped by playing others, but regardless, fair and square very well played!! Can't say I've ever done it
Watched a few Anna Cramling videos today and 4 hours later I've made it to Epic Chess. I love how Epic Chess explains everything and all but I don't speak the chess language yet. I feel like I'm starting a new video game on the hardest mode. Anyone know of a good but more basic channel I could use to work my way up to Epic Chess?
The news style videos were easy to watch and very interesting but to hear a game being explained I realize how completely out of my league Epic Chess is.
Not a knock on Epic Chess whatsoever, it's a me not understanding what's being talked about without pausing and googling every other second kind of problem.
Oh cool that's interesting to hear though thanks! Maybe start with Gotham Chess and move up? In my more recent video though I try not to go so so deep!
I like it that the board awards some of black's moves with a "?" or "?!", when according to the engines his play was (almost) perfect. It was a pretty straightforward game, though.
Yeah!
Hans sets up h6 g6 pawns often. Sometimes if he’s trolling he goes a6 b6 h6 g6. Finchetto both sides. It's actually a decent setup.
Yeah true
Id have played that Queen move, I wouldn't/couldn't have worked it all out, but it looks like a good move
Sometimes the obvious move is brilliant. All of these brilliant moves were obvious.
Yeah true, I think the chesscom algorithm needs a bit of work on 'brilliant moves'. Thanks for watching
Qh3 is not obvious but when you play it you must calculate all the "brilliant" moves from a far. either that or is just very good gambler.
I'm a sub-par mediocre chess player. I got Qh3, got g5, missed h6xg5 (I didn't get it because it didn't seem "brilliant") , got Kg7. Of course I had the prompt "brilliant". But if I find them (although I don't know if they work), then a grandmaster will find them and he has good reasons to choose them. On top of that, notice all the "??" his opponent's moves received. To me just a grandmaster playing chess well at his level.
Exactly
Yeah but misleading calling it brilliant but that’s what chess.com evaluated it as !
Yep i think you nailed what's going on. That makes a hell of a lot of sense.
Do you fucking retards just conveniently forget whatever evidence there is? Hans DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO after Qh3 if his knight was taken in the interview. HE DIDN'T KNOW! HE COULDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND the position! DO YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND??? 🙄
Brilliant game!
I love the beard
Thanks 😁
In order to make a judgment, I would need to ask what kind of security they had at this tournament. Any? None?
I suspect very minimal for when this was played plus the fact it wasn’t a major major event like the super GM tournaments
I am quite interested in the position after Ne3 at 8:47. At first glance I thought that black can play ...f5,trying to kick the knight off e3 after exf5 Nxf5. White's best seems to be Nd4 so that ,after ...f4, white can play Qb3+ Kh8 ;Qe6. I then decided to play ...Rxd4 cxd4 and only then ...f4. There are some interesting positions after ...f5; Nd4 Rxd4; cxd4 f4; Qc4+ Kg7 ;Qxc7 fxe3.
Yeah really cool game, and sorry I can't comment on that because I don't recall it all I'm afraid. Thanks for watching, Clive!
Dude made serious {BLUNDERS}
Yeah! Thanks for watching
I don’t even play chess and still find Hans suspicious 😂
😂 👍🤣
Yeah cause it’s confirmation bias. You hear this guy is a cheater, you hear this game is suspicious, you are biased in that way. Not trying to insult or anything (and it is somewhat suspicious) but this is obviously confirmation bias. If you don’t play you have no basis for why it is suspicious other than this guy who while reliable is not a complete authority.
@@gusleffers9265 I’m biased because of his face 😁.
His past actions, tells it all.. He can't analyze his own games.. He is collb with Google or someone else.. Top tech up his azss?
@@HerrStaale 😂
damn, i'm surprised i guessed several of the moves.
Strangely, it was the first move that came to my mind.
Oh nice! Yeah it is quite natural when looking for the attack although the follow ups aren’t all obvious. Thanks for watching, Jan
His down under might be hurt from all the buzzing.
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In all honesty, I saw Qh3 straight away and I am not a strong player...I did not see the defensive resources though. (Obviously I would struggle to find something like this over the board, or even get the opportunity to get to that position haha!), but yeah, I just see a well played game here tbh.
I'm 1700 and was playing against Danya 2650 bot. I played "2 brilliant moves in a row". I still lost but yeah.
Oh nice decent going then. Any time a piece gets sacked the brilliant moves seem to kick in if its sound. Thanks for watching, Hubert
where were these so called "experts" before magnus accused hans? now everyone is an expert
Makes you wonder if the plan was to get accused of cheating so he could then sue them for money that would be the mastermind move
He started the anal beads rumour you mean?
You’re right…the guy is an evil genius 😁.
Qh3 (!!)... Hans turns on the engine?
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Yes
I saw all of that after move 6.
Nice 😁
2001 match between myself and mike porter. Ive played this game a few times. Not pro players but we had some epic matches for 2 risky players.
Nice! Do you have a copy of the game? Would be cool to have a look
Board game my dude. I just recognized almost every itteratiom you presented.
Sorry, i have never played against a computer. I just enjoyed a good game with an old boss.
Thank you for the memories. They were pleasent.
@@caitlynactually8070 ah fair enough! Yeah and cheers for watching
@@epicchess2021 i remember the time mike and i spent 4 hours taking everything down to the kings. He managed to pin me in 11 moves from halfway across the board.
:) challenging players that get the vibe and are always reworking tactics are a gift.
Good content
7:50 GASP!! Nieman moved his queen!! HAX!!! CHEATER!! BAN HIM!!
...I must be a genius Chess player too!
Moving my Queen near the Enemy King seems like the obvious move to me!
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That Queen move is something I would have played. But I'm not that good and everyone would have thought it was a mistake.
I would have blundered something else anyhow.
Yeah I guess that’s the hard bit is seeing all the follow up ideas. Still god intuition though! Thanks for watching, Mark
No one can beat the Beads Gambit opening..takes you to a dark place..narrow full of..corn..?
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i don’t play chess much but for some reason my immediate guess was queen to h3 (at 7:58 ) it just looked like a threatening position
Nice! Yeah if in doubt bring the queen in the danger zone haha. Thanks for watching
If it is online...then he has 2 computers running...one for the real game...the other one for a running a chess program.
This game is 100% accuracy……proceeds to show the engine questioning a lot of Hans opening moves
Lol yeah I mean I was more looking to show that they said it was, but I certainly don’t agree!
not sure how many would see the follow up of g5 after Qh3, but I know stockfish would
Very true haha
I'm sure if Hans was asked for analysis he'd have no idea, say "chess speaks for itself" and buzz off
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I not a hans fan im a big Hikaru fan, Im probably 1300rank rn and 1800 on puzzles and i got each of these moves by looking for 1 minute at the position. this seems like a rare situation where the best move in unusually obvious rather than him cheating. Im not stockfish or even good at chess really. I started as an adult, these moves weren't hard to find.
Yeah fair points!
Hans is guilty. Can you imagine drinking 3 water bottles in 1 game hahaha
The HANS 9000 played brilliantly 🙂
Lol
Suspicious to all hell he is
I am not even a chess player and I guessed the queen move and the king move so imo someone who dies this for living 24/7 should be able to see all 4.
Yeah fair point! And nice work 😁
maybe a clicking signal on its leg like on casino's.
Lol 😆
The pawn capture and king moving up were both the first moves I thought of. Maybe I'm a machine?? I don't think we can be calling people cheaters for making predictable moves that even beginners would think of...
Yeah agreed! Thanks for watching Marty
The pawns advancing and capturing are definitely predictable and good moves I’ve won a few games by continuously pushing pawns that my opponent slept on
So many people going with the "intuition" narrative. The guy couldn't even explain his moves properly. It's like he didn't understand what he had just done. And then he went with the "chess speaks for itself". Come on.
I would've made all four of those moves in that position. There's nothing unusual about that to me
u never seen stockfish playing before? hes rly good
He found the moves needed to carry on the attack, his opponent played many innacuracies..nothing to see here
I’m not sure about Hans, but I like the game. It features a well composed attack.
24. Raa1?? is a losing move. My chess program gives 24...g5 -4.10++ which means game lost for white (advantage like a rook plus). The attack on g column is quite easy for a player of this level. What people do not understand is that the young players are using chess software to find new opening moves as well as tactical ways to handle complicate positions. This means that they are learning also from software and getting used to play, in some positions, like them.
sorry loosing...
Yeah agreed! You spelt losing right the first time btw. Thanks for watching, Sandro
Best chess channel online. Thanks.
Thanks John appreciate it! Glad you're enjoying
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0:52 why are people still equating accuracy with engine correlation. It’s apples to oranges
Been wondering if Niemann sequestering himself away, studying with the engines round the clock has combined with some sort of special gift to emulate the approach of the AI so that at times he plays perfectly in alignment with what the engine would do.
Study could make a player unafraid to make those "impossible" moves. I watch a lot of chess, and most players state at times "this move looks impossible", then not play it, only to say they should have played it. At the highest levels, the first to blunder is under attack. All the games I've seen Hans do things, his opponent was surprised and played an inaccuracy after a "weird" move. Maybe those moves aren't so "weird" after all.
No. He cheats. Don't over think it.
@@122222770 LOL. Careful, you might be named in his lawsuit. 😊
@@122222770 where is the proof. If Magnus actually had it, he would have presented it.
@@vladimirkramnik3312 people like him only show how justified Hans lawsuit is lol
I'm not a Hans fan, in fact I'm a Magnus fan but what I'm seeing on the screen just makes sense from a player of his caliber. How can this prove anything? it's just normal moves.