In terms of skills, fun, intelligence and speed required to play (in powerlevel). Powerlevels needed: BW D rank =200 PL BW C rank = 250 PL BW B rank = 500 PL BW A rank = 1500 PL Pro = 5000-8000 PL ---- SC2 = Grand master = 300 PL somewhere between C-B rank in BW
@MegaFoch whats fascinating about bw is that its still evolving and sc2 is a similar but not the same game . with different units and different strategies . no one assured you its balanced talk to me in 6 years not that i;m saying its not its just u cant tell only after a long time of cycles u can really know . just cause its sc2 doesnt mean it has the balance of 1
@AlenRyuu people can't get better right? I mean everyone is labelled and forever set in stones at the age of 19, right? Btw, how does it feel that supposedly good bw terran forGG just got kicked out of code A?
@bighandxyz jeez we were talking about the time close to his retirement and the only advantage he had in those days was his macro and his timing attacks were non existent in those days we are not talking about 2008 forgg but 2010 forgg
@flyingmkyman sc2 is just as competitive as brood war. Even more as you got a actual very good match making system that help you play with the same players as your level and advanced through ladder
@jiesheng90 Sorry, i accidently down voted you comment when i meant to up vote :/ But i will just add: MVP has a 73 percent win ratio in SC2...in bw he had 39 percent...it says something about the skill levels...
33 minutes of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@era1337 don't get me wrong, I played competitive games like counter strike 1.6 and broodwar when it was its times, but when the new version comes out like for cs 1.6, cs source I always switched, the same with broodwar I also switched to sc2
@FauvenToTV Boring for you doens't mean it's boring for the rest. And yes, it wasn't meant to be easy game as it is for every bronze-leaguer nowadays. The inherent limitations are what make the higher skill ceiling and where only the best of the best can excell and consistently beat others. You just say it's stupid to play because you can't handle it. For example, look at the upgrades compared to SC2, you don't have spells, speed or range on default. For me, less options actually mean less fun.
@ckhound1 Nada? Come on, he's one of the most consistent S-class players in SC2 and in general still one of the most successful pro gamers for the last 10 years.
How does this make game outdated? It only means that you need better multitasking if you want to succeed in micro and macro. In SC2 every game looks the same. In SC1 each player has a unique style.
Im an SC2 player and also played a few months in iccup, before sc2 was released. BW was waaaaaaay harder . really, everything is hard. In SC2 you can get to the diamond or masters in 1 month or two. Try playing on iccup. I doubt a plat/dia can reach C or C+ in that span of time.
@FauvenToTV For you. If you want easy to start, go play some console games, they are meant for instant fun. Competitive means you have to invest some time and skill into them.
@bighandxyz Forgg was pretty much in a terrible slump before his retirement and could not get playtime from his since the best starcraft player was in his team and was also another terran. @fukstreet Boxer stopped being competitive about 4 years before his switch to SC2, he was somewhat a respected figure but simply does not have anymore mechanical skill to even warrant some playtime.
@tobermyster Nada was doing pretty bad at the end of his Brood War career and WeMade. Same Boxer. They weren't playing, cause they lose to new players.
@bighandxyz forgg was slumping badly before his retirement and forgg was a player renowned for his macro and not strategy or micro something sc2 has pretty much nullified right ? i can guarantee u that if u take anyone of those hungry players like baby or leta hell why not effort and its complete dominance
@MegaFoch You have no idea how wrong your statement is, every last pro who jumped the SC2 bandwagon were old players that simply could not compete with the broodwar pros, even no name B-teamers like MMA and MC could not even compete close to the level of broodwar players, what makes you think they would play SC:BW if they can't even get playtime.
@FauvenToTV WOW, you serious? SC2 is just the half strat than BW...BW wasn't hard to have 12 group or set workers to work...just needed some apm...even d+ player like me (i didnt play any iccup) handle that ok...and 99 is waaaaaay long back...strat evolves every year...SC2 is like...idk, its not bad, but bw is waaaay more fun to watch, since there is people with skill there that wont lose to randoms at ladder...
@Vlakpage nope, sc2 far from casual my friend, and the matc making system is one of the best thing that ever happend to bnet also the skill is the same in both games, it's just some reworked mechanics and everything looks better, I play on low but the game is just better I mean starcraft 1 looks like some old 2d game it sucks no effects, nothing
@MegaFoch u have it exactly the opposit way the players that left broodwar for sc2 left for money + all the new players as well. if you think any pro player from sc1 who is descent wont dominate sc2 u'r out of your dream (nvm i drift from the subject) and sc2 has not exactly evolved enough (yes its a matter of time but still ) only 1 year you really comparing a year to 12 years of no stop games from pro that were probably studied by other pros to find counters and on and on ?
@SCVonSteroids 1) July is old as heck 2)Yes they were shitty b-teamers 3)Just shows how bad sc2 is that you can get 2 gls wins with random gateway timings *caugh* suicide toss * caugh*
SC2 is NOT quite balanced yet. Watching these games, I realize that SC2 still has a ways to go. Fortunately Blizzard really fixed up Starcraft 1, They should be able to do the same with Starcraft 2. I have faith in Blizzard.
still coming back to watch the old gods fighting it out, bw is a beautiful art
가끔 보고싶어지는 띵작
영상 진짜 기가막히게 잘만드셨네
개인적으로 생각하는 최고의 스타1 하이라이트 년도.
the dofference between BW and sc2 is that one is serious the other is a joke
@FauvenToTV THAT IS WHAT THAT MAKES IT SO GOOD! IT IS HARDCORE! SC2 is like a soft version of BW...
what were these 2 players in the last highlight talking to each other?
@cubeface21 yeah I know, I was TRYING to not spoil that game for people who haven't seen it yet
intro song name is korea rpg game "DNF"bgm "squadwar_boss"
Epic highlights ! Just insane what level of micro these ppl are !
In terms of skills, fun, intelligence and speed required to play (in powerlevel).
Powerlevels needed:
BW D rank =200 PL
BW C rank = 250 PL
BW B rank = 500 PL
BW A rank = 1500 PL
Pro = 5000-8000 PL
----
SC2 = Grand master = 300 PL
somewhere between C-B rank in BW
i got a NERDGASM with this video. NICE JOB gathering the games!
@MegaFoch whats fascinating about bw is that its still evolving
and sc2 is a similar but not the same game . with different units and different strategies .
no one assured you its balanced
talk to me in 6 years not that i;m saying its not
its just u cant tell only after a long time of cycles u can really know .
just cause its sc2 doesnt mean it has the balance of 1
끝까지다봤네요. 고생하셨습니다 잘봤습니다^^
what game was the last scene from with the scout + lurker runby
언제봐도 그리운 스타1
양정우 하지만 리마스터
we need scourges back!
please can someone tell me the name of the song that is playing at around 5.54?
It would not be so much epic without korean commentators. Especially their "riva riva riva riva riva" and, of course, "jeeeyjeeeeeeeey"
What is the name of the theme song that starts from 5:50 to 8:30??? Please someone tell me :(
@AlenRyuu people can't get better right? I mean everyone is labelled and forever set in stones at the age of 19, right?
Btw, how does it feel that supposedly good bw terran forGG just got kicked out of code A?
@bighandxyz jeez we were talking about the time close to his retirement
and the only advantage he had in those days was his macro
and his timing attacks were non existent in those days
we are not talking about 2008 forgg but 2010 forgg
what were they saying in the end ?
Excellent highlights, very exciting.
two steps from hell - dragon rider
what video 6 min song name?
BGM TITLE?
@flyingmkyman sc2 is just as competitive as brood war. Even more as you got a actual very good match making system that help you play with the same players as your level and advanced through ladder
@jiesheng90 Sorry, i accidently down voted you comment when i meant to up vote :/ But i will just add: MVP has a 73 percent win ratio in SC2...in bw he had 39 percent...it says something about the skill levels...
8:43 - Battlecruiser 1: What the fuck is happening?!, Battlecruiser 2: We lost the war..
33 minutes of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Thank you!
whats is the Intro song?
@lizhiwen20 the only thing that was harder about SC1 was managing UI.
Ty
@era1337 don't get me wrong, I played competitive games like counter strike 1.6 and broodwar when it was its times, but when the new version comes out like for cs 1.6, cs source I always switched, the same with broodwar I also switched to sc2
the best part is when the commentators say... 25:18 WEB WEB WEBBB WEBBBB!!!
song that start around 6:00?
5분 부터 나오는 노래 제목이 뭔가요
@jiesheng90 yes but i would like to see what happens when the BW pros switch to sc2
So weird to see flash losing in this vid, even though it's only from last year. Begs the question: "Flash can lose games?"
whats the song palying at 6:06
start 6 Min
what song title?
dragon rider 2 steps from hell, jsut remembered
highlight of your life.
im quite sure it s from Gears of war or maybe final fantasy but..
Why is this the 10th most popular video on "listenonrepeat"? People watch this video over and over in a row? o.O
@MegaFoch out dated??? if u are thinking in terms of graphics
a game is out dated a year after its sold
in terms of balance for an rts game its unique
@FauvenToTV Boring for you doens't mean it's boring for the rest. And yes, it wasn't meant to be easy game as it is for every bronze-leaguer nowadays. The inherent limitations are what make the higher skill ceiling and where only the best of the best can excell and consistently beat others. You just say it's stupid to play because you can't handle it. For example, look at the upgrades compared to SC2, you don't have spells, speed or range on default. For me, less options actually mean less fun.
@ckhound1 Nada? Come on, he's one of the most consistent S-class players in SC2 and in general still one of the most successful pro gamers for the last 10 years.
@eskocz its 2012 already! why u still watch baseball?
@refusedchad That's adorable.
@MegaFoch rofl, saying both games does require the same skill level. Do you know who is the best SC2 player? a Woongjin Terran. WOOGJIN.
thanks u for the good video !
0:54 god
How does this make game outdated? It only means that you need better multitasking if you want to succeed in micro and macro. In SC2 every game looks the same. In SC1 each player has a unique style.
@0Radex call of duty in general. as in MW3 and the next call of duty and the one after that
Im an SC2 player and also played a few months in iccup, before sc2 was released. BW was waaaaaaay harder . really, everything is hard. In SC2 you can get to the diamond or masters in 1 month or two. Try playing on iccup. I doubt a plat/dia can reach C or C+ in that span of time.
@FauvenToTV For you. If you want easy to start, go play some console games, they are meant for instant fun. Competitive means you have to invest some time and skill into them.
@bighandxyz Forgg was pretty much in a terrible slump before his retirement and could not get playtime from his since the best starcraft player was in his team and was also another terran.
@fukstreet Boxer stopped being competitive about 4 years before his switch to SC2, he was somewhat a respected figure but simply does not have anymore mechanical skill to even warrant some playtime.
7:25 plz link to the match bisu vs flash
@MegaFoch Casual spotted!
Amazing!
@tobermyster Nada was doing pretty bad at the end of his Brood War career and WeMade. Same Boxer. They weren't playing, cause they lose to new players.
you make my day! :D
=o please any one link me the hive techs ZvZ's in this vid, ive never seen a hive zvz ever
lmaoo this video: flash losing a game = as rare/spectacular as hive tech ZvZ :))))
how old are you? 12?
@Telanhzan People don't imagine that BW is better, it simply is better.
이영호 이건 뭐하는놈이여 ㄷㄷ
@MegaFoch You have got to be trolling with that comment. SC2 is just as competitive as brood war... BECAUSE OF THE LADDER!??!
@bighandxyz forgg was slumping badly before his retirement
and forgg was a player renowned for his macro and not strategy or micro
something sc2 has pretty much nullified right ?
i can guarantee u that if u take anyone of those hungry players like baby or leta hell why not effort
and its complete dominance
@Darkmage5671 yea considering it came out in 98 however this game takes skill to play not just a pansy ass four gate
@locomotive147 You're so execly right...
lmfao at this fucking popped collar lol
@MegaFoch You have no idea how wrong your statement is, every last pro who jumped the SC2 bandwagon were old players that simply could not compete with the broodwar pros, even no name B-teamers like MMA and MC could not even compete close to the level of broodwar players, what makes you think they would play SC:BW if they can't even get playtime.
영호 스타2흥해라@@@@@@@@@@
@jiesheng90 its a 12 year old game I hope people were amazing at it...
@refusedchad Recently lost vs Dear :( Such a long streak.
herp derp hurrrr dan dan dandandandandandandananananaa huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
best game ever !
newbie is not an insult...
Commentators had so many nerdgasms.
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what the hell jaedong, you used to be the master ):
@jiesheng90 Nada, July these 2 players, just because people are good at BW means nothing about SC2.
@FauvenToTV WOW, you serious? SC2 is just the half strat than BW...BW wasn't hard to have 12 group or set workers to work...just needed some apm...even d+ player like me (i didnt play any iccup) handle that ok...and 99 is waaaaaay long back...strat evolves every year...SC2 is like...idk, its not bad, but bw is waaaay more fun to watch, since there is people with skill there that wont lose to randoms at ladder...
@TheBarbahaba forGG was not known for his macro, he was known for his strategy and crispy timing attacks.
jesus you don't know anything
I was hoping to see Bisu jumping, but T___T
@Vlakpage nope, sc2 far from casual my friend, and the matc making system is one of the best thing that ever happend to bnet also the skill is the same in both games, it's just some reworked mechanics and everything looks better, I play on low but the game is just better I mean starcraft 1 looks like some old 2d game it sucks no effects, nothing
AAAAAAS OOOOO AAAAA CHINDA CHINDA HAKTIN YIDEOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GEEEEGEEEEEEE
@jiesheng90 Almost correct. MMA and MC are definitely not as bad as you say they are, and saying so is a bit disrespectful.
@era1337 Nothing can take out BW but BW itself!
N O O B ! ! ! !
@MegaFoch u have it exactly the opposit way
the players that left broodwar for sc2 left for money + all the new players as well.
if you think any pro player from sc1 who is descent wont dominate sc2 u'r out of your dream (nvm i drift from the subject)
and sc2 has not exactly evolved enough (yes its a matter of time but still ) only 1 year
you really comparing a year to 12 years of no stop games from pro that were probably studied by other pros to find counters and on and on ?
omg its jackie chan
@SCVonSteroids
1) July is old as heck
2)Yes they were shitty b-teamers
3)Just shows how bad sc2 is that you can get 2 gls wins with random gateway timings *caugh* suicide toss * caugh*
I think it's because it's got a consistent number of Asians yelling throughout the entire video.
yomanyo13 correct, i played SC2 for 2 weeks but felt bored, so I move to BW. BTW new SC2:HoTS kinda sucks
at least in BW when u get beaten its cuz of skill regardless
SC2 is NOT quite balanced yet. Watching these games, I realize that SC2 still has a ways to go. Fortunately Blizzard really fixed up Starcraft 1, They should be able to do the same with Starcraft 2. I have faith in Blizzard.