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  • Southern University vs. Texas Southern 2016
    Crankfest Volume 2
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  • @iXperienceIII
    @iXperienceIII 7 років тому +98

    Who else started skipping txsu playing?

  • @LiverpoolFan74
    @LiverpoolFan74 7 років тому +38

    Did you see the crowd at 17:32??? CLASSIC!! They knew that it was over!!!

  • @lakeasha1000
    @lakeasha1000 7 років тому +31

    BITCH that 16 count LORDT 😩😩😩😩 C'Mon Danielle you not playing fair anymore!!! 😍😩 and they bless my ears everytime they play Tourist!!!!!

    • @lovedavis9523
      @lovedavis9523 7 років тому +4

      Lakeasha Johnson did you see when the other dance line did they counts I wouldn't play either straight disrespect !

  • @hazzaustin5571
    @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому +60

    What the hell are they feeding them euphoniums at SU!! Lord

    • @kingnicc3589
      @kingnicc3589 7 років тому +16

      haz Austin Brian was a euphonium player 😂😂 He know how they posed to sound nd He got them boys killing ear drums 😭

    • @DeltaBandDirector
      @DeltaBandDirector 7 років тому +1

      It's not what they feeding them, it is the HORNS....

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому +6

      Clover Lacy Jr I respect your response ..I'm a baritone /euphonium player.. trust me when I say yes euphoniums are more powerful then a baritone it also takes more air and you have to work harder to play on. Pv has 20 euphoniums and sound no where near as powerful as su and they only have 18. So what I'm saying is you have to be a beast to so like that

    • @georgemellomadness0560
      @georgemellomadness0560 7 років тому +4

      haz Austin You must not hear Txsu euphos?

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому +11

      M Boy oh yes I heard them loud and clear I was stating of how powerful SU euphos was.. they both was strong but su was strong and the range they was playing in was ridiculous and txsu was strong as well to

  • @jaymalone355
    @jaymalone355 7 років тому +19

    Ain't nobody fckin wit tht su jungle tho 🔥🔥

  • @bladebrown6842
    @bladebrown6842 7 років тому +24

    I'm convinced Su has a Human Jukebox concentration camp somewhere underground. Shit don't make no sense

    • @alvincrockett503
      @alvincrockett503 7 років тому +1

      Blade Brown They actually do have the High school Southern University band camp.

  • @Caraudiofinatics
    @Caraudiofinatics 7 років тому +15

    LOL This Battle was over after the first note of Black Beatles 😂😂

  • @theeantt7355
    @theeantt7355 7 років тому +21

    Another 16 count!! Stamped!!

  • @colbybreezy985
    @colbybreezy985 7 років тому +12

    RIP To Texas Southern Band

  • @labarre06
    @labarre06 7 років тому +25

    Why TXSU cymbals coming down the stairs like somebody forced too ? "Man ion wanna go down there and make a fool of myself"

    • @derre11_
      @derre11_ 7 років тому +4

      labarre06 right😂😂

    • @ChefGB337
      @ChefGB337 2 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🔪🩸☠

  • @TMiles84
    @TMiles84 7 років тому +18

    the juke damn near cave the roof in on that tourist....I thought I saw a few bricks and beams fall from the sky #power

  • @sladybrumfield
    @sladybrumfield 7 років тому +17

    SU all the way I haven't seen no band top them yet. Way to go SU.

    • @romanecrawford8540
      @romanecrawford8540 6 місяців тому

      Me either 😂💪🏾 there aren't none 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @demarcushenderson1113
    @demarcushenderson1113 7 років тому +12

    su just like symphonized headphones no match

  • @tarponpride620
    @tarponpride620 7 років тому +49

    This a DAMN SHAME. 1 BAND SHOULD NOT be getting PUNISHED LIKE THIS. Y'all CALL 2 MORE BANDS to make it FAIR. People GONNA LEARN to STOP INVITING SU to THERE HOME. Just makes you feel UNCOMFORTABLE in YOUR SHIT. LOL

    • @kingnicc3589
      @kingnicc3589 7 років тому +4

      Tarpon pride On God

    • @cordellj824
      @cordellj824 7 років тому +4

      Tarpon pride weak😂😂 but true

  • @cuhleebfilms4559
    @cuhleebfilms4559 7 років тому +6

    su trumpets 💯💯🔥🔥😩🎺🎺

  • @jonmax1229
    @jonmax1229 7 років тому +13

    the crowd reaction at 17:35 put the nail in the coffin.

  • @mrhunt1077
    @mrhunt1077 7 років тому +6

    they waxed that ass SU was on point the hold battle

  • @lsubandtrumpet2014
    @lsubandtrumpet2014 7 років тому +3

    Baritones, Sousaphones, and Mellos, AMAZING enterance 3:45-4:12

  • @MASON858
    @MASON858 7 років тому +9

    TxSU folk just slowly set down when they start play!!!Damn.

  • @Bandcentral
    @Bandcentral 7 років тому +10

    southern💪💪💪💪💪

  • @nathanlivingston6130
    @nathanlivingston6130 7 років тому +11

    SU SMASH! (HULK VOICE)

  • @HaskinsPhotography
    @HaskinsPhotography 7 років тому +8

    Southern University did their thing 👍🏼

  • @Blakmajik78
    @Blakmajik78 7 років тому +13

    My God Southern University.....just straight murdering. Ocean of soul sounds good though, but a little over their heads with this battle.

  • @Kingsec10
    @Kingsec10 7 років тому +9

    "Why y'all keep on fucking with them people"?

  • @brianrfrank47
    @brianrfrank47 7 років тому +16

    AS I SIT DOWN AND WATCH THIS TRAGEDY, TSU FANS REALLY ENJOYING THEIR OWN FUNERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!

    • @SUMPhiB08
      @SUMPhiB08 7 років тому +2

      brian frank "In Loving Memory..."

  • @Brownlee777
    @Brownlee777 7 років тому +4

    SU got serious!!!

  • @sheadadam
    @sheadadam 7 років тому +11

    damn this was a long ass battle

    • @danielowens9979
      @danielowens9979 7 років тому +14

      I said same thing 40 minute part two lol.. but you know a lot of folks paying. gotta give em a good show too

  • @Juss_Choc
    @Juss_Choc 7 років тому +29

    Southern second song was dangerous😰🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏾

    • @Juss_Choc
      @Juss_Choc 7 років тому +18

      P.S. Bayou Classic is going to be a homicide😍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @318lovejones
      @318lovejones 7 років тому +4

      New Orleans police department might as well bring that yellow tape because its gonna be a crime scene.

    • @josecayette958
      @josecayette958 7 років тому +3

      +Armard Young u is right damn that song was super 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @iXperienceIII
      @iXperienceIII 7 років тому +5

      +Armard Young 25 to life for the whole band

    • @Juss_Choc
      @Juss_Choc 7 років тому +3

      I Play tuba Free the Human Jukebox🗣😭

  • @robertjackson4102
    @robertjackson4102 7 років тому +3

    This was a complete blowout hands down. Straight facts...

  • @vincentsmith2223
    @vincentsmith2223 7 років тому +8

    southern playing with these lil boys to much power!!!

    • @LuckyDaVinci
      @LuckyDaVinci 7 років тому +7

      Vincent Smith SU never gets tired

  • @bone749
    @bone749 7 років тому +11

    Su is the best band the dolls are beautiful the band and directors loves to battle and when u have that. Su will always stay on top

    • @jugg3
      @jugg3 7 років тому +5

      Ant Bone always👌🏽

    • @stickdog1230
      @stickdog1230 7 років тому

      Ant Bone lmao the best at being loud thats about it

    • @Flavaflav555
      @Flavaflav555 6 років тому

      Late reply, but shut yo ass up hating ass fool.

  • @chickmagnet225713
    @chickmagnet225713 7 років тому +5

    Good Try TxSu. These boys on another level. 4real.

  • @geannaking7571
    @geannaking7571 7 років тому +8

    I would love to say to the s.u dancing dolls y'all did y'all thang and y'all was very lady like with it and I really and truly look up to you ladies congrad to y'all on y'all winning over texsu yea for my jaguar fam

  • @darianhud6467
    @darianhud6467 7 років тому +8

    how you take a L on your home turf then this was just half the band

  • @MrPesante2008
    @MrPesante2008 7 років тому +8

    Su tore Txsu a new one!

  • @iXperienceIII
    @iXperienceIII 7 років тому +2

    Tourist is that trap card from Yu gi oh lmao

  • @irvingettridge4656
    @irvingettridge4656 5 років тому +3

    I know this old but I just noticed that the juke turned an cranked on the wall when they played tourist ,mad disrespectful HaHa!!

  • @ernestfox4880
    @ernestfox4880 3 роки тому +2

    I'm gonna say this... nobody should be booing these kids... they're in college doing something with their lives...SU or TxSU!!!

  • @nolabroskie3273
    @nolabroskie3273 7 років тому +5

    sssssSU🔥🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪

  • @DatBoiLow4
    @DatBoiLow4 7 років тому +15

    I hope PV understands they could've gotten a lil more of this 😂😂😂

    • @brandonflemings9734
      @brandonflemings9734 7 років тому +3

      Well of course, and you all could have got a lil bit more of the PV Storms. Good job tho to SU. They going to trash Gsu who has all those lil break up and make up love songs.

  • @spriiteev
    @spriiteev Рік тому

    17:29 is where SU plays tourist for anyone wondering

  • @chickmagnet225713
    @chickmagnet225713 7 років тому +12

    I would say TxSu was way way out of their league on this one. They probably should focus on battling all star high school bands

    • @kingnicc3589
      @kingnicc3589 7 років тому +4

      chickmagnet225713 hell yuh 💀💀really should

  • @LuckyDaVinci
    @LuckyDaVinci 7 років тому +24

    When tourists came in i got scared

    • @trauncealfredjr169
      @trauncealfredjr169 7 років тому +6

      I was there.:.. my head is beaming

    • @georgemellomadness0560
      @georgemellomadness0560 7 років тому +2

      Almighty DaVinci that's the loudest song they got

    • @LuckyDaVinci
      @LuckyDaVinci 7 років тому

      M Boy facts.

    • @bone749
      @bone749 7 років тому +1

      Almighty DaVinci. thats not the loudest song they got

    • @LuckyDaVinci
      @LuckyDaVinci 7 років тому +1

      Ant Bone between that and memoirs. But hustla musik from 2014 🔥

  • @IrvPayne
    @IrvPayne 7 років тому +8

    I haven't seen Southern pushed like this in ages. My man Ogre doing it nice for TxSU. Got em cleaner than I've ever heard them. SU during that Jeezey though (smfh... I had the Steebie J face fr ☠️ lol )

  • @brianreleford693
    @brianreleford693 7 років тому +5

    MAN I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS SONG IS @ THE 6:55 MARK BUT ......SHHEEEEEEEESH!!!!!!!

    • @timburrage6628
      @timburrage6628 7 років тому +2

      Brian Releford it's bad and boujee by migos

  • @DeltaBandDirector
    @DeltaBandDirector 7 років тому +5

    Guy in the red saying Damnit What the hell?

  • @lknightt
    @lknightt 7 років тому +20

    So we didn't get a fifth quarter because txsu wanted to hold out for this.smdh yall should've just took the L at the game.yhis was a slaughterfest.SU had y'all ass for breakfast,lunch,and dinner and don't forget about desert.😎

    • @angelgonzalez14
      @angelgonzalez14 7 років тому +2

      lknightt both agreed no 5th, that's why SU had that promo vid already up before end of the game

    • @lknightt
      @lknightt 7 років тому +2

      Angel Gonzalez O ok bro didn't know

  • @2turntdeon
    @2turntdeon 7 років тому +7

    daamn im not a su tip rider im a jsu fan but txsu got punished

  • @jodyjames3680
    @jodyjames3680 7 років тому +6

    SU trumpets was shitn on erbody

    • @jugg3
      @jugg3 7 років тому +6

      Jody James SU got the best trumpets in the hbcu

    • @kingnicc3589
      @kingnicc3589 7 років тому +1

      RayRay Got Kicks yup

  • @talismenf2253
    @talismenf2253 6 років тому

    What is su saying in there horn up chant???

  • @darwinalvarez1121
    @darwinalvarez1121 6 років тому

    was txsu first song name ??

  • @Dubb14
    @Dubb14 7 років тому +3

    ocean 2nd song sounds jukeboxish 😂😂

  • @carolynmcneese2701
    @carolynmcneese2701 7 років тому +5

    S U!!!

  • @will_copprue504
    @will_copprue504 7 років тому +9

    Question:Do song selection count or is this just a volume battle???

    • @J.Nev.
      @J.Nev. 7 років тому +6

      Will Copprue In Texas Southern Defense ... Volume 😂

  • @mr.igohard6958
    @mr.igohard6958 5 років тому

    Than what ended the whole battle

  • @lsubandtrumpet2014
    @lsubandtrumpet2014 7 років тому

    whats the song at 3:58?

  • @e-liegoldmane4459
    @e-liegoldmane4459 7 років тому +5

    txsu gotta start working on how they sound an not being loud. cause TXSU sounds bad.

  • @AFLive
    @AFLive 7 років тому +12

    Damn txsu Pushin 🔥tho 2, I think Txsu Got many Haters 😑😑😑 Be a fan, but dont say ish like Killed, murdered & Dat wasn't da case ! thank u

    • @lovedavis9523
      @lovedavis9523 7 років тому +3

      A F Live uh the band was okay but the dance line ummm disrespectful and sloppy period you should never do another dance line 8 count in they face they need to be classy

    • @AFLive
      @AFLive 7 років тому +1

      Love Davis Thats why i Said Su comment sec. Since its THEY HOUSE, They shudda had *Neva. Props*, Flag girls, secret mics, Bias Mc, Old Heads, Da whole Circus. 4 These Su Super Fans.

  • @JohnnyGinnCarpeDiemFilms
    @JohnnyGinnCarpeDiemFilms 7 років тому

    that noise song good hard from txsu

  • @user-tk1tq1kp9t
    @user-tk1tq1kp9t 7 років тому +15

    I feel soooooo sorry for gram lol

    • @cordellj824
      @cordellj824 7 років тому

      Karless 1911 me too lmaooooo

    • @marvellelarue3378
      @marvellelarue3378 7 років тому +1

      if they held they own with jsu they gone do the same they always have some what up they sleeve. Last year they did good.

    • @jugg3
      @jugg3 7 років тому +3

      Karless 1911 Ima be there to witness that murder😭

    • @marvellelarue3378
      @marvellelarue3378 7 років тому +2

      +RayRay Got Kicks i hope its a good battle

  • @nuone97
    @nuone97 7 років тому

    What's the name of the song played by SU @ 17:32?

  • @curtisbailey1305
    @curtisbailey1305 7 років тому

    OMG can anybody tell me the name of the song that SU played @17:41

  • @stephendavis3993
    @stephendavis3993 7 років тому +7

    this was definitely a better battle than the #SUJUWho crankfest... IMO, SU takes the W but definitely not by much...

  • @kamoxi4252
    @kamoxi4252 7 років тому

    That And Then What is a Sonic Phenomenon.

  • @JSUALLDAY1
    @JSUALLDAY1 7 років тому +8

    su 2nd song bad and boujee by migos

  • @Foreignvibesss
    @Foreignvibesss 7 років тому +8

    what is the song at 24:00

    • @darrius11234
      @darrius11234 7 років тому +3

      mouhamadou kane the jungle

  • @xDatBoiCari
    @xDatBoiCari 7 років тому +1

    whats the name of the song txsu play at 4:00

    • @josephcrump1275
      @josephcrump1275 7 років тому

      Cariyon Berry Grass ain't greener by Chris Brown

  • @kelvinberry23
    @kelvinberry23 7 років тому

    Song at 22:40?

  • @b-rice5751
    @b-rice5751 7 років тому

    song??? 34:00

  • @cjbossin97
    @cjbossin97 7 років тому +3

    At 7:31, what song is that?

  • @amiel5408
    @amiel5408 7 років тому +1

    Song SU played around 7:00 ? 🤔👀

    • @TRIN
      @TRIN 7 років тому +2

      Amiel Muhammad bad & boujee - migos

  • @brianrfrank47
    @brianrfrank47 7 років тому +8

    NO FCKN COMPARISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SU EMBARRASED THIS LITTO BAND

  • @trk327
    @trk327 4 роки тому

    Soon as tourist started, it was like the scene in A color purple when ole girl slapped Ms. Sophia..."welp!! Time to go!!"

  • @drewm3610
    @drewm3610 7 років тому +6

    Texas southern go practice !!!! Y'all lost

  • @kamoxi4252
    @kamoxi4252 7 років тому +3

    Also why do I hear people in the crowd speaking down to Southern's book when TSU is getting tapped in sound, book, all aspects. Stop being butt hurt and enjoy the show.

  • @yungstarjc4094
    @yungstarjc4094 7 років тому +3

    Texas had more swag and better playlist but SU did sound a little clearer and louder

  • @donkeevainbrooks5349
    @donkeevainbrooks5349 7 років тому +1

    TxSU

    • @jugg3
      @jugg3 7 років тому +1

      Donkeevain Brooks 👉🏾 🚪

  • @mr.gonzales3623
    @mr.gonzales3623 7 років тому +2

    whatever that song is at about 1:00 min in
    😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊

  • @theonemusicproductions4099
    @theonemusicproductions4099 6 років тому

    Song? 12:48??

  • @iXperienceIII
    @iXperienceIII 7 років тому +1

    @ 31:23 "PLAY SUM NEW BITCH"

  • @marvellelarue3378
    @marvellelarue3378 7 років тому

    man them wood winds of txsu is playing too damn late

  • @MrTae254
    @MrTae254 7 років тому +2

    All Yall Just Talking Like TXSU wasnt Blowing Back Or Some

    • @bigshow2cool
      @bigshow2cool 7 років тому +1

      tae tae Moore I like txsu this year they like a pit bull... powerful for their size but su is like wolf. It's just not fair!

  • @devinsbt
    @devinsbt Рік тому

    Song at 12:50

  • @iXperienceIII
    @iXperienceIII 7 років тому

    song @37:15?

    • @ChefGB337
      @ChefGB337 2 роки тому

      Stuntin like my daddy lil wayne

  • @passinowt6068
    @passinowt6068 3 роки тому

    Lmao that dance captain must’ve wanted to be a Doll or something... she was trying way to hard to prove something and them Dolls were unbothered lol!

  • @nickh3848
    @nickh3848 7 років тому +1

    @ 17:34......thats when TSU knew........they had fucd up. Pass the blunt and shades to SU (thug life!!!)

  • @talismenf2253
    @talismenf2253 6 років тому +2

    And yes this is nothing new or amazing from southern it's what they do and known for but you have to give credit where credit is due to TXSU they blowing hard and dont sound to bad. Not on SU level but they ready

  • @playball8439
    @playball8439 7 років тому +5

    Txsu actually held theirs

  • @kayonjohnson8119
    @kayonjohnson8119 7 років тому +3

    When did she throw the 16 count?

  • @swaclyfe5727
    @swaclyfe5727 7 років тому +8

    I love SU!!!!!!!!! But Txsu And Alcorn give better battles then JSU

    • @jmy1572
      @jmy1572 7 років тому +5

      SWAC LYFE lies! 😂😂😂

    • @tarponpride620
      @tarponpride620 7 років тому +5

      jeremy wallace THAT'S THE TRUTH. J-STATE SOUNDED BETTER LAST YEAR. And P.V. and ALCORN STEP THERE GAME UP THIS YEAR. J-STATE took a LOT OF L'S THIS YEAR. I COUNTED ATLEAST 3.

    • @talismenf2253
      @talismenf2253 6 років тому

      Facts

  • @e-liegoldmane4459
    @e-liegoldmane4459 7 років тому +4

    about time the boys started pushing them new horns. jsu baritones still better this year.☺

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому +4

      Chaos WHITE no they not .. jsu btones are weaker this year.. su has the loudest btone section this season

    • @J.Nev.
      @J.Nev. 7 років тому

      Chaos WHITE I Heard JSU Btones At ASU And They Sounded Thin...

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому

      Seth.N I don't think jsu btones sound thin I think they just need more because they mellos be over powering the band. And they don't have any trumpets either

    • @J.Nev.
      @J.Nev. 7 років тому

      haz Austin That Was My Opinion .

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому

      Seth.N true factz !! I can agree with what you said about thin because they can be thin at times but it might just be due to numbers

  • @aersity3544
    @aersity3544 2 роки тому

    3:45

  • @dajuanvariste4751
    @dajuanvariste4751 7 років тому +4

    Is that even SU whole band ??

    • @jugg3
      @jugg3 7 років тому +1

      Da'juan Variste I don't think so

    • @georgemellomadness0560
      @georgemellomadness0560 7 років тому

      Da'juan Variste yea it is. they not that big this year. alcorn got the biggest swac band this year

    • @hazzaustin5571
      @hazzaustin5571 7 років тому +3

      M Boy and alcorn should be the loudest but they aren't that's kind of crazy. Su and jsu and more powerful than alcorn

    • @JayBFilms
      @JayBFilms 7 років тому

      haz Austin alcorn isn't the biggest lol they got more tubas than su and 4 more baritones and mellos... jsu and su both have more trumpets than alcorn

  • @jonmax1229
    @jonmax1229 7 років тому +1

    TxSU tried! A for effort

  • @romanecrawford8540
    @romanecrawford8540 6 місяців тому

    Why TSU woke up the beast they did it to themselves 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Dubb14
    @Dubb14 7 років тому +5

    Su 2nd song sounds sonic boomish

    • @youngmoolah3113
      @youngmoolah3113 7 років тому +4

      dubb14 negative 😂

    • @LuckyDaVinci
      @LuckyDaVinci 7 років тому +1

      dubb14 it kinda do but with su Perks like balance and trumpets

    • @marionmarion6852
      @marionmarion6852 7 років тому

      dubb14 how when jsu sound came from su ......

    • @Whoswac
      @Whoswac 7 років тому +2

      dubb14 do kinda sound like a boom arrangement

    • @tarponpride620
      @tarponpride620 7 років тому +1

      MrSonicboom1 Boy J-STATE WISH there ARRANGEMENTS was THIS CLEAN. GO BACK TO BEGGING DR. MURRAY TO COME BACK TO J-STATE.

  • @fabionwilson6992
    @fabionwilson6992 7 років тому

    Right I'm like is he trying to represent his school colors lol

  • @IamJesusWalks
    @IamJesusWalks 7 років тому +1

    @18:44 that SAME ASS DANCE SU WOODWINDS. 4TH TIME.
    I have a feeling I'll see it another 6 times before I get to the end.
    PLEASSSSSSSEEEEEE FIND ANOTHER DANCE!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASEEEEE!!

  • @REPUBLICANSAREBEYONDSTUPID
    @REPUBLICANSAREBEYONDSTUPID 7 років тому +1

    Obviously this was a battle to see which band can play the most incorrect pitches and which band can be the farthest out of tune. And it's a damn shame that folks are "ooh-ing" and "ahh-ing" this crap. Now watch how many dumbasses come at me EVEN though both bands are playing wrong pitches GALORE! SMDH

  • @IamJesusWalks
    @IamJesusWalks 7 років тому +2

    @13:18 Just my observation
    If you really study the Dolls moves, if they weren't pretty and didn't have an air about themselves, they are relatively boring compared to some other groups and vastly uneventful. I buy the elegance and class nonetheless.