Millies, fuck right off! You might think it's funny but if you earned your living as a singer or actor (or teacher), yes, you really would cry if you seriously damaged your voice.
Finally I know what's happening with my voice from this video. I told even professional singers that my voice hurts after singing and I feel as if there is a veil on it. At it's worsts I will try to hit a note and another will "bounce". I am surprised that so many people I asked couldn't tell me what that is. Thank god we have the internet! This video is extremely informative.The bad news is that my vocal cords seem to be damaged. The good news is that now I wont push them thinking "I just need more practice".
Hey I’m a bit worried, Bc ever since I woke up this morning my voice has been very tingly it doesn’t hurt but it’s been tingly, and idk if there is something wrong with it or it’s natural or if it’s gonna be part of puberty
Thanks for your good comment. Swelling checks allow every singer to establish a personal "baseline" when they first become aware of vocal cord swelling checks. This baseline can be determined, no matter what the voice type, singing style, and whether the vocal cords are normal or already damaged. Then, going forward, you can monitor to make sure that baseline is either stable or improving, and not deteriorating. It allows one to know when they have "overdone it" and created even subtle swelling. It would permit one to know that existing mucosal injury is resolving, if the baseline is improving (meaning the "initial mucosal ceiling is rising, semitone by semitone). For persons well-versed in expected range for all of the various voice classifications, it can be used as well to compare with the "group" to which they belong.
Laryngopedia What's the name of the part of the throat that can make a tone, but can swell if you sing too high?But the swelling goes down and its hard for an ent to detect where the problem is because the swelling went away?
what are common causes of injuries? I am young 21 years old, I drank a lot in my first year of college about 12 drinks a week of alcohol basically every week. (most of the time not in one night, over the course of a week like two or three in one night or just one) I did that for a year and a half, and then in my second year cut back a bit and now in my third year I drink only one drink a night and often only 5 to 6 drinks a week. I also smoked cigars for three years (about 10 to 15 cigars a year. I didn't inhale) and lately over the last 4 weeks I have had a sore throat. it has gone down a lot within the last week (i barely feel any pain if not at all) but my larynx sometimes chokes up. I will be talking or singing and if I sing or use my voice in a certain way I get this very unpleasant choked up scratchy pain in my vocal cords and I cough for a bit and it goes away. in my regular talking voice this is much more rare but if i speak in a certain way (normally opening my throat right up) that is when it happens. Can you help me figure out what this is? will it go away? I have seen doctors and they sort of brush it off as just a viral infection but it has lasted a while. not much pain but i get that choking feeling when I use my voice a certain way and I have a decent amount of phlegm. Thanks!
@@blackridgeproductions2738 when you go get it checked do you also mention aboutvthe alchool and smoking? If not then tell them. If yes then you should probably get and chest X-ray and make an allergy test !! If ypu have done those and they come back as negative then i think the reason should probably be the smoking and the alchool (considering you dont have any other diseases whether they are inhereted or cronic diseases) The alchool and the smoking affect your voice tremendously much . Thats why singers never drink alchool because it totally ruins your voice. As for smoking the particles of the smoke (whether you inhale it or not) get stuck in your respiratory system, more like your larynx (upper throat) and make breathing and singing more difficult because air cannot pass freely in the airways. Also the pleghm is because of smoking . All those cigarette particles, and all the bacteria that they gather builds up the pleghm. And the alchool also decreases the immunity system which means that more bacteria will come inside your body. The pleghm is the way your body fights the bacteria that enters. So the more pleghm the more you have damaged your vocal chords, your airways, and your immunity system. I dont want to scare you but if you continue smoking and drinking not only will you loose the ability to sing but you will also are gonna be at a high risk for lung cancer! And especially now at this times when you can also get corona. So please be careful. Take care of yourself and stop smoking
I traveled from Canada to Chicago, USA to see Dr. Bastien in 2010. In Canada, our waiting lists are so long, often we don't get a chance to see the doctor before it's too late. So, I crossed the border and saw Dr. Bastien to help me with a swallowing disorder I was experiencing. Dr. Bastien was so good. He gave me a full examination, scheduled a swallowing test at the hospital for me the same day and then met with me and reviewed the results, again all within the same day. I couldn't believe how good his care was compared to what I experience in Canaada. I am so thankful that he sees international patients because timely care is everything when someone is sick and needs medical treatment.
Hi Dr. B. Thanks for doing this. It was brilliant of you to do so. Folks, I’m a voice actor by trade. This man actually IS my vocal Dr. in Chicago. He’s brilliant, gentle, and saved my voice.
A week before an entrance exam to music school, this happened to me, unfortunately, due to some misuse of my voice (ironically not singing, but too much talking at a dinner party). I couldn't get an appointment with an ENT, but the next day I had a lesson with my voice teacher. I told her I wasn't feeling well.She thought I was just not breathing correctly, or that I was tense, and she kept urging me to "sing out", until I said enough since I started feeling fatigue shortly into the lesson. She just couldn't take me seriously because I was able to phonate anyway, but it was horrible, just like in this video. I'm going to send her this video just to show her that this is a serious issue and not an issue of technique. Vocal professionals need people like you to educate them like this. Thank you!
This is what my teacher told me to. It’s sad. She thinks I’m just paranoid and sabotaging my voice, when really all I want is to learn to sing in a healthy way. I wished you all the best.🤍
That’s crazy, I would think that’s these vocal coaches would learn how to do this or do sow actually studying and research on Bacall cords and talk to doctors. That’s what I would do if I were a vocal coach cause I ain’t tranna mess up nobodies voice.
You are helping give my life back! I do not know what I would do without singing. Overuse has me swollen just enough and I could not figure out what was wrong. These checks help me monitor things! This is a great video!
Fantastic video help! Doctors and even other professional singers couldn't help me beyond saying "rest the voice" and "take these steroids for a few days." Yes, these were part of what I learned from this video but BEYOND THAT, I got all that I needed to reassure myself (I was freaking out lately) that I could heal, and learned about tools to monitor and care for my voice going forward. I am a trial lawyer and a singer as well, so I am in the 'overdoer' category by trade and choice. THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN, doctor! I'm sharing this video with many others who I am sure will be grateful that someone out there actually cared enough to post online HELP without a doctor's visit.:)
I cried and cried in college going through my voice degree constantly being told I was cracking because I was afraid of the high notes yet still forced into being a soprano. It never failed to be in the same spots (and never mind that I can sing way above the ugly crack). I’ve learned to muscle my way around them, but I know that it just takes one tiny slip up on a bad day to make me sound like an elk. I’ve never heard anyone else make this wookiee sound so it’s always made me feel alone and given me terrible performance anxiety. Although I wish I would’ve seen it when you first posted it, I feel like a weight has been lifted. I’m looking forward to taking vocal rest seriously in hopes of having a fluid range one day. This was inspirational, extremely informative, and gave me hope again. Thank you!!
Dr. Bastian, thank you thank you thank you SO MUCH for this video. I'm a singer/vocal student and I've been frustrated in my inability to hit my usual soprano notes, to the point where I have just been singing mezzo soprano. Whereas I used to be able to hit a C6 without too much difficulty when singing, suddenly I was struggling to get up above G5. Randomly this weekend, like a secret voice in my head, something made me wonder if my cords were damaged, and searching led me to this video. Lo and behold! I tested myself and in that barely audible squeak of happy birthday, I couldn't get up above my CHEST VOICE without having breathy/whistly onsets. I thing I got stuck at a really low note like G4 before there was some resistance as you mentioned. I swore off singing (and most talking) for a few days, and I just did the test today. My throat felt kind of different this morning, and now my voice went up to about F5 with the test. I warmed up and I have my C6 back! You've saved my voice today, and you've potentially saved my voice for the long term as I'm only two years into my singing career. Thank you so much for literally saving peoples' livelihoods. Vocal fold swelling checks do indeed keep the doctor away!😅
Thank you for your question. The answer is "no." To expand: The tasks are not for vocal grooming nor for rehabilitation. Their purpose is solely to detect swelling. Since they are by design produced with a very tiny, quiet voice, and since it takes well under a minute to accomplish them, vocal cord swelling checks have no potential whatsoever to cause injury.
Hello -_- i want to ask you a question, so 4 days ago i had party with my friends and on that night, im consume alcohol(vodka) and tobacco, then in the morning after partying hard i still can speak or talk with ordinary voice but i cant sing while the song using high pitch my throat is hurt, meanwhile before that night i still can sing steelheart-she's gone easily, and now its really hard and bad while i sing that song...., so what should i doo??? -_-im really panic
That faint voice at the beginning sounds almost exactly like my mom when she tries to sing something. It's like the pain you experience when your dearly loved dog or cat dies. I'm here because I hope I'm not headed there.
I absolutely love the vocal checks - I have 2 singing students with nodules at the moment and will be going through this with them. Thanks so much for such excellent work!
hi im 15 and a singing student myself and i was just wondering are your students able to sing the same way they did before? have they got the nodules removed and been able to sing the same way they did when they did not have these issues? or have the nodules just disappeared and all is good again? thank you
Valentina Ribecco I know your question is addressed to Chip, but just for some general orienting information: Swellings of short duration (and swelling tests) resolve within a day or two. Nodules of reasonably short duration may take several weeks or months to resolve. Chronic nodules of long duration still need therapy to prove that they are indeed stubborn, and tend to require microsurgery. In each case, provided the person with the nodules is sufficiently motivated to do what it takes, voice is expected to return to normal (with rare exceptions).
The fundamental approach to diagnosis is History, Vocal Capability Battery, and Motivated Examination. What the patient tells you, what the voice tells you, and what the larynx (vocal cord visualization) tells you. The problem is that each component needs to be fully and skillfully applied. When a diagnosis remains unclear after applying this “Bastian” Integrative Model the fault is not the model; it is instead that it has been incompletely applied. For example, the clinicians do not understand the phenomenology of the voice - its capabilities, limitations, and aberrations. Or, they examine the larynx but the resulting images are what I call “far, fuzzy” rather than “close, clear.” What you need is a precise and complete diagnosis. Only then can you devise a plan for recovery. I’d look for another opinion in a nearby city, but maybe ask in advance if they use the integrative model. If this draws a blank, keep looking....Sorry to hear of your trouble, and all the best!
Thank you so much for providing me very informative vocal checking! My voice drastically changed early this year after I joined an amateur singing contest. Never did I hit notes no more .
Thank you for your question. I was perhaps unclear there... This comment about athletic event is in the section about having detected a change for the worse in your swelling tests and reviewing the past 12 hours for an explanation. I was suggesting that a person might say "Oh, I was at the soccer game (and did a lot of cheering for my team). That might then explain why swelling tests had deteriorated as compared to baseline.
Doctor, I have had Covid in December 2023 now we are end of April 2024, since after Covid, I lost my singing voice, my speaking voice is ok but lower than usual. I am waiting for a specialist to look at my vocal cords. I am worried, will I get my voice back? I don’t quite understand cause English is not my first language. I have to sing Happy Birthday twice a day for 20 seconds and O only. That’s it, don’t do any vocalizing like the others suggested. Thank you in advance for answering.
Can over coughing cause swelling? Can tea and voice resting help? Is there a way to learn how to use the voice right and speak without damaging it or struggling to speak? Thanks.
This is more than extraordinary! I like the addendum at the far right corner! The voice science of this video is incredible. The doctor shown in this video seems highly intelligent
The question was "What if the person is just singing above their range?" A couple of ways to answer that: 1. Could be if the functional singing range is at least 2 octaves(usually 2 1/2), and the upper notes can be sung extremely softly. 2. If the upper limit doesn't extend upwards several more notes by just singing more loudly. 3. If the "struggle" to produce the upper few notes at pianissimo is due to the muscle being at its limit, and not the mucosa "refusing" to vibrate. (A video on the difference between muscular and mucosal ceiling of the voice, on the way someday.)
The last few minutes of the video review the strategy of what to do if the swelling checks have deteriorated from your baseline. You rest (in a relative, not necessarily absolute sense) until the swelling checks return to your previously-determined baseline.
I'm not understanding this video. I know my throat is injured and not going to get better. It's been 7 months since I injured it. I have not seen any doctors because I really don't want surgery. When I talk I sound like I'm losing my voice and certain words I am extremely high pitched and sound like a mouse. It just gets worse and worse.
Yes. Acute laryngitis, or even thick mucus could interfere, but not on an ongoing, "stable" basis. When the cold is over, swelling tests should return to normal.
I really have seen it depends so much on tension in the throat, tongue, jaw, or poor breathing etc. But for experienced vocalists this is very interesting
OMG... It so does!!!! LMAO.. I knew there was something about his ways but didn't quite know what.. You have just broken the windows wide opened... hahahahaha AMAZING!!! Tilted head and.. Everything is sex, Jim.. hahahahahaha
I really like this video because it seems to applicable. I know I can really remember to use these simple exercises on a regular every day basis! Great Job, Sir!:) God bless you!
I really appreciate your time and effort to make this vedio, your way of educating people is wonderful and, I myself learn a lot. Now I can improve my singing.
Clear for the moment but I will be implementing these every day twice a day... thank you very much for this FREE and hopefully preventitive remedy,and enhanced mindfullness thank you indeed Dr Bastian
i never had a vocal injury even though im doing vocal fry sometimes in my gigs. it depends on you if you know your voice well. just have enough rest and always hydrated and never abuse your voice a lot.
A very big thanks to you sir♥️ at least I'm relieved watching your video.. I've been worrying for about a week because of my voice...😞😔 I can't sing properly...but thank God I found your video ♥️ God bless you..
tian tang should be done by a professional. If u get the whole scope that actually goes down your throat It can actually "irritate" perhaps affect your folds and cords more. If you want to see if your cords are damaged or irritated you can get a test done where yes they use a camera and angle it downwards but the doc would not move it down your throat.
tian tang let a doctor do it, I got mine checked because of irritation and the process is very awkward and impossible to do yourself. The doctor inserted a camera through my nose (used a spray to lubricate the passage) and through a camera he knew how far to go. You will damage yourself without professional help
Thank you SO much!!!!!! I had a night terror in which I eventually screamed very loudly multiple times. I will follow your instruction to rest my vocal chords and on a side note, my husband will thank you for the days of relaxed silence :-)
Why are there checks only for high-pitch sounds? I have problems with speaking with my normal low - pitch voice and it hurts near my right vocal cord. This is after shouting with a very high volume. Doctors say, I don't have an injury. But my feels have never been same after that damage. And my voice get's tired very easily now and I need to strain myself to even speak nkrmally...
I am wondering something. When I was first starting to sing, I wasn’t able to produce a clear tone in head voice because my voice wasn’t properly trained and was weak. Not because of overuse. It was just my starting point. How would you differentiate that from not being able to do the checks due to what you described? And another thing. How does this change during the pre menstrual cycle and during pregnancy? Thank you!
Hello, when one has those hicks in one's voice that causes a person not to able to sing a note unless it is forced, or the voice skips, what is the treatment for those breaks in the voice that prevents one from singing with a steady flow? Can it be helped? Or is the damage permanent?
Thank you so much for the knowledge. How do you determine if it is a ceiling because of swelling/injury or it is just the limit of your range where it breaks to falsetto?
Can the mucosal ceiling be expanded w long-term training? Would it ever be safe to sing past the ceiling (e.g., falsettoing to E5 with a ceiling at C5)?
I was on a talent show in LA, then made an error to do the usual 3 hour gigs, straight after landing. I was already tired and hoarse. Now a week later, my voice is swollen and when I talk it sounds low and hoarse. I am hoping complete vocal reset will heal me
I happened upon imitating something like a gibbon, a quick pitch slide from low to as high as possible like a sine wave sweep. Very unclothed! & Produced as cleanly as possible. I use it as both a self check and a warmup/loosener. Watching this, its makes sense to check on how the voice is with a consistent action but also help loosen it if the checks reveals bumps. 👍
Thank you very much for your very helpful video. Please help me, I don't know who else to go to. Apparently I had acid reflux. I did what the internist told me but although I don't feel the reflux anymore, my passaggio is still gone and since I'm a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal singer (and an English teacher), those notes are fundamental for my singing. I first visited and otorhinolaryngologist but he told me I was nodule and polyp free, and that all I needed was vocal technique and that I should just learn it with a singing teacher. I've been singing for 20 + years, and never had a problem, plus when I learned my singing teacher always praised my technique, but I obeyed his advice and went back to get her advice. She told me that because I was teaching English 8 hours/day to 25 student groups I had to buy a teacher amplification system, which I did, to no result. Later I went to another singing teacher for a second opinion, and it was he who asked me if I had acid reflux, which I did, and recommended me to go to an internist who had cured him from the very same problem. I went did my diet and took my medicine as instructed. The reflux went away (apparently, because they say it can be "silent") but my singing voice is still in very bad shape. I did your swellness checks and yes, I'm swollen. Please. What can I do? should I visit another otorhinolaryngologist? Should I visit a speech therapist? Or just vocalize (which I haven't being afraid of further damage) as the singing teachers recommended? Please help.
I shold have found you earlier T T now I stop singing for 5 years. But always want to sing again. What doctor said was very right it’s happen to me every sign. But I don’t have knowledge to know that I should rest.
my voice is already gone... sounds like the example you gave, but a bit worse. i am really sick (think i have strep, but cant afford to see a doctor) and have been caughing and hacking up mucus non stop for 4 days. i think i straigned my cords because of that, but i can't just stop coughing and clearing my throat because i still have a lot of mucus, and if i don't hack some up for an extended ammount of time, i choke and almost vomit... i'm scared i'm going to do perminent dammage. what should i do??
Thank you so much doctor..I did both swelling checks and I came to know that I have same problem..please suggest some medicine to treat this..because I am a singer and I want to keep my throat ok.Thanks please help me treat this.
But this might be inaccurate if you require someoone to sing a certain pitch, let's say you ask people to sing very high and soft but i can guarantee you that there will be a ton of people, in which you will find their voice breaking and struggling not at the actuall ceiling, but much lower due to their lacking technique. 95% people are unawere of the technicality of singing, they will begin to strain due to their none existent technique and it may appear as if they were reaching the ceiling but they are just not doing it right.
Analysis Fail. "95% people are unawere of the technicality of singing.." How did you come up with that number? Anyway, the focus of the video is detection and prevention. Not causes, which vary among vocal overdoers. It may or may not be about vocal technique. But that's not even the point he's making.
Great video. I really gotta try those vocal checks. I recently started getting very busy signing - 3 hrs a night for over 2 months now and about 2 weeks ago my voice just wouldn’t work. I had to cancel some gigs (first time ever) and took nearly 5 days off - where I barely even talked. I’m singing again now and so much more conscious of it.
@@Zizotron yes, my post here was the only time I damaged my voice. I took almost a week off from singing and I was ok to resume work after. And so far so good since then. I recommend singing in the right key for you, vocal warm ups, always being able to hear yourself well during performing (monitor,in ears etc) and sufficient sleep & rest
My voice usually feels swollen for a few months at a time after my allergy bouts during winter. I'm a high school teacher and a coloratura soprano but I have stopped singing for a few years now. You can imagine the stress all this used to put in my voice!
Every situation is unique and consider this informational not medical advice. Vocal polyps are usually asensate. That means that the person cannot "feel" the polyp itself when sitting and reading, eating, etc. They can feel the effects of the polyp when producing voice, however. During speaking if large, and during upper voice singing if medium or small. A vocal cord granuloma can occasionally cause a sticking sensation on the side of involvement, however. To see the difference between these two conditions, just search the terms vocal cord granuloma and vocal cord polyp and compare and contrast them on www.laryngopedia.com.
An ENT doctor, and if one is near you, a "T" doctor (laryngologist who works with voice, swallowing, and airway disorders). If choking was violent and "loud" it is possible to bruise the vocal cords, but that usually resolves by itself.
Thank you so much for such amazing advice. I need to ask, in minute 12:45 what do you mean by "athletic event"? Do you mean "vocal athletic event"? as in vocal exercise? Or just any running or general body exercise?
Thanks for your teachings. I am not a singer, but have had hoarseness problems with my voice for more than a year now. I would like to ask you if it is normal to get some pain and bloating kinda feeling in the abdomen when trying to speak or when Ive been speaking for an hour or so....I even get some tired after a while speaking. thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
I have two questions: One, should the baseline mucosal ceiling be seen as your max when you sing? Or is it ok to sing higher if you can comfortably sing that high after warming up? Secondly, i notice I can sing quite a bit higher when doing the happy birthday im stead of the staccati. I am singing really really softly and can go about a third higher. Is there a good explanation? Am I simply forcing it? Thank you for the valuable information!!
Thank you sir, I accidentally felt a pop in my right Vocal cord and when I go up really high into my fallseto and whistle tone I can feel slight pain in that side of the voice. I'm pretty sure I strained it but I'm able to sing through it and over it. Should I stop with the vocal workouts I do and take time to do vocal repair exercises?
Sing high pitches before you had a decent warm up? Do an onset exercise in falsetto to check for vocal nodules? The vocal cords don't fully approximate in falsetto, so how can that be beneficial?
Great video! I have a question. Last week, I was singing everyday for ~3 hours straight and now I have this uncomfortable feeling right above my larynx for the past 3 days.What could this mean? Do I have vocal swelling?
Thanks for your comment and question. People with vocal cord swelling 'never' have an actual sensation of swelling, but instead vocal limitations as illustrated on the video. A sense of swelling caused by overuse, would typically suggest muscular fatigue. Cricopharyngeus spasm (CPS) is an example, though in a different location than you indicate. I hope you find this information helpful. (Please consider Dr. Bastian’s reply to be informational only, and not medical advice; don’t act without your personal physician’s input).
***** Yeah, it was a swelling + I have acid reflux so it made my swelling even worse. All I can say is get some vocal rest. Try not to talk at all for around 3 days.Drink water. Thats all I can suggest 😊
Thank God I bumped into this.. 👌 I sing twice a week, sometimes straight 3-4 days.. and the songs I sing are not the easy ones.. It is of high notes.. songs like She's Gone, songs from Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Air Supply and many others.. I cater to my audiences request.
Thank you SO MUCH. I have been dealing with voice cracks and breaks, had extreme troubles with higher notes, yes, m an aspiring singer but haven't been able to do anything bcz of my voice breaking or cracking. I recently even joined a singing class, my teacher was impressed with everything else but my voice would break above middle C from C# to E above it i gain control again in mixed voice. I thought its just register change break n i need to learn to transition but now i see its not normal. My teacher too said that the cause is NOT lack of practice etc but perhaps my spine issue (i have it..) Later i tried vocal compression exercises and it worked very well for temporary period of time like right after the exercises id see improvement but later it'd fade away. With this test im sure now that i have some sort of issue in my chords. Staccato and the song, in both, in higher notes my voice would break and a note higher than demonstrated in staccato, my voice just wouldnt come out. And throughout the whole check routine, id notice lots of air coming out as i sing it. As if theres a hole passage allowing air to escape from chords in one side while rest of the chords r working n allowing me to make a sound. At least i know the problem now its been years!
So I’m almost positive my voice is at least swollen (fatigue when talking/singing) so should I wait to do the checks until I have given my voice rest or do exercises to strengthen it again? Thank you in advance for answering much appreciated!🙏
hi. can i ask if ur voice is better now. i kinda practiced really hard for the past few week and my voice no sound like i have a cold. did ur voice heal from that ? im really worried that i have damaged my voice permanently
Hi, I lost my singing voice and my normal talking voice has changed to lower (and feels unnatural), I tried the swelling check, and it's definitely not good. I hope I can get my voice back :( Thanks for this video, it made me realize I have a vocal issue.
Oh poor thing at the beginning! I'd cry so much!
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Millies, fuck right off! You might think it's funny but if you earned your living as a singer or actor (or teacher), yes, you really would cry if you seriously damaged your voice.
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@@thewomble1509 What. Are you sure you aren't overreacting? That was obviously not sarcastic some people do speak like that.
Finally I know what's happening with my voice from this video. I told even professional singers that my voice hurts after singing and I feel as if there is a veil on it. At it's worsts I will try to hit a note and another will "bounce". I am surprised that so many people I asked couldn't tell me what that is. Thank god we have the internet! This video is extremely informative.The bad news is that my vocal cords seem to be damaged. The good news is that now I wont push them thinking "I just need more practice".
Hey did they get better
I know when I try to transition into falsetto it goes straight into whistle register it’s annoying
Hey I’m a bit worried, Bc ever since I woke up this morning my voice has been very tingly it doesn’t hurt but it’s been tingly, and idk if there is something wrong with it or it’s natural or if it’s gonna be part of puberty
@@itsjarcia9151 Wdym mean by tingly
@@brightsideimperfection9740 same since i go through puberty, i think its been several months now and im scared huhuhu
I had a complete loss of upper register and I haven't talked for 4 days, now my ceiling is E5. Thank you!
WOW.. That's impressive.
🙏👌👌👌 that’s amazing.
Really happy for you that’s so awesome 😇👏🏽
Nice 👍 How did you do it? I kind of need help since i think I lost a huge octave or something and I don’t know what to do.
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Thanks for your good comment. Swelling checks allow every singer to establish a personal "baseline" when they first become aware of vocal cord swelling checks. This baseline can be determined, no matter what the voice type, singing style, and whether the vocal cords are normal or already damaged. Then, going forward, you can monitor to make sure that baseline is either stable or improving, and not deteriorating. It allows one to know when they have "overdone it" and created even subtle swelling. It would permit one to know that existing mucosal injury is resolving, if the baseline is improving (meaning the "initial mucosal ceiling is rising, semitone by semitone). For persons well-versed in expected range for all of the various voice classifications, it can be used as well to compare with the "group" to which they belong.
Laryngopedia What's the name of the part of the throat that can make a tone, but can swell if you sing too high?But the swelling goes down and its hard for an ent to detect where the problem is because the swelling went away?
what are common causes of injuries? I am young 21 years old, I drank a lot in my first year of college about 12 drinks a week of alcohol basically every week. (most of the time not in one night, over the course of a week like two or three in one night or just one) I did that for a year and a half, and then in my second year cut back a bit and now in my third year I drink only one drink a night and often only 5 to 6 drinks a week. I also smoked cigars for three years (about 10 to 15 cigars a year. I didn't inhale) and lately over the last 4 weeks I have had a sore throat. it has gone down a lot within the last week (i barely feel any pain if not at all) but my larynx sometimes chokes up. I will be talking or singing and if I sing or use my voice in a certain way I get this very unpleasant choked up scratchy pain in my vocal cords and I cough for a bit and it goes away. in my regular talking voice this is much more rare but if i speak in a certain way (normally opening my throat right up) that is when it happens. Can you help me figure out what this is? will it go away? I have seen doctors and they sort of brush it off as just a viral infection but it has lasted a while. not much pain but i get that choking feeling when I use my voice a certain way and I have a decent amount of phlegm. Thanks!
Laryngopedia I've laryngitis and I feel fullness In my throat are my vocal cords swollen
@@sirmarquis7701 the vocal chords.
And if the swelling went away it means it went away and its not a problem anymore
@@blackridgeproductions2738 when you go get it checked do you also mention aboutvthe alchool and smoking? If not then tell them. If yes then you should probably get and chest X-ray and make an allergy test !! If ypu have done those and they come back as negative then i think the reason should probably be the smoking and the alchool (considering you dont have any other diseases whether they are inhereted or cronic diseases)
The alchool and the smoking affect your voice tremendously much . Thats why singers never drink alchool because it totally ruins your voice. As for smoking the particles of the smoke (whether you inhale it or not) get stuck in your respiratory system, more like your larynx (upper throat) and make breathing and singing more difficult because air cannot pass freely in the airways. Also the pleghm is because of smoking . All those cigarette particles, and all the bacteria that they gather builds up the pleghm. And the alchool also decreases the immunity system which means that more bacteria will come inside your body. The pleghm is the way your body fights the bacteria that enters. So the more pleghm the more you have damaged your vocal chords, your airways, and your immunity system.
I dont want to scare you but if you continue smoking and drinking not only will you loose the ability to sing but you will also are gonna be at a high risk for lung cancer!
And especially now at this times when you can also get corona. So please be careful. Take care of yourself and stop smoking
this guy is saving my life
did it work??
Im 2 seconds into this but thanks for making me watch this further - bc the first example is just like what i am going through
@@Proudtobe404notfound yes im fine now
@@Larry_Diamond when the swelling goes down will your voice be how it was previously?
@@drewisashrink6545 yes
This was probably one of the best most detailed and solution-oriented videos I have ever watched! thank you!
I traveled from Canada to Chicago, USA to see Dr. Bastien in 2010. In Canada, our waiting lists are so long, often we don't get a chance to see the doctor before it's too late. So, I crossed the border and saw Dr. Bastien to help me with a swallowing disorder I was experiencing. Dr. Bastien was so good. He gave me a full examination, scheduled a swallowing test at the hospital for me the same day and then met with me and reviewed the results, again all within the same day. I couldn't believe how good his care was compared to what I experience in Canaada. I am so thankful that he sees international patients because timely care is everything when someone is sick and needs medical treatment.
Hi Dr. B. Thanks for doing this. It was brilliant of you to do so. Folks, I’m a voice actor by trade. This man actually IS my vocal Dr. in Chicago. He’s brilliant, gentle, and saved my voice.
A week before an entrance exam to music school, this happened to me, unfortunately, due to some misuse of my voice (ironically not singing, but too much talking at a dinner party). I couldn't get an appointment with an ENT, but the next day I had a lesson with my voice teacher. I told her I wasn't feeling well.She thought I was just not breathing correctly, or that I was tense, and she kept urging me to "sing out", until I said enough since I started feeling fatigue shortly into the lesson. She just couldn't take me seriously because I was able to phonate anyway, but it was horrible, just like in this video. I'm going to send her this video just to show her that this is a serious issue and not an issue of technique. Vocal professionals need people like you to educate them like this. Thank you!
know your voice a lot
dont abuse it
This is what my teacher told me to. It’s sad. She thinks I’m just paranoid and sabotaging my voice, when really all I want is to learn to sing in a healthy way.
I wished you all the best.🤍
That’s crazy, I would think that’s these vocal coaches would learn how to do this or do sow actually studying and research on Bacall cords and talk to doctors. That’s what I would do if I were a vocal coach cause I ain’t tranna mess up nobodies voice.
İt is just ridiculous how many teachers will say that to you. I had the exact same experience, my teacher telling me that I was just "holding back".
You are helping give my life back! I do not know what I would do without singing. Overuse has me swollen just enough and I could not figure out what was wrong. These checks help me monitor things! This is a great video!
So glad to hear you are getting back to vocal health and the joy of singing!
Introduction 00:12
The Voice's "Clothing" 00:52
Mucosa 01:35
Preventing Injury 02:30
Designing the Checks 04:39
The Checks 05:38
Long-term Strategy 09:35
Conclusion 14:57
I have undamage voice
Thank u
this helped my anxiety so much. my voice is fine for now
Yeah same for me😰😰😰😰
You’re not alone
uff same. hopefully it stays the same.
Fantastic video help! Doctors and even other professional singers couldn't help me beyond saying "rest the voice" and "take these steroids for a few days." Yes, these were part of what I learned from this video but BEYOND THAT, I got all that I needed to reassure myself (I was freaking out lately) that I could heal, and learned about tools to monitor and care for my voice going forward. I am a trial lawyer and a singer as well, so I am in the 'overdoer' category by trade and choice. THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN, doctor! I'm sharing this video with many others who I am sure will be grateful that someone out there actually cared enough to post online HELP without a doctor's visit.:)
Very kind of you. And all the best for your voice!
I cried and cried in college going through my voice degree constantly being told I was cracking because I was afraid of the high notes yet still forced into being a soprano. It never failed to be in the same spots (and never mind that I can sing way above the ugly crack). I’ve learned to muscle my way around them, but I know that it just takes one tiny slip up on a bad day to make me sound like an elk. I’ve never heard anyone else make this wookiee sound so it’s always made me feel alone and given me terrible performance anxiety.
Although I wish I would’ve seen it when you first posted it, I feel like a weight has been lifted. I’m looking forward to taking vocal rest seriously in hopes of having a fluid range one day. This was inspirational, extremely informative, and gave me hope again. Thank you!!
Give this man a raise!
Such a nice comment! Thank you so much.
Thank you! I've been worrying about vocal injury for a few days so I'm glad I found this! Fortunately my vocal chords are fine :)
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whay did you do?can you share?
Dr. Bastian, thank you thank you thank you SO MUCH for this video. I'm a singer/vocal student and I've been frustrated in my inability to hit my usual soprano notes, to the point where I have just been singing mezzo soprano. Whereas I used to be able to hit a C6 without too much difficulty when singing, suddenly I was struggling to get up above G5. Randomly this weekend, like a secret voice in my head, something made me wonder if my cords were damaged, and searching led me to this video.
Lo and behold! I tested myself and in that barely audible squeak of happy birthday, I couldn't get up above my CHEST VOICE without having breathy/whistly onsets. I thing I got stuck at a really low note like G4 before there was some resistance as you mentioned. I swore off singing (and most talking) for a few days, and I just did the test today. My throat felt kind of different this morning, and now my voice went up to about F5 with the test. I warmed up and I have my C6 back!
You've saved my voice today, and you've potentially saved my voice for the long term as I'm only two years into my singing career. Thank you so much for literally saving peoples' livelihoods. Vocal fold swelling checks do indeed keep the doctor away!😅
Such a great story. Thank you for sharing it!
Thank you! I had laryngitis 4 months ago and my voice has never fully recovered. This explanation has been great.
Evie K how is it now?
Did it get better?
How is it now?
How is it now?
His is it now?
Thank you for your question. The answer is "no." To expand: The tasks are not for vocal grooming nor for rehabilitation. Their purpose is solely to detect swelling. Since they are by design produced with a very tiny, quiet voice, and since it takes well under a minute to accomplish them, vocal cord swelling checks have no potential whatsoever to cause injury.
Hello -_- i want to ask you a question, so 4 days ago i had party with my friends and on that night, im consume alcohol(vodka) and tobacco, then in the morning after partying hard i still can speak or talk with ordinary voice but i cant sing while the song using high pitch my throat is hurt, meanwhile before that night i still can sing steelheart-she's gone easily, and now its really hard and bad while i sing that song...., so what should i doo??? -_-im really panic
oh mygod this is 7 months later but how is your voice
The most scientific vocal check on UA-cam.
That faint voice at the beginning sounds almost exactly like my mom when she tries to sing something. It's like the pain you experience when your dearly loved dog or cat dies. I'm here because I hope I'm not headed there.
I absolutely love the vocal checks - I have 2 singing students with nodules at the moment and will be going through this with them. Thanks so much for such excellent work!
Wonderful! Thanks for the kind words. Hope that your students find the checks to be helpful!
hi im 15 and a singing student myself and i was just wondering are your students able to sing the same way they did before? have they got the nodules removed and been able to sing the same way they did when they did not have these issues? or have the nodules just disappeared and all is good again? thank you
Valentina Ribecco I know your question is addressed to Chip, but just for some general orienting information:
Swellings of short duration (and swelling tests) resolve within a day or two. Nodules of reasonably short duration may take several weeks or months to resolve. Chronic nodules of long duration still need therapy to prove that they are indeed stubborn, and tend to require microsurgery. In each case, provided the person with the nodules is sufficiently motivated to do what it takes, voice is expected to return to normal (with rare exceptions).
The fundamental approach to diagnosis is History, Vocal Capability Battery, and Motivated Examination. What the patient tells you, what the voice tells you, and what the larynx (vocal cord visualization) tells you. The problem is that each component needs to be fully and skillfully applied. When a diagnosis remains unclear after applying this “Bastian” Integrative Model the fault is not the model; it is instead that it has been incompletely applied. For example, the clinicians do not understand the phenomenology of the voice - its capabilities, limitations, and aberrations. Or, they examine the larynx but the resulting images are what I call “far, fuzzy” rather than “close, clear.” What you need is a precise and complete diagnosis. Only then can you devise a plan for recovery. I’d look for another opinion in a nearby city, but maybe ask in advance if they use the integrative model. If this draws a blank, keep looking....Sorry to hear of your trouble, and all the best!
Thank you so much for providing me very informative vocal checking!
My voice drastically changed early this year after I joined an amateur singing contest. Never did I hit notes no more .
Thank you for your question. I was perhaps unclear there... This comment about athletic event is in the section about having detected a change for the worse in your swelling tests and reviewing the past 12 hours for an explanation. I was suggesting that a person might say "Oh, I was at the soccer game (and did a lot of cheering for my team). That might then explain why swelling tests had deteriorated as compared to baseline.
Doctor, I have had Covid in December 2023 now we are end of April 2024, since after Covid, I lost my singing voice, my speaking voice is ok but lower than usual. I am waiting for a specialist to look at my vocal cords. I am worried, will I get my voice back? I don’t quite understand cause English is not my first language. I have to sing Happy Birthday twice a day for 20 seconds and O only. That’s it, don’t do any vocalizing like the others suggested. Thank you in advance for answering.
Useful advice, particularly for the panicked singer suffering allergies hoping their voice still loves them.
It does.
very helpful. in college for vocal performance, my voice teacher recommended I look into this for my regular health
Thank you for your comment!
I'm a teacher and a singer. This is so helpful. Thank you!
This isn't for training or performance. It is for detection. It works for the injured voice, to monitor progress in healing (or not)...
Can over coughing cause swelling?
Can tea and voice resting help?
Is there a way to learn how to use the voice right and speak without damaging it or struggling to speak?
Thanks.
Thank you so much, and glad to hear about your friend.
Doctor please help iam 21 year old boy my voice is not deep I feel bad is like lady what can I do please I felt bad people make funny my voice
This is more than extraordinary! I like the addendum at the far right corner! The voice science of this video is incredible. The doctor shown in this video seems highly intelligent
i thought i couldnt go higher bc i haad swelling but then i went into whistle register im so happy!!
The question was "What if the person is just singing above their range?" A couple of ways to answer that: 1. Could be if the functional singing range is at least 2 octaves(usually 2 1/2), and the upper notes can be sung extremely softly. 2. If the upper limit doesn't extend upwards several more notes by just singing more loudly. 3. If the "struggle" to produce the upper few notes at pianissimo is due to the muscle being at its limit, and not the mucosa "refusing" to vibrate. (A video on the difference between muscular and mucosal ceiling of the voice, on the way someday.)
This is an excellent video! Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
How long does it usually takes to heal a chronic vocal damage ?
Would this check aggravate the nodules?
The last few minutes of the video review the strategy of what to do if the swelling checks have deteriorated from your baseline. You rest (in a relative, not necessarily absolute sense) until the swelling checks return to your previously-determined baseline.
I'm not understanding this video. I know my throat is injured and not going to get better. It's been 7 months since I injured it. I have not seen any doctors because I really don't want surgery. When I talk I sound like I'm losing my voice and certain words I am extremely high pitched and sound like a mouse. It just gets worse and worse.
Yes. Acute laryngitis, or even thick mucus could interfere, but not on an ongoing, "stable" basis. When the cold is over, swelling tests should return to normal.
I have vocal cord polyp.what causes it and treatment for it
I really have seen it depends so much on tension in the throat, tongue, jaw, or poor breathing etc. But for experienced vocalists this is very interesting
He reminds me of Robert California
Abby Orr 😂😂
Who ?
"Everything... Is.. Sex.. Jim."
OMG... It so does!!!! LMAO.. I knew there was something about his ways but didn't quite know what.. You have just broken the windows wide opened... hahahahaha
AMAZING!!!
Tilted head and.. Everything is sex, Jim.. hahahahahaha
Robert would talk this Doctor out of his job and take his UA-cam channel
I really like this video because it seems to applicable. I know I can really remember to use these simple exercises on a regular every day basis! Great Job, Sir!:) God bless you!
Very interesting video. Thank you
The shade of this video having an Xtina ad before the actual video.
I really appreciate your time and effort to make this vedio, your way of educating people is wonderful and, I myself learn a lot. Now I can improve my singing.
You should do ASMR. This video itself is relaxing
Cici Sims I luv asmr. it really works.
Haha true
Clear for the moment but I will be implementing these every day twice a day... thank you very much for this FREE and hopefully preventitive remedy,and enhanced mindfullness thank you indeed Dr Bastian
Very useul for checking n protecting our mucosa n vocal cords.Thank you so much.
i never had a vocal injury even though im doing vocal fry sometimes in my gigs. it depends on you if you know your voice well. just have enough rest and always hydrated and never abuse your voice a lot.
For me I was fine for years but now suddenly i cant sing like I used to and get burnt out on one song thats challenging. Things can escalate quickly
Thank you sooo much! You are super clear and the information you are sharing here is very precious.
What to do when you do have a swelling? Could you make a video on that? And how long does swelling usually last?
You basically stop talking as much or at all until you are healed. If that doesn’t work then you need a voice therapist.
A very big thanks to you sir♥️ at least I'm relieved watching your video.. I've been worrying for about a week because of my voice...😞😔 I can't sing properly...but thank God I found your video ♥️ God bless you..
Thank you for this educational video. I better understand how to now check my voice after injury n how to preserve it by checking regularly.
the best video I can find on youtube so far, thank you very much
Hello, just a quick question, is there any consumer endoscope a singer can buy for him/her self, any recommendations?
tian tang should be done by a professional. If u get the whole scope that actually goes down your throat It can actually "irritate" perhaps affect your folds and cords more. If you want to see if your cords are damaged or irritated you can get a test done where yes they use a camera and angle it downwards but the doc would not move it down your throat.
tian tang let a doctor do it, I got mine checked because of irritation and the process is very awkward and impossible to do yourself. The doctor inserted a camera through my nose (used a spray to lubricate the passage) and through a camera he knew how far to go. You will damage yourself without professional help
Go to a doctor, don't do it yourself.
8:24 My singing is exactly like this if I don't force it by singing louder.
Thank you so much for this! I have been searching a long time for this information
That's great. Thank you so much
Thank you SO much!!!!!! I had a night terror in which I eventually screamed very loudly multiple times. I will follow your instruction to rest my vocal chords and on a side note, my husband will thank you for the days of relaxed silence :-)
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Why are there checks only for high-pitch sounds? I have problems with speaking with my normal low - pitch voice and it hurts near my right vocal cord. This is after shouting with a very high volume. Doctors say, I don't have an injury. But my feels have never been same after that damage. And my voice get's tired very easily now and I need to strain myself to even speak nkrmally...
That's the exact problem I'm having. Apparently we just have to live with it.
thanks a lot sir ive detected all my problems on my voice im a performer i sing a lot of high notes but now i have so many lapses and offsets
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I am wondering something. When I was first starting to sing, I wasn’t able to produce a clear tone in head voice because my voice wasn’t properly trained and was weak.
Not because of overuse. It was just my starting point.
How would you differentiate that from not being able to do the checks due to what you described?
And another thing. How does this change during the pre menstrual cycle and during pregnancy?
Thank you!
Hello, when one has those hicks in one's voice that causes a person not to able to sing a note unless it is forced, or the voice skips, what is the treatment for those breaks in the voice that prevents one from singing with a steady flow? Can it be helped? Or is the damage permanent?
This video is a lifesaver, thank you so much
Thank you so much for the knowledge.
How do you determine if it is a ceiling because of swelling/injury or it is just the limit of your range where it breaks to falsetto?
Can the mucosal ceiling be expanded w long-term training? Would it ever be safe to sing past the ceiling (e.g., falsettoing to E5 with a ceiling at C5)?
I was on a talent show in LA, then made an error to do the usual 3 hour gigs, straight after landing. I was already tired and hoarse. Now a week later, my voice is swollen and when I talk it sounds low and hoarse. I am hoping complete vocal reset will heal me
Are there any more remedies?
I happened upon imitating something like a gibbon, a quick pitch slide from low to as high as possible like a sine wave sweep. Very unclothed! & Produced as cleanly as possible.
I use it as both a self check and a warmup/loosener.
Watching this, its makes sense to check on how the voice is with a consistent action but also help loosen it if the checks reveals bumps. 👍
Thank you very much for your very helpful video. Please help me, I don't know who else to go to. Apparently I had acid reflux. I did what the internist told me but although I don't feel the reflux anymore, my passaggio is still gone and since I'm a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal singer (and an English teacher), those notes are fundamental for my singing. I first visited and otorhinolaryngologist but he told me I was nodule and polyp free, and that all I needed was vocal technique and that I should just learn it with a singing teacher. I've been singing for 20 + years, and never had a problem, plus when I learned my singing teacher always praised my technique, but I obeyed his advice and went back to get her advice. She told me that because I was teaching English 8 hours/day to 25 student groups I had to buy a teacher amplification system, which I did, to no result. Later I went to another singing teacher for a second opinion, and it was he who asked me if I had acid reflux, which I did, and recommended me to go to an internist who had cured him from the very same problem. I went did my diet and took my medicine as instructed. The reflux went away (apparently, because they say it can be "silent") but my singing voice is still in very bad shape. I did your swellness checks and yes, I'm swollen. Please. What can I do? should I visit another otorhinolaryngologist? Should I visit a speech therapist? Or just vocalize (which I haven't being afraid of further damage) as the singing teachers recommended? Please help.
Hello Doctor
I have a lesion in one of my vocal cords. Is there a treatment to repair the vocal cords?
Morning: Do - C#6/6 Yo -D6
Afternoon: Do - Yo -
does physical exhaustion affect the vocal folds? just wondering because you said athletic event
I shold have found you earlier T T now I stop singing for 5 years. But always want to sing again. What doctor said was very right it’s happen to me every sign. But I don’t have knowledge to know that I should rest.
my voice is already gone... sounds like the example you gave, but a bit worse. i am really sick (think i have strep, but cant afford to see a doctor) and have been caughing and hacking up mucus non stop for 4 days. i think i straigned my cords because of that, but i can't just stop coughing and clearing my throat because i still have a lot of mucus, and if i don't hack some up for an extended ammount of time, i choke and almost vomit... i'm scared i'm going to do perminent dammage. what should i do??
Doodle Bags Same.
how is your throat?
I'm (near) in the same situation and sometime peoples I talk to don't even understand what I'm saying. Very scary.
Thank you so much doctor..I did both swelling checks and I came to know that I have same problem..please suggest some medicine to treat this..because I am a singer and I want to keep my throat ok.Thanks please help me treat this.
But this might be inaccurate if you require someoone to sing a certain pitch, let's say you ask people to sing very high and soft but i can guarantee you that there will be a ton of people, in which you will find their voice breaking and struggling not at the actuall ceiling, but much lower due to their lacking technique. 95% people are unawere of the technicality of singing, they will begin to strain due to their none existent technique and it may appear as if they were reaching the ceiling but they are just not doing it right.
Marek Valen
how to develop technique?
Analysis Fail. "95% people are unawere of the technicality of singing.." How did you come up with that number? Anyway, the focus of the video is detection and prevention. Not causes, which vary among vocal overdoers. It may or may not be about vocal technique. But that's not even the point he's making.
Well that's why they're made to do it in falsetto.
@@Corgiॐ well if u wanna be a singer and develop technique there are a lot of factors
Damn I just found this channel and it’s great! I love how no-nonsense he is
Thank you very much for posting it.
You're welcome
Can radio frequency lazers used on the neck cause vocal cord damage and is it reversible
Great video. I really gotta try those vocal checks. I recently started getting very busy signing - 3 hrs a night for over 2 months now and about 2 weeks ago my voice just wouldn’t work. I had to cancel some gigs (first time ever) and took nearly 5 days off - where I barely even talked. I’m singing again now and so much more conscious of it.
Hey bro, quick question
Did u ever damage your voice
And if so did it heal?
@@Zizotron yes, my post here was the only time I damaged my voice. I took almost a week off from singing and I was ok to resume work after. And so far so good since then. I recommend singing in the right key for you, vocal warm ups, always being able to hear yourself well during performing (monitor,in ears etc) and sufficient sleep & rest
I tried to speak in vocal fry alot also making it deep and now my voice is mess up please I need help doctor
My voice usually feels swollen for a few months at a time after my allergy bouts during winter. I'm a high school teacher and a coloratura soprano but I have stopped singing for a few years now. You can imagine the stress all this used to put in my voice!
Hey! Quick question
Does it get better overtime?
Every situation is unique and consider this informational not medical advice. Vocal polyps are usually asensate. That means that the person cannot "feel" the polyp itself when sitting and reading, eating, etc. They can feel the effects of the polyp when producing voice, however. During speaking if large, and during upper voice singing if medium or small. A vocal cord granuloma can occasionally cause a sticking sensation on the side of involvement, however. To see the difference between these two conditions, just search the terms vocal cord granuloma and vocal cord polyp and compare and contrast them on www.laryngopedia.com.
Which specialist do you go to for this? Can it be from choking?
An ENT doctor, and if one is near you, a "T" doctor (laryngologist who works with voice, swallowing, and airway disorders). If choking was violent and "loud" it is possible to bruise the vocal cords, but that usually resolves by itself.
What exactly do I google to find such throat sculptures?
Thank you so much for such amazing advice. I need to ask, in minute 12:45 what do you mean by "athletic event"? Do you mean "vocal athletic event"? as in vocal exercise? Or just any running or general body exercise?
Thanks for your teachings. I am not a singer, but have had hoarseness problems with my voice for more than a year now. I would like to ask you if it is normal to get some pain and bloating kinda feeling in the abdomen when trying to speak or when Ive been speaking for an hour or so....I even get some tired after a while speaking. thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
2 vocal chords swelling checks a day keep the doctor away
😂
I see what u did there 😂😂
But right Now
I see you everywhere are you like the theatre version of Justin Y?
@@lilianamorales490 lmfaao. Idk who Justin Y is but im a fan of a lot of things so yeah 😂
In what other videos have you seen me?
Can I do the test while having throat infection
I have two questions:
One, should the baseline mucosal ceiling be seen as your max when you sing? Or is it ok to sing higher if you can comfortably sing that high after warming up?
Secondly, i notice I can sing quite a bit higher when doing the happy birthday im stead of the staccati. I am singing really really softly and can go about a third higher. Is there a good explanation? Am I simply forcing it?
Thank you for the valuable information!!
Thank you sir, I accidentally felt a pop in my right Vocal cord and when I go up really high into my fallseto and whistle tone I can feel slight pain in that side of the voice. I'm pretty sure I strained it but I'm able to sing through it and over it. Should I stop with the vocal workouts I do and take time to do vocal repair exercises?
Sing high pitches before you had a decent warm up? Do an onset exercise in falsetto to check for vocal nodules? The vocal cords don't fully approximate in falsetto, so how can that be beneficial?
Great video! I have a question. Last week, I was singing everyday for ~3 hours straight and now I have this uncomfortable feeling right above my larynx for the past 3 days.What could this mean? Do I have vocal swelling?
Thanks for your comment and question. People with vocal cord swelling 'never' have an actual sensation of swelling, but instead vocal limitations as illustrated on the video. A sense of swelling caused by overuse, would typically suggest muscular fatigue. Cricopharyngeus spasm (CPS) is an example, though in a different
location than you indicate. I hope you find this information helpful. (Please consider Dr. Bastian’s reply to be informational only, and not medical advice; don’t act without your personal physician’s input).
sharus i've the same problem, did you resolve yours?
***** Yeah, it was a swelling + I have acid reflux so it made my swelling even worse. All I can say is get some vocal rest. Try not to talk at all for around 3 days.Drink water. Thats all I can suggest 😊
thank you really much, i'm 99% sure i've acid reflux too, not the best for a singer :(
No problem 😊
Thank God I bumped into this.. 👌
I sing twice a week, sometimes straight 3-4 days.. and the songs I sing are not the easy ones.. It is of high notes.. songs like She's Gone, songs from Aerosmith, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Air Supply and many others.. I cater to my audiences request.
Thank you SO MUCH. I have been dealing with voice cracks and breaks, had extreme troubles with higher notes, yes, m an aspiring singer but haven't been able to do anything bcz of my voice breaking or cracking. I recently even joined a singing class, my teacher was impressed with everything else but my voice would break above middle C from C# to E above it i gain control again in mixed voice. I thought its just register change break n i need to learn to transition but now i see its not normal. My teacher too said that the cause is NOT lack of practice etc but perhaps my spine issue (i have it..) Later i tried vocal compression exercises and it worked very well for temporary period of time like right after the exercises id see improvement but later it'd fade away. With this test im sure now that i have some sort of issue in my chords. Staccato and the song, in both, in higher notes my voice would break and a note higher than demonstrated in staccato, my voice just wouldnt come out. And throughout the whole check routine, id notice lots of air coming out as i sing it. As if theres a hole passage allowing air to escape from chords in one side while rest of the chords r working n allowing me to make a sound. At least i know the problem now its been years!
I like singing but I no longer can sing an octave. I can't make any sound at ti.
thanks Doc for great video that help me understand and care for my voice.
I always come back, I love this!
So I’m almost positive my voice is at least swollen (fatigue when talking/singing) so should I wait to do the checks until I have given my voice rest or do exercises to strengthen it again? Thank you in advance for answering much appreciated!🙏
hi. can i ask if ur voice is better now. i kinda practiced really hard for the past few week and my voice no sound like i have a cold. did ur voice heal from that ? im really worried that i have damaged my voice permanently
Thank you so much, it was very informative.
Hi, I lost my singing voice and my normal talking voice has changed to lower (and feels unnatural), I tried the swelling check, and it's definitely not good. I hope I can get my voice back :( Thanks for this video, it made me realize I have a vocal issue.
Sorry to hear this, but follow the strategy described at the end...
@@Laryngopedia I will, thank you