Safety is extremely important and the top priority is to work safely to avoid "accidents" and injuries. However, some safety organisations take this too far, like what you mentioned in making the machine unusable. Any time I use a machine or a tool, I make myself aware of the consequences of not doing so with care. I use many tools and types of equipment that could cause me serious injury, so I always take care when using them.
In school they made everything seem deadly, they took away tools like our ironworker and our only bench grinder for dumb reasons. After working for 11 months as a millwright apprentice I quickly learned that as long as you are shown how to properly operate something, and are paying attention, that is real safety. dead man's switches only exist because some people want to hurt themselves, at least on something like a press brake. it shouldn't be on one of those as you said, but something like a robot arm with a mind of it's own I sure would want a deadman switch. I think it all ties back to personal responsibility, and that at some point in time personal responsibility was ignored, and everyone was an assumed ape, and then safety took a whole other route. I build automation lines at work and we have to put guarding on everything or the ministry will stop us. safety interlocks and guarding belong on automated machinery, not on manual machinery.
I totally agree. Automation is far more dangerous than manually operated equipment. You have no idea when automation will move unless you can physically watch the program code. Safety was once taught in our schools, but not anymore. Sadly, I believe this fact has been slowly killing craftsmanship.
I started out my metal working as a tangent arc profile grinder on milling cutters for the Brubaker Tool Co. later on I worked on punch presses and press brakes and welding, then onto milling machines and surface grinding, the last job was working with large machines one being 108 inch Bullard vertical turret lathe...loaded work on it with a 25 ton crane and it would groan when I'd pick up somethings...learning all that you can, makes you a well rounded manual machinist, in my opinion, and those press brakes are nice to have..always wishing I had the space to have one... good video's ! I like your channel !!
I worked a few years in a sheetmetal fab shop. It was mostly HVAC but we did build a fair amount of structural steel. For the commercial roofing division we made miles of coping, trim,facia,gutter and my favorite roof curbs for new roof mounted heat and air machinery. A lot of this stuff was formed on an autobrake or folder as some call them. Once you had all the bends programed you could run a lot of metal through it.AL B.
That's an awesome Press Brake Josh. I like your suggestion, "don't put your finger where you wouldn't put your pecker"! Great advice mate. Cheers, Aaron.
I agree, using a lathe or milling a part has their nice part, but the sheet has something very special and that's the flexibility you have for design and that it looks really straightforward, but it is completely the opposite... unfortunately the machinery needed for working with sheet is more expensive in some cases. By the way, your press is really nice, hope you could share with us some of your know how for the punch press!
Leave that thing in my shop and I would use the gears / fly wheel for an art project then it would be a hydro-mechinacal conversion with limit switch's. One of these would convert to a rocker type easy peasy
josh, not that it is any of my business, it is more curiosity. how big is your shop and how much help do you have? my story is that i worked in a small machine shop in high school in 1970s. it paid for my college education and my first pickup truck 1976 and in 1978 i graduated college and took a job as a mainframe programmer analyst at Pratt & Whitney Aircraft.(jet engine manufacturer) i guess when you get machine operator experience you can never get rid of that. if you had a good experience it sticks with you.even if you move on. i guess do what you love, or love what you do. i can tell you love what you do. keep on doing what you love and when you lose that love find something that love. hopefully it is better. God bless you on your life's journey. may your spirits remain high and your troubles be few. may your good common sense prevail. cheers may 2022 be better than 2021. and keep up the good work.
Not very big. About 3000 sqft of shop space. Thee is alot crammed in here. I do enjoy what I do. It has days that are infuriating but they aren't all the time. Thanks for watching
It does look like fun. Next time you have a press brake job, I think it would be interesting if you could set up a camera looking down and time lapse the set-up. No need to do a fancy voice over even. Whatever you think would look good and not interfere much in the process of making money, but give us a hint of the set-up complexity. For instance, on this job, do you take measurements of the stop locations before you break it down so you can easily recreate the next time this job comes up? Do you need to do several test pieces to make sure you’re within tolerance? Love the channel…… 👍😎👍
I guess you wouldn't be allowed to have an employee operate that press? I'm a big fan of presses & presswork but in the U.K. there are actual laws related to the use of power presses (which I think would include mechanical press brakes) , not just general factory Health & Safety regulations , which require regular inspections of bearings & clutches/trip mechanisms as well as guarding, which in turn requires removing the flywheel every couple of years. Even on my little 6 ton power press, the cost of keeping it legal is more than the work I use it for is worth! So it sits with a red "Do Not Use" sign on it...
That is ridiculous. These machines are safe if you use common sense. Yes, accidents happen, but in the 8 years in the first shop I worked with 5 guys running punch presses and press brakes, we only had 1 incident. And we later found out about his drug problem. That same accident was a simple pinch of his finger tip, not even anything serious.
I don't have one. I've asked several people who have worked on these and nobody can give me a consistent answer. As it is, it's been running for 7 years with no issue. I could try reversing it and see is there is any difference. Thanks for watching.
@@TopperMachineLLC Hello Josh, It is running in reverse. You want the pitmans to push the top of the ram towards the housing guides when it hits the part coming down. That way, the force is against the guides and slides. When it is in reverse, the pitmans are trying to push the top of the ram away from the guides, putting a lot of force on the guide clamps.
Safety is extremely important and the top priority is to work safely to avoid "accidents" and injuries. However, some safety organisations take this too far, like what you mentioned in making the machine unusable. Any time I use a machine or a tool, I make myself aware of the consequences of not doing so with care. I use many tools and types of equipment that could cause me serious injury, so I always take care when using them.
That is a very cool tool and it looks fun to operate. We do keep a look out to see if we can find something smaller for our workshop
If not a press brake, look for a box and pan brake or a finger break. Those would be probably better suited to what you are doing.
In school they made everything seem deadly, they took away tools like our ironworker and our only bench grinder for dumb reasons.
After working for 11 months as a millwright apprentice I quickly learned that as long as you are shown how to properly operate something, and are paying attention, that is real safety.
dead man's switches only exist because some people want to hurt themselves, at least on something like a press brake. it shouldn't be on one of those as you said, but something like a robot arm with a mind of it's own I sure would want a deadman switch.
I think it all ties back to personal responsibility, and that at some point in time personal responsibility was ignored, and everyone was an assumed ape, and then safety took a whole other route.
I build automation lines at work and we have to put guarding on everything or the ministry will stop us.
safety interlocks and guarding belong on automated machinery, not on manual machinery.
I totally agree. Automation is far more dangerous than manually operated equipment. You have no idea when automation will move unless you can physically watch the program code. Safety was once taught in our schools, but not anymore. Sadly, I believe this fact has been slowly killing craftsmanship.
I started out my metal working as a tangent arc profile grinder on milling cutters for the Brubaker Tool Co. later on I worked on punch presses and press brakes and welding, then onto milling machines and surface grinding, the last job was working with large machines one being 108 inch Bullard vertical turret lathe...loaded work on it with a 25 ton crane and it would groan when I'd pick up somethings...learning all that you can, makes you a well rounded manual machinist, in my opinion, and those press brakes are nice to have..always wishing I had the space to have one... good video's ! I like your channel !!
I too love press brakes. So much can be fabricated with them. Shears also.
We had it so wrong for many years, we should have been getting bent into shape vs getting bent out of shape
I worked a few years in a sheetmetal fab shop. It was mostly HVAC but we did build a fair amount of structural steel. For the commercial roofing division we made miles of coping, trim,facia,gutter and my favorite roof curbs for new roof mounted heat and air machinery. A lot of this stuff was formed on an autobrake or folder as some call them. Once you had all the bends programed you could run a lot of metal through it.AL B.
Nice job Josh. Next time I come out to Minnesota, I want to stop in and check out your operation
Use these at a summer job during hiigh school, lot bigger hydraulic but same thing, it was kinda fun
That's an awesome Press Brake Josh. I like your suggestion, "don't put your finger where you wouldn't put your pecker"! Great advice mate. Cheers, Aaron.
I agree, using a lathe or milling a part has their nice part, but the sheet has something very special and that's the flexibility you have for design and that it looks really straightforward, but it is completely the opposite... unfortunately the machinery needed for working with sheet is more expensive in some cases. By the way, your press is really nice, hope you could share with us some of your know how for the punch press!
Leave that thing in my shop and I would use the gears / fly wheel for an art project then it would be a hydro-mechinacal conversion with limit switch's. One of these would convert to a rocker type easy peasy
josh, not that it is any of my business, it is more curiosity. how big is your shop and how much help do you have?
my story is that i worked in a small machine shop in high school in 1970s. it paid for my college education and my first pickup truck 1976 and in 1978 i graduated college and took a job as a mainframe programmer analyst at Pratt & Whitney Aircraft.(jet engine manufacturer)
i guess when you get machine operator experience you can never get rid of that. if you had a good experience it sticks with you.even if you move on. i guess do what you love, or love what you do.
i can tell you love what you do. keep on doing what you love and when you lose that love find something that love. hopefully it is better. God bless you on your life's journey. may your spirits remain high and your troubles be few. may your good common sense prevail. cheers may 2022 be better than 2021. and keep up the good work.
Not very big. About 3000 sqft of shop space. Thee is alot crammed in here. I do enjoy what I do. It has days that are infuriating but they aren't all the time. Thanks for watching
good machine
Useful machine.
Cool shots, Josh.
Do have a maintenance/parts manual for that machine? We have one just like it and we need to do some work on it. Great video!
I don't have one, but they are super simple.
"OSHA garbage" LOL!!
It does look like fun. Next time you have a press brake job, I think it would be interesting if you could set up a camera looking down and time lapse the set-up. No need to do a fancy voice over even. Whatever you think would look good and not interfere much in the process of making money, but give us a hint of the set-up complexity. For instance, on this job, do you take measurements of the stop locations before you break it down so you can easily recreate the next time this job comes up? Do you need to do several test pieces to make sure you’re within tolerance? Love the channel…… 👍😎👍
Will do. Setup is super easy and on these parts is non critical +/-.005. thanks for watching
Like your videos but what are you making tell us .Thanks
Well, I guess this one isn't all that proprietary. It's parts for custom coffee tables. I form them for the weld shop that supplies the MFG.
Nice job I can't believe they're not sourcing them from China or Mexico good deal
I guess you wouldn't be allowed to have an employee operate that press? I'm a big fan of presses & presswork but in the U.K. there are actual laws related to the use of power presses (which I think would include mechanical press brakes) , not just general factory Health & Safety regulations , which require regular inspections of bearings & clutches/trip mechanisms as well as guarding, which in turn requires removing the flywheel every couple of years. Even on my little 6 ton power press, the cost of keeping it legal is more than the work I use it for is worth! So it sits with a red "Do Not Use" sign on it...
That is ridiculous. These machines are safe if you use common sense. Yes, accidents happen, but in the 8 years in the first shop I worked with 5 guys running punch presses and press brakes, we only had 1 incident. And we later found out about his drug problem. That same accident was a simple pinch of his finger tip, not even anything serious.
@@TopperMachineLLC I totally agree with you about common sense & safety!
if you have a manual for the press check the flywheel rotation i think it is running the wrong way
I don't have one. I've asked several people who have worked on these and nobody can give me a consistent answer. As it is, it's been running for 7 years with no issue. I could try reversing it and see is there is any difference. Thanks for watching.
@@TopperMachineLLC Hello Josh, It is running in reverse. You want the pitmans to push the top of the ram towards the housing guides when it hits the part coming down. That way, the force is against the guides and slides. When it is in reverse, the pitmans are trying to push the top of the ram away from the guides, putting a lot of force on the guide clamps.