Indigenous woman here and I can tell you the number 1 reason that so many people on the rez are poor is because of corruption within the native governments on the reservations Drive around and see the disparity between those in native government ( big houses, fancy vehicles) and then see all the others
Yeah, I've noticed that on the reservation near where I grew up. Incredibly successful casino, people evicted at convenience, a highly successful cigarette factory. But also poverty and addiction among the citizens is running rampant. Chiefs and other officials are millionaires, in case you couldn't guess. I'm a white guy but I'd rather they were autonomous in some way other than just being abused by a different system.
For my own tribe, the casino provides local jobs in the remote area where we were relocated. Part of our deal with the state is it designates a very significant portion of its revenue to economic, educational, and community development not just for the tribe, but for the entire region.
Pfft up here in Canada we get 5.00$ a year. Majority of us want to go to university or trade school but get denied funding almost 80% of the time. I wish the chief and council weren’t so corrupt up here.
I had a friend who almost got kicked out of his tribe? Nation? Because he went to college against the councils wishes I haven't been able to track him down since he went home, I hope he's okay
@@Osama_Zyn_Ladenaside from like 20% that are jews, the casinos are almost exclusively owned by rich indians (generally chiefs or other culturally significant people) or so heavily in debt that they're effectively owned by banks like goldman sachs.
Lots of reservations have a drug problems too and some of those revenues go back in to the community. Ultimately, there is no moral difference between the gaming and illicit drug industries. Both are out to extract the maximum, (everything), out of people who are addicts. When you add to this, loan sharking, prostitution and money laundering, more gaming is obviously the solution to every societies betterment.
In Oregon our tribes have worked closely together to make sure that their casinos are spread out so they can maximize their revenue (especially since tribal casinos are the ONLY casinos in Oregon). The closest casinos I know of are Spirit Mountain and Chinook Wilds which are like 25 miles away from each other and are on opposite sides of the coastal mountains
It’s called being conquered. You can say it. It’s happened to almost all of our ancestors throughout time. You’re just looking at a snapshot right now. every single Native American tribe that around nowadays has conquered another Native American tribe throughout history do you understand that? Oh, and by the way, you can do some reading to see how nicely these tribes trinity each other after they conquered them not good bedtime stories.
that money they get from the government is NOT an entitlement, it's essentially a loan the government took out against the land they took from Native Americans that the US Government must pay back in perpetuity for taking Indian land.
That is an extreme general statement that seems to be a false narrative that people run with. The truth is is that there were many tribes of native American Indians that fought and stole each other’s land and enslaved or killed each other’s people They formed alliances and enemies with other people, depending on the benefits If you think that white people stole Native American land, then you also must believe that Muslims stole Constantinople from the holy Roman Empire. You also must recognize that the Muslims under various caliphates were the biggest colonizers in the world.
I know a few people with gambling addictions. A good friend of mine for sure. Im not a big fan of casinos. It ruins lives. Most of the money the casinos make are off addicts which is disgusting to me.
Blame Congress. They’re the ones who created these carveouts that limit what kinds of industries can become profitable on indigenous land, and how. Indian Gaming Regulatory Act is the law to read.
As a resident nevadan i know damn well that casino revenue is NOT a reliable source of income. Gambling as a whole is dying since they cant replace their customers with younger ones. Also complaining about the government giving bare minimum assistance to the group of people theyve historically displaced and murdered is really fucked up lmao
A reinvestment and government effort into poverty stricken communities across the nation would do well in helping improve people’s lives. From inner cities, rural small towns, and reservations.
There’s so much oversight but also years of state and federal governments messing around, trying to either shut down or heavily tax certain casinos and they even ceased recognizing (this is what I remember from a lecture on modern native people in history) a tribe down south because they wanted to also open a casino but they argued they weren’t a real tribe since most of the members were mixed (especially part black)
This video points to a very common misconception I remember hearing when I was growing up. Rural Appalachia has a non-negligible Cherokee population, and people in my hometown always assumed that all indigenous people were rolling in money from casinos because of Harris.
As an Appalachian Native, I can assure you that corruption is a big thing in some tribes and most tribal citizens do not have that kind of money just handed to them from their tribe. Nobody in my tribe gets government or casino checks. I do know one person in Salt Lake City who is a part of an undisclosed tribe and she gets around $3,000 a month. She and her tribe are exceptions.
Another reason is corruption. The Three Affiliated Tribes in ND had "issues" paying their people for years, and suddenly, when everyone needed their money urgently, the tribes took the money they were supposed to pay and bought a bunch of land on the Las Vegas strip. Specifically, they bought the parcel of land where that massacre a few years ago occurred.
Live in the Caribbean and work at hotel,resort casimo that was bought by a north American tribes, during covid everyone was sent home for 6 months but we all got "full-paid" once the hotels were allow to re-open they incentive getting the covid vaccine with $300 Incentive for each doses
"If some Native Americans have a source of income, why do other Native Americans also need a source of income?" Such an intellectually lazy take, thanks for clearing this up! It was also really interesting to learn about traditional gambling games. I'd never thought about that before! But of course! So many cultures have gambling games, why wouldn't Indigenous cultures have them too? I really appreciate you helping to dismantle the myth that Native Americans are a monolith.
The Eastern Cherokee have had a casino in North Carolina for years. But while they have improved public buildings and presumably services, the average person’s home doesn't look that much better than before it was built.
If it's anything like the Texas lottery which is supposed to "fund education" for every dollar the lottery contributes a dollar is taken away from a different funding source so education is still minimally funded. Also I imagine the casino industry took a major hit in 2020
Yeah every native ive worked with pay taxes because they decided to get out of the reservation and join the economy. Sadly they still get alot of discrimination when they want to get or loan or rent an appartment. People just assume they are all very poor and irresponsable because of their skin...
@@karlehamel people also fail to realize that Inuit (what I am) and metis don't even get this tax exemption in the first place. Never have and likely never will. This is at least to my knowledge as an inuk and from what I've been told by metis friends.
@@SimsFraser I didn't know that Inuit didn't get taxe exemptions. I learned something new today. Seem weird to me. Ive only known Innus from Quebec north coast area so I guess the whole treaty structure and all must be quite different. Such a weird system...
@@karlehamel inuit communities are seperate from Innu. I'm honestly not entirely sure which group the Innu fall under but as far as I know the only indigenous people in Canada who are eligible for tax exemption would be card holding first Nations people on reserves. Inuit and metis people don't have reserves so our funding from the gov (cause yes we still do get funding just no where near as many) goes through independent Inuit governments such as the Nunatsiavut government or the couple that are in northern Quebec for example. I've been bullied in school for benefits I've never received and have had people tell me why should they care for inuit issues if we're "a nearly extinct race". It's insane the amount of inuit hate out there just because no one is talking about us and the ones that are brave enough to are harrased. It really is a screwed up system.
@@SimsFraser My father was in the armed forces and was stationed in goose-bay labrador for a few years. Alot of natives lived in a town near the base. I admit back then we were very mean towards the innus. They were mean towards us too and cant blame them. I dont think any of us were really racist. Kids are just dumb. My parents are from Quebec and french-canadian by blood. We got some shit from the anglos too. From children its one thing, but you would think adults would have outgrown that bullshit.
Also depends on the structure of ownership. If a tribal casino is owned by a private capitalist the best you’re gonna get is one rich person and few jobs for the locals. If a tribal casinos profits are sent to municipal universal welfare programs that’s a different story.
I’m sure you recognize the fact that the many tribes of Native Americans for oppressed stolen from an enslaved and murdered other tribes. The Native Americans were not just one group of people who fought against one group of white people. They were separated by tribe just like white people in this country were separated The Irish were treated worse than the blacks at one point The Italians were extremely discriminated against But yet people want to group white people as all the same, and claim that they are racist when they don’t realize that Americans were extremely brutal toward other people from other tribes The Native Americans were slave owners and oppressors as well that doesn’t excuse any of this but when this woke ideology, bullshit wants to blame white people for whatever it’s completely a false narrative
I’m sure you recognize the fact that the many tribes of Native Americans for oppressed stolen from an enslaved and murdered other tribes. The Native Americans were not just one group of people who fought against one group of white people. They were separated by tribe just like white people in this country were separated The Irish were treated worse than the blacks at one point The Italians were extremely discriminated against But yet people want to group white people as all the same, and claim that they are racist when they don’t realize that Americans were extremely brutal toward other people from other tribes The Native Americans were slave owners and oppressors as well that doesn’t excuse any of this but when this woke ideology, bullshit wants to blame white people for whatever it’s completely a false narrative
What about mineral rights? The utes in the uinta basin make more from mineral rights to oil wells than any casino could ever produce. The money goes directly to the tribe, yet the people still live in poverty with single room buildings for schools.
Even if they did, I don't really care about them owning casinos. It's a business they're able to run, and it's already regulated. Let them do their thing, it's not like they're a huge threat to the US, we have actual, valid threats to worry about more.
In my state the tribes use the profits from the casino to fund different programs or start other employment opportunities for tribal members. They learned it better to provide jobs then money
You also have to consider how the money from the casino is being used, given how capitalism generally goes, probably not to the people that ate actually suffering!
so this is an outsider looking in perspective, but the issue for reservations seems to be the fact that they're controlled by the fed and not allowed to cooperate with state level governments. it leads to insanely slow and pitiful responses to issues on reservations, wide spread corruption, and less representation in state government. I think if we made it so reservations acted as more of independent towns and cities that operated like most local governments you find they'd improve massively from things like state funding, and so on. But instead they only rely on the federal government for those things. and we all know the fed doesssss suchhhhh a great job at helping the citizens of this country. I also think that if tribes could provide more incentive for businesses to move into reservations you'd see a very quick improvement of life on reservations. But again that's controlled and regulated by the fed and no one wants to deal with the fed.
It's kinda funny to because generally when you look at tribes the ones that side with the US throughout history are treated pretty well. (IE didn't side with the British in the war of 1812 and didn't side with the confederates in the civil war.) What I would assumed fucked the Navajo were their incorporation in the Spanish system prior to the US taking over the territory and honestly just really assimilating into the new Spanish culture.
It's also very stupid because non-native American citizens receive way more funding in terms of education, roads, services while also having tons of businesses including casinos that. Native American communities are chronically underfunded compared to non-native American communities yet the little that Natives do receive is considered "handouts" while the many that non-Natives receive is their birthright. The very fact that certain Native communities wouldn't have a reliable source of income to rely if they didn't build a casino already says a lot about how little money is being given back to Native Americans than other Americans.
the issue there is that non res towns and such get funding from their states and the federal government, due to how the fed manages reservations. It's literally illegal for states to help fund native schools and governments they're totally separate and only governed by the fed. It's a convoluted mess of a system that honestly needs to go and be reformed so that states can have some involvement in reservations. It would only improve the standard of living on reservations and would still allow for autonomy.
My familys solutionfor generational poverty was joining the military. But the military also keeps people in poverty. So im 3 generation military brat. We have no legal tribal affiliation because my great grandfather joined the military in effort to support his ELEVEN children. My family still visits the lands, still have second cousins living on rez. The are my ansestors and family even if they hate me, my father, or the way my great grandfather tried to keep his kids alive.
This was welcome, but are you aware of the Diné story of how the Great Gambler acquired " power over people" and tribes in the Southwest turned away from that path? Thanks for your g[d work.
In Anishinaabemowin, playing cards are considered animate because they've long been connected to traditional practices. I don't judge Ojibwe casinos as inherently negative, but it does make me sad that we have to use culturally significant things for profit. Particularly when it can be connected to addiction
Total BS about being better regulated. In Oklahoma, each tribe has its own gaming commission. No way they are going to shut down their own tribe's money makers.
@@joshdale1518 you can Google it if you want to. I've never seen another Indigenous person claim to get money from the government and yet people like you are always saying we do. Do you really think the government would actually follow through on the promises it made? Really? I've gotten money from the Canadian government exactly one time, and it was very recent - a settlement from the government for stealing my tribe's land without a treaty. I'm never seeing money like that again, and I can't get the land back. My tribe's reserve is on a tiny island where the poverty rate is as close to 100% as you can get.
You aren’t US citizens your considered sovereign nations in the US or something you have your own government why would you be paid because you ancestors lost some land 150 years ago
I always thought the casinos were a loophole in states where gambling was illegal on the reservation. You're not on that state's land. Therefore you can have the casino. Kind of like the casino boats back east. Can't gamble in Massachusetts but you can get on this your boat and we'll go out into international water and that's when the games begin
well take that casino money and make an Indian sovereign fund that pays the Indian populace a stipend with regulations for reviewing said stipend such as being educated, fulfilling a service for the Indian community like hospitals etc
As a non-American Indian casinos are one of those things you see in an episode of The Simpsons or whatever and you just have to accept as Weird American Stuff
Why don't more of them integrate or move off the reservation? I know it isn't a pleasant option but there are more opportunities off the reservation than on them.
Why should a tribe with a reservation need state approval to open a casino on their land? I know a lot don't make a lot from casinos. But don't a number of the treaties require the government to do things like provide support?
It definitely doesn’t help the corruption in the reservation, where you hear that those elected to lead often just line their own pockets with the money they receive from the federal government.
Well then there’s the issue of the owners of the casinos taking in cash while none-to very few people in the tribes actually collect any money. Just look at Sandia Casino and Resort: they’re so stringent and it’s so lucrative that they have less than 100 tribal members as they all have a cut on the casino, incentiving them to shut out many others who actually have Sandia Pubelo heritage
I'm curious why the tribes don't practice solidarity. Or why rent is high on the res because a few wealthy land owners. Maybe the lesson of greed and selfishness has been learned to well. United people stand, divided people fail. ANY group, tribe, or nation.
Correct me if im wrong but i was under the assumption that individual person does not own land in a reservation, but its owned collectively as a tribe, and then the latter sets the rental prices for homes (?) I cant really pinpoint where this comes from though, im like 60% sure i read this somewhere and just accepted it as a fact and moved on edit// it just dawned on me that there are multitude of tribes and reservations maybe they each have their own rules?
@@ItsAweeb so somehow the United States still has the bureau of Indian affairs. Just as Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and American Samoa are different levels of the United States the same is true of the 574 "recognized tribes/nations". Many reservations are not "owned" by the tribe (nation) that sits on the land at all. Instead it is owned by the federal government and held "in reservation" for tribal use. Truly uniting is semi-impossible: 1. That would be equal to forming the EU times over 574 individual Nations... The EU didn't make it to 30 before the UK dropped out. 2. Every treaty is different and not every nation has the same rights to self-governance, freedom of movement, and land ownership as the others. It's messed up really. The reservation and territory system allows these nations to be sovereign; as long as they bend to the will of the federal government/Congress. However, the treaty that gives them their semi sovereignty and semi-autonomy usually involves: Receiving the worst piece of land Not actually owning the land Losing their sovereignty as soon as they move to/buy some other piece of land
Actually, I think the opposite is the solution. Let me explain: The Native Americans that are wealthy land owners paid for that land themselves, and when you pay for your land you can basically do whatever you want to with it. You can build on that land, develop that land, grow on that land. But when the land is controlled by the Burea of Indian Affairs i.e. the government there are limits to what you can. You can't do nearly as many things on tribal land because you need to get permission. Because you don't own the land. White people got rich through private property rights and businesses. So the answer isn't unity, it's individualism
So while i understand that since this is a short you can’t enclude all the details and edge cases it should be pointed out that many tribes as part of their treaties are supposed to receive money from the government
And some tribes live in places where a casino won't do shit for them....I don't imagine there's much point running a casino in Nevada (to much competition)compared to say New York. (Where there ain't any casinos that I'm aware of).
A goodly portion of tribes with casinos see little benefit financially. They aren't taking in huge sums. Like the one I'm at, we're lucky to even be open and it will be many years before any profit might go to the tribe. The surrounding communities have purposefully shut out natives economically for generations. Casinos give natives a place they can get a job at. And they're low paying jobs as most management positions go to non-natives. So many misconceptions have people believing natives just get loads of free money. The level of poverty is beyond imaginable to most Americans.
Then there's the Seminole people: They own the freaking Hard Rock Cafe Hotel/Casino brand, and have since 2007! High five to them! This makes me more likely to stay there next time I go to Vegas, tbh. 😆 Also, the San Manuel Mission band of Indians owns and operates the Palms hotel and casino. Nice to see tribes starting to branch out into bigger ventures!
Someone once said sarcastically if I love the "Indians" so much, why don't I buy a house and give it to an Indian. That ashole was talking about Native Americans. If people are so upset that their land was stolen, why don't people buy land and give it to them for free? This got me thinking that's an excellent idea for a charity. Buy up old shitty houses, find Native families that live near those houses who are in need, and give it to them.
I don’t think it’s the casinos that people are complaining about. I think it’s the fact that you have almost complete sovereignty yet still get money from the government you hate
You deserve to have your LAND back or reparations alongside many others. I lost so much family in WWII both Jewish during the Shoah [Hebrew word for Holocaust] and Dutch and a great many extended family members from the Indonesian islands. We don't talk about how much suffering your Peoples have been forced to endure. We don't talk about modern day slavery fuelling all Western economic movement. We don't talk about the devastating effects of what Japan did; in fact the US and Europe have been complicit in covering up an OBSCENE amount of information; it should be a criminal offence. It hurts as a Jew that different standards have always applied to me and my people. It has taught me empathy as well as sympathy from a pretty young age, I see the same thing in other communities. I still say that you deserve to share the right to use the word Holocaust if it feels right and if it doesn't fit for you that is also OK. I offer solidarity as I do to the African American communities because my g-d they should receive financial and other justice. Very few of those of us who survived ever got any of their own possessions back, much less reparations either. We did not get special treatment. I don't want to claim anything, I want to see it going wherever it will do the most good.
Not to mention that the money that the government gives to native american reservations, Belongs to the reservations.It's just managed to bite the government Poorly.
I have a very bizarre position. I think American indians and their various cultures are not only a important part of American culture and philosophy but the way we treated them really shifted our views. Natives back then were not paragons of virtue but neither were white people. I don't think people really appreciate the fact that the conquest of America likely would not have happened if it was not for the disease that came with us to America. Looking back, anthropologically many northern native Americans were on the same development route the germans had been going down when it comes to What technologies they were valuing and the way of lives they lived, I would compare Central America and sizable chunks of South America to the various Mediterranean cultures from around the 1000 bc give or take. This is not speaking ill of american indians, in fact, it is a praise for what they were able to do against the white Invaders with what limited resources and people that they had. It also makes what the United States and Canada did all the worse. I am not nearly as well versed as what happened in Canada, but I know for certain what America did was definitely a genocide. Potentially when america was founded there was as many as 18 million American Indians on their continent. 1492-1900 The population of American Indians dropped 98%. The simple fact of the matter is no one reasonably can justify that. With that being said, I would not characterize the land as being stolen, It was conquered as brutal and horrible as that is. It is the truth, It is the truth of almost every civilization in history that they have pushed out, eradicated or bred with a inhabiting populace. The Indo-Europeans effectively genocided all of the male Europeans when they arrived. Even the native Americans did this, When they were pushed from their home region they would enter into another, some of which were famously successful in doing so carving out a new life for themselves. I think one of the best things America can do to try and rectify the mistakes of lesser men is to attempt to find a way we could better stimulate wealth circulation within native American communities, in doing this It is not wash the blood off of America's hands nor is it meant to. This nation however, was founded on a number of ideas both European and native, Even abrahamic. God calls Christians to treat each other like brothers and sisters, The United States is founded on another fundamentally important Christian principle. The value of the individual and the sanctity of human life. As easy as it is to be resentful to the founding fathers for their actions and they're permitting of slavery to exist in America (which by and large they did not want) It is important to understand that these were men, These were men of a Time well before our own. You couldn't just Google up statistics, Data and calculate the risk of freeing the slaves at the time. They had to at the end of the day follow their gut. And their gut said the only way that America would have survived was to lay down the groundwork for removing slavery in the future, but they saw it as too dangerous to remove then. Many of the founding fathers believed that they would be punished by God because of this, That the nation would be punished by God. My goal with this message is to implore anyone to understand that history is incredibly nuanced and almost every civilization has some kind of beauty and Majesty to it, as well as crucial and critical flaws. We make mistakes and we hurt each other not just as individuals but on a national level. At the end of the day I believe it is European Americans that need to take the first step, And it needs to be the right kind of step, otherwise it could cause even worse issues down the line, (take native schools. They were promised to be this great enlightening thing but they weren't). The only thing I can hope for is to push to try and mend this wound between people and hopefully make the world just a bit less shitty
I'm 99%native from redlake mn. I still lose, and probably always will, I can't gamble the way old rich folk do, saw one lady win bingo 5 times in a row, 2500$ but she spent it all back so idk
That’s been tried, but the Native Americans didn’t actually want to Some did most didn’t. I bet if you asked Native Americans in retrospect, they probably would’ve built a wall.
I never that was a question at all. But now that we are on the topic 1 if its tribal land outside of USA distraction then why cant you do whatever you want on it. 2 if it's your land why should you receive any USA payments (just asking not a statement) 3 why should proverty have anything to do with casino ownership. if your poor and the USA government wants to help that should be independent of gambling
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Indigenous woman here and I can tell you the number 1 reason that so many people on the rez are poor is because of corruption within the native governments on the reservations
Drive around and see the disparity between those in native government ( big houses, fancy vehicles) and then see all the others
Damn, even in reservations, the government is still evil.
It's the same thing in the South especially in Arkansas and Mississippi and Louisiana and Alabama
@@mannco9458 Power corrupts, no matter who holds it.
So get the government pit
Yeah, I've noticed that on the reservation near where I grew up.
Incredibly successful casino, people evicted at convenience, a highly successful cigarette factory.
But also poverty and addiction among the citizens is running rampant.
Chiefs and other officials are millionaires, in case you couldn't guess.
I'm a white guy but I'd rather they were autonomous in some way other than just being abused by a different system.
Also having one succesful casino cannot magically lift a community out of poverty.
In the case of Foxwoods (the one on top at 0:30), it has put the Mashantucket Pequots in lots of debt.
Trickle down economics is famously bullshit. A casino however is the opposite, they consolidate the wealth of the poor, in the hands of the rich.
@@nimo6972 “what do you mean you won’t shave your land bald and poison the water supply for 2% royalties 😢”
Also anything the government does ends up damaging everyone it's "helping" so there's that....
@@nimo6972they don’t want oil in their well water. Relatable.
For my own tribe, the casino provides local jobs in the remote area where we were relocated. Part of our deal with the state is it designates a very significant portion of its revenue to economic, educational, and community development not just for the tribe, but for the entire region.
Yup totally 💯% ALL THAT U STATED THANK U
I would love to read more about this, especially about the “signed deal”?
VERY VERY SMALL almost like the tribes would like to make as much money offf citizens and give back the smallest amount possible
This video is stupid as hell
@@joshdale1518Make money off "citizens"... WHO EXACTLY are these "citizens" do you think you are talking about!??!? #Taino #Mohawk
Pfft up here in Canada we get 5.00$ a year. Majority of us want to go to university or trade school but get denied funding almost 80% of the time. I wish the chief and council weren’t so corrupt up here.
I had a friend who almost got kicked out of his tribe? Nation? Because he went to college against the councils wishes
I haven't been able to track him down since he went home, I hope he's okay
Lots of those casinos are owned by financiers or banks etc and only some of the profits go to the people
I wonder who those Bankers are....
@@Osama_Zyn_Ladenaside from like 20% that are jews, the casinos are almost exclusively owned by rich indians (generally chiefs or other culturally significant people) or so heavily in debt that they're effectively owned by banks like goldman sachs.
@@Osama_Zyn_Ladenoy vey don't ask questions
Lots of reservations have a drug problems too and some of those revenues go back in to the community. Ultimately, there is no moral difference between the gaming and illicit drug industries.
Both are out to extract the maximum, (everything), out of people who are addicts.
When you add to this, loan sharking, prostitution and money laundering, more gaming is obviously the solution to every societies betterment.
@@MandarrNNRU I started noticing a pattern with their last names. I wonder what all those last names have in common
In Oregon our tribes have worked closely together to make sure that their casinos are spread out so they can maximize their revenue (especially since tribal casinos are the ONLY casinos in Oregon). The closest casinos I know of are Spirit Mountain and Chinook Wilds which are like 25 miles away from each other and are on opposite sides of the coastal mountains
Surprisingly I have never once heard that complaint because the Native Americans around here don't have a casino
O, Yes we do 😂
The revenue also goes back to the tribal government not the people. And just as with any government, there is corruption.
Remember this: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
Also, money is how the government halfheartedly fulfills its treaty obligations for all the land that was... appropriated.
There are two types of people in this world: conquerers, and the conquered
It’s called being conquered. You can say it. It’s happened to almost all of our ancestors throughout time. You’re just looking at a snapshot right now. every single Native American tribe that around nowadays has conquered another Native American tribe throughout history do you understand that? Oh, and by the way, you can do some reading to see how nicely these tribes trinity each other after they conquered them not good bedtime stories.
@@jgoemaatYeah, say that when some squatter comes to take your land.
@@lbarnx prey
Finessed, if you will
that money they get from the government is NOT an entitlement, it's essentially a loan the government took out against the land they took from Native Americans that the US Government must pay back in perpetuity for taking Indian land.
That is an extreme general statement that seems to be a false narrative that people run with. The truth is is that there were many tribes of native American Indians that fought and stole each other’s land and enslaved or killed each other’s people They formed alliances and enemies with other people, depending on the benefits If you think that white people stole Native American land, then you also must believe that Muslims stole Constantinople from the holy Roman Empire. You also must recognize that the Muslims under various caliphates were the biggest colonizers in the world.
I know a few people with gambling addictions. A good friend of mine for sure. Im not a big fan of casinos. It ruins lives. Most of the money the casinos make are off addicts which is disgusting to me.
Blame Congress. They’re the ones who created these carveouts that limit what kinds of industries can become profitable on indigenous land, and how. Indian Gaming Regulatory Act is the law to read.
Nah it’s the persons choice where they want to spend their money. Blame the gamblers you know lol, not casinos
@@harpoonmillion9142ever say that to an alcoholic or a drug addict? Blame the addict not the liquor store/drug dealer. smh
@@harpoonmillion9142you are not immune to propaganda
Every industry across the globe generates addiction of some fashion
As a resident nevadan i know damn well that casino revenue is NOT a reliable source of income. Gambling as a whole is dying since they cant replace their customers with younger ones.
Also complaining about the government giving bare minimum assistance to the group of people theyve historically displaced and murdered is really fucked up lmao
A reinvestment and government effort into poverty stricken communities across the nation would do well in helping improve people’s lives. From inner cities, rural small towns, and reservations.
There’s so much oversight but also years of state and federal governments messing around, trying to either shut down or heavily tax certain casinos and they even ceased recognizing (this is what I remember from a lecture on modern native people in history) a tribe down south because they wanted to also open a casino but they argued they weren’t a real tribe since most of the members were mixed (especially part black)
This video points to a very common misconception I remember hearing when I was growing up. Rural Appalachia has a non-negligible Cherokee population, and people in my hometown always assumed that all indigenous people were rolling in money from casinos because of Harris.
As an Appalachian Native, I can assure you that corruption is a big thing in some tribes and most tribal citizens do not have that kind of money just handed to them from their tribe. Nobody in my tribe gets government or casino checks. I do know one person in Salt Lake City who is a part of an undisclosed tribe and she gets around $3,000 a month. She and her tribe are exceptions.
Another reason is corruption. The Three Affiliated Tribes in ND had "issues" paying their people for years, and suddenly, when everyone needed their money urgently, the tribes took the money they were supposed to pay and bought a bunch of land on the Las Vegas strip. Specifically, they bought the parcel of land where that massacre a few years ago occurred.
Live in the Caribbean and work at hotel,resort casimo that was bought by a north American tribes, during covid everyone was sent home for 6 months but we all got "full-paid" once the hotels were allow to re-open they incentive getting the covid vaccine with $300 Incentive for each doses
"If some Native Americans have a source of income, why do other Native Americans also need a source of income?" Such an intellectually lazy take, thanks for clearing this up! It was also really interesting to learn about traditional gambling games. I'd never thought about that before! But of course! So many cultures have gambling games, why wouldn't Indigenous cultures have them too? I really appreciate you helping to dismantle the myth that Native Americans are a monolith.
The Eastern Cherokee have had a casino in North Carolina for years. But while they have improved public buildings and presumably services, the average person’s home doesn't look that much better than before it was built.
Im mainly Slavic but my grandmother is Native American and I’d love to figure out more about her family history but I don’t really know where to start
There is a Casino on the Reservation that I’m from. But it doesn’t bring in any extra revenue it only provides employment
I have literally never heard anyone ask that. And I live near Casinos.
If it's anything like the Texas lottery which is supposed to "fund education" for every dollar the lottery contributes a dollar is taken away from a different funding source so education is still minimally funded. Also I imagine the casino industry took a major hit in 2020
I would LOVE to learn more about the traditional games. So fascinating
I mean nearly all cultures have ancient versions of gambling
Come to Canada where we don't have casinos and I still get harassed for not needing to pay taxes (I do)
Yeah every native ive worked with pay taxes because they decided to get out of the reservation and join the economy. Sadly they still get alot of discrimination when they want to get or loan or rent an appartment. People just assume they are all very poor and irresponsable because of their skin...
@@karlehamel people also fail to realize that Inuit (what I am) and metis don't even get this tax exemption in the first place. Never have and likely never will. This is at least to my knowledge as an inuk and from what I've been told by metis friends.
@@SimsFraser I didn't know that Inuit didn't get taxe exemptions. I learned something new today. Seem weird to me. Ive only known Innus from Quebec north coast area so I guess the whole treaty structure and all must be quite different. Such a weird system...
@@karlehamel inuit communities are seperate from Innu. I'm honestly not entirely sure which group the Innu fall under but as far as I know the only indigenous people in Canada who are eligible for tax exemption would be card holding first Nations people on reserves. Inuit and metis people don't have reserves so our funding from the gov (cause yes we still do get funding just no where near as many) goes through independent Inuit governments such as the Nunatsiavut government or the couple that are in northern Quebec for example. I've been bullied in school for benefits I've never received and have had people tell me why should they care for inuit issues if we're "a nearly extinct race". It's insane the amount of inuit hate out there just because no one is talking about us and the ones that are brave enough to are harrased. It really is a screwed up system.
@@SimsFraser My father was in the armed forces and was stationed in goose-bay labrador for a few years. Alot of natives lived in a town near the base. I admit back then we were very mean towards the innus. They were mean towards us too and cant blame them. I dont think any of us were really racist. Kids are just dumb.
My parents are from Quebec and french-canadian by blood. We got some shit from the anglos too.
From children its one thing, but you would think adults would have outgrown that bullshit.
Also depends on the structure of ownership. If a tribal casino is owned by a private capitalist the best you’re gonna get is one rich person and few jobs for the locals.
If a tribal casinos profits are sent to municipal universal welfare programs that’s a different story.
Good to know. Thanks.
Its sad the countinuing suffering of your people. I hope the best for you, and a future where any human can thrive regardless of culture
I’m sure you recognize the fact that the many tribes of Native Americans for oppressed stolen from an enslaved and murdered other tribes. The Native Americans were not just one group of people who fought against one group of white people. They were separated by tribe just like white people in this country were separated The Irish were treated worse than the blacks at one point The Italians were extremely discriminated against But yet people want to group white people as all the same, and claim that they are racist when they don’t realize that Americans were extremely brutal toward other people from other tribes The Native Americans were slave owners and oppressors as well that doesn’t excuse any of this but when this woke ideology, bullshit wants to blame white people for whatever it’s completely a false narrative
I’m sure you recognize the fact that the many tribes of Native Americans for oppressed stolen from an enslaved and murdered other tribes. The Native Americans were not just one group of people who fought against one group of white people. They were separated by tribe just like white people in this country were separated The Irish were treated worse than the blacks at one point The Italians were extremely discriminated against But yet people want to group white people as all the same, and claim that they are racist when they don’t realize that Americans were extremely brutal toward other people from other tribes The Native Americans were slave owners and oppressors as well that doesn’t excuse any of this but when this woke ideology, bullshit wants to blame white people for whatever it’s completely a false narrative
“Since, welll, for a long time” is less than I expect from PBS.
Thats why my great grandmother life the tribe. Nothing for her. Moved to Ohio and had a good life
What about mineral rights? The utes in the uinta basin make more from mineral rights to oil wells than any casino could ever produce. The money goes directly to the tribe, yet the people still live in poverty with single room buildings for schools.
Those are owned and regulated by the federal government via the BIA.
Didn't even know they had government assistance.
Oh yeah, Native Americans get over 4.6 billion dollars per year in government handouts.
Even if they did, I don't really care about them owning casinos. It's a business they're able to run, and it's already regulated. Let them do their thing, it's not like they're a huge threat to the US, we have actual, valid threats to worry about more.
In my state the tribes use the profits from the casino to fund different programs or start other employment opportunities for tribal members. They learned it better to provide jobs then money
I rode through the Isleta Pueblo before they opened their casino, I will never ask why they get money.
You also have to consider how the money from the casino is being used, given how capitalism generally goes, probably not to the people that ate actually suffering!
so this is an outsider looking in perspective, but the issue for reservations seems to be the fact that they're controlled by the fed and not allowed to cooperate with state level governments.
it leads to insanely slow and pitiful responses to issues on reservations, wide spread corruption, and less representation in state government.
I think if we made it so reservations acted as more of independent towns and cities that operated like most local governments you find they'd improve massively from things like state funding, and so on. But instead they only rely on the federal government for those things. and we all know the fed doesssss suchhhhh a great job at helping the citizens of this country.
I also think that if tribes could provide more incentive for businesses to move into reservations you'd see a very quick improvement of life on reservations. But again that's controlled and regulated by the fed and no one wants to deal with the fed.
Me a navajo: yall are getting paid?
It's kinda funny to because generally when you look at tribes the ones that side with the US throughout history are treated pretty well. (IE didn't side with the British in the war of 1812 and didn't side with the confederates in the civil war.)
What I would assumed fucked the Navajo were their incorporation in the Spanish system prior to the US taking over the territory and honestly just really assimilating into the new Spanish culture.
Tribal casinos are great way to maintain control over a group of people
GREAT work.
It's also very stupid because non-native American citizens receive way more funding in terms of education, roads, services while also having tons of businesses including casinos that. Native American communities are chronically underfunded compared to non-native American communities yet the little that Natives do receive is considered "handouts" while the many that non-Natives receive is their birthright.
The very fact that certain Native communities wouldn't have a reliable source of income to rely if they didn't build a casino already says a lot about how little money is being given back to Native Americans than other Americans.
the issue there is that non res towns and such get funding from their states and the federal government, due to how the fed manages reservations. It's literally illegal for states to help fund native schools and governments they're totally separate and only governed by the fed.
It's a convoluted mess of a system that honestly needs to go and be reformed so that states can have some involvement in reservations. It would only improve the standard of living on reservations and would still allow for autonomy.
Also who is paying for the casinos to be built? That requires money probably from the government
My familys solutionfor generational poverty was joining the military. But the military also keeps people in poverty. So im 3 generation military brat. We have no legal tribal affiliation because my great grandfather joined the military in effort to support his ELEVEN children.
My family still visits the lands, still have second cousins living on rez. The are my ansestors and family even if they hate me, my father, or the way my great grandfather tried to keep his kids alive.
This was welcome, but are you aware of the Diné story of how the Great Gambler acquired " power over people" and tribes in the Southwest turned away from that path? Thanks for your g[d work.
We should help out all born in lower 48 and Alaska. Hawaii is a discussion too.
In Anishinaabemowin, playing cards are considered animate because they've long been connected to traditional practices. I don't judge Ojibwe casinos as inherently negative, but it does make me sad that we have to use culturally significant things for profit. Particularly when it can be connected to addiction
Yeah, this argument always pissed me off.
Total BS about being better regulated. In Oklahoma, each tribe has its own gaming commission. No way they are going to shut down their own tribe's money makers.
Still have to follow NIGC regs
Natives always get dumped on
Cash dumps ? Yea
Assimilate. Stop playing the victim.
@jessegarman7899 we are victims though. Never assimilate
@@jessegarman7899Grow up.
Try being black.
💯% yup XACTLY
We don't get money from the us government and we DO pay taxes🙄
You don’t get money from the government? Really? Cap.
@@joshdale1518 you can Google it if you want to. I've never seen another Indigenous person claim to get money from the government and yet people like you are always saying we do. Do you really think the government would actually follow through on the promises it made? Really?
I've gotten money from the Canadian government exactly one time, and it was very recent - a settlement from the government for stealing my tribe's land without a treaty. I'm never seeing money like that again, and I can't get the land back. My tribe's reserve is on a tiny island where the poverty rate is as close to 100% as you can get.
@joshdale1518 alot tribes don't
You aren’t US citizens your considered sovereign nations in the US or something you have your own government why would you be paid because you ancestors lost some land 150 years ago
How do you feel about them making the money off people who say, have a gambling problem though?
My tribe has two failing casinos and I get a check in the mail every year for $8
I always thought the casinos were a loophole in states where gambling was illegal on the reservation. You're not on that state's land. Therefore you can have the casino. Kind of like the casino boats back east. Can't gamble in Massachusetts but you can get on this your boat and we'll go out into international water and that's when the games begin
well take that casino money and make an Indian sovereign fund that pays the Indian populace a stipend with regulations for reviewing said stipend such as being educated, fulfilling a service for the Indian community like hospitals etc
As a non-American Indian casinos are one of those things you see in an episode of The Simpsons or whatever and you just have to accept as Weird American Stuff
What else do they do besides opening casinos?
Why don't more of them integrate or move off the reservation? I know it isn't a pleasant option but there are more opportunities off the reservation than on them.
This dude really comparing traditional games to slot machines 💀💀
Why should a tribe with a reservation need state approval to open a casino on their land?
I know a lot don't make a lot from casinos. But don't a number of the treaties require the government to do things like provide support?
I would love to know why natives are involved with casinos in the first place. Why casinos?
Because of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act.
Any state can but the tribes that are in said states have already taken the monopoly because it’s much harder for us to legalize it.
"Why does the government ahave to pay the people they stole land from when they can make their own money" basically the question they asked
I’ve never been to any one of them. Don’t ever plan to either.
It definitely doesn’t help the corruption in the reservation, where you hear that those elected to lead often just line their own pockets with the money they receive from the federal government.
Well then there’s the issue of the owners of the casinos taking in cash while none-to very few people in the tribes actually collect any money. Just look at Sandia Casino and Resort: they’re so stringent and it’s so lucrative that they have less than 100 tribal members as they all have a cut on the casino, incentiving them to shut out many others who actually have Sandia Pubelo heritage
I'm curious why the tribes don't practice solidarity.
Or why rent is high on the res because a few wealthy land owners.
Maybe the lesson of greed and selfishness has been learned to well.
United people stand, divided people fail.
ANY group, tribe, or nation.
They did accept some Europeans into the tribes. It could be genetic.
Correct me if im wrong but i was under the assumption that individual person does not own land in a reservation, but its owned collectively as a tribe, and then the latter sets the rental prices for homes (?)
I cant really pinpoint where this comes from though, im like 60% sure i read this somewhere and just accepted it as a fact and moved on
edit// it just dawned on me that there are multitude of tribes and reservations maybe they each have their own rules?
@@ItsAweeb so somehow the United States still has the bureau of Indian affairs.
Just as Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and American Samoa are different levels of the United States the same is true of the 574 "recognized tribes/nations".
Many reservations are not "owned" by the tribe (nation) that sits on the land at all. Instead it is owned by the federal government and held "in reservation" for tribal use.
Truly uniting is semi-impossible:
1. That would be equal to forming the EU times over 574 individual Nations... The EU didn't make it to 30 before the UK dropped out.
2. Every treaty is different and not every nation has the same rights to self-governance, freedom of movement, and land ownership as the others.
It's messed up really. The reservation and territory system allows these nations to be sovereign; as long as they bend to the will of the federal government/Congress.
However, the treaty that gives them their semi sovereignty and semi-autonomy usually involves:
Receiving the worst piece of land
Not actually owning the land
Losing their sovereignty as soon as they move to/buy some other piece of land
They ARE standing together. It happens in all races and tribes: the wealthy stand together and the poor fall together.
Actually, I think the opposite is the solution. Let me explain: The Native Americans that are wealthy land owners paid for that land themselves, and when you pay for your land you can basically do whatever you want to with it. You can build on that land, develop that land, grow on that land. But when the land is controlled by the Burea of Indian Affairs i.e. the government there are limits to what you can. You can't do nearly as many things on tribal land because you need to get permission. Because you don't own the land. White people got rich through private property rights and businesses. So the answer isn't unity, it's individualism
You can make a hell of a lot of money with a casino, but you can’t provide for a whole nation with it.
Also, the land was stolen, money is not a gift, it's bargain repayment
Sadly my tribe isnt allowed to own a casino, because someone in the past decided to rob a wholr casino and burn it down
“Why do they get money from the government?” Uhhhh because we owe them big time, for the rest of time.
So while i understand that since this is a short you can’t enclude all the details and edge cases it should be pointed out that many tribes as part of their treaties are supposed to receive money from the government
Because it's proof that communal wealth fails the communities it's meant to help.
And some tribes live in places where a casino won't do shit for them....I don't imagine there's much point running a casino in Nevada (to much competition)compared to say New York. (Where there ain't any casinos that I'm aware of).
I have never heard anyone say that.😂 But if they do ooof😅
Not all tribes have profitable gambling even if they have facilities. Running gambling and hospitality is expensive and difficult
And then there are the federally "unrecognized"...
The Seminoles have a really nice casino. Every tribal member gets a check from the casino every month. They're doing pretty ok
So that's literally only 1 tribe outta OVER 500+ tribes 😂 lol
An exception and not the rule
Yes and it took literally over a century of rebuilding their communal capital despite active government suppression to purchase that casino.
@@ReignChargerno it’s the rule with exceptions
The Lakotah run Mystic Lake in MN and making bank. They get massive monthly checks.
A goodly portion of tribes with casinos see little benefit financially. They aren't taking in huge sums. Like the one I'm at, we're lucky to even be open and it will be many years before any profit might go to the tribe. The surrounding communities have purposefully shut out natives economically for generations. Casinos give natives a place they can get a job at. And they're low paying jobs as most management positions go to non-natives. So many misconceptions have people believing natives just get loads of free money. The level of poverty is beyond imaginable to most Americans.
I wish my ancestors were bad at fighting wars. 😂😂
Maybe i would get a handout.
I agree. i was once christian and turned aithiest.
The Lakotah are racking in the dollars! 😂
Then there's the Seminole people: They own the freaking Hard Rock Cafe Hotel/Casino brand, and have since 2007! High five to them! This makes me more likely to stay there next time I go to Vegas, tbh. 😆
Also, the San Manuel Mission band of Indians owns and operates the Palms hotel and casino. Nice to see tribes starting to branch out into bigger ventures!
Many of the poorest zip codes in the US are located in American Indian Reservations.
Someone once said sarcastically if I love the "Indians" so much, why don't I buy a house and give it to an Indian. That ashole was talking about Native Americans. If people are so upset that their land was stolen, why don't people buy land and give it to them for free? This got me thinking that's an excellent idea for a charity. Buy up old shitty houses, find Native families that live near those houses who are in need, and give it to them.
In my entire life, I’m probably down a total of $500. But I had a lot of fun. It’s entertainment.
Do they think every native American owns a casino?
I don’t think it’s the casinos that people are complaining about. I think it’s the fact that you have almost complete sovereignty yet still get money from the government you hate
Yeah bro, everybody has been gambling forever my guy.
You deserve to have your LAND back or reparations alongside many others.
I lost so much family in WWII both Jewish during the Shoah [Hebrew word for Holocaust] and Dutch and a great many extended family members from the Indonesian islands.
We don't talk about how much suffering your Peoples have been forced to endure.
We don't talk about modern day slavery fuelling all Western economic movement.
We don't talk about the devastating effects of what Japan did; in fact the US and Europe have been complicit in covering up an OBSCENE amount of information; it should be a criminal offence.
It hurts as a Jew that different standards have always applied to me and my people.
It has taught me empathy as well as sympathy from a pretty young age, I see the same thing in other communities.
I still say that you deserve to share the right to use the word Holocaust if it feels right and if it doesn't fit for you that is also OK.
I offer solidarity as I do to the African American communities because my g-d they should receive financial and other justice.
Very few of those of us who survived ever got any of their own possessions back, much less reparations either.
We did not get special treatment.
I don't want to claim anything, I want to see it going wherever it will do the most good.
Why censor the word God?
@@Harib_Al-Saq I'm not. It's just a Jewish custom to write it like that.
So maybe the holy Roadman Empire should get their land back from the Muslims who conquered Constantinople.
see the rest of us are also in poverty. it's frustrating because you don't have an answer.
What free government money is there, and how does one apply?
Most tribes don't benefit from the casinos anyway. Only the casino owners tend to, and they rarely pass that back down to the tribe.
They still shouldn't get the money. If eellfare lifted people out of poverty the bastards would have got themselves sorted a long time ago
Not to mention that the money that the government gives to native american reservations, Belongs to the reservations.It's just managed to bite the government Poorly.
Guessing games and casinos have zero to do with each other.
I have a very bizarre position. I think American indians and their various cultures are not only a important part of American culture and philosophy but the way we treated them really shifted our views. Natives back then were not paragons of virtue but neither were white people. I don't think people really appreciate the fact that the conquest of America likely would not have happened if it was not for the disease that came with us to America. Looking back, anthropologically many northern native Americans were on the same development route the germans had been going down when it comes to What technologies they were valuing and the way of lives they lived, I would compare Central America and sizable chunks of South America to the various Mediterranean cultures from around the 1000 bc give or take. This is not speaking ill of american indians, in fact, it is a praise for what they were able to do against the white Invaders with what limited resources and people that they had. It also makes what the United States and Canada did all the worse. I am not nearly as well versed as what happened in Canada, but I know for certain what America did was definitely a genocide. Potentially when america was founded there was as many as 18 million American Indians on their continent. 1492-1900 The population of American Indians dropped 98%. The simple fact of the matter is no one reasonably can justify that. With that being said, I would not characterize the land as being stolen, It was conquered as brutal and horrible as that is. It is the truth, It is the truth of almost every civilization in history that they have pushed out, eradicated or bred with a inhabiting populace. The Indo-Europeans effectively genocided all of the male Europeans when they arrived. Even the native Americans did this, When they were pushed from their home region they would enter into another, some of which were famously successful in doing so carving out a new life for themselves. I think one of the best things America can do to try and rectify the mistakes of lesser men is to attempt to find a way we could better stimulate wealth circulation within native American communities, in doing this It is not wash the blood off of America's hands nor is it meant to. This nation however, was founded on a number of ideas both European and native, Even abrahamic. God calls Christians to treat each other like brothers and sisters, The United States is founded on another fundamentally important Christian principle. The value of the individual and the sanctity of human life. As easy as it is to be resentful to the founding fathers for their actions and they're permitting of slavery to exist in America (which by and large they did not want) It is important to understand that these were men, These were men of a Time well before our own. You couldn't just Google up statistics, Data and calculate the risk of freeing the slaves at the time. They had to at the end of the day follow their gut. And their gut said the only way that America would have survived was to lay down the groundwork for removing slavery in the future, but they saw it as too dangerous to remove then. Many of the founding fathers believed that they would be punished by God because of this, That the nation would be punished by God.
My goal with this message is to implore anyone to understand that history is incredibly nuanced and almost every civilization has some kind of beauty and Majesty to it, as well as crucial and critical flaws. We make mistakes and we hurt each other not just as individuals but on a national level. At the end of the day I believe it is European Americans that need to take the first step, And it needs to be the right kind of step, otherwise it could cause even worse issues down the line, (take native schools. They were promised to be this great enlightening thing but they weren't). The only thing I can hope for is to push to try and mend this wound between people and hopefully make the world just a bit less shitty
I'm 99%native from redlake mn. I still lose, and probably always will, I can't gamble the way old rich folk do, saw one lady win bingo 5 times in a row, 2500$ but she spent it all back so idk
Also saw someone spin 800 down to 0$ and that broke the guy he tried to steal a tip jar from the restaurant afterwards and got banned
considering we're on Their land, paying for it seems fair.
Maybe, just maybe, we should incorporate the tribes fully into the rest of the nation?
Just a thought.
That’s been tried, but the Native Americans didn’t actually want to Some did most didn’t. I bet if you asked Native Americans in retrospect, they probably would’ve built a wall.
I never that was a question at all. But now that we are on the topic 1 if its tribal land outside of USA distraction then why cant you do whatever you want on it. 2 if it's your land why should you receive any USA payments (just asking not a statement) 3 why should proverty have anything to do with casino ownership. if your poor and the USA government wants to help that should be independent of gambling
Some might say it's been part of some tribes' cultural background since, well, time immemorial?