Best Shot Placement for Deer. How to Hunt Deer Ep. 12

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 88

  • @DustinApple
    @DustinApple 11 місяців тому +4

    with 30yrs experience, I approve this message.
    Shoot for an EXIT. Aim SMALL. Situational AWARENESS !

  • @chriskourlos4407
    @chriskourlos4407 11 місяців тому +2

    Great job! Basic info to definately put wisdom in the hearts of young hunters that are prone to buck fever cuz nobody showed such clear how to basics! A++.❤😂🎉

  • @matthewghardy
    @matthewghardy 10 місяців тому +20

    This might be the best shot placement video on UA-cam. Too many others use a lot of hand waving and flat drawings. This model was extremely helpful in visualizing the steep angles involved.

  • @chubsteriffic
    @chubsteriffic 11 місяців тому +2

    Good stuff. As an archer I have always accounted for the deer jumping the string…and shying away from the shoulder blade. Broadside…an inch or two about the elbow really does give you the best of all worlds…if you don’t catch the back of the heart..you will definitely double kung the animal. On a 30-40 yard…when the animal has time to seriously jump the string you are not into the shoulder blade. IMHO. :)

  • @untilvalhalla7854
    @untilvalhalla7854 9 місяців тому

    I learned the hard way about hitting the spinal process. It happened just like you said.

  • @joshtrauger3088
    @joshtrauger3088 11 місяців тому +50

    All in all pretty good. But these videos really should show the difference when the leg is forward or back. Every vid shows if the deer is standing with the leg in a neutral position, but never explain that to new hunters.

    • @loganmaddocks4703
      @loganmaddocks4703 11 місяців тому +3

      Not talking smack or anything but even as a new hunter if you can't tell the difference between a leg back and leg forward shot maybe it isn't time to nock and arrow until you do... however, I agree with your point!

    • @joshtrauger3088
      @joshtrauger3088 11 місяців тому +4

      Have you seen some of the warning labels these people need put on things? They definitely need this explained to them. 🤣

    • @johnstruewing1164
      @johnstruewing1164 11 місяців тому +7

      They also don’t mention that in a quartering away shot to shoot for the opposite shoulder. If the angle is too great, you may want to pass

    • @loganmaddocks4703
      @loganmaddocks4703 11 місяців тому +2

      @@johnstruewing1164 great way to assess that shot, I will be putting that in my repertoire. 👍

    • @TierNoneOperator
      @TierNoneOperator 11 місяців тому +3

      Shoot adult arrows and the aim is the same.
      Edit: To clarify I'm refering to leg forward vs centered vs back. Quartering shots still need proper accommodations.

  • @johnstruewing1164
    @johnstruewing1164 11 місяців тому +2

    So many people talk about how great the high shoulder shot is. They don’t understand that a high shoulder shot is a spine shot and that is why their deer drops immediately. If they would look at your visual aid and see how far up the shoulder blade goes and then realize that the spine dips down drastically and continues in the neck. I don’t want bone or blood shot meat. That’s why I will always speak out for double lung shots, whether or not you also hit heart. A double lung shot animal just will not get away and seldom goes more than 50 yds. Last year, an article critical of the 6.5Creedmore, said that the buck they double lunged ran off and they never found it. The caliber wasn’t the problem. Because of scarce ammunition availability, they bought some target loads. You must pay attention particularly if you are a new hunter.

  • @jugheadjones5458
    @jugheadjones5458 11 місяців тому

    This is very good. I sent this to 2 new hunters I’ll be hunting with this year.

  • @CaptainMiles
    @CaptainMiles 11 місяців тому

    Very informative, great video.

  • @Teejrocks83
    @Teejrocks83 11 місяців тому

    Excellent tutorial!

  • @tooldiebum
    @tooldiebum 11 місяців тому

    Great video explains all good points ✌️

  • @joemisak7925
    @joemisak7925 11 місяців тому

    Very good illustration.. I learned something after 40 years of hunting.
    Question.. how many inches square are we talking about ? Thank you

  • @dannywilson8021
    @dannywilson8021 27 днів тому

    awesome Video Thanks for the Tips a lot of People don't know this

  • @BlueWaterSTAX
    @BlueWaterSTAX 9 місяців тому

    Great information

  • @JonathanClemente-s5l
    @JonathanClemente-s5l 11 місяців тому +2

    The information delivered in the video was outstanding. The background music in my opinion what's the complete opposite of outstanding. Very distracting in my opinion unnecessary.

  • @steventhompson8189
    @steventhompson8189 11 місяців тому

    Very good advice

  • @blakeduncan2930
    @blakeduncan2930 11 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @cooterbrown1703
    @cooterbrown1703 11 місяців тому

    Good stuff. Thanks

  • @MrLibertyHugger
    @MrLibertyHugger 11 місяців тому +3

    Good video. It would have been a great video without the music though…

  • @nickhorton785
    @nickhorton785 11 місяців тому

    Excellent😀

  • @tatoo190
    @tatoo190 11 місяців тому +1

    Vital V, baby

  • @cody0010
    @cody0010 11 місяців тому +1

    I shot a deer this morning. The shot was high but I think it was below the spine. I could see the arrow stuck in it when it ran, but it was in pretty deep. It ran hard about 40 yards then it just stopped. It stood there for probably 15-20 minutes. I noticed it was sort of swaying. It finally took off again another 30-40 yards and stopped again. Then it stood there for 20+ minutes and the ran off and I lost sight of it. I could not find the arrow but I went to where it first stopped at and there was a small puddle of blood but not too much for how long it stood there. The shot was just high but not forward or back. Just seeing if anyone had an idea about what type of hit it was and if I have a chance of finding it.

    • @Hammerback0
      @Hammerback0 11 місяців тому

      Ive answered some of ur questions twice, yt wont post my comments. I even linked a great shot placement video here but nothing appears.

    • @cody0010
      @cody0010 11 місяців тому

      @@Hammerback0 I never did find it. I think it may have just got stuck in the shoulder and he just survived it. I never did see any buzzards or anything so hoping he made it anyway. Thanks for trying to reply.

    • @sumtingwong4997
      @sumtingwong4997 11 місяців тому

      You just described my worst fear. So far, I've been fortunate to get good shot placement and put them down fairly quickly. I fear an injured deer the most. Hope you see him again someday.

  • @snapcrack55
    @snapcrack55 11 місяців тому

    John Dudley needs to rewatch this video.

  • @FTB_WVU
    @FTB_WVU 11 місяців тому +1

    3:31 Awesome vid and thank you but I have shot a deer through the “ no zone “ above the lungs below the spine in 2015 and harvested the deer in 2016 and got to see the healings first hand and maybe he was completely exhaled and I’m unlucky but I assure you he was hit there and no lung trauma

    • @snapcrack55
      @snapcrack55 11 місяців тому

      The "void" does not exist. Period.
      SOMETIMES weird things can happen and an animal could survive a double lung. Super rare, but it could happen, the void does not.

  • @Mooseracks
    @Mooseracks 6 місяців тому

    Google is so wonderful with their censorship algorithms...they've written one just for me😅😅

  • @mikeellis9919
    @mikeellis9919 11 місяців тому

    You cover angles I've wondered about and I appreciate that very much. But where is the shot when that trophy buck is facing you head on? Is there an aim point in the chest that is lethal? Thanks for this vid.

  • @John-z8g9z
    @John-z8g9z 11 місяців тому +1

    Step 1 go where the Deer are.
    Step 2 select a Deer 🦌
    Step 3 shoot the Deer 🦌
    Step 4 Enjoy yourself for the entire hunt! 😂 ❤

  • @edwarddonahey
    @edwarddonahey 20 днів тому

    @meateater your recent deer shot placement video was full of terrible reasoning for shot placement. 35 years of archery hunting and this video is exactly what people like Fred Bear advocated as well as every credible person before or after him. Ranch Fairy has a plethora of critical analysis of shot placement.
    There are only ethical standards and then there are unethical standards/practices!

  • @cade8986
    @cade8986 11 місяців тому +1

    The music was mighty unnecessary. Hunters should have a good enough attention span not to need the corporate music.

  • @tonyviers-de9qi
    @tonyviers-de9qi 11 місяців тому +1

    You’re 3” too far forward. Aim for backside of heart. Ideally.

    • @jonathansnyder8686
      @jonathansnyder8686 11 місяців тому +2

      Why aim for the edge of the heart when you can aim for the center?

    • @tonyviers-de9qi
      @tonyviers-de9qi 11 місяців тому

      @@jonathansnyder8686 with a bow. Double lung shot. Dont have to worry about scapula. It would be the center of the optimal “kill zone” with a heart also being cut if you hit your spot . If you miss your spot 2” right you are dead center heart. If you miss 2 left you are still good double lung. If you aim where video shows and miss 2” right you will hit bone. Its a good shot if you hit where you aim( the best spot for sure) . I just think its better to play yhe higher percentage. Hunting for the past 35 years has taught me that a lot of things happen in that moment to make you miss your mark.

    • @johnstruewing1164
      @johnstruewing1164 11 місяців тому +2

      The heart is immaterial if you hit both lungs. With a big hole through the lungs, the heart will pump blood out faster for a couple of minutes until it stops

    • @snapcrack55
      @snapcrack55 11 місяців тому

      What most hunters don't realize is the back 1/3 of the lungs taper towards the back as the round stomach fills in that space. The stomach is almost touching the back side of the heart, barely separated by the diaphragm and a little lung.

  • @justice1327
    @justice1327 11 місяців тому +7

    Stop it with the music

  • @danjley
    @danjley 11 місяців тому +20

    Best thing about this video (and I’ve watched it several times over the last few years, as it’s been reposted) is the use of the anatomical model at different angles, providing visibility to, and importance of, being mindful about exit wound location.
    For me, that has it permanently ingrained into my memory and pre-shot thinking process-to “aim for the exit wound.” As shown in the video, that’s the difference between double- and only single-lung, or simply stated, between an almost guaranteed quick ethical kill, and a potentially never recovered deer.
    I have both of my sons watch this one religiously before ever allowing them to step foot into the woods during season, and I really believe it ups their odds of success dramatically.

    • @markwest8960
      @markwest8960 11 місяців тому +1

      New to hunting as of next week and this is the best video I've seen about arrow aim/placement.

    • @SiakuluShaka
      @SiakuluShaka Місяць тому

      I’ve been hunting for some time but with a rifle, and for the last 5 years I picked up a bow and for the first 3 I was not comfortable harvesting an animal 😅 and even last year I still wasn’t but almost! This year however I feel much more comfortable. I have also rewatched this many times to understand deer anatomy better and every sit I went out on I would visualize it on an animal. Super helpful!

  • @peternelson7545
    @peternelson7545 10 місяців тому +8

    Super useful video for a new deer hunter such as myself. I've seen images before of the aiming point for different shots but the use of a model to show angles and anatomy is exactly what I've been searching for

  • @graysquirreltreeservice7299
    @graysquirreltreeservice7299 11 місяців тому +7

    Fabulous stuff every new hunter should watch this 10 times 😊

  • @ieatcaribou7852
    @ieatcaribou7852 11 місяців тому +8

    This was an excellent video. I'm sure this will help some hunters out there this season, it'll definitely help me.

  • @ChrisHardwickanimaladventures
    @ChrisHardwickanimaladventures 11 місяців тому +2

    I like to eat the heart, I'd rather do a head shot with a rifle or double lung shot with a bow.

  • @08CC01
    @08CC01 11 місяців тому +4

    I like the one about the steep angle shot. I never realized I should shoot that high up. I’ll try it out if I get the opportunity. Good video.

  • @scooterb8470
    @scooterb8470 11 місяців тому +1

    Ughhhh.....deer "jump the string." They don't *hear* the arrow coming.

  • @tylerritchie6259
    @tylerritchie6259 2 місяці тому +2

    The ranch fairy would love this!

  • @shirees
    @shirees 11 місяців тому +1

    Yes this is the PERFECT video for beginners and ppl who do not really know how to shoot a deer and it helps with the upcoming youth season deer hunting

  • @williamgaines9784
    @williamgaines9784 11 місяців тому +2

    If you'll notice on your model in the "quartering away" example, that right shoulder bone is visible. If one aligns vertically with that off shoulder the arrow, or bullet, will transit both lungs possibly getting the heart as well. If the arrow hits the opposite humerus or scapula, it has already cut its way through both lungs. In "resting" the aim point on a spot, vertical alignment first, then horizontal. Some come up from ground and some go down from above to get their aim, but the key is to align with where the bullet/arrow should come out(deflection is not a calculation to be concerned with).
    Your 101 series has been very good so far.

    • @rosshill2565
      @rosshill2565 11 місяців тому

      Yes, always aim to put the bullet or arrow through the opposite shoulder where you would hit it if shooting from opposite side broad side. Or with rifle you can aim to shoot through opposite shoulder area. It drops bucks fast.

  • @austin.aesthetics
    @austin.aesthetics Місяць тому +1

    Most helpful video over ever watched on shot placement

  • @med1pilot1956
    @med1pilot1956 2 дні тому

    Excellent information. All the shot placements with the anatomical model are great. I didn't see anything related to quartering towards though

  • @terinamike
    @terinamike 10 місяців тому +1

    Probably one of the best shot placement videos that I have seen. Good job I am subscribing.

    • @DeerAssociation
      @DeerAssociation  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching... and subscribing!

  • @roguerader
    @roguerader 10 місяців тому

    Many people talk about deer hunting, but it seems to me that Kip really knows his business and is able to explain it, and above all, he doesnt need to read a script like all the other NDA presenters, it is embarrasing when they do.

  • @stevenmiller7964
    @stevenmiller7964 11 місяців тому

    Great video except you should explain to all that it is important that the leg is in a straight or forward position on the shot at any broadside deer. If the leg is back, the leg bones block your shot explanation.

  • @turtleman5111
    @turtleman5111 11 місяців тому

    Arrows do some WIERD things, even if you hit or miss the deer, bullets not so much.

  • @santarsbuilders7905
    @santarsbuilders7905 11 місяців тому

    👍👍

  • @thomascoffman2262
    @thomascoffman2262 11 місяців тому

    If that animal drops you’ll hit spine though. Better make it the bottom 1/3.

    • @philbrown9774
      @philbrown9774 11 місяців тому +1

      This is addressed in the last half of the video

  • @tbi1161
    @tbi1161 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video!

  • @Nick-sz6xb
    @Nick-sz6xb 11 місяців тому

    But the heart is my favorite part 😢

  • @davegenco5589
    @davegenco5589 11 місяців тому

    Great tutorial

  • @Dustin-yc4lx
    @Dustin-yc4lx 10 місяців тому

    There not ducking it there going down so they can run

    • @williamcrowder2226
      @williamcrowder2226 9 місяців тому

      They are ducking though. Maybe not to kung foo dodge the arrow but they are ducking.

  • @scott9478
    @scott9478 11 місяців тому +1

    Very good informative video

  • @loganmaddocks4703
    @loganmaddocks4703 11 місяців тому +1

    Remember everyone, that crosshair he illustrated is great knowledge to have, but I aim a little lower than he indicates because the deer CAN jump the string.
    There are many excellent videos about how a deer actually "jumps" the string and the correlation between their head being upright versus down feeding. When it is down they are able to pivot their front shoulders down and catapault themselves off their back legs. Thats where the "duck" or "jumping" the string comes from. They dip theire front hald and spring if their back legs.
    When their head is up, there kuch pess gravity helping them with that komentum shift, so they have to use more muscles to do so, and they dont dip nearly as much.

    • @hpfuhl
      @hpfuhl 11 місяців тому +2

      It also comes down to how alert a deer is at the time of release. A deer may lose concentration and not do anything or maybe alert and feeding. I've found body language is the key and what they do coming towards your stand or site. Deer who look at the stand before approaching are incredibly likely to be actively listening to any abnormal sounds. Further deer that have gone to full alert they react to squirrels or birds jumping around in brush. Any sudden sound will cause them to look. Those are the deer I've found most likely to react to string sounds.

  • @Howardhandupme
    @Howardhandupme 11 місяців тому

    I like the neck with a bow. 2 inch cut thru that area, it'll be a fountain of red.

  • @woodsmanfarms9678
    @woodsmanfarms9678 23 дні тому

    Where you said to aim makes it so you hit both legs not only ruining meat but also meat clogs holes and makes for a shitty blood trail. What bad advice……

  • @Bobbobbobbob707
    @Bobbobbobbob707 11 місяців тому

    Big chunk of meat in the way of that shot