I removed any reference to the controversy surrounding Depp from the video, just so folks know. I don't like editing things without being transparent about it. At this point leaving it in will just distract from the video, with people arguing with outdated comments made in 2017, and I'd rather people actually talk about the movie instead.
Now you want people to talk only about the movie, but you had no problem following unproven accusations back then. Now that it is proven that Amber Heard was the actual abuser, which means you directly contributed to an innocent man having his reputation ruined, you want the dust to settle and everyone to shut up.
you did not point out that Barbosa had an apple up his sleeve when he falls over dead. HE WAS GOING TO EAT IT WHEN HE FINALLY GOT HIS TASTE BUDS BACK!!!!! poor guy.
@My Multifandom Ass That’s the point, and don’t ask why, it’s truly beautiful, you may not understand the true beauty and high iq you need in order to understand shark tale, Shark Tale is the prequel to popular TV series House, which takes place in dystopia Japan. The movie follows the story of a young teenage boy (Flynn Rider) who is competing in a NASCAR demolition derby to win the pot money, so he and his slave mother can flee the planet Tatooine and join the fight against the evil Helghast. With famous writers such as Erwin Rommel, (writer of the Notebook) and Joe Biden (co-producer of the Ellen Show) the story of Shark Tale is beautifully woven into existence for the audience to truly feel apart of the grand, and epic conclusion of the series. Further more, the movie is complemented by the brilliant music composer Mr. Kesuke Miyagi who is best known for his DVD commentary of famous children novel, Moby Dick (1851) The problem is simply that you will never understand this great and beautiful movie, for your iq is not large enough to understand the true beauty that is shark tale
He also missed the connection of the beginning scene to the older Elizabeth transition. Older Elizabeth was waking up from a dream, (Disney...duh) we were inside her dream, it was real events. But it’s the dream itself that prompts her to remember and put on the medallion.
This film had a lot of stuff going for it; it deserves the praise that it earned. However, I was a teenager when this movie came out and I knew a lot of people who were really excited to see it because Legolas was in the movie. I think it is a fair thing to say that some of the pre-release hype came from having one of the Lord of the Rings actors in it in a prominent role.
@@niraisatsana it's honestly admirable of Gore Ver-bin-ski to bring them back for pirates 3, especially considering their only other appearance vase in the first.
I always thought the reason that Elizabeth gave “Turner” as her surname was so that she might trick the pirates and hide the fact that she was the governor’s daughter to avoid being held for ransom or kept captive for whatever reason.
The screams when they get "hurt" might be out of frustration rather than actual pain, or even put of habit seeing as they lived most of their lives feeling pain
The joke about Norrington holding the compass because he wants Jack actually tracks. Norrington wants to capture and kill all pirates so for this moment the compass points to what he wants.
"Barbossa is best girl" I lost it laughing at that. Jokes aside I got really invested in this video, it's great picking up on small details I never thought about before and you're clearly passionate. I would totally be down for more videos in this style.
In the lore, mermaids are predatory and usually don’t actually kiss the sailors, however the kiss of a mermaid allows you to breathe underwater. At the end of stranger tides she kissed him instead of murdering him, so they had a happy ever after ending
Yeah I agree, it's just that this guy doesn't like the sequels that's why he was harsh towards them, I agree curse of the black pearl was the best but the sequels are good too just not as much
Would like to note that Barbosa mentions that he’s been starving without dying, I believe they still feel pain. Although Barbosa is just so badass he doesn’t flinch.
Even if they don't feel pain I might think being stabbed would cause you to cry out, even if one doesn't feel pain. Though they have had 10 years to get used to not feeling pain ( if that's the case). I'm saying the brains reaction is still "being stabbed is bad."
I also think that they dont feel pain, but still feel, and i can imagine feeling a blade go through your stomach is 1: very unpleasing, and 2: sends a reflex to your brain making you think it hurt. If they hadd no feeling at all, it would be somewhat hard to function since you really dont know how tightly to grip something e.g. (fair argument also used in Pacific Rim for the syncing with the jaeger).
The way I thought of it is they're rotting without dying. No matter how much they eat their stomach is dead. Their bladder is dead. Their body is rotting so they're clearly in constant pain, along with hunger and thirst, but their skin is dead so they can't feel what they touch.
I believe they feel pain. Besides Barbosa not reacting to the stab (badass), every other cursed pirate reacted to being cut, stabbed, or burned. I believe Barbosa was referring to not being able to feel the good things that help you enjoy life. Food, drink and pleasurable company.
The fact you made a 53 minute video about a single film is honestly impressive on its own. But the fact you made a 53 minute video about a single film that was also entertaining, informative and just all round great is crazy. Not a single minute of this was boring. At no point did I want to skip forward and in some instances I even replayed parts a few times because I found them that entertaining. Hell of a good video.
I think instead of "lying + cheating = cool" the moral is that strict adherence to a code is pointless, whether it be the Pirate's code or the letter of the law. Doing the right thing sometimes means breaking the rules.
jmcrofts These pirates were so afraid of getting caught by the government that they made their own government! They must not be true pirates. To my knowledge, that's a reference.
Fun fact. Hans Zimmer didn't actually do the score for Pirates 1. He did the scores for Pirates 2 and 3. Klaus Badelt did the score for Curse of the Black Pearl.
Zimmer actually did the score, but he was working on another project, so he wasn't allowed to do this one. So he did it in one night and gave it to Badelt, so he could take credit.
Nobody: '...' UA-cam Recommendations: 'Here's a 2 year old, 53 minute long video from a channel you've never heard of before and it's about a movie everyone has seen.'
And I watched the whole damned thing, and still felt like I should pirate and watch the movie. Doesn't matter if it takes 10 years and 23 movies, This movie is dead on point on how a movie should be made, and it only took 1.
I've always interpreted the curse as; you're immortal, but you derive no pleasure from it, only pain. Otherwise things like starvation and thirst wouldn't bother them. So they actually feel the pain of being stabbed, Barbossa is just more disciplined than his crew.
@@kennedyshotfirst2534 It's not entirely inconsistent. There's a scene where Ragetti is screaming and Pintel reminds him that he can't feel pain and he stops screaming. It's possible that they react to pain because they're used and physiologically conditioned to react to pain, and Barbossa and the smarter/more disciplined members of the crew just like... got over it.
You forgot the part where Barbosa was tantalized by watching Elizabeth eat. He was imagining him enjoying food and feeling famished when observing Elizabeth eating. He was also anxious to get back to normal. Pretty cool stuff.
I think it's heavily implied that the Pirates can't feel satisfaction or fulfillment. As Barbarossa clearly states he feels like he can't slake desire no matter how much 'pleasurable company' there is and he can't feel the warmth of a woman's flesh, he's dying of starvation and thirst but can't die, so the Curse appears to only remove the positive feelings or satisfaction of things. He doesn't ever say he doesn't feel pain, he just can't feel or enjoy the things he could before being cursed. It also wouldn't make much sense for the curse to remove the feeling of pain since the Curse is specifically intended to cause suffering.
Even that explanation is inconsistent though, seeing as Barbossa doesn’t react to getting stabbed, like, twice. I think the writers either forgot about it at times or some scenes wouldn’t work as well if the pirates just ignored the pain they should hypothetically feel. Best example of this is probably when Elizabeth pours the burning coal over Pintel and Ragetti. It would be really weird since the curse hadn’t been properly established yet.
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@@HazelOrbius maybe it vase just memory, but hey it made this video funny.
@@HazelOrbius my best guess is that barbossa just ignores the pain. The sole purpose of pain is to compel one to get away from something dangerous to health. But since he can't die, he can just dismiss it. And hey, as the leader of his crew, he would likely be wiser and know that the pain is no big deal and has psychologically become accustomed to it. It can also explain why he doesn't react in agony of being shot in the end, as he dismissed pain for so long he no longer associated it with bad things, even when it finally became bad once more.
I think it's more about unconsciously reacting to sudden events as expected (nobody says the curse removes muscle memory; in fact muscle/nerve memory is pretty crucial to their moving about), as well as phantom feelings (same thing, different words). The part where Ragetti gets glowing ashes in his hair is pretty open about this: Pintel has to remind him that he *can't actually feel it* (although that line was cut from this video), he just expects to get burned. This happens to all the lower status, less intelligent pirates. It doesn't happen to Barbossa who is (at least compared to his crewmembers) quite intelligent and is thus able to control his reaction to being stabbed, and he even makes a point out of not feeling it to Elizabeth. And Sparrow is obviously on Barbossa's level, hence he's equally able to control his reaction (although his genuine fascination seeps through eventually). I don't, however, think Krosecz was unable to realize this to begin with. I assume he simply decided to instead use it as an opportunity to make funny, critizising remarks of the low-hanging fruit variety. You know, to entertain us. I think that's fine.
Late...but... "They keep acting like they're hurt!"...think of it as a "full body" version of "phantom limb syndrome". They psychologically remember it SHOULD hurt, so they react in anticipation. My theory anyway. :)
Alternatively, they do feel pain in their "fleshed" forms. Barbossa is just stoic (or badass, if you prefer) to not react to the pain. He does the same thing at the end of the movie, after the curse is lifted and Jack shoots him: He stands stoicly, remarking that he can feel, and that he can feel cold. Also, as I recall, Barbossa doesn't say that he and his men can't feel, just that they can't gain pleasure from their senses, due to the curse.
I always thought Barbarossa meant they can't feel anything, as in 'they cannot experience anything good". They can't experience pleasure, but they can experience pain. So essentially they are in hell.
well one thing you should have learn from this move, is not to trust a pirates words. And also Im on "phantom limb syndrome" i mean being hit may not hurt your emortal body, bot it still hurts you pride as a sword fighter. I sometimes shout out pain words when dying in video games, heck sometimes it really physical hurts losing that diamond picaxe in a pool of lave :P
@@djphoolishroc6816 they dont drown them, they just drag them to the depths and eat them... also realistically if you get dragged down that fast you will die because of the pressure difference, thats why divers take some time when they go diving to stop every few meters and thus their bodies get used to the pressure
@@totallyanexpert5212 Divers don't need to descend slowly as long as we equalize. However we do need to ASCEND slowly or else we'll get decompression sickness. Due to the nature of buoyancy, divers still sink slowly, and sinking quickly wouldn't be an issue unless you mean sinking VERY quickly.
Yay fellow from the past! It's 3am for me. Feel like total piece of shit for going against my own promise to sleep at least before 2am. But still, that video was damn good.
I actually like the beginning scene, it plays up the "fearful" aspect of pirates rather than the romanticised one Also while pirates were cruel i think many of them were more like "mercenaries" or privateers as they were called, you dont last long with no allies
No, many were just evil A profession which the scum of the earth would have been drawn to - those kinds of people have always existed, even to this day, and are drawn towards whatever makes their vile impulses the easiest to obtain The only "allies" were the ones who followed whoever had the biggest dick to swing, some rare bands may have had mutually respectful agreement, but certainly not joining a fight for the other if it was not beneficial to themselves - or help in a fight and stab them in the back right after It was a land of no morals
I think the problem with the opening is not the slight "horror" tone, which I think is probably a really good idea. It's just that, I suspect, the little girl's acting and characterization is a bit weak. It would have been far better, in my opinion, if Elizabeth had been portrayed as secondary to the adults here. This way a little girl, whose value as a forceful character is minuscule at best, could be introduced and portrayed _as a kid,_ and not as a small adult with bad acting. Even her standing there singing was awkward. I like the zoom-in on the ship, but the whole time I'm watching her trying to act, and that's a huge problem for a movie otherwise full of actual actors.
>They keep crying out like they're hurt when they're not. Funny thing: know what I say when my character gets hurt in a video game? I say "ow" or some derivative. The pirates might not feel anything, but they may REMEMBER feeling things and are reacting out of a lifetime of habit.
Makes sense, actually. Kinda like how you can lightly stub your toe on a table and say 'ow!' even if it didn't hurt. It's just...instinctive. You experience something that you know should hurt and you act accordingly, even if it doesn't hurt for some reason. Like how I always feel a bit of panic at the dentist, despite knowing the anesthetic cream they use before the injected anesthetic makes the experience quite tolerable, if a bit uncomfortable when I have to have my head tilted back at an angle I'm not used to.
It dose sota explain his strict posinalty, having to hide your gay in that time period, and factor in how Jack is like everything Norrington never could be. Man the more I think about it the mor canon im calling this XD
I just done re-binge the movies few days ago and finished this video and i actually surprisely agreed with the crack ship😂😂 I found it hilarious how he point out the whole compass point at Jack when Norrinton holding it thing lmao
I think the purpose of Gibbs being in the beginning of the movie is to give Elizabeth a solid reason to trust (or at least, go along with) Jack's crew. Gibbs is a friendly face, and given the fact that she looks to him for clarification about Norrington's joke in the first scene of the film, is likely someone who she knew reasonably well and was comfortable around. It's not a big thing, but giving Elizabeth even one extra person who she trusts goes a long way in explaining why she - who had previously been quite shrewd and cautious around the pirates - lets her guard down a bit around Jack's crew
It's also good world building. People were sometimes press ganged into service at this time, or they joined up simply to leave bad circumstances and then deserted at the first opportunity. Or they could just leave when their service was up. But it makes the world feel a bit more lived in to have a guy working for the navy eventually leave and become a pirate because it happened all the time of course.
I think Gibbs is a visual way of foreshadowing to the audience that Will's father could be both a good man and a pirate. Since he actually starts off the movie as a Navy Sailor (similar to what Will thinks his Dad was) and when we see him again as a pirate, it's with Jack (who revealed the truth about Bootstrap Bill to Will)
Keira Knightley actually was in Star Wars. She played Padmé's decoy in The Phantom Menace. That fact actually makes the "Wait wasn't she in Star Wars?" joke even funnier.
"The last movie that people actually watched that prominently featured pirates? Muppet Treasure Island and Cutthroat Island".....HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT HOOK????
Fun fact: Jack getting mad and almost killing Elizabeth after she burns all the rum is kind of understandable when you get the wider shot of the island and see absolutely no source of freshwater in sight. She just burned their only source of consumable liquid. Sure it works out in the end, but still.
In context, it's clear that when Barbossa says, "I Feel Nothing," he means that he doesn't feel any PLEASURE or SATISFACTION. He and his crew remain perfectly capable of suffering (they suffer from hunger, thirst, sexual frustration and, at least up to a point, physical pain). Barbossa is the only one of the cursed pirates who responds to physical assaults as though they don't cause him any pain. That has to do with the particular nature of his character, not the nature of the curse.
His feeling cold isn't describing temperature; it's the feeling of his heart. He was shot through the heart and then returned to humanity.... He felt the metaphorical sensation of your blood running cold, because he was bleeding out. He went from a moment of feeling the warmth of life again, to the chill as his blood flowed away and true death took him. You can tell from his hesitation he was taking a moment to process. But he does specifically state earlier in the movie he is suffering; dying of hunger and thirst is excruciating. The constant agony of being completely parched, but unable to get satisfaction even after drinking a barrel of water drives him to violent extremes. If they couldn't suffer, it wouldn't really be a curse; they seemed to enjoy the fact that they can't die and such just fine. They get whatever they want because they don't have to worry about damage. But, because they can feel none of the pleasures of life even as they suffer constant misery of starving, dehydration, no skin sensations, and of course physical pain, it's a living hell. Nothing has value if you can't enjoy it... I mean, Barbossa is more the exception than the rule, really. All the other cursed pirates react like they would normally for most things; the coals stung, being run through hurts, their limbs come off if you slice them.. the difference is, it doesn't affect them more than a moment. A major factor is, they can burn and bleed like the living when hidden from the moonlight. Jack cutting himself for the ritual and shooting Barbossa relied on this; their flesh is REAL when hidden from moonlight. Otherwise... the whole story would be pointless, as ending the curse would be impossible.
Feeling cold is the *literal* sensation of bleeding out and/or dying in any number of ways, the line is referring to a well established trope as such. I think it's a stretch of interpretation at best to suggest that Barbossa's final words were that abstract. I think he meant it in the most simple, natural, and human way possible, expressing the mortality and vulnerability that so suddenly came to him. The first thing he gets to feel, physically, is dying, and it's all he has to speak from.
I think her "bad action line" was put there on purpose. Elizabeth has now been introduced into the world of adventure and since she is a "pirate nerd" I think she probably wanted to say that kind of thing at some point. I mean, how many of us wouldn't like to say a cheesy line at the perfect moment given the chance?
the pirates screaming in "pain" is probably something like the placebo effect. They know they've been stabbed or hit and their mind tells them to scream before they realize that there is no reason to scream because they feel no pain.
130shooter1 I do this when I do something that should hurt but ends up not hurting... so... uh... Though, I just assumed they could only feel pain. Seems fitting of a curse, and perhaps Barbosa shows no pain and uses that to his advantage. Intimidation tactic.
They are still human with a human mind so they would still feel a cirtain level of shock or yes the placebo effect. Just because they are imortal doesnt disconect them from who they were and still are. Barbosa has changed who he is and in a way accepted his condition and made it a strengh to achive his goal of being mortal again.
the compass probably pointed to jack because he wanted to arrest jack, implying he values his career above anything else, which makes perfect sense for him
I know this video is kinda old but I always figured Elizabeth used Will’s last name because she thinks they raided port Royal for a ransom for the governors daughter so she doesn’t use her own name.
She said that she recognized the Black Pearl from 8 years ago when crossing from England. She also associated it with Will Turner who she thought was a pirate. So they were obviously after the coin which is why she threatened to throw it into the sea.
+Beppe Thread-Necromancy, but the joke reappears later in the movie. When Jack attempts to obscure Will's identity after the *Interceptor* is destroyed, Jack lists 'lovely singing voice though', implying him to be castrato singer.
Stil nok a dick joke and kind the hole point is that the crew of the Black Pearl is so far from dead as you can be, only in moonlight do they look the part.
At 29:22 my thoughts on the matter of Norington are that he was desiring to arrest Jack, who's been extremely elusive for the Navy. So it makes sense in that context that the compass was showing him where Jack was.
Also shows more character arch for Norrington. "His desire to arrest Jack" because "he's been extremely elusive for the Navy", then Jack tries to bait him into going after Black Pearl. Then Norrington says, "By remembering I serve others, and not just myself." Whereas he was all-in on arresting and hanging Jack for the glory.
Sigh. You are being deceived. The Potc universe is yet again another twisted gospel version of the Bible where Beckett represents Jesus and is painted out to be the bad guy when he really isn't, and Jack, Pintel, Hector, Will, Elizabeth are the satanic rebellion in which you the audience are unknowingly supporting by siding against Beckett. Disney is satanic, it's time you all wake up. Look at the logo for the Endeavours flag, look at the death position of Beckett when he dies. Listen to the beginning of Potc 3 when they call Lord Beckett. Notice how the East Indian Trading Company is the ones who enforce the law, sounds similar to Jesus does it not? The East Indian Trading Company are the good guys, the Black Pearl and it's allies are the real bad guys. Even pay attention to when Tia Dalma says "Not of death, but punishment, the worst thing one can bring upon himself, stretching on forever, that's what awaits in Davy Jones locker" Fellas, she's literally describing Hell and they head straight into it in the glacier valley, notice the dark passage way. When they go past it they immediately are in darkness, in which a waterfall is the direction they are heading. The waterfall represents the fall into Hell, and yet Barbossa menacingly laughs while they are descending into it. The whole concept of Davy Jones locker is that Hell is this place of nothing where you go crazy, and can actually be saved by your fellow rebels. That's not biblical at all, wake up people! This is Satan's viewpoint on the war
I guess you can't entirely blame Stephan for trying to take the safe route but it does highlight the problem that in today's society that too often an accusation is taken as fact by the media and run with without doing their due diligence.
@@RandomCarrot2806 To be actually honest, he said "if you're interested, look it up" pretty much. Which I then did and found out about the false claims, so there's no real misinformation. Except for the "doing a Johnny Depp" line.
Jack almost killing Elizabeth over Rum was my most favorite scene in the movie 🤣🤣🤣 Also I'd like to point out about Barbossa'a death the detail that he was holding an apple in his hand (most likely throughout the entire final fight scene) because he was waiting eagerly for the moment he'd be cured of the curse as a reminder from earlier when he cut Elizabeth's hand (attempting to cure himself) he said "You know what I'm going to do once I'm free of this curse?! *looks at Elizabeth sympathetically* Eat a whole bushel of apples..." Barbossa the ruthless captain of The Black Pearl could have said *anything* within his possibly endless list of desires but he wants to enjoy the little thing he hasn't been able to for ten long years. Apples. I take that as a couple lessons to heart that everyone could learn from: 1: Enjoy the little things & 2: Enjoy life while you have it
11:07 The mermaid (serina) didn’t drown the priest, remember what one of the pirates said in during the movie was “A mermaids kiss helps you breath underwater”...
@@ghost_craftinganimates813 if you can breathe underwater you can dive up to 700m deep without dying. The reason why divers don't dive that deep is because the air they have to breathe gets toxic at certain depths, and the people who set the record weren't underwater, but in a pressure chamber and their decompression phase took over 20 days
I really enjoyed this extensive and in-depth breakdown on why CotBP succeeds as a movie. Since you're clearly passionate about it and the franchise, I would enjoy seeing a continuation of this at some point for you to breakdown how and why the sequels went wrong.
The second and third movies were both better than the first. The first one is nothing more than a movie that you can watch and enjoy but the second and third had more interesting events as well as deeper meanings that takes a mind that's open to the new and innovative ideas to truly appreciate.
I’ve always interpreted Barbosa’s line of “I feel nothing“ to mean that they can only feel pain and no pleasure because of the explanation of how they’re constantly starving and thirsting to death but can’t die and that’s always been my head cannon as to why when the crew gets stabbed, they cry out in pain, and Barbosa’s non-reaction is to show he’s so personally so used to the pain/ an attempt at intimidation.
As someone else in the comment section noted, that doesn't really work with Barbossa's dying line. The whole bittersweet and almost sad note of "I feel ... cold" comes from him going on a quest for 10 years to feel anything, only for his only feeling after the curse of lifted to be the cold grasp of death. The way that line is delivered also heavily implies that feeling *anything* is a whole new thing for him. And it makes sense, too, that as an undead they are completely numb to everything.
If you read the script, this is actually pretty clearly what was intended. The final film just does a bad job of communicating it, it's hard not to take Barbossa's "I feel nothing!" at total face value, making every shout of pain come off like it's a plot-hole
The compass joke was a bit funny but it could be a hidden detail that only be the perceptive can catch. It could point to the fact that the compass is very situational in where it points. Norrington wanted to arrest him and take him out, so the compass was pointing at Jack. Or it was just an oversight.
@@h0lstein121 Johnny Depp was accused of abuse by his ex wife and his career went to shit. Only for it come out that he was the one being abused, and theres some pretty gruesome pictures from some of his injuries
This has been my favorite movie since it came out when I was 10 years old, and my preteen-teenage self was more than a little obsessed. I'm sure I've seen it a hundred times (literally), yet you pointed out things I had never noticed (all those parallels!). What makes me really happy though- you articulately justified my adoration for a film that I far too frequently apologized for praising. Pirates of the Caribbean isn't just a silly Disney film. This movie is a really brilliant piece of film making, and if anyone tries to tell me otherwise, I've gonna strap their bootstraps to a cannon and force them to watch this.
Nope, credit should be shared. Hans wrote the themes and sent them to Klaus to orchestrate. Hans was working on another project so physically and contractually couldn’t compose the complete score. Two great composers is better than one, hence the quality of this soundtrack!
When I was a little kid me and my friends would always say "Ello Poppet" when we'd find someone during a game of hide and seek😂 I completely forgot about that lol.
@Maria Isabelle Villacorte Ohhhh man that sounds awesome but they totally already thought I was a freak by the time I did that. It only got worse after that. I was the social outcast the whole time I went to that school but I got a top grade education despite the mental torment that my peers subjected me to! :D
asleep: will and elizabeth are in love eyes open: will and jack sparrow have unspoken feelings for each other wide awake: captain norrington feels an unexplainable spark for jack, a fondness for him and an appreciation for the excitement and variety he briefly brings to his life that extends past the simple relationship between hunter and prey, and this fondness haunts him, lingers in him unexplained and unaddressed, until the end of his days
@Cringy Wamen yo it's a joke, chill out. there's nothing explicit about my comment. i wouldn't have said anything if he hadn't brought it up in the video. you're the one who made it weird.
20:33. While the reason she uses Turner could be the crush idea, I always thought it was because of the maid and her previous "They've come to kidnap you." "You're the Governor's daughter." So she fumbles for a common surname that isn't her own and picks Turner because it's the first name that pops into her head, as she has a crush on him, and he is a common person. And it all fits together so beautifully and this film is awesome!
nah I think it has more to do with the fact that she knows what they are after now which is the gold chain which belonged to Will Turner which means the crew knew Will's dad but obviously did not know he had a son or a child for that matter so she pretended to be that child thinking it will help save Will and her life and make them leave the port city, but she later realizes that since he pretended to be a Turner they now needed her/blood and weren't going to treat her favorary for being a crewmate's daughter....you've got to remember that Elizabeth knows a lot about pirates and pirate code but sort of fantasies what they truly are so she thought saying she was elizabeth turner will save her/gain their trust since she's one of their own but learnt it actually helped them out in finding someone with Turner's blood which they need.
It's actually a point the writers made in the feature commentary. She didn't use her name because yes, she is the governor's daughter but they did mention the school girl thing about trying out your crush's name with your own.
I wouldn't say Jack was a supporting character in the first movie. He was more like a secondary protagonist to Will and Elizabeth's primary. He drove the plot forward pretty much the same amount as they did and actually had a personal beef with the main antagonist. That said, you're right, the sequels messed up by making him not only the primary protagonist, but eventually the ONLY protagonist with a bunch of bland supporting characters. Speaking of which, I do love Norrington's character in the first movie. He's the secondary antagonist, but unlike most examples (Joker from Suicide Squad) he actually has something to do with what's going on and despite being an antagonist he is still treated as a well-intentioned guy despite how little focus is drawn to him.
Similarly can be seen in Mad Max: Fury Road where Mad Max is certainly the hero of the story but not necessarily the protagonist, as the focus is on Furiosa going through a journey that results in a change. Same thing in Gatsby where Toby Maguire's character is the POV. So, Sparrow is definitely the hero, and possibly the most important figure in the film. But he certainly isn't the POV character as he isn't ordinary; thus, unrelatable to ordinary viewers.
i think u have it backwards, in the first movie the main plot is about jack getting the pearl back so he was actualy the main hero , the sequels actualy made him a comedic deuteragonist
I think Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End perfectly gave Jack Sparrow prominence. The revelation that he made a deal with Davy Jones adds a heavy layer of explanation to why everyone seems to know who Jack is. This dude’s mind is so set on weaseling his way out of any conflict that comes his way he’d strike a deal with Davy Jones just for the sake of getting his ship back.
His problem-solving strategy is to just get a solution to the present problem even if that solution gives him a bigger problem later bc he'll just deal with the bigger problem later and it spiraled out of control until he ends up in davy Jones locker lmao
@@allPodd plus the character of Captain Jack didn't really change much in the 1st movie But he did have motivations and personality whereas in the 2nd movie he realised he couldn't control this issue, it was his fate to go back to the Pearl and even though he didnt intend to stay behind he went down in style like a true Captain would with his ship, the only thing he could control wasnt his fate BUT his actions, hence why he returned to the Pearl to save the crew/
I read online recently that while Elizabeth and Will both become pirates over the course of this movie, they adopt different styles. Will becomes a pirate in the vein of Jack, while Elizabeth becomes a pirate like Barbossa. Would love to see your take on this!!
29:07 Well, maybe it's pointing at Jack because at the moment Jack is effectively Norrington's prize. He is an infamous pirate Norrington will put away, and use to further climb up the naval ladder to admiral.
I always kinda thought you had to really focus on the compass knowing what it does to make it work. In the later movies doesn't it stop "working" for Jack because he can't focus or know what he wants?
yeah but then it spins uncontrollably. here it seems to point. But given that norringtons life goal is or was to free the world from piracy I think it's plausible that it points on jack at this point.
I wonder if the whole, "he pretty much became a parody of himself," is actually due to the fact that the writers embraced his character design and wrote him that way. Maybe the genius of Jack Sparrow was due to writing him as a serious character and then having Depp mess it up brilliantly.
That's quite possible, but I personally believe the reason Depp lands all these super eccentric character rolls is from all the time he spent shadowing Hunter S Thompson.
no thats really pretty much impossible. a lot of the things he says are ironic or funny no matter how you present it. the thing with his hat for example. tha movie has lot of humor in it.
100% agree. its 15 years in, why tf depp care about jack character anymore. the writer is the problem especially after the third movie and depp is definitely can act other than drunk bumbling pirate. a parody of himself from a same franchise is not mean that depp becoming worst as an actor. just look at his other work
I have different opinion, much more straight forward and the narrator very very slightly talks about the following issue earlier in the video, which is, The studio exec and producers, they saw what was loved and simply commanded the movie crew to do it again. And as an outcome of THAT writers wrote him in subsequent movies as "Jack sparrow stereotype", they made it formulaic, unimaginative and no character growth. And that's not writer's fault (although it's a question if they could have done any better regardless) but it's studio which never allowed anyone after first movie to do anything independently.
I like how you picked apart all the nifty details of the movie, and I really appreciate how passionate you sounded about it. It's always great to come across people who are genuinely invested in their topic, and I sat through the entire video. Really enjoyed it, love the work you put in here!
I agree! There is so much "pownage" and "refuted" and "destroyed" videos on youtube and they are fun too, but it is refreshing and a lot harder to show from time to time that things are awesome and why they are great
Great video! I always thought Gibbs starting out as a part of the navy and ending up a pirate was just meant to show another example of how a good man could also be a pirate.
although your point is incredibly right and on point at 11:05 she didn't kill him, a mermaids kiss is supposed to make you be able to breath under water this was established while the pirates were used as bait for the mermaids.
They honestly could've portrayed that a bit better I think, unless that was the intention. I saw that movie in theaters and to this day still figured she straight-up drowned him.
While the first “Pirates” movie was absolute lightning in a bottle, can we also acknowledge that so was this video essay??? Even five years later, I’m still watching it periodically because I remember how much it made me love both the movie and video essays. There really hasn’t been the same quality of video essays anywhere else since.
Dude same, I keep coming back to this video because it's so well made and articulated. It's so easy to watch and I haven't forgotten about it since I first saw it like 4 years ago.
Literally trying something to listen to while I’m driving around for work and I was like…. I haven’t listened to the pirates video in a while. Time to do it again.
He shouldn't have anyone's custody and his mony supports human rights abuses trough a "Church", beyond that most things are too private for me to judge.
You ever watch a movie even though you think it’s cheesy and then accidentally watch the whole thing because it turns out to be a masterpiece? That’s this movie for me
@@uaxpavlo they collaborated:) should've added his name too, but then i would also have had to mention ramin djawadi, steve jablonsky and many others. klaus and hans were both producers.
No, Klaus Badelt was not the one who wrote the main melodies, it was Hans Zimmer. Badelt provided the full orchestration of the score. Both of them are to be thanked, but don’t take away credit that Zimmer deserves.
Some of the parts of this video didn't age well, now that we have evidence that Johnny Depp was innocent and the accusations against him were entirely false.
Proven innocent in a court doesn't mean a person is innocent. He has been defending a couple of satanist murderers REALLY hard for a while. He is NOT a good guy in any way.
@@Rpgreat Being proven innocent in a court of law *does* in fact prove that one is innocent. Innocent of the crimes one was accused of. Until proven otherwise. He is innocent. You do not have to be a 'good guy' to be innocent of a crime. You don't know if he's a bad guy or not, you don't personally know him. Neither do I. Until I meet him he is neither a good, nor a bad guy... Though seeing him dress up as Captain Jack and meet children with cancer, as well as donate to several charities, does sway my opinion somewhat. Also, were these 'Satanists' actual murderers, or convicted? And what's wrong with Satanism as an ideology, haven't you ever picked up a copy of Milton's Paradise Lost? If these people were proved to have actually killed someone, and he still defended them, then I agree his actions were flawed and immoral. Which doesn't necessarily cancel out the plethora of 'good' things he did regardless.
If innocent until proven guilty is good enough for the entire Western world to base our legal system on then surely it's good enough to be how to judge the character of our fellow man. Oh never mind, let's throw out the last couple thousand years of development and progress because there are accusations and rumors about a celebrity....... The fucking arrogance and pigheadedness you are putting on display here is beyond words Victor.
Making Norrington and Jack a ship was something I either didn't know I needed, or was something you knew I needed. Either way, I'm pretty damn glad it got sunk into my head.😂
Sigh. You are being deceived. The Potc universe is yet again another twisted gospel version of the Bible where Beckett represents Jesus and is painted out to be the bad guy when he really isn't, and Jack, Pintel, Hector, Will, Elizabeth are the satanic rebellion in which you the audience are unknowingly supporting by siding against Beckett. Disney is satanic, it's time you all wake up. Look at the logo for the Endeavours flag, look at the death position of Beckett when he dies. Listen to the beginning of Potc 3 when they call Lord Beckett. Notice how the East Indian Trading Company is the ones who enforce the law, sounds similar to Jesus does it not? The East Indian Trading Company are the good guys, the Black Pearl and it's allies are the real bad guys. Even pay attention to when Tia Dalma says "Not of death, but punishment, the worst thing one can bring upon himself, stretching on forever, that's what awaits in Davy Jones locker" Fellas, she's literally describing Hell and they head straight into it in the glacier valley, notice the dark passage way. When they go past it they immediately are in darkness, in which a waterfall is the direction they are heading. The waterfall represents the fall into Hell, and yet Barbossa menacingly laughs while they are descending into it. The whole concept of Davy Jones locker is that Hell is this place of nothing where you go crazy, and can actually be saved by your fellow rebels. That's not biblical at all, wake up people! This is Satan's viewpoint on the war
zah fares before april 2017 it wasnt illegal to watch movies on pages that uploaded the movie illegally (in germany). So i dont have many DVDs or BlueRays... but since then it is illegal. So thats the only way for me to watch pirates of the carrebean legally without buying it. (Which doesnt mean, I only watch it that way 😂👍🏻)
Grrr Grrr we can say he’s 20 there and she’s like 12. Yes at the time that’s super weird but when she’s older that’s only a 8 year difference which isn’t that bad
@@zoeywomack6047 well back then combat age was 16, but hes in charge so hes prolly 20 to 22when shes like 12 so 8 to 10 years isnt that big of gap in that time. Yes its weird but the age isnt the weird part ( lol just noticed the lady above me said the same thing but i explained how he was in charge by 20 as hed been in the military awhile at least)
I also think one of the reasons they didn’t take part in... horrendous acts with Elizabeth is because Barbosa said for too long he couldn’t feel the warmth of a women’s chest. So eventually they stopped caring about it
I dunno man, they were pretty keen on doing something to her after recapturing her and before Will showed up on Black Pearl. Gotta remember that rape is less about the pleasure and more about dominating someone to the point of breaking them
I know this is a 2 year old video but at 29:15 when Norrington is holding the compass it’s probably pointing at jack because what he wants most is to arrest/kill Jack
I always share this video, it is my favorite film essay. When I have a bad day I put this on, I will continue to come back. I appreciate your thoughts, your humor, and your your insight! I hope to see more content of your passions grow on your channel!! Also, I am now on thr Norrington/Jack ship train, bless you
It's so werid that this video essay is so important lol it was my gateway drug into more video essays and I still remember my first time watching it. When I get stressed or I have to push thru a lot of work, I put this on in the background. It's crazy
I removed any reference to the controversy surrounding Depp from the video, just so folks know. I don't like editing things without being transparent about it.
At this point leaving it in will just distract from the video, with people arguing with outdated comments made in 2017, and I'd rather people actually talk about the movie instead.
Did you? I still see it around the 7 minute mark
Sorry to say. It is still in there. Please don’t mess with this essay to save that little nitpick.
Glad you did, because that was very unfair of you in the first place. It's nice to see you took the time to re-edit this video.
I came back to watch this for the 80th time I respect your decision keep it up Just saying this is my favorite UA-cam video
Now you want people to talk only about the movie, but you had no problem following unproven accusations back then. Now that it is proven that Amber Heard was the actual abuser, which means you directly contributed to an innocent man having his reputation ruined, you want the dust to settle and everyone to shut up.
'Pirates Of The Carribbean'
*_'Accidentally Genius'_*
Perfect way to describe Jack
You mean *Captain* Jack?
@@polyhymnia701 Sparrow
I swear😂😂
ENTP
That has got to he the greatest description of Jack I have ever seen
I had zero intention to watch this entire thing because its so damn long.
Well here I am, 53 minutes later
Same +1
I did not realize this was 53 minutes long until I read this comment. Some time bending witchery is happening here and I don't like it.
Lol same af
I came to check if the persons voice was annoying or not , ended watching the whole thing 😂
seriously. I clicked, figured I'd get the basic synopsis in 2-minutes, and... well... here I am.
you did not point out that Barbosa had an apple up his sleeve when he falls over dead. HE WAS GOING TO EAT IT WHEN HE FINALLY GOT HIS TASTE BUDS BACK!!!!! poor guy.
@Duce Duce Magoo Rosie, I like this kid!
@My Multifandom Ass
That’s the point, and don’t ask why, it’s truly beautiful, you may not understand the true beauty and high iq you need in order to understand shark tale, Shark Tale is the prequel to popular TV series House, which takes place in dystopia Japan. The movie follows the story of a young teenage boy (Flynn Rider) who is competing in a NASCAR demolition derby to win the pot money, so he and his slave mother can flee the planet Tatooine and join the fight against the evil Helghast.
With famous writers such as Erwin Rommel, (writer of the Notebook) and Joe Biden (co-producer of the Ellen Show) the story of Shark Tale is beautifully woven into existence for the audience to truly feel apart of the grand, and epic conclusion of the series. Further more, the movie is complemented by the brilliant music composer Mr. Kesuke Miyagi who is best known for his DVD commentary of famous children novel, Moby Dick (1851)
The problem is simply that you will never understand this great and beautiful movie, for your iq is not large enough to understand the true beauty that is shark tale
He also missed the connection of the beginning scene to the older Elizabeth transition. Older Elizabeth was waking up from a dream, (Disney...duh) we were inside her dream, it was real events. But it’s the dream itself that prompts her to remember and put on the medallion.
@@slushu_6865 lol you should be a writer. I'd watch the shit out of that movie!!
Attila the killa and I got the 666th like now I’m cursed
Original plot ✔️
Fantastic acting ✔️
Genius screenwriting ✔️
Perfect dialogue ✔️
Incredible choreography ✔️
Phenomenal soundtrack ✔️
Complex characters ✔️
Great special effects ✔️
Balanced tone ✔️
Emotional impact ✔️
Dazzling foreshadowing/callbacks (Chekov's everything) ✔️
Strong females ✔️
Makes you think ✔️
Physical comedy ✔️
Beautiful cinematography ✔️
Brilliant sets, costumes, and props ✔️
Masterpiece of cinema ✔️
Sequels that fail to live up to the original ✔️
Rum gone ✔
Keira Knightley ✔
Sense of propriety ✔
If only Disney could remember this recipe
"PotC did for pirates what LotR did for fantasy"
So basically if you want to make a genre cool, have Orlando Bloom in your movie?
Yesss
Yeah that's about right
lets put him in star wars. it could use a boost apparently.
ahhhh come on. thats just insulting to what a fantastic work of art this film is!
This film had a lot of stuff going for it; it deserves the praise that it earned. However, I was a teenager when this movie came out and I knew a lot of people who were really excited to see it because Legolas was in the movie.
I think it is a fair thing to say that some of the pre-release hype came from having one of the Lord of the Rings actors in it in a prominent role.
"Jack, a person who is obviously a high functioning alcoholic, is incapable of processing this new information"
WHY IS THE RUM GONE
thats not good enough
But why the RUM!!!!
@@tbmakana *windows error sound*
Alexander Supertramp cringe
In Jamaica, a slice of pie costs $3.50. In the Bahamas, a slice of pie costs $5.50.
These are the pie rates of the Caribbean.
I fucking hate you
Underrated comment
@@andreburrasch that's OK, I hate you too
@@everything777 hey! Another one on the list! Welcome to the list of people that hate me
@@andreburrasch it is great to be here. Look forward to hating you some more.
Interesting that the Navy has the two red coat guys that talk with Jack early on as comic relief, and the pirates have the similar comic relief pair
and then they became pirates too lmao
@@niraisatsana it's honestly admirable of Gore Ver-bin-ski to bring them back for pirates 3, especially considering their only other appearance vase in the first.
PARALLELS
Great character foils, topped off with the final confrontation where both pairs finally meet. AND THEN THE PARLEY RULE OF THREEEE BAAABYYY!!!!!
@@YakmanOx One more reason the original three movies were great.
So I've just watched 50 mintues of someone telling me he likes Pirates of the Caribbean
At least it was somewhat entertaining.
Panda Magnum bucket list satisfied
But it was a good 50 minutes
@@stephb246 nope, he dissed the Goonies, not cool
@@onlyplayaseattacoswiththei9433
but he also said it was still a very good film via text
I always thought the reason that Elizabeth gave “Turner” as her surname was so that she might trick the pirates and hide the fact that she was the governor’s daughter to avoid being held for ransom or kept captive for whatever reason.
Travis Taylor that’s exactly why she was doing it actually. I always thought so
@@terra_the_nightingale135 I mean why else would she do it xD
Of course, but what Stephan meant is that her crush on Will is the reason why "Turner" is the first name that pops into her head
Malthe Joergensen ^ okay there we go!
That is exactly what I thought when I watched it
The screams when they get "hurt" might be out of frustration rather than actual pain, or even put of habit seeing as they lived most of their lives feeling pain
I think it’s just an instinctive reflex.
I like to think they just have a flair for the dramatic.
I chose to believe it’s part of the curse they can still feel pain and other negative sensations but they can never feel positive sensations.
@@Cpt_JackSparrow You would know
Blixer then how come when captain barbossa got stabbed by Elizabeth and jack he just sighed
The joke about Norrington holding the compass because he wants Jack actually tracks. Norrington wants to capture and kill all pirates so for this moment the compass points to what he wants.
I thus accept this as the truth.
W
But it’s FUNNY
“Dead man’s chest” is under appreciated. Davy Jones is one of the most memorable villains.
Sad sad movie
It’s my favorite movie
AGREED. who doesn't love an octopus face?
nagato is more memorable than davy jones
If you think about it hector and jones died with the same sympathy.
"Barbossa is best girl" I lost it laughing at that. Jokes aside I got really invested in this video, it's great picking up on small details I never thought about before and you're clearly passionate. I would totally be down for more videos in this style.
Holy shit, you're here too.
Reydriel ?
SilverHyozanryu I died laughing too!
Does anyone know a good channel for movie reviews like this?
awesomeheid Red Letter Media.
That did not feel like a 53:07 minute video at all.
Fuck. I only looked at the length because of this and realized this was a 53:07 minute long video. It didn't feel that long.
@@atrumangelus9733 fuckk. Sameee😭😂
SO TRU
Right
I watched at 2x speed so more like 27 minute video for me still only felt like 10 minutes
In the lore, mermaids are predatory and usually don’t actually kiss the sailors, however the kiss of a mermaid allows you to breathe underwater. At the end of stranger tides she kissed him instead of murdering him, so they had a happy ever after ending
Yeah I agree, it's just that this guy doesn't like the sequels that's why he was harsh towards them, I agree curse of the black pearl was the best but the sequels are good too just not as much
the second and third are good, but when it comes to the fourth, they didn't quite nail it with Jack
And the less said about the fifth the better
1, perfect. 2, 3 good. 4, 5 trash
Yeah, she even cried for him, one of the only things I remember from that movie. She didn't kill him imo
Would like to note that Barbosa mentions that he’s been starving without dying, I believe they still feel pain. Although Barbosa is just so badass he doesn’t flinch.
Even if they don't feel pain I might think being stabbed would cause you to cry out, even if one doesn't feel pain. Though they have had 10 years to get used to not feeling pain ( if that's the case). I'm saying the brains reaction is still "being stabbed is bad."
Or they just are mad because they can't feel
I also think that they dont feel pain, but still feel, and i can imagine feeling a blade go through your stomach is 1: very unpleasing, and 2: sends a reflex to your brain making you think it hurt. If they hadd no feeling at all, it would be somewhat hard to function since you really dont know how tightly to grip something e.g. (fair argument also used in Pacific Rim for the syncing with the jaeger).
The way I thought of it is they're rotting without dying. No matter how much they eat their stomach is dead. Their bladder is dead. Their body is rotting so they're clearly in constant pain, along with hunger and thirst, but their skin is dead so they can't feel what they touch.
I believe they feel pain. Besides Barbosa not reacting to the stab (badass), every other cursed pirate reacted to being cut, stabbed, or burned.
I believe Barbosa was referring to not being able to feel the good things that help you enjoy life. Food, drink and pleasurable company.
The fact you made a 53 minute video about a single film is honestly impressive on its own.
But the fact you made a 53 minute video about a single film that was also entertaining, informative and just all round great is crazy. Not a single minute of this was boring. At no point did I want to skip forward and in some instances I even replayed parts a few times because I found them that entertaining. Hell of a good video.
The video's good, but I could have done without the cringey, childish jokes.
@James West Here, here! Well said! =D
Well, each scene was doign more than one thing at once
Now that you mentioned it, the video is almost an hour long. That's incredible.
Didn't even know it was so long until you mentioned it
I think instead of "lying + cheating = cool" the moral is that strict adherence to a code is pointless, whether it be the Pirate's code or the letter of the law. Doing the right thing sometimes means breaking the rules.
jmcrofts
These pirates were so afraid of getting caught by the government that they made their own government! They must not be true pirates.
To my knowledge, that's a reference.
jmcrofts nah, it's about how lying and cheating successfully is the best option.
This is true only because rules are general
JMCROFTS? What're you doing here? Shouldn't you be working on some Tekken costume tutorial or something?
"Doing the right thing sometimes means breaking the rules" I read that in movie guy voice, sounds like a trailer tag line lol
Fun fact. Hans Zimmer didn't actually do the score for Pirates 1. He did the scores for Pirates 2 and 3. Klaus Badelt did the score for Curse of the Black Pearl.
This!
Zimmer actually did the score, but he was working on another project, so he wasn't allowed to do this one. So he did it in one night and gave it to Badelt, so he could take credit.
He basically did the score using Klaus Badelt as a proxy to circumvent some contractual obligations.
@@vxru5source, trust me bro
Nobody:
'...'
UA-cam Recommendations:
'Here's a 2 year old, 53 minute long video from a channel you've never heard of before and it's about a movie everyone has seen.'
UA-cam Recommendations has sent you to a good place.
Everybody: Watches video in its entirety and enjoys every minute
Thank you UA-cam, for once 😏.
And it's a damn good video.
And I watched the whole damned thing, and still felt like I should pirate and watch the movie. Doesn't matter if it takes 10 years and 23 movies, This movie is dead on point on how a movie should be made, and it only took 1.
I've always interpreted the curse as; you're immortal, but you derive no pleasure from it, only pain. Otherwise things like starvation and thirst wouldn't bother them. So they actually feel the pain of being stabbed, Barbossa is just more disciplined than his crew.
Yeh jack and Barbosa both
It makes sense. Why would a curse actually keep part of the curse from working effectively?
I do like the idea that Barbossa is just that much of a boss lol
Well, Pintel barely reacts to getting shot, showing no pain whatsoever. So it's not that Barbossa is just THAT badass. The movie is just inconsistent.
@@kennedyshotfirst2534 It's not entirely inconsistent. There's a scene where Ragetti is screaming and Pintel reminds him that he can't feel pain and he stops screaming. It's possible that they react to pain because they're used and physiologically conditioned to react to pain, and Barbossa and the smarter/more disciplined members of the crew just like... got over it.
You forgot the part where Barbosa was tantalized by watching Elizabeth eat. He was imagining him enjoying food and feeling famished when observing Elizabeth eating. He was also anxious to get back to normal. Pretty cool stuff.
Yes, he even brought an apple to the cave so that he could eat it as soon as the curse was lifted.
I think it's heavily implied that the Pirates can't feel satisfaction or fulfillment. As Barbarossa clearly states he feels like he can't slake desire no matter how much 'pleasurable company' there is and he can't feel the warmth of a woman's flesh, he's dying of starvation and thirst but can't die, so the Curse appears to only remove the positive feelings or satisfaction of things. He doesn't ever say he doesn't feel pain, he just can't feel or enjoy the things he could before being cursed.
It also wouldn't make much sense for the curse to remove the feeling of pain since the Curse is specifically intended to cause suffering.
Even that explanation is inconsistent though, seeing as Barbossa doesn’t react to getting stabbed, like, twice. I think the writers either forgot about it at times or some scenes wouldn’t work as well if the pirates just ignored the pain they should hypothetically feel. Best example of this is probably when Elizabeth pours the burning coal over Pintel and Ragetti. It would be really weird since the curse hadn’t been properly established yet.
@@HazelOrbius maybe it vase just memory, but hey it made this video funny.
@ what..?
@@HazelOrbius my best guess is that barbossa just ignores the pain. The sole purpose of pain is to compel one to get away from something dangerous to health. But since he can't die, he can just dismiss it. And hey, as the leader of his crew, he would likely be wiser and know that the pain is no big deal and has psychologically become accustomed to it.
It can also explain why he doesn't react in agony of being shot in the end, as he dismissed pain for so long he no longer associated it with bad things, even when it finally became bad once more.
I think it's more about unconsciously reacting to sudden events as expected (nobody says the curse removes muscle memory; in fact muscle/nerve memory is pretty crucial to their moving about), as well as phantom feelings (same thing, different words). The part where Ragetti gets glowing ashes in his hair is pretty open about this: Pintel has to remind him that he *can't actually feel it* (although that line was cut from this video), he just expects to get burned. This happens to all the lower status, less intelligent pirates. It doesn't happen to Barbossa who is (at least compared to his crewmembers) quite intelligent and is thus able to control his reaction to being stabbed, and he even makes a point out of not feeling it to Elizabeth. And Sparrow is obviously on Barbossa's level, hence he's equally able to control his reaction (although his genuine fascination seeps through eventually).
I don't, however, think Krosecz was unable to realize this to begin with. I assume he simply decided to instead use it as an opportunity to make funny, critizising remarks of the low-hanging fruit variety. You know, to entertain us. I think that's fine.
Late...but... "They keep acting like they're hurt!"...think of it as a "full body" version of "phantom limb syndrome". They psychologically remember it SHOULD hurt, so they react in anticipation. My theory anyway. :)
Alternatively, they do feel pain in their "fleshed" forms. Barbossa is just stoic (or badass, if you prefer) to not react to the pain. He does the same thing at the end of the movie, after the curse is lifted and Jack shoots him: He stands stoicly, remarking that he can feel, and that he can feel cold.
Also, as I recall, Barbossa doesn't say that he and his men can't feel, just that they can't gain pleasure from their senses, due to the curse.
Plum Fun that what I was thinking
I always thought Barbarossa meant they can't feel anything, as in 'they cannot experience anything good". They can't experience pleasure, but they can experience pain. So essentially they are in hell.
well one thing you should have learn from this move, is not to trust a pirates words.
And also Im on "phantom limb syndrome" i mean being hit may not hurt your emortal body, bot it still hurts you pride as a sword fighter.
I sometimes shout out pain words when dying in video games, heck sometimes it really physical hurts losing that diamond picaxe in a pool of lave :P
I can understand that; multiple times I’ve hit my shin or shoulder on a doorway and cry out in pain despite there being no actual pain
11:05 The Mermaid didnt drown the man, earlier in the movie you hear the sailors say how a mermaids kiss allows the sailor to breathe underwater.
Sounds like mermaid propaganda so you don't struggle as much to me
wow I need to watch it again..totally missed that
@@djphoolishroc6816 they dont drown them, they just drag them to the depths and eat them... also realistically if you get dragged down that fast you will die because of the pressure difference, thats why divers take some time when they go diving to stop every few meters and thus their bodies get used to the pressure
@@totallyanexpert5212 Divers don't need to descend slowly as long as we equalize. However we do need to ASCEND slowly or else we'll get decompression sickness. Due to the nature of buoyancy, divers still sink slowly, and sinking quickly wouldn't be an issue unless you mean sinking VERY quickly.
@@totallyanexpert5212 Also descending without equalizing won't kill you either way, it'll just cause bleeding.
>It's 2:28 in the morning
>Just watched an hour review of a movie from 2003
>Feel like total crap
But damn that was good.
Dude same; 1:30 AM
literally me. I couldn't look away.
2:46 for me. just finished the vid
Yay fellow from the past! It's 3am for me. Feel like total piece of shit for going against my own promise to sleep at least before 2am. But still, that video was damn good.
Same, my time is for the moment 02:39 in the morning and i would go to bed too 02 at least. But that movie is definately great
I actually like the beginning scene, it plays up the "fearful" aspect of pirates rather than the romanticised one
Also while pirates were cruel i think many of them were more like "mercenaries" or privateers as they were called, you dont last long with no allies
Yeah it's an odd complaint to dislike your main antagonists being set up as scary and evil via the intro
No, many were just evil
A profession which the scum of the earth would have been drawn to - those kinds of people have always existed, even to this day, and are drawn towards whatever makes their vile impulses the easiest to obtain
The only "allies" were the ones who followed whoever had the biggest dick to swing, some rare bands may have had mutually respectful agreement, but certainly not joining a fight for the other if it was not beneficial to themselves - or help in a fight and stab them in the back right after
It was a land of no morals
I think the problem with the opening is not the slight "horror" tone, which I think is probably a really good idea. It's just that, I suspect, the little girl's acting and characterization is a bit weak. It would have been far better, in my opinion, if Elizabeth had been portrayed as secondary to the adults here. This way a little girl, whose value as a forceful character is minuscule at best, could be introduced and portrayed _as a kid,_ and not as a small adult with bad acting.
Even her standing there singing was awkward. I like the zoom-in on the ship, but the whole time I'm watching her trying to act, and that's a huge problem for a movie otherwise full of actual actors.
>They keep crying out like they're hurt when they're not.
Funny thing: know what I say when my character gets hurt in a video game? I say "ow" or some derivative. The pirates might not feel anything, but they may REMEMBER feeling things and are reacting out of a lifetime of habit.
Only when they see the hit coming they don't react!
The Trash Child well you main a noskill spammer
HAVE A NICE DAY!
Makes sense, actually. Kinda like how you can lightly stub your toe on a table and say 'ow!' even if it didn't hurt. It's just...instinctive. You experience something that you know should hurt and you act accordingly, even if it doesn't hurt for some reason.
Like how I always feel a bit of panic at the dentist, despite knowing the anesthetic cream they use before the injected anesthetic makes the experience quite tolerable, if a bit uncomfortable when I have to have my head tilted back at an angle I'm not used to.
Barbossa totally has that whole speech about "not remembering" the touch or taste of anything so.. lol why am I even here.
Norrington possibly being gay for Jack is not the hot take I was expecting but damn it I got it
i think jack is bi😳
It dose sota explain his strict posinalty, having to hide your gay in that time period, and factor in how Jack is like everything Norrington never could be.
Man the more I think about it the mor canon im calling this XD
@@dylan-ew4ze i do too
Sparrington is now my go-to PotC ship.
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ good.
You actually made me believe Norrington is in love with Jack ,can't believe I watched the whole thing.Good job ,mate.
Whenever careless whisper played I choked
There are a ton of norrington x jack fanfics surprisingly
I had to google it after watching this lol
Well a new ship a has sailed for a lot of us
I feel like its not love its that hes been hunting for jack ever since he let the slaves go
I just done re-binge the movies few days ago and finished this video and i actually surprisely agreed with the crack ship😂😂 I found it hilarious how he point out the whole compass point at Jack when Norrinton holding it thing lmao
I think the purpose of Gibbs being in the beginning of the movie is to give Elizabeth a solid reason to trust (or at least, go along with) Jack's crew. Gibbs is a friendly face, and given the fact that she looks to him for clarification about Norrington's joke in the first scene of the film, is likely someone who she knew reasonably well and was comfortable around.
It's not a big thing, but giving Elizabeth even one extra person who she trusts goes a long way in explaining why she - who had previously been quite shrewd and cautious around the pirates - lets her guard down a bit around Jack's crew
It's also good world building. People were sometimes press ganged into service at this time, or they joined up simply to leave bad circumstances and then deserted at the first opportunity. Or they could just leave when their service was up. But it makes the world feel a bit more lived in to have a guy working for the navy eventually leave and become a pirate because it happened all the time of course.
@@IshtarNike Agreed! I really love that particular perspective.
I think Gibbs is a visual way of foreshadowing to the audience that Will's father could be both a good man and a pirate. Since he actually starts off the movie as a Navy Sailor (similar to what Will thinks his Dad was) and when we see him again as a pirate, it's with Jack (who revealed the truth about Bootstrap Bill to Will)
"Norrington is such a tsundere, but everyone knows Barbosa is the best girl" Never thought I'd hear this in my lifetime 😂
Truer words have never been spoken.
i has no idea what that meant. care to explain?
@APAL880 very cursed words.
Keira Knightley actually was in Star Wars. She played Padmé's decoy in The Phantom Menace. That fact actually makes the "Wait wasn't she in Star Wars?" joke even funnier.
*Mind blown*
But... was that not the point of the joke? The fact that she was, indeed, in Star Wars?
@@krixkhaos The joke was that Keira Knightley and Natalie Portman have been mistaken for each other quite frequently.
@@SobiTheRobot no it's just gone over your head
@@SobiTheRobot they were cast in tpm because of the similarity
"The last movie that people actually watched that prominently featured pirates? Muppet Treasure Island and Cutthroat Island".....HOW DO YOU FORGET ABOUT HOOK????
I JUST SAID THAT TOO Like that was a HUGE pirate movie and even if they were villians, my child self was totally taken captive by those pirates.
@@AWindy94 right??
RUFEO RUFEO RUFEO
yeah! hook was a huge hit at my school! we would always get excited when we could watch it at school.
Of my my favourite films as a kid. It was amazing. The bit where the pirate was put in the 'boo box' with the scorpions, terrified me.
Fun fact: Jack getting mad and almost killing Elizabeth after she burns all the rum is kind of understandable when you get the wider shot of the island and see absolutely no source of freshwater in sight.
She just burned their only source of consumable liquid. Sure it works out in the end, but still.
Also she burned the source of shade.
To be fair, the alcohol concentration in rum is so high that it actually deprives your body of water instead of supplying it.
@@christianweber7039 Well, better than nothing I guess
@@ALJ9000 No it's actually worse. It's the same effect as drinking salt water xD
@@christianweber7039 Well, at least you can go out happy
In context, it's clear that when Barbossa says, "I Feel Nothing," he means that he doesn't feel any PLEASURE or SATISFACTION. He and his crew remain perfectly capable of suffering (they suffer from hunger, thirst, sexual frustration and, at least up to a point, physical pain). Barbossa is the only one of the cursed pirates who responds to physical assaults as though they don't cause him any pain. That has to do with the particular nature of his character, not the nature of the curse.
Michael Brick And at the very least there is a certain amount of shock and frustration causing them to scream.
Michael Brick then Barbossa wouldn't have said "I feel cold" as if it were something new
His feeling cold isn't describing temperature; it's the feeling of his heart. He was shot through the heart and then returned to humanity.... He felt the metaphorical sensation of your blood running cold, because he was bleeding out. He went from a moment of feeling the warmth of life again, to the chill as his blood flowed away and true death took him. You can tell from his hesitation he was taking a moment to process. But he does specifically state earlier in the movie he is suffering; dying of hunger and thirst is excruciating. The constant agony of being completely parched, but unable to get satisfaction even after drinking a barrel of water drives him to violent extremes. If they couldn't suffer, it wouldn't really be a curse; they seemed to enjoy the fact that they can't die and such just fine. They get whatever they want because they don't have to worry about damage. But, because they can feel none of the pleasures of life even as they suffer constant misery of starving, dehydration, no skin sensations, and of course physical pain, it's a living hell. Nothing has value if you can't enjoy it... I mean, Barbossa is more the exception than the rule, really. All the other cursed pirates react like they would normally for most things; the coals stung, being run through hurts, their limbs come off if you slice them.. the difference is, it doesn't affect them more than a moment. A major factor is, they can burn and bleed like the living when hidden from the moonlight. Jack cutting himself for the ritual and shooting Barbossa relied on this; their flesh is REAL when hidden from moonlight. Otherwise... the whole story would be pointless, as ending the curse would be impossible.
Feeling cold is the *literal* sensation of bleeding out and/or dying in any number of ways, the line is referring to a well established trope as such. I think it's a stretch of interpretation at best to suggest that Barbossa's final words were that abstract. I think he meant it in the most simple, natural, and human way possible, expressing the mortality and vulnerability that so suddenly came to him. The first thing he gets to feel, physically, is dying, and it's all he has to speak from.
Came here to look for this, but well... it was very much at the top.
The sexy sax between Norington and Jack earned a sub. Much good.
Seconding!
"Like a pirate ship! Arghharhar"
So much love for this 💗😅
Im going to make fanfic abt these two... NORJACK FOREVER (jk but seriously tho that moment was cuuuuutteee)
I think her "bad action line" was put there on purpose. Elizabeth has now been introduced into the world of adventure and since she is a "pirate nerd" I think she probably wanted to say that kind of thing at some point. I mean, how many of us wouldn't like to say a cheesy line at the perfect moment given the chance?
It's also a very effective joke precisely *because* of its delivery as a cheesy Action Line.
If I said I wouldn’t, I’d be lying
Bad timing or not, i always found the line funny
Jack Sparrow is so smart that he even convinced most of the audience that he was dumb
the pirates screaming in "pain" is probably something like the placebo effect. They know they've been stabbed or hit and their mind tells them to scream before they realize that there is no reason to scream because they feel no pain.
130shooter1 I do this when I do something that should hurt but ends up not hurting... so... uh...
Though, I just assumed they could only feel pain. Seems fitting of a curse, and perhaps Barbosa shows no pain and uses that to his advantage. Intimidation tactic.
something like a wince?
They are still human with a human mind so they would still feel a cirtain level of shock or yes the placebo effect.
Just because they are imortal doesnt disconect them from who they were and still are.
Barbosa has changed who he is and in a way accepted his condition and made it a strengh to achive his goal of being mortal again.
130shooter1 that makes a lot of sense
Not necessarily placebo, just conditioning. Like when you strike something by accident and say "ouch" out of reflex
the compass probably pointed to jack because he wanted to arrest jack, implying he values his career above anything else, which makes perfect sense for him
Ansixi either that or Jack was his Sempai
*senpai
Arrest him in a kinky way
would there be handcuffs?
Well of course, what's the point of kinky arrest without handcuffs?
I know this video is kinda old but I always figured Elizabeth used Will’s last name because she thinks they raided port Royal for a ransom for the governors daughter so she doesn’t use her own name.
She said that she recognized the Black Pearl from 8 years ago when crossing from England. She also associated it with Will Turner who she thought was a pirate. So they were obviously after the coin which is why she threatened to throw it into the sea.
Yeah but she also used it because she loves will and it was prolly the first name she thought of
16:52 The "eunuch" comment returns in later movies, when Jack tells the natives that Will has been "snip snipped".
Ita say eunuchie, snip snip. -Cheif Jack
*pained and pitied looks* -Cannibal Villagers.
+Beppe
Thread-Necromancy, but the joke reappears later in the movie.
When Jack attempts to obscure Will's identity after the *Interceptor* is destroyed, Jack lists 'lovely singing voice though', implying him to be castrato singer.
"I mean The Goonies had pirates, but you know they're all dead, so I don't think that counts."
**Looks at the crew of the Black Pearl.**
Stil nok a dick joke and kind the hole point is that the crew of the Black Pearl is so far from dead as you can be, only in moonlight do they look the part.
@@MouseGoat they're undead
I was disappointed he didn't seem to watch or mention Hook.
@@jongon0848 hook? Is that a movie?
They are UNDEAD
At 29:22 my thoughts on the matter of Norington are that he was desiring to arrest Jack, who's been extremely elusive for the Navy. So it makes sense in that context that the compass was showing him where Jack was.
exactly
I was about to make that comment.
Also shows more character arch for Norrington. "His desire to arrest Jack" because "he's been extremely elusive for the Navy", then Jack tries to bait him into going after Black Pearl. Then Norrington says, "By remembering I serve others, and not just myself." Whereas he was all-in on arresting and hanging Jack for the glory.
"was desiring to arrest Jack"
So he was into bondage?
Its actually super funny rewatching this movie thinking that Norrington has the hots for Jack xDD every scene between them becomes hilarious
Dammit. Now I need to go search for fanfiction...
the compass was pointing on jack because the thing he desired the most is jack dead
@@emilschultz8428 no, no, no, you are wronf my friend.
It's love, undying love, accept it, it's obvious!
Sigh. You are being deceived. The Potc universe is yet again another twisted gospel version of the Bible where Beckett represents Jesus and is painted out to be the bad guy when he really isn't, and Jack, Pintel, Hector, Will, Elizabeth are the satanic rebellion in which you the audience are unknowingly supporting by siding against Beckett. Disney is satanic, it's time you all wake up. Look at the logo for the Endeavours flag, look at the death position of Beckett when he dies. Listen to the beginning of Potc 3 when they call Lord Beckett. Notice how the East Indian Trading Company is the ones who enforce the law, sounds similar to Jesus does it not? The East Indian Trading Company are the good guys, the Black Pearl and it's allies are the real bad guys. Even pay attention to when Tia Dalma says "Not of death, but punishment, the worst thing one can bring upon himself, stretching on forever, that's what awaits in Davy Jones locker" Fellas, she's literally describing Hell and they head straight into it in the glacier valley, notice the dark passage way. When they go past it they immediately are in darkness, in which a waterfall is the direction they are heading. The waterfall represents the fall into Hell, and yet Barbossa menacingly laughs while they are descending into it. The whole concept of Davy Jones locker is that Hell is this place of nothing where you go crazy, and can actually be saved by your fellow rebels. That's not biblical at all, wake up people! This is Satan's viewpoint on the war
Kassterlark Of The North what the fuck?
My favorite movie of all time and god damn this review captures every reason why I love it so much
Oh Hi Act-Man this by far is the best movie I've ever seen in my life. Made in 2003 but I watched it for the 1st time in 2021 and The CGI is stunning.
Ayyyye if it aint the Acting Homosapien himself nice seeing you around my man! Love what you do, Never stop making great videos.
@@HarnaiDigital it took you that long? I feel kinda bad for you
Wow you are here!!! Hello Acting Gentlemen
Big fucking shocker seeing this guy here
Best line in PotC: "I got a jar of dirt!"
Second best line: "Why's the rum gone?!"
David Potts why s the rum always gone
REVERSE THAT MATE.
ravenwear I will switch it when “Why’s the rum gone” gets a song made lol
Read this exactly how jack sung it😂
All the moments of Norrington's love for Jack ;
51:20 :-: 50:17 :-: 48:47 :-: 38:42 :-: 29:49 :-: 29:08
Rdlf THANK YOU
50:17 "It's a thing, guys."
What song tho
just search Careless Whisper on yt
his edit is gold 😂😂
i never thinking about norrington's shit with jack
that uh, disclaimer about depp is a little awkward now that we know the claims against him were false...
Jup, but not really his fault though. And youtube is diffucult with making changes to uploaded video, I heard.
The claims against him didn't really hold water to begin with.
Brian L badum tsssss
I guess you can't entirely blame Stephan for trying to take the safe route but it does highlight the problem that in today's society that too often an accusation is taken as fact by the media and run with without doing their due diligence.
@@RandomCarrot2806 To be actually honest, he said "if you're interested, look it up" pretty much. Which I then did and found out about the false claims, so there's no real misinformation. Except for the "doing a Johnny Depp" line.
Jack almost killing Elizabeth over Rum was my most favorite scene in the movie 🤣🤣🤣 Also I'd like to point out about Barbossa'a death the detail that he was holding an apple in his hand (most likely throughout the entire final fight scene) because he was waiting eagerly for the moment he'd be cured of the curse as a reminder from earlier when he cut Elizabeth's hand (attempting to cure himself) he said "You know what I'm going to do once I'm free of this curse?! *looks at Elizabeth sympathetically* Eat a whole bushel of apples..." Barbossa the ruthless captain of The Black Pearl could have said *anything* within his possibly endless list of desires but he wants to enjoy the little thing he hasn't been able to for ten long years. Apples. I take that as a couple lessons to heart that everyone could learn from: 1: Enjoy the little things & 2: Enjoy life while you have it
3: eat apples
11:07 The mermaid (serina) didn’t drown the priest, remember what one of the pirates said in during the movie was “A mermaids kiss helps you breath underwater”...
that was exactly what i thought as well
Breathing isn’t the only problem, he’d probably die from the water pressure anyway
JEVG Gaming yeah something about you won’t drown or something, yeah, I forgot that.
@@ghost_craftinganimates813 if you can breathe underwater you can dive up to 700m deep without dying. The reason why divers don't dive that deep is because the air they have to breathe gets toxic at certain depths, and the people who set the record weren't underwater, but in a pressure chamber and their decompression phase took over 20 days
@@ghost_craftinganimates813 movie logic
I really enjoyed this extensive and in-depth breakdown on why CotBP succeeds as a movie. Since you're clearly passionate about it and the franchise, I would enjoy seeing a continuation of this at some point for you to breakdown how and why the sequels went wrong.
i needed why too long to figure out that CotBP stands for Captn of the Black Pearl and i´m not even sure
Tobias Schabel Curse of the Black pearl isn't it?
Jack F1tz correct
This would be amazing!
The second and third movies were both better than the first. The first one is nothing more than a movie that you can watch and enjoy but the second and third had more interesting events as well as deeper meanings that takes a mind that's open to the new and innovative ideas to truly appreciate.
"im too poor to date u"
i felt that
noa kalter bruh
"you can only have rich dick" lmfaoooo
I’ve always interpreted Barbosa’s line of “I feel nothing“ to mean that they can only feel pain and no pleasure because of the explanation of how they’re constantly starving and thirsting to death but can’t die and that’s always been my head cannon as to why when the crew gets stabbed, they cry out in pain, and Barbosa’s non-reaction is to show he’s so personally so used to the pain/ an attempt at intimidation.
As someone else in the comment section noted, that doesn't really work with Barbossa's dying line. The whole bittersweet and almost sad note of "I feel ... cold" comes from him going on a quest for 10 years to feel anything, only for his only feeling after the curse of lifted to be the cold grasp of death. The way that line is delivered also heavily implies that feeling *anything* is a whole new thing for him. And it makes sense, too, that as an undead they are completely numb to everything.
If you read the script, this is actually pretty clearly what was intended. The final film just does a bad job of communicating it, it's hard not to take Barbossa's "I feel nothing!" at total face value, making every shout of pain come off like it's a plot-hole
The compass joke was a bit funny but it could be a hidden detail that only be the perceptive can catch. It could point to the fact that the compass is very situational in where it points. Norrington wanted to arrest him and take him out, so the compass was pointing at Jack. Or it was just an oversight.
John Blood Pretty sure Norrigton wanted to kill Jack.
be that as it may. the point still stands.
I've always thought it showed that Norrington wanted revenge more than he loved elizabeth.
Orrrrrrrrr... He wants Jack 😉
Shhhhh....don't ruin it for us ;)
Wow that Johnny Depp disclaimer didn't age well....
My thoughts exactly I was going to come comment that lmao
what happend??
@@h0lstein121 Johnny Depp was accused of abuse by his ex wife and his career went to shit. Only for it come out that he was the one being abused, and theres some pretty gruesome pictures from some of his injuries
Holy shit, hope hes fine now
The moment the disclaimer was spoken, I knew I had to check comments and wasn't disappointed.
This has been my favorite movie since it came out when I was 10 years old, and my preteen-teenage self was more than a little obsessed. I'm sure I've seen it a hundred times (literally), yet you pointed out things I had never noticed (all those parallels!). What makes me really happy though- you articulately justified my adoration for a film that I far too frequently apologized for praising. Pirates of the Caribbean isn't just a silly Disney film. This movie is a really brilliant piece of film making, and if anyone tries to tell me otherwise, I've gonna strap their bootstraps to a cannon and force them to watch this.
The first 3 are yes
As a note, Klaus Badelt deserves the credit for the soundtrack and iconic theme. Hans Zimmer did the sequels, but not the first one.
Nope, credit should be shared. Hans wrote the themes and sent them to Klaus to orchestrate. Hans was working on another project so physically and contractually couldn’t compose the complete score.
Two great composers is better than one, hence the quality of this soundtrack!
When I was a little kid me and my friends would always say "Ello Poppet" when we'd find someone during a game of hide and seek😂
I completely forgot about that lol.
damn... and i was mocked for being so obsessed with this film that i pretended to be jack sparrow during recess. im a woman. thats probably why ¬.¬
@@pandakicker1 aww :(
@Maria Isabelle Villacorte Ohhhh man that sounds awesome but they totally already thought I was a freak by the time I did that. It only got worse after that. I was the social outcast the whole time I went to that school but I got a top grade education despite the mental torment that my peers subjected me to! :D
omg my childhood
asleep: will and elizabeth are in love
eyes open: will and jack sparrow have unspoken feelings for each other
wide awake: captain norrington feels an unexplainable spark for jack, a fondness for him and an appreciation for the excitement and variety he briefly brings to his life that extends past the simple relationship between hunter and prey, and this fondness haunts him, lingers in him unexplained and unaddressed, until the end of his days
His love for Jack and the adventure killed him in the end in the third movie too.
YESS
Yes because EvErYoNe loves Jack
(I sound pretty salty but I actually think this is pretty funny)
@Cringy Wamen yo it's a joke, chill out. there's nothing explicit about my comment. i wouldn't have said anything if he hadn't brought it up in the video. you're the one who made it weird.
You have a beautiful way of stating things, you're probably an excellent storyteller
20:33. While the reason she uses Turner could be the crush idea, I always thought it was because of the maid and her previous "They've come to kidnap you." "You're the Governor's daughter."
So she fumbles for a common surname that isn't her own and picks Turner because it's the first name that pops into her head, as she has a crush on him, and he is a common person. And it all fits together so beautifully and this film is awesome!
nah I think it has more to do with the fact that she knows what they are after now which is the gold chain which belonged to Will Turner which means the crew knew Will's dad but obviously did not know he had a son or a child for that matter so she pretended to be that child thinking it will help save Will and her life and make them leave the port city, but she later realizes that since he pretended to be a Turner they now needed her/blood and weren't going to treat her favorary for being a crewmate's daughter....you've got to remember that Elizabeth knows a lot about pirates and pirate code but sort of fantasies what they truly are so she thought saying she was elizabeth turner will save her/gain their trust since she's one of their own but learnt it actually helped them out in finding someone with Turner's blood which they need.
She also could of used any name from the many workers she has, yet she pick Turner because it was him that she kept thinking about. She has a crush
she even says something like "im uhhh a maid in the governors house"
It's actually a point the writers made in the feature commentary. She didn't use her name because yes, she is the governor's daughter but they did mention the school girl thing about trying out your crush's name with your own.
I occasionally come back to this every once in a while to remind me why I love pirates
I wouldn't say Jack was a supporting character in the first movie.
He was more like a secondary protagonist to Will and Elizabeth's primary. He drove the plot forward pretty much the same amount as they did and actually had a personal beef with the main antagonist.
That said, you're right, the sequels messed up by making him not only the primary protagonist, but eventually the ONLY protagonist with a bunch of bland supporting characters.
Speaking of which, I do love Norrington's character in the first movie. He's the secondary antagonist, but unlike most examples (Joker from Suicide Squad) he actually has something to do with what's going on and despite being an antagonist he is still treated as a well-intentioned guy despite how little focus is drawn to him.
You're describing a deuteragonist. :)
Similarly can be seen in Mad Max: Fury Road where Mad Max is certainly the hero of the story but not necessarily the protagonist, as the focus is on Furiosa going through a journey that results in a change. Same thing in Gatsby where Toby Maguire's character is the POV.
So, Sparrow is definitely the hero, and possibly the most important figure in the film. But he certainly isn't the POV character as he isn't ordinary; thus, unrelatable to ordinary viewers.
i think u have it backwards, in the first movie the main plot is about jack getting the pearl back so he was actualy the main hero , the sequels actualy made him a comedic deuteragonist
I knew the first one was actually good but I never understood how good it was until this video.
Darkos Overlord Etna ❤
I think Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End perfectly gave Jack Sparrow prominence. The revelation that he made a deal with Davy Jones adds a heavy layer of explanation to why everyone seems to know who Jack is. This dude’s mind is so set on weaseling his way out of any conflict that comes his way he’d strike a deal with Davy Jones just for the sake of getting his ship back.
His problem-solving strategy is to just get a solution to the present problem even if that solution gives him a bigger problem later bc he'll just deal with the bigger problem later and it spiraled out of control until he ends up in davy Jones locker lmao
@@allPodd He gets out of it, though, so it worked.
Captain.
@@allPodd plus the character of Captain Jack didn't really change much in the 1st movie But he did have motivations and personality whereas in the 2nd movie he realised he couldn't control this issue, it was his fate to go back to the Pearl and even though he didnt intend to stay behind he went down in style like a true Captain would with his ship, the only thing he could control wasnt his fate BUT his actions, hence why he returned to the Pearl to save the crew/
I read online recently that while Elizabeth and Will both become pirates over the course of this movie, they adopt different styles. Will becomes a pirate in the vein of Jack, while Elizabeth becomes a pirate like Barbossa. Would love to see your take on this!!
29:07
Well, maybe it's pointing at Jack because at the moment Jack is effectively Norrington's prize. He is an infamous pirate Norrington will put away, and use to further climb up the naval ladder to admiral.
Pretty much my interpretation.
Or because Jack is the love of his life. :}
*Norrington my dude
I always kinda thought you had to really focus on the compass knowing what it does to make it work. In the later movies doesn't it stop "working" for Jack because he can't focus or know what he wants?
yeah but then it spins uncontrollably. here it seems to point. But given that norringtons life goal is or was to free the world from piracy I think it's plausible that it points on jack at this point.
I wonder if the whole, "he pretty much became a parody of himself," is actually due to the fact that the writers embraced his character design and wrote him that way. Maybe the genius of Jack Sparrow was due to writing him as a serious character and then having Depp mess it up brilliantly.
Jeremy Martin Brilliant explanation, must have gone that way
That's quite possible, but I personally believe the reason Depp lands all these super eccentric character rolls is from all the time he spent shadowing Hunter S Thompson.
no thats really pretty much impossible. a lot of the things he says are ironic or funny no matter how you present it. the thing with his hat for example. tha movie has lot of humor in it.
100% agree. its 15 years in, why tf depp care about jack character anymore. the writer is the problem especially after the third movie and depp is definitely can act other than drunk bumbling pirate. a parody of himself from a same franchise is not mean that depp becoming worst as an actor. just look at his other work
I have different opinion, much more straight forward and the narrator very very slightly talks about the following issue earlier in the video, which is,
The studio exec and producers, they saw what was loved and simply commanded the movie crew to do it again. And as an outcome of THAT writers wrote him in subsequent movies as "Jack sparrow stereotype", they made it formulaic, unimaginative and no character growth. And that's not writer's fault (although it's a question if they could have done any better regardless) but it's studio which never allowed anyone after first movie to do anything independently.
I like how you picked apart all the nifty details of the movie, and I really appreciate how passionate you sounded about it. It's always great to come across people who are genuinely invested in their topic, and I sat through the entire video. Really enjoyed it, love the work you put in here!
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I agree! There is so much "pownage" and "refuted" and "destroyed" videos on youtube and they are fun too, but it is refreshing and a lot harder to show from time to time that things are awesome and why they are great
Came here to say pretty much exactly this. Well put and I second your sentiment wholeheartedly.
I watched 2mins of the video then subscribed, because of this comment lol. I'll get round to watching the whole video later.
Great video! I always thought Gibbs starting out as a part of the navy and ending up a pirate was just meant to show another example of how a good man could also be a pirate.
When Pintel says “Stop rubbing it “ to Ragetti when he’s conscious of his wooden eye🥺🥺😩😩 such an “awwww🥺😭” moment ❤️
BANDILE NZIMANDE my favourite romance
Right? True friendship.
although your point is incredibly right and on point at 11:05 she didn't kill him, a mermaids kiss is supposed to make you be able to breath under water this was established while the pirates were used as bait for the mermaids.
They honestly could've portrayed that a bit better I think, unless that was the intention. I saw that movie in theaters and to this day still figured she straight-up drowned him.
Being able to breath underwater won't stop him from bleeding to death from his seemingly fatal wound.
Every time my mom sees that scene she says something along the lines of "A mermaid's kiss gives breath to men with no gills."
+TheShippinSquad Your mom sounds wise but creepy.
Pau Naic And awesome.
When the doctor says you only have 54 minutes to live
Dor Sivan and then you have 53 seconds to spare
You spend it listening to He's a Pirate.
+Test Account Please Ignore how about you are a pirate instead
Dor Sivan That is actually damn sad 😢
Dor Sivan, what die use the other minute for.
Congrats, you have convinced me that Sparrington is a valid ship.
I beg your pardon..?!
@@jamesnorrington7411 you heard me.
Heeeeeey.
Absolutely not.
Your loss...
47:20 Seriously, when I saw this in the theater the _”I feel... cold.”_ line rocked the entire audience...
I know that's one of my favorite lines of the entire franchise
It's tragic because he wanted to feel the wind in his face or the spray of the sea yet his first feeling was that of death itself
I am in no way in a relationship with Mr. Sparrow. I do have a fiancé, wait I died...
So commodore how did you can comumicate with us?
Alejandro López nothing in the Pirates of the Caribbean universe has to make sense.
I was hoping that the Afterlife had Internet tbh
Alejandro López Thanos Car ruined that for the afterlife
I suppose if Hell is below ground and Heaven above... yeah, even the signal strengths line up.
51:52 "and that was me talking for way too long about pirates of the Caribbean"
And that was me watching you for way too long talking about it
yep
While the first “Pirates” movie was absolute lightning in a bottle, can we also acknowledge that so was this video essay???
Even five years later, I’m still watching it periodically because I remember how much it made me love both the movie and video essays.
There really hasn’t been the same quality of video essays anywhere else since.
Dude same, I keep coming back to this video because it's so well made and articulated. It's so easy to watch and I haven't forgotten about it since I first saw it like 4 years ago.
@@whatif9854 I know! The editing is priceless. Stephen really breaks it down from start to finish. I really miss these sorts of things.
if you like long video essays on some type of media, i’d suggest jenny nicholson as well!
Literally came back to this video for this exact reason.
Literally trying something to listen to while I’m driving around for work and I was like…. I haven’t listened to the pirates video in a while. Time to do it again.
I watched the whole thing without realising it’s 50 minuets long Edit: 10:28 20011 Typo.
Fuzz Challenge I didn’t even notice until I saw this
RIP 1 hour of my life.
All I'm wondering is, how d'you know it's a year? It could be a zip code. Maybe the movie was made in northeast Washington DC... just sayin'
(also I like that there's a typo in your comment pointing out a typo, if that was on purpose, nicely done)
2:30 in, I've had enough :'D
Keira Knightley actually was in the Star Wars prequels. She was Padme’s “queen double”. Seriously.
I didnt realise that, but its probably why people are always confusing the two
that's the joke.
No shit that's the joke
THAT WAS HER?
Yeah her and Natalie Portman really do look alike!
Johnny Depp is definitely worthy of praise. Innocent of all accusations
@@zsedcftglkjh no he's not
Edit: nvm ignore this comment
21 Savage333 Reread his comment.
He shouldn't have anyone's custody and his mony supports human rights abuses trough a "Church", beyond that most things are too private for me to judge.
@@zsedcftglkjh oh wait I read that wrong lol
Steve Irwin Is My Daddy Innocent of all accusations EXCEPT illegally bringing his dogs into Australia. Big fucking deal.
You ever watch a movie even though you think it’s cheesy and then accidentally watch the whole thing because it turns out to be a masterpiece? That’s this movie for me
i could go on for 53 minutes just about hans zimmer's score for this movie
no joke.
But for the first PoC movie Klaus Badelt wrote music. Hans was producer
@@uaxpavlo they collaborated:) should've added his name too, but then i would also have had to mention ramin djawadi, steve jablonsky and many others. klaus and hans were both producers.
@@atallaedits In Original Music only Klaus mentioned so I thought he made most of it
M P congrats, you’re different! Do you feel good now?
No, Klaus Badelt was not the one who wrote the main melodies, it was Hans Zimmer. Badelt provided the full orchestration of the score. Both of them are to be thanked, but don’t take away credit that Zimmer deserves.
Some of the parts of this video didn't age well, now that we have evidence that Johnny Depp was innocent and the accusations against him were entirely false.
Yep 😅
Yeah he really shouldn't have mentioned it at all, all things considered.
Amber Heard is a psycho
s'all edited out mate. Respeccs for the dude.
Sorry, Im sort of out of the loop. What happened?
'Judging the character, not Depp's personal life'
...I mean fair enough, but Depp was recently proven innocent.
Proven innocent in a court doesn't mean a person is innocent. He has been defending a couple of satanist murderers REALLY hard for a while. He is NOT a good guy in any way.
@@Rpgreat
Being proven innocent in a court of law *does* in fact prove that one is innocent. Innocent of the crimes one was accused of. Until proven otherwise. He is innocent.
You do not have to be a 'good guy' to be innocent of a crime. You don't know if he's a bad guy or not, you don't personally know him. Neither do I. Until I meet him he is neither a good, nor a bad guy... Though seeing him dress up as Captain Jack and meet children with cancer, as well as donate to several charities, does sway my opinion somewhat.
Also, were these 'Satanists' actual murderers, or convicted? And what's wrong with Satanism as an ideology, haven't you ever picked up a copy of Milton's Paradise Lost?
If these people were proved to have actually killed someone, and he still defended them, then I agree his actions were flawed and immoral. Which doesn't necessarily cancel out the plethora of 'good' things he did regardless.
@@ieatbugs8948 innocent according to the law doesnt mean innocent. Which was my point. You were too stupid to understand the basic sentence. Wp
Uh. He was not only proven innocent but he also proved that she was abusing him and has now filed a deformation of character law suite against him.
If innocent until proven guilty is good enough for the entire Western world to base our legal system on then surely it's good enough to be how to judge the character of our fellow man. Oh never mind, let's throw out the last couple thousand years of development and progress because there are accusations and rumors about a celebrity.......
The fucking arrogance and pigheadedness you are putting on display here is beyond words Victor.
Making Norrington and Jack a ship was something I either didn't know I needed, or was something you knew I needed. Either way, I'm pretty damn glad it got sunk into my head.😂
"you scared the girl from star wars"
"that was Natalie Portman you dummy"
the way I freaking snorted at this omfg
Keira Knightley actually *was* in Star Wars, though. She played the handmaiden who disguised herself as Queen Amidala in The Phantom Menace.
Correct tailizorah - and they spelled her name incorrectly in the credits of Phantom Menace.
@@jliuatl how? :D
Sigh. You are being deceived. The Potc universe is yet again another twisted gospel version of the Bible where Beckett represents Jesus and is painted out to be the bad guy when he really isn't, and Jack, Pintel, Hector, Will, Elizabeth are the satanic rebellion in which you the audience are unknowingly supporting by siding against Beckett. Disney is satanic, it's time you all wake up. Look at the logo for the Endeavours flag, look at the death position of Beckett when he dies. Listen to the beginning of Potc 3 when they call Lord Beckett. Notice how the East Indian Trading Company is the ones who enforce the law, sounds similar to Jesus does it not? The East Indian Trading Company are the good guys, the Black Pearl and it's allies are the real bad guys. Even pay attention to when Tia Dalma says "Not of death, but punishment, the worst thing one can bring upon himself, stretching on forever, that's what awaits in Davy Jones locker" Fellas, she's literally describing Hell and they head straight into it in the glacier valley, notice the dark passage way. When they go past it they immediately are in darkness, in which a waterfall is the direction they are heading. The waterfall represents the fall into Hell, and yet Barbossa menacingly laughs while they are descending into it. The whole concept of Davy Jones locker is that Hell is this place of nothing where you go crazy, and can actually be saved by your fellow rebels. That's not biblical at all, wake up people! This is Satan's viewpoint on the war
Kassterlark Of The North ok mate
So basically I just watched a condensed version of the first movie, cool.
zah fares before april 2017 it wasnt illegal to watch movies on pages that uploaded the movie illegally (in germany). So i dont have many DVDs or BlueRays... but since then it is illegal. So thats the only way for me to watch pirates of the carrebean legally without buying it. (Which doesnt mean, I only watch it that way 😂👍🏻)
I made chocolate popcorn for this. It was like an intensive, but distanced version of the movie.
Creeps me out that norrington had known Elizabeth since she was a child.
Why?
Finally a comment that talks about this, he has to be oldish at the start, cause he's in the navy, so it's a bit weird
Grrr Grrr we can say he’s 20 there and she’s like 12. Yes at the time that’s super weird but when she’s older that’s only a 8 year difference which isn’t that bad
@@notadiary4911 i just think it's weird he was attracted to a girl that he knew as a child
@@zoeywomack6047 well back then combat age was 16, but hes in charge so hes prolly 20 to 22when shes like 12 so 8 to 10 years isnt that big of gap in that time. Yes its weird but the age isnt the weird part ( lol just noticed the lady above me said the same thing but i explained how he was in charge by 20 as hed been in the military awhile at least)
"Never leaves survivors? Then where do the rumors come from, I wonder."
The answer may well be Jack himself.
I also think one of the reasons they didn’t take part in... horrendous acts with Elizabeth is because Barbosa said for too long he couldn’t feel the warmth of a women’s chest. So eventually they stopped caring about it
Well Ragetti and the other dude where still perving to her as undead, so I dont think thats accurate lol
He said flesh not chest XD
I dunno man, they were pretty keen on doing something to her after recapturing her and before Will showed up on Black Pearl. Gotta remember that rape is less about the pleasure and more about dominating someone to the point of breaking them
I know this is a 2 year old video but at 29:15 when Norrington is holding the compass it’s probably pointing at jack because what he wants most is to arrest/kill Jack
Exactly. He loves his job, or at least wants to do it.
Either way, what is on his mind at all times is Jack!
@@Broockle I mean, okay you're right there.
Exactly what I was thinking.. Tho he might still wanna smash
Is everyone forget that people ship Jack and james
Best running joke ever! 28:42 / 29:49 / 38:34 / 48:46 / 50:11 / 51:13
The sped up music killed me
You know, he wants deaed pirates the most?
Lmao 😂
I'm currently at my office and I nearly choked myself to death trying not to burst out laughing. This is so hilarious!
They should actually get together in the next movie 😂😂
I always share this video, it is my favorite film essay. When I have a bad day I put this on, I will continue to come back. I appreciate your thoughts, your humor, and your your insight! I hope to see more content of your passions grow on your channel!!
Also, I am now on thr Norrington/Jack ship train, bless you
It's so werid that this video essay is so important lol it was my gateway drug into more video essays and I still remember my first time watching it. When I get stressed or I have to push thru a lot of work, I put this on in the background. It's crazy
You forgot the parallel of will at the end getting a big hat that barbosa wanted.
“Noringtion is such a Tsundere, but everyone knows Barbossa is best girl” best line in the video
It's also the most true line in the video. *Sax plays*
Pirates weren't cool in 2003? Someone obviously hasn't seen scooby doo on zombie island....
allard191 yees man i loved that one
allard191
that was one of the few scoob doo movies that legit scared me at that age.
allard191 captain hook is cool too
allard191 Hahahahahahaha you killed me with that
or one piece