Top Questions on owning an HDT for RV Life. (Should you do it?)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- ☞ 👀 We had the opportunity to meet Rob who is known as the Mayor of Margaritaville Auburndale. Owning an #HDT has many questions and we find the answers if you decide to make a change and go with an HDT to travel across the United States. #RVLife has many different aspects and finding the answers to start your journey can be a challenge.
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I almost skipped watching this video, as I thought "that's ridiculous". BUT MAN I couldn't have been more wrong. I really appreciate y'all taking the time to do this video. I had no idea all the perks of it (The price, the storage, flexibility, insurance). You've sent me down a rabbit hole now...
Thanks for watching and be careful -- It's a deep hole! We've been hanging out in it for a bit 😳😳🤣🤣
Rob has a nice unit. A little long for flexibility but he has the ability to bring a regular car. We've been fulltiming on the road for 7 years in an HDT. It's definitely not for everyone but it also doesn't really limit us. We've been to the Keys and to Alaska and volunteered in Yellowstone for the NPS. Talking to people like us would give you a more rounded perspective on the lifestyle. Oh well... maybe someday. Have a great huddle. Enjoy the road and safe travels. Aloha David
Yes, about 5'-6' longer than most. Ours is 32' long, towing a 45' 5er. You do the math. We've been down in Quartzsite for the last month with the HDT group, many different styles & sizes. Anyone interested should go to the West Coast HDT rally in Caldwell, Idaho or the National HDT rally in Hutchinson, Kansas. BTBT, Looking forward to crossing paths in the future, great videos. Stay Safe-Have Fun
@craigreuter8083 thanks, Craig. Stay safe. That would be fun to cross paths... a long as we don't do it at the same time! Lol 🤔😉🤣
Didn't know you watched our videos. Thanks! Down the road would love to meet up and hear your thoughts as well on the HDT choice.
@SwitchItUpLife well, of course. I'm also a subscriber and a meet on the road someday would be fantastic! Safe travels
@Big Truck Big Travels you need to come to our TN Huddle! Would love to meet you guys! We have a lot of fun!
We love Rob. He did us a huge favor during the huddle. Thanks again Rob!!
Ours is not that ummm fancy...we have a 2006 Mack, got 20k invested in it, new brakes, exhaust, some other stuff. We got the bed, hitch and new tires to go, figure we'll be into it for around 30k+/- when we're done. 100 gals fresh and 100 gals holding. Her name is Ouida Pearl, and she is a work in progress. Carries 200g of diesel, gets 10mpg..still tandem..we like her...a lot.
Brought back a lot of memories for Cheese and all the semi's he drove for 35 years....and now he is "Semi-Retired"! Good video, thanks!
FINALLY SOMEONE GOT THE BED CORRECT!!!! What a total sweet machine!!!!! Looks great wonderful design! Go HDT all the way!!!
I used to be a truck driver and I agree with everything said. I own a F350 diesel dually, and I rarely move my toyhauler, but if I were a full-timer, I’d definitely get a HDT. My fifthwheel Rv is 39’ long, and it’s already difficult to back it in my driveway with a pickup; with a semi tractor like this, the large wheelbase would definitely make it impossible to back my Rv into my driveway.
When I had my jayco I bought a cab over Mack restored it put in a air ride rear axel pulled that unit all over the country you can never have too much truck in the mountains! And you can buy a tractor with about 250K on it for a lot less than a new ton truck . I drove over the road for 30 years as a owner operator always felt good with no worries of a break down in that Mack .
I done it last year with 2016 Kenworth T680 with isx 15 cummins. It was the best money i ever spent.
Mind blown on the side door 👍👍👍
Interesting.... After 30 years of RV ownership from Bumper Pulls, Class A Motorhomes, and currently a 303 RLS Grand Design Fifth Wheel RV my first thought is as safe and wonderful this big rig is that the elephant in the room is space and campgrounds, and RV parks. We have traveled all over this great country several times and we live in the Sierra Mountains. Unless we were boon-docking in the desert where does the rig fit? How do you get to stay in an Oregon State Beach Campground or anywhere else beautiful Stanley Idaho another example. You are restricted to a few "hoity toity" RV Resorts surrounded by other RV's. How many times do you pull in someplace only to find that you have to turn around then what? In the western mountains and coast this rig a complete joke and not even close to practical at least not for a place you want to be. All of that smooth as silk ride and towing experience flys out the window when you arrive at a place you want to be only to find out it's not happening. Ridiculous to me but the beautiful part of living in America you get to decide.
I'd be concerned about limitations of where you can park it. But I do love the concept. I'd go with a Space Craft over this, but love this set up. We admired it while at Margaritaville & the Mayor is definitely a pioneer, an innovator. Great content !
With a Space Craft trailer you are still going to need an HDT to pull it.
Wow! Beautiful rig -we saw it at the huddle.
In a heart beatl!!!! I'm 30year retired truck driver and would not hit the road with anything else. But take a class on the basics of the truck its self.
This does give you something to think about! Interesting information.
My man Hollywood!! Great job pointing out the great differences. You’ll be doing Volvo commercials next!
My single axle cabover is shorter then my crew cab short box pickup!
This is the best way to go. The truck/semi dictates to the trailer, not the other way around. I drive these things interstate for 10 hours for work, and I can tell you when I drive my ute and caravan the same distance I'm stuffed. Also, as a truck driver, I would go Volvo the European know what they are doing. good luck with what you decide to do 👌👍🇦🇺
Thanks Kel for your feedback - that is very helpful
That Volvo is loooonnngggg.... A regular hdt set up kinda like what watts on wheels have would be much easier to handle. And man, that Thing is tricked right out. Really nice job on the frame stretch and the fairing panels fitment.. A whole lotta Dollars well spent
I've been researching the HDTs for a year now. Honestly the benefits out weigh any cons. Already told the wife we're getting an HDT when I retire.
Thank you for talking about owning a class #8 Semi versus a camper puller 1 Ton. I find with my 1971 SeaGrave Fire Engine 🚒 I can do the service on her easy, verses my 2021 Silverado Duramax
The 2 big Fuel filter and oil filter housings are under the engine. Just slide below Fire Engine and change them. The
8V-71 Detroit takes 7 gallons of oil. Never have had to bleed fuel ins on filter changes, just fill them up with clean Diesel one at a time, start engine, she has never sputtered or needed an air bleed. The 3 air filters are on top of the engine on the passenger side, very very easy to change. The stopping power with commercial air brakes pulling the lighter 5th wheel is amazing, and the Life on brakes using it to just pull RVs will go amazing longer. Plus with sleeper you basically have a mini RV in your cab, they are made for a trucker going cross country living in his truck. You did not show the porta potty on tour of cab, he had under bed in the sleeper, which is wonderful in itself. Being able to go as you drive down the road, then just take the holding tank off and dump in the toilet at any freeway rest stop. All the extra storage in and around the cab you are never getting that in a 1 Ton dually. With these newer class #8 semi's with the Automatic transmission, your wife or partner can easily learn to drive them. I have driven lots of FD engines with Allison push button auto trans you can just put in "D" and go. The newer Allison Automatics have a push button tranny check on the little screen. There is a book manual they give you that tells you every code fault, it tells you if the level of ATF is "OK" no need to even check the dip stick.
Do still love shifting my gears in the 71 SeaGrave I will admit. 😊😊😊😊 Love that "VOLVO" with extended single axil
Man, oh man!! I can see the wheels of ideas rolling. Can't wait to see you guys switch it up on us at a huddle someday and come rolling in, driving a setup like that. Switch it Up!!
Good luck getting into some campgrounds east of the Mississippi with that. Been there done that with a Kenworth T6 80 and a 35 foot fifth wheel. There were a number of campgrounds that didn’t even want us in with that heavy truck. It became soo much of a hassle that we purchased a 2022 F450 and never looked back. Just our perspective of that type of truck and camper combo. We were right at 65’ in length.
Thank you for your feedback and perspective
Wow! I had no idea about cost! Mileage etc. thank You for video! Keep them coming 👍
My wife and I are looking at fifth wheels. This video you did, was the best I’ve ever seen on a big truck and I learned so much. Could I do this at my senior age of retirement, it’s really a thought. You really opened up a lot of possibilities.
By the HDT, I would not recommend a Volvo. Love the mayor Margaritaville what a guy.
Great information! Thank you for sharing.
This is one of the most informative RV videos I've seen in a long time. I would never have known how relatively inexpensive this kind of setup could be. There seem to be some obvious drawbacks and I think I would feel a little self conscious about driving this rig into some of the parks I've been to, but for a particular cross country RV lifestyle I would definitely consider this. Great content!
Please don't take this in the wrong way. Don't know if it's a statement or an inquiry.
We hear all the time full timers making the same statement , " our schedule is so tight, don't know if ????". I'm not a full timer anymore because of health issues and my almost 91 year old mother who we live together. It's my home but it's also her home.
Certainly, you're going to have doctors appointments, dental appointments just have to be hear at a certain time , those you plan around. So all the rest is your time to relax enjoy life and the people you're around or move on. Ir say to each other , I'm tire of being here let's move on. And then decide on where to go. Somethings are seasonal those are a given . If driving along and see something on a Billboard that you want to see. You talk it over and you stop for a day or a week.
I know you get what I'm trying to say. I hope you don't take it the wrong way. Just asking.
Don
@@donwat91 Going with an HDT seems like a point A to point B sort of thing with minimal stops in between. A Class B or small Class C would be the ticket for the travelling style you described.
This guy Rob is somebody I'd like to grab a beer with. He's a hoot! Now, Rob, Todd and me going for a beer might be dangerous tho. Great video.
IF it has the emissions stuff- not wise to idle for long periods of time. The filters will become an issue. Look into an apu unit that can be tied into trucks fuel system n coolant n will keep your motor warm like if you staying at a cracker barrel overnight. There is a few different companies. Just do your research.
Rob, love the color and truck, Beautiful! If we were full timing it like you guys, I would Switch it Up! Kathy, maybe in trouble! Sheila could have that Jeep! Happy Wife, Happy Life!
Ran an HDT for 3 months and then moved to F450. The length was no fun in some parks out west. Had to park it away from the site some times due to space in site or had no space in my site with truck and 5th wheel. Hand to pay extra money for storage of the truck due to no room at site. Was best that we called for all reservations and told them our total length. Just was not for us
We ran our HDT set up for a year. it was always a hassle calling the campground and explaining to them what we had and if we would fit. Some campgrounds didn’t even want us on their property with that set up. The straw that broke the camels back was trying to get parked at a campground in Key West last year we decided to go with a 2022 F450. I never look back. In my opinion, having to deal with the Kenworth and a smart car piggybacked on the truck with a 35 foot fifth wheel was just too much.
@@skoffco assume that was Boyd's and they are tight. But a lot of guys take their HDT there, one actually lives there most of the year. To calling ahead, found out to never do that, because they will say no on the phone, but get there in person and point out that they allowed those big buses and they weigh more and they almost always say yes. Only time I have been told no was by a guy who hates truck drivers and he told me even if I had a pickup and he found out I drove truck for a living he would kick me off his property. Unless Ford really has changed things with newer trucks, can not believe it would out turn the HDT, I love my Ford pickup, but everything I own, except for my IH truck out turns it.
Clearly the writing is on the wall, can’t wait to join your journey of HDT shopping. 😅
At first I thought you bought that HDT! 😮🤣🤣. And from last year, you talked to the owner of another HDT, and found out that the cost comparison to your Ram truck as far as maintenance, less, and mpg about the same of 8-9 . Better value! 🥰❤️😇
I have a 88 Freightliner and asked RV dealers about using it to pull a RV and all of them said that the suspension would destroy the RV because it is like dropping the unit on the hitch on every bump on the road so I started building my own trailer so I wouldn't have that problem
Do it! You'll never go back. I promise ... Seems like a great guy...long winded, but a great guy.
Nice video "chicken foot" 🤣 I gotta get one of those!
Yes, Todd, Shiela come and joins us in the HDT World. We love our truck "Xtream", plus then you add our Grand Design Momentum 398m "by Design" then Cindy's little buggy "Passion".
And you get us Brian "Machine Gun Kelly and Passion Nana our cb handles. By the way Todd we bought our 2015 Volvo 780 for $24,000, Hitch was $4200, decking was $1900.
Safe travels and roads Brian and Cindy, "xtreambydesign with passion"
An interesting concept, looks like a good idea .Thank You.
As we all know, there are Pros and Cons to everything. For what it is worth, my opinion would be HDV. The cost to cost - longevity of vehicle - over all safety. The only down side I can see would be a little more research when looking at RV parks. Hmmmm. Switch it up?
Watched the video you did with Suite Travels. I thought you would be heading in that direction sooner or later!
Was shocked by the facts and figures. But I just don’t think I could get around the sheer size of the thing. It must be very limiting.
THAT WAS AWESOME!!!
Wow now that's definitely nice rig, Definitely would be a good rig for switching up to switch up to.
Why not 🤔
Actually meant to say would be a good rig to switch it
We have a mid size Freightliner and love it.
Sheila, my big question, as you were going down the road, did you feel like you could work? Because working back at that table looks a lot more productive than in the front seat of the Ram.
YES! Switch it Up!!! At 75 I would do it in a heartbeat if I could afford it!😂. HDT Awesome!!!!
DO IT, but definitely a BRONCO!!!!!!!
Man I would change the oil at 50 regardless.
To answer his question about how the weight ratings work… you get 12k for your steer axle, unless it’s upfitted for heavy haul, that truck isn’t. Then you get 18k for each drive or towing axle. So that truck is rated for 38k for the axles. But, then you have to factor in your pin configuration for balance and then the math really starts. You can’t have more weight on an axle than it is rated for. With what he’s hauling/pulling I’d be amazed if he’s anywhere close to ratings or scale requirements. With a DD16, I hope he’s running a 3.42 rear end or lower or it’s going to kill him in fuel mileage. FYI, even with a 3.42, most rigs set for actually pulling freight are averaging 5.5 mpg. I’d guess he’s somewhere around 7-7.5. Hope this was helpful.
Oh, and the length he’s talking about, if you want to look it up is called “FMCSA BRIDGE LAW”. That the national law, but each state also has their own limits. Safe way to look at it is no more than 43’ from king pin to center point of the tandems, aka the trailers axles.
Brian a single axle jumps to 20k for the drive and it is 34k combined for the regular tandem (17k per axle). Per steer axles, most, not all states give you 14k.
Even if you purchased a brand new Volvo plus a new Spacecraft on a semi trailer not a 5th trailer I doubt it would add up to one third the price of a pusher A class five-star newall etc at over 2 million . That guys long chassis is gross and overlong just to get a Jeep on the back is it worth all the problems that extra length will cause you long term. The ideal is to keep the Volvo as commercial so on resale it holds it price well just swopping the hitch only but keeping the commercial hitch in the garage to replace at a later date.
A ultimate truck that’s for sure!!
Excellent video!!!
yep ya need one!
Is there anyway you can get me in touch with Rob? Need some assistance with HDT mods. Thanks
This is a great vid and makes me want to get 1 and i dont even have an RV yet lol😂
Thanks for sharing this video
I told you so. I've been driving for 45 years and I wouldn't ever pull
A 5th wheel with a pick up.
If a person was going to buy one they would be better of buying one from a couple that retiring from RVing and usually the mileage thing is when they get 500 to 600 thousand miles is when they need an Inframe just check around
Think about the bridges and can you boondock?
This rig is a "Resort Queen" and the space required and weight on the resorts infrastructure make those places few and far between.
These HDT setups are far less weight than the big buses and everyone allows them. Per bridges, not sure how many places that would be an issue unless the campground is way off the beaten path. All new bridges, even in rural areas are built for more than 40 ton now. The weight of farm machinery is worse than 99% of trucks, unless it is a farmer with a semi, then they are almost always way over the limits.
Fascinating
Where did you get the bed work done
The real question in real time is...(its 6:45 EST) ....what t-shirt is Sheila wearing for the superbowl??? Bwahahaha.....rooting for KC
Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! Do it!! :D
If I were going to switch it up, I don't think it would be a Volvo.
And...now that dealership's are derating towing capacity of the Dodge Ram..etc. HDT IS IT! Problem solved 🤘🇺🇸 Plus they look cool! GO ON AND GET YOU ONE!🥰
Chicken foot... keep a eye out for Smokey Bear
Switch it up your getting your information from the wrong person! I am a former semi truck inspector, and other at trucking companies and former semi driver and motorcoach driver! Most semi trucks new are not $300,000 . Usually $200-250,00 and used reliable ones are not 40,000. The market price changes every year! Last year a lot of big companies bought new and loaded the market with used semi bringing prices down early late 2022 - some of 2023. Depending on demand for new will always change the market! A lot of big companies lease or buy and trade or sell around 400,000. Miles.The information he gave you about miles on semi compared to regular truck isn’t correct! Most semi trucks start needing major repairs at 500,000 and depending on engine type could be sooner! Research the engine types for common issues and the same engine in different year can be great or bad depending manufacturer changes! Most semi truck interiors don’t have the bench table combo and most don’t have large fridge! His semi interior package is not the most common and cost more! I would recommend Prevost Bus that was converted to Rv from new! 1998-2006 pre emissions for def fluid systems and the best series 60 Detroit engine! Buy a car trailer for vehicle! You can find many Prevost motorcoach buses with under 200,000 miles Ride great , Lots of space and lots of storage! Prices $75,000 -$350,00.
For me I see no use towing with todays overpriced pickup trucks. I have driven big trucks since 1986 so it’s going to be an HDT for me when the time comes!
There are permits that you can get from each state so you can be over 65 ft they're not that expensive 14 to $50 or so
Does not apply to private vehicles!
@@TonyBenton0728 you must have done more research then I did because that's not what I found
@@foreverfixin So where did you get your information ? There are several UA-cam channels that have HDT’s and don’t have permits to be over 65 feet Suite Travels ,Watts on Wheels and Big Truck Big Travels .I drove semi trucks for 41 plus years and we were over 65 feet and didn’t need a permit. Think about it any of the semi trailer’s on the road are 53 ft. add the tractor and you are over 65 feet.
@@TonyBenton0728 the only time the permit would help you would be after an accident 65 foot rule is only for a few States it's not for All 48 lower states there are states with different size rules anywhere from 75 ft 45 feet depending on the state or they Going to mess with you more than likely not unless there's an accident and if you are over the state's ruling on length guess whose fault it would be if there is an accident without a over length permit this information is on Google I would suggest looking up the restrictions per state if you were traveling through them with an over length rig I would not have made the original statement without doing the research these permits can be acquired Tony do some research and you will find out what I'm telling you is the truth
@@foreverfixin The over size permit only applies to commercial vehicles… Not private vehicles….And most of those are for the length of the trailer .I don’t need to google anything. Show me the sites the you are referring to. You are not telling the truth because you are incorrect. Where’s the proof?
That guy with the semi is giving you so much misinformation it's scary. 100K on a semi is closer to 20k-25K on a pickup(diesel). A million miles on a commercial truck is close to end of engine life. If you go 50,000 miles on an oil change plan on wearing out your motor 3 times as fast. 15K on an oil change + oil filters and fuel filters is fine, I used to change mine 10k-12k. Some companies do 20k on an oil change but they get rid of their trucks every 3 years. I've been in the trucking business over 40 years as an owner and I also RV a lot. 20k weight limit on the single drive axle, 34K on a tandem drive axles and 12k on your steer are the weights.
Go for it you know you want to lol
And if you haul anything on your truck you can to 70’.
48yrs of trucking all Trucks should be inspected By DOT for safety
Awesome video!!
Thanks!
C4yt
No Too Much $$$$$$$$
Would own one in a heart beat . After driving large trucks for 32 yrs and towing all sorts of equipment this would be my choice to pull a 3 axle rv if the cash flow would allow it to happen…lol……..love the extra length for storing his jeep on the back of the class 8 , unique design 😎☀️👍
My top question is what everyone wants to know... what exactly did that truck cost with all it's modifications....
If you are a little shorter in the leg than Todd you can get steps added to your truck or sent to you to add by RVHaulers with Gregg . He makes a step replacement that adds steps and makes it easier to climb in. At about 14:00 minutes the video titled "Never Rust Modular CANBed by RVHaulers" shows the steps. His channel also has a few years of RVHaulers to look at. Sheila there is a club of ladies that drive their RVHaulers, the videos are funny when the men admit they are not allowed to drive much anymore. The safety while towing 20k plus is a big reason to look at them. The truck can easily stop the 20K pound RV even if the trailer brakes failed. Be safe.
Absolutely loved this video. I have been searching for a truck since covid started and I screwed up thinking i had time not knowing covid would blow the market all to hell. now looking for used at price I could have had new for 2 years ago. This video way of explaining put it more relatable for understanding than so many others. Rob was great. You guys rocked on this one
Repairing a F350 size truck has gotten so expensive it would probably be cheaper to repair a HDT.Much more Fun to drive a HDT thanks
More and more parks are going to implements for the large bus and large 5th wheeler with the HDT. You could go with the smaller M class trucks that would have the performance but not all the features the large HDT would give you.
Guess he didn't know the RV rules for 65 feet overall........ some states are only 60 feet bumper to bumper.... just saying.... Someday they will clamp down on all of us!
Great video. Very informative. It's amazing though how many commercial drivers are trying to buy pre DEF rigs. My brother has a Freightliner that he continues to receive offers for that are significantly higher than what he paid for it nearly 20 years ago... and its not for sale!
Makes me think I should cancel my F-450 order. BTW: I'm starting to work on the charcuritery board.
if you dont stray off the paved roads i suspect the long wheelbase and low clearance wouldnt come up very often as problematic. most people are adverse to change so driving a hdt is never going to be an attractive option to them. i would just be a little concerned with the total length being illegal and what would happen if you were in an accident - police charges? insurance? being sued?
In photo he is aired down. you have just as much clearance as a regular RV . he did not say the big mirrors is a advantage. length is not much different from your 4 door 8 ft. bed 1 ton truck. do your research there is many different length frames on trucks. TRUCK PAPER, you are still allowed 80 ft. in full length with trailer. no one wants an accident , you are classed as RV. . .it would be the same as any other RV with pickup.. .. RIDING in STYLE with a SMILE. enjoy your time
Loved the video. Beautiful truck!! We also have an HDT. Unfortunately we need to sale it due to many personal issues. It is a 2014 Volvo D13. If anyone is interested please send me a message.
Omg. I want to travel with him. My dream come trie
you should switch it up
HDT with a Bronco…😎👍
I would say once you drive with one, you will never want to go back to the little dually. I love mine and would never pull with a pick up truck again. Love the videos you always share.
Very much enjoyed this video, as we do all of them, glad to see Todd slip into the driver's seat and try it out. As a class 8 driver for more than 30 years I fully understand why these trucks work so well for pulling rvs. That is a beautiful truck, but it would take me a while to get adjusted to an auto shift, I'd miss the other pedal and stick.
Great video with all kinds of info. Been a fan of Suite Travels for a couple of years and now I'm one of yours.. I wonder how that beast would pull my 6x10 cargo trailer conversion???? Save travels!!!
Awesome, thank you - glad to have you with us!
Volvo d16 rated at 600hp has major injector an injection cup problems. They quit making it.
MOST DEFINITELY. Don't care about rv parks. We are a OTR Team. Would rather be boondocking. And get away from all the crazy people and all the stuff they do to truck drivers. Not saying truck drivers are any better.
I Use too have A VLN870 Like that but was A Regular semi Truck company Driver
Hi Todd & Sheila we've been enjoying your channel since the first day you put it out when your interior vinyl fell down , We have caught every video since and love the way you both have such a good time . We wanted to a open a UA-cam channel last year but delayed on it I'm new at this and we are putting a few videos out now , just a start learning to work with cameras and lighting and our Wondershare Filmora would love you to view our channel and give some pointers on good, bad, ugly, also consider that our Jayco is in the shop for 2 months now . Thanks Linus & Dana Hitchin' Up & Movin' ON .
Great video and Rob has a gorgeous unit. We started full timing 3 1/2 years ago and it was our first RV experience. We were all set for a 1-ton dually and then came across the HDT in a video similar to this. Ours have the Smart car (which we bought a year before the truck as we finished our RV build), so it is a little shorter (29’), but the extra storage is amazing. The safety and comfort was the deciding factor for us and we never looked back.
Last year we did over 100 different stops, spanning parks, resorts, Harvest Hosts, national forest, etc. with zero issues or concerns.
Thanks for spreading the word and debunking some of the myths of great alternative.