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All aircraft have wing and wheel so is copied, you expect China to built aircraft like tank and no wing and how on earth is going create lift and then fly.
Excellent video. The analysis section made me laugh. "aircraft never says, I cannot transport the cargo because I am just a copy". and the design is hilarious.
It’s only superficial similarities on the outside. A lot of planes with similar roles will look the same. For example, you can’t take a part from the Y20 and use it on the C17. This analysis is amateurish 😅
Actually the design owes a lot more to Antonov, the AN-70 ( Forward fuselage and cockpit) and Illushin, the IL-76 (wing planform, engines and mounting pylons, but not the control surfaces) the tail looks a bit like a Mashup of the C-17 and IL-76.
Fun fact, China ordered around 80 IL76 from Russia in the earlier 2000s, due to the production line issue, they canceled the orders and returned the down payment with D30 engines. 😂😂
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The Y-20 and C-17 both have underwing engines, the C-17 uses jet flaps, and the Y-20 uses conventional large-area flaps. As the core design of an aircraft, the wings of these two transport aircraft are different. Before you say that the Y-20 plagiarizes the C-17, would you like to use your brain to do some homework?
They copy because the US sets a standard so thats what they doing. All cargo have the wings mounted up high and a T-tail. The engines look more like the IL-76 uses with a front fuselage looks like a 787 Dreamliner in the front fascia.
Soviet aircraft were designed in Russia and produced in ukraine. There were a lots of ukrainian engineers moved to China after the 2000s, however they were all from eastern ukraine, because thats where the military industrial complex were. It was the current ukrainian government ended all the collaborations.
Like most of its other weaponries, Y-20 LOOKs better than it is. Just look at its engine spec/performance and the the configuration of how the engines are mounted in related to the flaps ... let alone those interior / avionics we couldn't see... it looks like C-17 from distance but the capabilities are far behind comparing with C-17.
@@jahidjesan2067 Short version: Compared to the C-17, the is Y-20 is smaller, has a lower internal volume, carries 11t less over the same unrefuelled distance (Y-20 has no in-flight refuelling ability), cruising 200kph slower with a relatively limited short/rough field performance and a relatively poor 'hot and high' performance. China's build themselves an improved Il-76MD-90 with some asthetics of the C-17-- and there's nothing wrong with that, the Y-20/Il-76 are very useful aircraft, but they're not in the same class as the C-17. Comparing the Y-20 to the C-17 is like comparing a C-130J to the A400M.
This 'it's a C-17 copy' garbage is amateurish. The Y-20 has the same rough size and dimensions as the Il-76MD-90, with only slight improvements to range and payload capacity. China built themselves a better Il-76MD with knowledge gleaned/hacked/acquired (whatever) from the C-17 and other US military programs. That is it. Comparing the Y-20 and C-17 as though they're near peers just because they share **some** visual characteristics is as dumb as 'WiCh iZ bEtTeR, F-14 oR f-22' arguments you see from War Thunder 'experts'. The Y-20 is **NOT** in the same class as larger C-17.
You're right brother. If anything, claims of Y20 copying should be attributed to its original lineage IL-76 since China procured them in bulk and didn't have access to C-5 and C-17s.
The Chinese are very developed, the community of G-7 states (777 million inhabitants) is already in ruins and will soon be just a bad memory, the community of BRICS states (4.5 billion inhabitants) has incredible resources and unlimited energy, they have the latest innovations too, they have the future. (NATO has no chance if this Anti-NATO community with 4.5 billion citizens forms its own united military community) 🤔
Before the war, Japan paid a proper "license fee" (due to bad relations between the Imperial Army and Navy, they paid "double" the license fee for DB601). Of course, we still pay today. 戦前の日本はちゃんと”ライセンス料”を支払いましたよ（帝国陸、海軍の仲が悪かったので、DB601には”2倍”のライセンス料を支払っています）。もちろん現代でもお支払いしております。
What's even to say about this aircraft? It hauls stuff. It needs better engines. It has flown to Serbia. It can be the basis of other specialized aircraft. What else is there to say?
I am hearing the same for more than a decade that Chinese are copying the highly sensitive American defence hardware. Btw what are American defence companies doing to stop it? Any plans?
Intellectual property violations between superpower countries and armies don't exist. Every country does spying and espionage. Only weak countries cannot do what China does so they can only complain and cope. If you're strong you will defend your systems and technology from espionage. Otherwise you can only cry. That's the name of the game.
@@benwilson6145that is the question, how much row did antonov actually plays in the y20 and y9 program, now united states claim Chinese spy hicked Boeing, and also Chinese it self claims they got help from antonov while developing y20, and got help from karmov while developing z10, so what row do these out sources information actually plays in this program from aero dynamic aspect, the y20 is more clearly a modified IL76 the wing and the basic structure be easily indicate as a modified IL76, however Y20 play the row of C17, mostly do not transport a real tank but has the ability to transport a real tank in case something happens so how much information actually did boeing leaked, and what information did Boeing leaked and also, didn't Boeing leaked something more?
Boeing never lost data to Chinese hackers 😂😂😂 espionage was never done whole Blackhawks is copied by china actually usa went in future by time machine and copied Chinese z20😂😂
Obviously the engines are from the 60ies with low bypass ratio. If they can refit with at least 80ies engines they can use the free room from less fuel consumption to give the market a viable low cost alternativ to western transport planes. Before they can produce a plane on par with western planes, they need to develop a modern engine. Not sure if they made any progress though. The J20 engine is an old concept from the CF56.
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All aircraft have wing and wheel so is copied, you expect China to built aircraft like tank and no wing and how on earth is going create lift and then fly.
Excellent video. The analysis section made me laugh. "aircraft never says, I cannot transport the cargo because I am just a copy". and the design is hilarious.
请继续笑下去🤭
It’s only superficial similarities on the outside. A lot of planes with similar roles will look the same. For example, you can’t take a part from the Y20 and use it on the C17. This analysis is amateurish 😅
Actually the design owes a lot more to Antonov, the AN-70 ( Forward fuselage and cockpit) and Illushin, the IL-76 (wing planform, engines and mounting pylons, but not the control surfaces) the tail looks a bit like a Mashup of the C-17 and IL-76.
Fun fact, China ordered around 80 IL76 from Russia in the earlier 2000s, due to the production line issue, they canceled the orders and returned the down payment with D30 engines. 😂😂
Another less-known aircraft, at least from the European perspective. Thank you
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The Y-20 and C-17 both have underwing engines, the C-17 uses jet flaps, and the Y-20 uses conventional large-area flaps. As the core design of an aircraft, the wings of these two transport aircraft are different.
Before you say that the Y-20 plagiarizes the C-17, would you like to use your brain to do some homework?
Good work
Make about agtms, c90 rocket launcher, matador atgm,pf-98
isn't China supercomputer also called Kunpeng or something like that
Nah, the best supercomputer in China nowadays is actually called Sunway Taihulight or 神威·太湖之光, which is even more mythical to me than Kunpeng.
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They copy because the US sets a standard so thats what they doing. All cargo have the wings mounted up high and a T-tail. The engines look more like the IL-76 uses with a front fuselage looks like a 787 Dreamliner in the front fascia.
Those engines look like they came from 1957.
Yep, not exactly high-bypass😅
The way you analyze stuff make me think you probably have managed some real R&D projects.
Using a relational database management system 😂😂😂
The zero was NEVER supperior to anything.
Looks like c-5m super Galaxy lol
Chinese products is well advance versions of US.
lol
Ain’t it amazing even though copy and perform better than the original one.
Wellll, justifying copying aside, they could at least give us retroactive licensing fees. I’m holding my breath.
We are not justifying, it is just reality.
Way should them is not like you give them the know-how and the us also copy a lot of tings.
Ukraine help China for this aircraft i think
Soviet aircraft were designed in Russia and produced in ukraine. There were a lots of ukrainian engineers moved to China after the 2000s, however they were all from eastern ukraine, because thats where the military industrial complex were. It was the current ukrainian government ended all the collaborations.
Like most of its other weaponries, Y-20 LOOKs better than it is. Just look at its engine spec/performance and the the configuration of how the engines are mounted in related to the flaps ... let alone those interior / avionics we couldn't see... it looks like C-17 from distance but the capabilities are far behind comparing with C-17.
capabiliies you say? mind if you mention them here?
@@jahidjesan2067 Short version: Compared to the C-17, the is Y-20 is smaller, has a lower internal volume, carries 11t less over the same unrefuelled distance (Y-20 has no in-flight refuelling ability), cruising 200kph slower with a relatively limited short/rough field performance and a relatively poor 'hot and high' performance. China's build themselves an improved Il-76MD-90 with some asthetics of the C-17-- and there's nothing wrong with that, the Y-20/Il-76 are very useful aircraft, but they're not in the same class as the C-17. Comparing the Y-20 to the C-17 is like comparing a C-130J to the A400M.
This 'it's a C-17 copy' garbage is amateurish. The Y-20 has the same rough size and dimensions as the Il-76MD-90, with only slight improvements to range and payload capacity. China built themselves a better Il-76MD with knowledge gleaned/hacked/acquired (whatever) from the C-17 and other US military programs. That is it. Comparing the Y-20 and C-17 as though they're near peers just because they share **some** visual characteristics is as dumb as 'WiCh iZ bEtTeR, F-14 oR f-22' arguments you see from War Thunder 'experts'. The Y-20 is **NOT** in the same class as larger C-17.
Copying a functioning aircraft is not making a xerox copy
it doesn’t matter. we are a society of laws
@@andrulifts donde estan las reglas ahora?
I understand china does not follow intellectually property laws because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain@@fernandoferreira-do8vh
@fernandoferreira-do8vh
International law prohibits industrial espionage and producing unlicensed copies.
@andrulifts
Loopsided Laws that's only benefited WHITEMAN Countries?.
las cosas no son del dueño si no de quien las necesita, si es copia o no a nadie le importa, solo importa que haga su trabajo
Huh. First. First time ever. Admittedly, was 20hrs early by mistake, but still.
I thought I’d feel differently.
I'd like think the Y-20 as the better IL-76. How the IL-76 should have look like in this mordern times
if you look closely they are pretty similer
You're right brother.
If anything, claims of Y20 copying should be attributed to its original lineage IL-76 since China procured them in bulk and didn't have access to C-5 and C-17s.
Good video and even better editorial.
Please make a video about the Y-9 aircraft.
Looks more like a c141 star lifter than a C5 to me.
Closer to C 17 actually...
Looks like neither.
@@downtomars6268White Americans can't think beyond the borders except for considering blacks as Africans but themselves as Americans
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Totally different high wing and better aerodynamics than C-17.
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it is only copying if the knowing dont want to share the knowledge. if they share it is called learning
it has 2 wings , so it must be copied or stolen from the west right ?😂😂
The Chinese are very developed, the community of G-7 states (777 million inhabitants) is already in ruins and will soon be just a bad memory, the community of BRICS states (4.5 billion inhabitants) has incredible resources and unlimited energy, they have the latest innovations too, they have the future. (NATO has no chance if this Anti-NATO community with 4.5 billion citizens forms its own united military community) 🤔
Best laugh I've had all day! 🤣
Before the war, Japan paid a proper "license fee" (due to bad relations between the Imperial Army and Navy, they paid "double" the license fee for DB601). Of course, we still pay today.
戦前の日本はちゃんと”ライセンス料”を支払いましたよ（帝国陸、海軍の仲が悪かったので、DB601には”2倍”のライセンス料を支払っています）。もちろん現代でもお支払いしております。
What's even to say about this aircraft?
It hauls stuff. It needs better engines. It has flown to Serbia. It can be the basis of other specialized aircraft. What else is there to say?
Ukrainians helped designed the landing gears?
I am hearing the same for more than a decade that Chinese are copying the highly sensitive American defence hardware.
Btw what are American defence companies doing to stop it? Any plans?
I prefer the KC-390. it's prettier
going back to pre colonial times is a very weird way to justify modern day industrial espionage and intellectual property violations
IKR...that was a pretty impressive logic pretzel...the word 'develop' and certain PRC creations should be used _very_ sparingly.
llora
Intellectual property violations between superpower countries and armies don't exist. Every country does spying and espionage.
Only weak countries cannot do what China does so they can only complain and cope. If you're strong you will defend your systems and technology from espionage. Otherwise you can only cry. That's the name of the game.
I don't think that there will be anyone in a war looking at the IPR violations by a warring party either.
copy of C17 - thanks Antonov
I didnt know Antonov designed the C17
@@juhao356Chinese boys every where defending copycat china u better see there helicopter fleet of copied Blackhawks and European firms
@@benwilson6145that is the question, how much row did antonov actually plays in the y20 and y9 program, now united states claim Chinese spy hicked Boeing, and also Chinese it self claims they got help from antonov while developing y20, and got help from karmov while developing z10, so what row do these out sources information actually plays in this program
from aero dynamic aspect, the y20 is more clearly a modified IL76
the wing and the basic structure be easily indicate as a modified IL76, however Y20 play the row of C17, mostly do not transport a real tank but has the ability to transport a real tank in case something happens
so how much information actually did boeing leaked, and what information did Boeing leaked
and also, didn't Boeing leaked something more?
MIG31 was the inspiration of F15
Put them side by side and you see the copying shamelessly
Boeing never lost data to Chinese hackers 😂😂😂 espionage was never done whole Blackhawks is copied by china actually usa went in future by time machine and copied Chinese z20😂😂
Obviously the engines are from the 60ies with low bypass ratio. If they can refit with at least 80ies engines they can use the free room from less fuel consumption to give the market a viable low cost alternativ to western transport planes. Before they can produce a plane on par with western planes, they need to develop a modern engine. Not sure if they made any progress though. The J20 engine is an old concept from the CF56.
Google WS-20, high bypass and already in service, this video is a very superfactial take and out of date.
nation of thieves,. good vid as usual though
Did you mean West?
Great Britain?