1996 U.S. 500 at Michigan International Speedway | INDYCAR Classic Full-Race Rewind
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Bold IndyCar... very bold.
That's what I was thinking
Well, the guy who was running CART is pretty much the guy running Indycar now... ;) ;)
This is the equivalent of the NBA UA-cam channel posting a 1080p version of The Malice at The Palace
Well done. Respect.
That’s a great comparison I agree
Nah, it's worse, this is like the NBA posting a big match where the ABA could've faced them but instead failed to meet expectations
I can't even believe they uploaded this! LMAO
Comments should be fun, David
This is like if NASCAR uploaded 1969 Talladega or 2008 Indianapolis or something.
@Nitro Junkie Wouldn't exactly say that personally.
@Nitro Junkie Oh okay yeah I didn't like 2020 much though aside from Chase winning the title
@Nitro Junkie i still remember the 1996 start crash in indycar.
Mad props IndyCar. Preserving history. The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Wow I’m surprised at the sheer bravery y’all have for uploading this
It's not like Penske owns Indycar or anything 🤷♂️ why not?
they own indy car not cart, i feel like the early years of indy car till 2000 are fine as they are grey zones from sure its indy car but cart cars
As a History Major in college I respect them. To deny or erase history means you will be doomed to repeat it.
@@giafoneozu9998 Part of the 2008 merger deal was Indycar purchasing Champ Car and the history of the series which includes the CART days.
The 90s probably were the peak of Indycar, beautiful cars, high speeds, multiple manufacturers in engine tires and chassis, and running at these superspeedways
However according to Tony George and the IRL nuts at that time IMS and the Indy 500 were the big deal but CART every race was a big deal. However CART was making money in the 80s and 90s. I’m glad that the Hulmans got out of Indycar after Mari Hulman died.
If they tried to at least be a bit safer, they probably would have survived longer, Greg Moore’s accident turned people away from cart on ovals
these cars looked horrendous.
Next on IndyCar youtube race replays: the 2001 Firestone Firehawk 600!
LMAO that was awesome 🤣
Hell yeah. I was stoked to see that race. I was watching qualifying, and thinking, "Holy shit those cars are MOVING!" I still cant believe that they did reduce boost pressure to slow those cars down at the track. I am not sure if they ran test prior. It probably would have been a literal blood bath if that race went ahead.
Or even better: the 2011 Indycar race at Las Vegas
As much as I like Paul page I don't want to hear him talk for an hour while showing teams packing up equipment.
@@darknessesdarknesses2492 They did not test prior. That was part of what caused the whole catastrophe, because the track owners wanted them to test.
You could feel in Letterman’s pre race interview that he was uncomfortable. The Indianapolis 500 is much more than just a race, and despite the CART/IRL differences at the time, you can just tell in his face that it felt wrong being there and not Indianapolis that day
If you want to just watch racing and skip... you know, the silliness... 45:45 is your friend.
Maybe the 96 Indy 500 was better than the 96 US 500, but we'd all be a lot better off if both races had been part of the same series.
This is probably one of the only races that I want to watch all of the prerace stuff. Thanks anyways, though!
The end of Indy car racing as we know it thanks to Tony George i will say this he wanted an oval racing series i did agree with him there but it ruined Indy car!
I know why most people will see this race, but take a moment to admire Bob Varsha's words in the first 3 & 1/2 minutes... Very nice.
yes but then came the start and basically everything he said went to the trash....
Hyping up all the talent and then... CRASH! I remember watching this live and just shaking my 14-year old head...
this race is what made me an IRL fan. after this race CART had no credibility left.
Indycar might be on the uptick 100% but the fact remains the stands are nowhere near filled.
It’s a beautiful thing to see these amazing machines but more importantly the fans and the buzz around the series
As ugly as everything about this race was, I’m glad they posted it. It’s an important part of American Open Wheel history.
Agree
We need the 1996 Indy 500 from the HQ tape from ABC.
I was sitting in the front row in turn 4 when this happened right in front of us. Got pelted with little pieces of fiberglass and metal that went into the stands. In those aluminum stands it sounded like it was hailing. Wildest thing I ever saw in racing.
I must have been sitting right next to you.I was probably a little closer to the start/finish line as I didn't get hit with any debris.
This is a crash between men. The best in their sport.
Their race is not political. It isn't between teams, or cars, or sponsors. Their race has nothing to do with tradition, history, and TV ratings. It isn't decided in headlines, or boardrooms. It is a race that only they can create, and it cannot go on without them. It is 500 miles that won't even exist until the first of these men crosses the finish line. For this is a contest between men, he best in their sport, and it is defined by speed, time and distance, not the place, not the track. It is a race between their fears and their dreams, and that race belongs to no one but them.
19:45. Almost started crying. That was the only interview I have found on Jeff Krosnoff. Rest In Peace. Never forgotten
I hear you 🥺
2:19:34 also
This 1996 IndyCar at Michigan looks epic.
Honestly... Bring back Michigan!!!
Ok now upload the 96 Indy 500. I dare you.
Would be better than watching this crapshoot
There was video of it somewhere online before, and I enjoyed watching it.
@@keyboardwarrior327 Like this?
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@DavidLand's not kidding. I'd love to see Buddy Lazier's first indycar win, myself.
HEY! Calm down Daivd. It took a quarter of a century of this one to get uploaded lets just be happy with this for now lol :P
My favorite story from this race was years ago I asked Bob Varsha if he had any memories of this race. And his response was "Sure I do. It began and ended with a bang"
Never thought F1 commentator James Allen did Indycar
He also did Eurosport’s review of the 1996 season along with Mark Blundell
I remember James commenting on F1 ITV he was brilliant
Bold of IndyCar, but I’m not complaining haha
There's a certain irony that Roger Penske used to own this track at the time.
uhhh he's only owned it since January last year, for sure not a quarter of a century ago......
@@sennadesillva penske owned Michigan international speedway
@@sennadesillva you should probably watch the first 3 minutes of the video, kid...
Penske was 100% a CART guy but IRL eventually got more and more money :-(
@@DanArnets1492 from the Brickyard 400 and the booming NASCAR at the time however the IRL bankputed the Hulmans in the end and why they sold it to Penske after Mari Hulman died.
Very historic.
The beginning of the end of CART.
10:22...........................oh how true those words were.
Not for me, I didn't care about IRL.
@@mariop8101 Next to nobody did.
The beginning of the end for indycar. Blame Tony George for all this. Indycar at the time was a real rival series to F1 and if it had stayed united, would have gone global in a big way. The racing and cars were awesome.
No blame Andrew Craig.. he had ZERO interest in ovals
Don’t forget France and Ecclestone. They saw the threat CART was and encouraged Tony George to create his own series.
ah the summer of 96, when the beer flowed like wine.
Thanks Indycar for the upload.
I remember watching this race with my grandfather and seeing the replay of the major crash that involved nearly the entire field as the cars were approaching the green flag for lap number *ONE.* This only shows how doomed the US 500 was competing against the Indy 500 from the start...literally.
Drove up from Cincinnati. Stayed with my brother in Ypsilanti. They were ripping!
2:24:52 creepy to see Moore spin to the infield like that.
Yes,very similar to Fontana... Maybe a no coincidencial behavior from the car...
@@MrUnbekannter111 he kept his foot in the throttle a lot when he spun trying to keep it off the wall... (or so Ive read) it worked a lot of time, Fontana not so much.
How did Indycars go from these beautiful speed beasts to the hideous things we have now?
The split happened
5:15 Bob Varsha makes the case that the tradition has moved to Michigan. This is all well and good, except they moved it to St Louis.
8:00 This is the first CART race to have pits close when the yellow comes out
10:45 Jimmy Vasser wrecks the whole field
19:45 Jeff Krosnoff interview
36:00 Greg Moore interview
47:15 Race start
57:30 Scott Pruett interview. Doesn't mention his family at home
1:39:30 Scott Brayton tribute
2:19:00 Jeff Krosnoff interview
2:24:50 Greg Moore sends a cameraman running for his life
3:01:45 Vasser is at the tail end of the lead lap when Herta's engine lets go. Jon Beekhuis finds Ganassi running towards the Rahal pit, asks him about it, and Ganassi says he's just going to wish them luck
3:10:10 Greg Moore interview
3:18:30 Race deciding moment
"Scott Pruett interview. Doesn't mention his family at home"
Varsha said that because he was the voice of CART on ESPN at that time.
These cars were aesthetics as f*ck!
Auditory too!
Wow!
The broadcast master tape , high quality version... Nice!
Also, "Bold strategy Cotton..."
You could see in the driver's faces during the pre race shots that they realized they weren't at indianapolis where they should have been. Still an awesome race!
Cart. Fools. Proven. Indy is the center of the universe. It strikes again.
all these years later, and I still kind of chuckle at the 'start' of the race
I've seen the race I'm here for the comments
Tony George: Indy500 on my newly formed IRL calendar
CART: Guys, held a 500 mile race at Michigan
"So what's it like filming Motorsports?"
Camera Man: 2:24:43
Everybody gangsta until you wad up half the field
Jeff Krosnoff would unfortunately only live for 2 more months after race...
Such a savage accident. JK was an alround nice guy apparently. Very tragic era of US open wheel racing.
RIP Krosnoff
That's a magnificent pace car right there!
I Always Open-Wheel Racing. A Dangerous Sport, But I Enjoy Watching Those Drivers Travel At Over 225-230mph. Thrilling.
still better than watching a field of mostly amateurs cosplay as indycar drivers #FTG
Yep, IRL 1996-1999 was maybe the single worst sports league in history to be televised nationally
Bring it back
*gets popcorn* comments should be fun tho
Part 3 of nascarman's AOWR split documentary is coming this Saturday, by the way... (already Saturday in UTC+7 btw).
There are days that the energy inthose Irish hills is just right.
I recall having cable TV in the 1990s, but it must have been after this race, as I wasn't aware this race was televised.
Hhhmmm! Looks like ABC-TV had a lock on the open-wheel races for that day; for not only was the Indy 500 televised live, but for those that weren't aware: ABC-TV (US . . . not to be confused with Australia) has owned ESPN since 1984.
Well.....still better than TG and his IRL
Problem is, the Indy 500 was very good that year. If they had the 1997 Indy 500 in 1996... maybe history would have been different.
Nah, the 500 was great, the irl had such great races and drivers. You got in the garage and you could talk to team owners and drivers like they were old friends.
@@Ericb1980 - Yeah, because they were a bunch of amateurs - IRL 1996-1999 is probably the single worst sports league ever put on national television.
@@DanArnets1492 lol no
@@DanArnets1492 As opposed to this joke of a race, and then CART in that same period had Krosnoff killed at Toronto, Marquez at Laguna Seca and Moore at Fontana? For all the yapping about how unsafe the IRL was, no one was killed in any of their races in this era and you had some great competitive races as opposed to what I'd been forced to endure with pre-split CART and getting a perpetual liver or fish choice of either Penske or Haas domination.
Yeah,this was the best for me to. Best cars best races everything awesome.
Don’t let this disaster of a race distract you from the fact that CART kicked ass until 2001. Best era of open-wheel racing, too bad Tony George just couldn’t let it be
Still did after 2001. Sure it wasn't the same like CART but the cars, races, venues were still awesome.
2002 was the final great year
His mom mari Hulman played a part in it to Tony George sold the track after his mom died.
Ha!!!!😜
This is like NASCAR posting the 2008 Brickyard 400 to their channel
On another note I can’t believe there’s no catch fence on back straight - roger did fumble on the oval design (wall at Fontana for Greg Moore)
They put it in a couple of years later finally.
I'm sure the US 500 and CART would be viable operations to this day if Fernandez just learnt how to keep his goddamn car STRAIGHT coming to a green flag.
Such a blatent move you have to check his bank account to see if he wasn't paid by Tony George to sabotage CART's big day :-p
Vasser was too close to Adrian. Jimmy was insanely arrogant.
@@mistertheking nah if you look at it all the other rows had that formation. Fernandez started moving down and clipped Jimmy's wheel starting one of the most famous pile ups in indycar history
It was vassar who was at fault
@@grahamkeeton6643 How can he be at fault when he didn't move? The drivers on inside and outside positions on the rows behind them were on the same lines and they didn't crash.
Agree on the mistake from Fernandez, but not sure CART's destiny depended on it. They made big management mistakes in the later years, and once Ganassi then Penske were welcomed back at Indy the writing was on the wall.
I was at the Indy 500 that day. It was the beginning of the end. I only attended 1 more 500 after that race, and that was after the merger. In my eyes the split ruined open wheel racing in North America . Something they are still trying to repair.
funny how the 2005 US Grand Prix almost caused a split between the FIA and FOCA, Indianapolis is a divisive race
@@truedarklander with Tony George in still charge of IMS at the time as well. By the way I wonder what TG is up to these days in Indy ?
@@robertmusgrave9236 Tony George is looping his VHS cassettes of the 1997 IRL season all day and when asleep he's still having nightsmares about CART people winning the crapwagon Indy 500s in 2000 & 2001. :-D
@@armorgeddon that is why some IRL races aren’t on here yet
Time to put up the 1996 “IRL” Indy 500 as well in the same quality as this is in.
The madlads actually did it!
Sad that things worked out this way. Should have called the IRL's play on the 25 8 rule and left the fans angry at the IRL for why several of the best cars weren't allowed to run.
Or cart could’ve ran with the irl for all of their races like was planned, but they decided to pitch a fit and schedule other races over those so teams couldn’t do both.
@@Ericb1980 Exactly. They could have in effect bought a whole year of extra negotiating time by racing at Disney World and Phoenix in the first "short season" of the IRL but instead they forced the issue by deciding to make it impossible for anyone to run both series that year.
Enjoyed, thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's hard to believe this race was 26 years ago.The accident happened right in front of me at the start and seemed to doom CART's effort to stage a competitive race the same day as Indianapolis.Not so.Although many IRL fans seemed to take pleasure in the bungled start and crowed about Buddy Lazier's exciting win at Indy,anyone can see Michigan was a far better race once they got going.There wasn't a pass for the lead at Indy until Lap 169 when Alessandro Zampedri had passed Davy Jones...One only needs to look at the re-start at Michigan at 3:05:15 to see the difference.Because of all the exciting pack racing one now sees at Indy ,or the incredible CART races with the Hanford device at Michigan and Fontana in the ensuing years,it's easy to forget how much of a milestone the first U.S. 500 was at the time.I had simply never seen 7,8,9 cars nose to tail in formation at the front before this race.Even when Zanardi had pulled out a little bit of a lead,there was an amazing amount of dicing going on directly behind him..It should have been a 5 or 6 car shootout as Herta,Moore,and Ribeiro all broke at the very finish.Johnstone and Blundell also suffered bad luck.The race finished at about 6 p.m. and with the overcast skies it was dark in no time as I drove back to Indiana.Good memories and this is a high quality upload.
CART bashed the IRL over the 25/8 rule as unfair (which admittedly was a bad idea). But in their race, a guy who causes a crash before the flag drops is somehow under CART rules allowed to start a backup car in the same position and still win the race?? You can't do that at Indy (see Roberto Guerrero-1992) and frankly the fact this was possible under CART rules made them hypocrites of the first order and confirmed my instinct that they were all about looking after the elite teams because only an elite team could do that kind of switch on short notice (and not even make him start from the back of the field??). I never watched another CART sanctioned event after I saw how Vasser stole a victory he wasn't entitled to since his day should have ended when he wrecked at the start.
@@epaddon Everyone was allowed to re- start if they had a back-up car...You are exceptionally ill-informed.They hadn't received the green flag when the accident happened.I agree it was a probable bending of the rules,but I doubt you can quote the CART rules for 1996 and neither could I.The greatest races I EVER saw anywhere (including Indy) were 3 of the 4 CART Hanford device races at Michigan (1998,2000,2001) If you never watched another CART race,it was your loss.There is no getting around the fact that the Indy 500 was scab race for 5 years,as evidenced how Juan Montoya throttled the IRL drivers at the 2000 500.
Never seen this. Thanks for the upload.
damn this race was.... special
R.I.P. Moore
Rip Carl Haas, Paul Newman, Pat Patrick...
...Jeff Krosnoff
ADORO ESSA CORRIDA!!!!!
Races are made by drivers, cars and teams, not the tracks. Indy 500 that year was a bad joke. This was the true 500 mile race of 1996.
The Indy 500 was good that year
@@ty50bmg11 With a bunch of nobody's, in a slow car series.
Nah. The track makes the drivers
Name me ONE Indy 500 where it's possible for someone to crash on the pace lap and get a chance to put a car he didn't qualify in back into his starting position and win a race that he should have been ruled out of. Vasser is the most bogus "winner" of a 500 mile race there ever was.
4 years later .... Ganassi back at Indianapolis
Uhhh did they just post this
Yes, they did.
History Will Be Made...... YES IT WAS!!! Crash before the start.
6:30 hi to my family at home
AND WE HAVE A CRASH IN TURN 4
RIP GREG MOORE ... talent talent talent
Mauricio Gugelmim, Roberto Pupo Moreno e André Ribeiro em segundo, terceiro e quarto lugares na US 500
bold to upload this Indycar
Bons tempos! Nessa época a Cart incomodava muito a F1 em termos de popularidade.
Lá fora não sei mas aqui no Brasil era pau a pau!
Foi uma categoria muito apreciada pelos fãs, e promovia uma concorrência bacana entre Globo, com a F1, SBT, com a CART e Band, com a IRL 😃
@@nettoflorestal Também não tenho certeza quanto a popularidade da Cart na Europa e Ásia. Mas recordo que rolava uma treta dos dirigentes da Fórmula 1 confabulando com o pessoal da FIA, pra dificultar a organizações de GPS da Cart nos continentes citados. Lembro disso vagamente... Cart tinha potencial pra crescer. E o que me chamava atenção era a quantidade de motores e fabricas pneus na categoria, sei que os custos são diferentes,mas atraiam muito mais que a F1.
@@Luizao004 Bons tempos! Pena que a partir de 2000 a SBT não deu o tratamento devido.
@@TheSilvio1984 Aqui em Portugal começou em 1993 com o Nigel Mansell as corridas davam live na SIC. Foi a partir daí que comecei a seguir.
What's next? The conclusion of the 1996 IRL race at Las Vegas that only the West saw?
Yeah, good luck with that one.
Should have went to Indy. Insane
And after this race nothing bad ever happened in CART and Indy Car ever again...the end
Texas 1997, Texas 2001, Surfers Paradise 2002, Indianapolis 1997, Las Vegas 2011, Charlotte 1997...?
"Noting bad"?
@@Yoshik379 I was being sarcastic…jeez
@@Yoshik379 you forgot Fontana 1999, Laguna Seca 1999, Michigan 1998, Pocono 2015 and 2018.
@@fueldragster I always question the IQ of people who don't get sarcasm. 🙄
@@Yoshik379 racings racing man people die its part of the sport just no one wants to admit that just like cte and brain damage is apart of boxing and football
Why can't I find his final race at Michigan? I was at that race and his engine blew before he finished but what I really wanted to find out is if they had the video of the entire race. I was 11 and witnessed a wreck and the tire went bouncing through the crowd. That scarred me for life and I wanted to put it to rest by seeing it again.
RIP Greg Moore... RIP Jeff Krosnoff...
The US 500 was created when CART lost the Indy 500 to the New IRL (the IRL was cheaper to operate)
They only ran this actual race this one time.
Beginning in 1997 they just changed the name of the Michigan 500 to the U..S. 500.
Ran 2 races at MIS in 1996.
10:47 “YOU BLEW IT!!!”
90s was the best
I pulled for Vasser
Mark Martin, Michael, Mika & Kimi, Colin McCrae, Andretti, Zanardi & Montoya, Kevin Scwantz, John Force
Lookin' back....Robby Gordon was a badass 1:59:30
Crowds like this will never return to Michigan even for NASCAR
Respect
@Greg Moore. There he had luck. In Fontana 3 years later Same Problem, but with a horrible end.
This was the Anti-Indy 500
iRacing’s graphics engine really has improved!
I think everyone would lose their shit if iRacing added a '90s IndyCar
@@dcdude345 C.A.R.T FURY!
@@dcdude345 - Forget iRenting, Automobilista 2 has just added a number of mid 90s Indycars and circuits. 👍
Well, if there is something good about that, I can watch it in 1080p, oh yeah 😁
Any negative feeling I'd had inside myself about CART for years was confirmed with a vengeance this day when I saw a farce of a start that under CART's ridiculous rules allowed a guy who'd crashed and should have been DONE for the day to restart a different car than the one he qualified in on the pole position and win, something you could *NEVER* do at Indy split or no split. Vasser's win is tainted on that basis alone for me.
If someone keeps making fun of you, the only way to stop them is to acknowledge their ammo, that way you take it away.
Anybody else come straight here after watching Slapshoes's "What is an IndyCar?" video? :D
Seeing interviews with 1996 Alex Zanardi sure does hit different in 2022.
11:13 Brian Herta upset LOL
So... "A rookie" is all they have to say about Eddie Lawson?
Yep, they never ever mentioned he was an absolute legendary motorcycle racer, having won the GP500 title and also other huge races like the Suzuka 8h
Fans in the stands
Anyone here from the Crapwagon (CART) or Trackforum (IRL) boards?
2:24:51 FIRED
The start was probably the craziest start in the race history
If not the craziest, one of the craziests, as we have the big one in 1998 F1 Belgian GP, and that was bizarre as well 🤣