I remember going to this game as a 13 year old. I stood on the hand bar at the back of the northbank. by the stairs. It was rammed solid. I'm not embarrassed to say it but I cried my eyes out, and had a lump in my throat. I had never and had not since ever felt like that at west ham. the sheer emotions of a packed Boleyn.
You are quite right mate, the Irons cost United the title by drawing with them at Upton Park. That draw gave Blackburn the title. If i recall correctly ''Big Ludo'' had a tremendous game between the sticks!
I remember in the 80s a penalty king and yes it was Stewart. I also remember a great penalty stopper also Cooper-Ipswich could save them for fun. Those were the days eh! Paul Cooper the penalty king also. Cooper saved 2 penaltys in 1 game against Derby i think lol.
13th March, 199, Chelsea were going for the title and eventually finished 4 points behind winners, Man Utd, and West Ham assisted Utd with a late goal from Di Canio in a shock 1-0 win at the bridge! I remember it well and it was the Hammers who cost Chelsea the league! I think that Chelsea were even on top before kick off! Good old days!
Pity that the tigers were no match for United! Hammers forced Liverpool to a replay and were 1-0 in front! Could any second division team do that today? After the Russian pulls out, I'll probably have to given those down at the Kings Road another couple of quid! I recall Chelsea versus Oxford getting a crowd below 5,000 in about 1985? At West Ham, we get more than that on the train!
@gemsdiamond2002 You never cost us the title, di canio scored in the second to last game in 2002/2003 which was a winner. Proved insignificant actually as we still got the 4th spot we wanted to qualify for the champions league and you still got relegated! win win :-)
"There didn't look to be any hint of a foul there, Nevin just fell over." Back then that was true, no foul, normally, but that contact would have made Mohamed Salah's heart stop from shock, and VAR would have ordered the defender to be shot at dawn for the mindless violence.
@cfcsteve86 Hammers won the Intertoto cup in 1999, made the F.A. Cup semi in 1991 and other numerous quarter finals! Hammers beat Liverpool, then league Champs, 4-1 in league cup fourth round of 1988. With all the past success, we're not that far behind both Arsenal and Spurs! As for Chelsea, done nothing in 1980's and won a defunct cup in 1990's- BOUGHT IT! Academy players: Moore and rest, but, what would u have done without lampard and all those goals!
Hammers won the F.A. Cup and were in Division two the following season. They also got to the League Cup Final and took Liverpool- Euro champs- to a replay, all while in Division two! We didnt need megabucks to do that! In 1989, I even gave a quid into the save the bridge appeal, so u should be thanking me!
Just noticed that Dixon played in this game! I once saw him in a betting shop at Tottenham Court Road, in 1999. He was with a bird about my age then, 25, and was losing hundreds! We both put down out betting slips, his for over 100 and mine for 2 quid, then the cashier picked one up and asked whose it was? The money was sat beside his and my 2 quid next to mine; the look he gave me was as if I hadn't taken a bath for 6 months! I always think of a horse called Bond Boy, a 100 bet, finished 100th!
You must be watching the wrong game! Chelsea luckily won at the Boleyn during our 1986 third place finish and I mean LUCKY! Chelsea were pretty shit during the 1980s, but I do recall a 1-1 draw with a Chelsea reserve keeper being used- Steve Francis, i think.
@empireforever Yeah that because they're like every other mornas who believe that Chelsea had no fans pre abramovich, yet you always see many thousands of Chelsea fans week in week out pre abramovich.
The Di Canio goal that I'm talking about was in around 1999, so CHELSEA FAN, go and check ur record books! As a real Hammers fan, I remember everything that happens to us! Maybe, ur too young to recall 1999! The game was at the bridge!
Look, West Ham have good, solid and broadly local support. Chelsea have similar and loads of extras that can be pulled out for big occasions. I really think you're on a weird one with the 'West Ham are bigger' thing though. Chelsea are number 5 in all time average attendances (only below much more successful clubs United, Liverpool. Arsenal and Spurs). Yes we had shite attendances in the 80s and 90s, but the Bridge was simply not a place for the non-hardcore. It was a dangerous, crumbling dump.
i stayd away new there was trouble brewing chelsea had best away support then massive take 7.000// fans away filled arsenal clock end and of course took north bank...afc great day
Quarter final and semi final plus loseing in a league cup final is big success acording to mr west he remembers it all well lol. Anyway chelsea have won nothing in the past 30 yrs lol.
@cfcsteve86 A bit unfair showing results like 5-3 and 4-0 away, as i remember attending a home match where Steve Francis replaced the regular keeper! Chelsea scored from a free kick and got a 1-1 draw, but Chelsea were completely shit before the money rolled in! Remember Scarborough, it still makes me laugh!
@cfcsteve86 Remember Di Caneo scoring that goal in around 200, that cost Chelsea the title or something? We've been ur guvners for years! Now, Chelsea are a foreign team! You might as well be watching Ghana or benfica!
That was Di Canio that was Paul Kitson. You never cost uis the title at that moment it wasn't mathematically impossible for us at that time so you did nothing like that. Beside atleast we've challenged for the title.
Kitson, so what, but I remember the match- it was on a Sunday! It shows that u had to look it up and that and that u dont know much about the club history either! That match up at the Bridge was 9, yes 9, games before the end of the season! I remember, that it was a big shock at the time! Just like Swansea cost Man City the league, hammers cost Chelsea, mega bucks, team the title that year!
Did I mention the World Cup in 1966? No ... I left school in 1982 so yes I can remember the support being sh*t but after a bit of digging was surprised to see exactly how sh*t it truly was ...
@cfcsteve86 Which players won the World Cup and Chelsea won the league during the Matthew's era! Didn't the great Hammers manager, Ron Greenwood, play in Chelsea's 1950's championship winning side? Another Hammers assist! Money went into Chelsea way before the Russian's ownership and do you remember the "Save the Bridge" appeal? The only good side Chelsea had was in 1970, but West Ham won cups in every era from 1960's! Were're just about to win another championship, come on Napoli!
@cfcsteve86 chelsea average attendances= 1994 19.211 1993 18.754 1992 18.780 1991 20.906 1990 21.783 1989 15.957 1988 20.118 1987 17.694 There were No chelsea at west ham most of 70's early eighties cause mile end would meet em in south bank so they stopped turning up. Till segregation came in,and got run out of the shed every season till OB prevented west ham getting in
West Ham have cost many teams the title! Man Utd was in about 1991 when Leeds won it. Blackburn won it in 1994, I think, and I dont know if we stopped Liverpool. In 1999, we beat Chelsea, who were heading for title and looked unbeatable! I remember our win very well. We took 3 points and they began to lose games! Take it as gospel, that they would have won league then if it wasn't for West ham!
@luckenbachtx So says a fan of a club who won 3 fa cups, 1 charity shield and a cup winners cup. Compared to pre Abramovich we had 1 league title, 3 fa cups, 2 league cups, 2 charity shields, 2 cup winners cups and a european super cup. You will find that you are the shit club with no history. Liverpool can back themselvs up with this but West ham can't.
The main aim of my reply was to answer your ridiculous statement of CFC always being bigger .... Truly truly a silly thing to say and the figures prove it
How on earth do the figures 'prove' it'? You must be out of your mind. Have you actually checked any? First club in England ever to average 40K? Chelsea (W. Ham have never averaged 40K, not ever). 10 times best supported club in the country. Chelsea. West Ham? Never. Best supported club in the country before WWII. Chelsea. West Ham not in the top 10, probably not in the top 20. Sure we had some very bad years between 1980 and 1992 but who didn't. The thing is we were good before that (way better than W. Ham) and have been good since. Anyone with an ounce of brain can see that as the unusual part of our history and not the norm. You need to put it into context which was the lowest point in our history coinciding with the lowest point in football attendances in England since before WWI. Add to the that the worst ground (for atmosphere and views) to watch football in England bar none. Those aren't excuses that's called context. None of the other so called big clubs sank as low as we did during that time. Had they done so we probably would have seen similar attendances. Villa got 15k in 1986 four years after winning the European Cup, Everton 19k in 1984, Spurs 20k in 1986. These clubs were actually winning stuff (or had hoped of winning) and in decent grounds.
@cfcsteve86 Chelsea spent fortunes when Vialli was manager and all they showed for this was a de-valued Cup Winners Cup; later defunct! They bought the league, can't anyone do this? When the Russian leaves, Chelsea will be another Portsmouth and probably merge with Fulham!
The russian is still here barry bullshit west ham. Your comments are ageing badly. Didnt west ham win the cup winners cup? You know that cup mr west says is de funked.
You need to check a few things ........... never in our history have west ham played a top tier game at anything less than 90% capacity in fact in any division. Unlike CFC who before Abramovich reqgularly played at 50% capacity or less at SB even getting to a cup final in 1994 average attendances for home games was less than 20k (45% capacity) always been bigger my ar*e ...... in 1983 just over 12.5k was the average (25% capacity) ... check your facts first rentboy !!!
"never in our history have west ham played a top tier game at anything less than 90% capacity in fact in any division" Claret and blue tinted spectacles here and not borne out by the facts. I suggest you check out the European Football Statistics site. You'll see there how poor your support has always been. Your average attendances were mostly between 80% to 60% capacity so individual games would obviously have been lower than that. www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm Chelsea had the highest average attendance in England pre WWII (the only club to average over 30k for that period), were the first club to average 30k and then 40k for a season and were 10 times the best supported team in the league (twice while in Div 2 and once despite being relegated that season). West Ham? First 30k average season was 1969. Yeah you had some better attendances for a time in the 80s but you were relatively more successful in that period. We hit our nadir at the same time as football attendances were at their lowest.
Obviously you "knew" that off the top of your head......... if thats your idea of something to brag about good for you. But i never remember saying we had great fans or any such thing. I know i pointed out we have better history pre abramovich then west ham which is true. It wouldn't be hard your idea of success is thinking you won england world cup and its pathetic.
I really don't understand this willy waving in all honesty. I only don't understand why no-one pulled out the shit attendances before RA showed up though - if you check our average gates the season before they're the same, and the rose because of a) (yes it's true) better football c) less hooliganism, overt racist chanting etc and crucially c) a better, safer ground. All clubs that claim to have staunch support have has awful gates, from Newcastle, City, Liverpool and Arsenal. That's it really.
Still come up with the same boring rubbish? yeah i know all about having a car park behind the goal doesn't make the football any different. We're called plastic by a supporter of a club who claim they have great fans yet only ever sing when winning and a club who "supposedly" have history yet won less the a club who apparently have no history before abramovic. I'm not dillusional i know we are no like Man United or Liverpool but we have and always will be bigger then west ham.
1981 for starters. Chelsea took a huge mob over there. Kicked off inside and outside the stadium with thousands of both clubs fans locked out. Chelsea and West Ham didn't meet again until 84/85, when there were clashes near the Barking Road as well as Parsons Green and Victoria that season.
Yet again you spout on about stuff you weren't even present at and mug yourself off. Stick to Spurs will ya? You yourself admit that at first you had no initial affiliation with Spurs and it was more about standing up for your manor, hence you were ignorant of the rivalry with Chelsea. Any died in the wool Spurs fan back then would have at least known of Chelsea's mob tearing into the Park Lane mob in '67. Fucking hilarious how you call Chelsea support 'out of London' when Stamford Bridge makes WHL look bloody suburban and in truth, it is suburban being nearer the North fucking Circular Road than Central London. So you got it hopelessly wrong about Chelsea not showing at UP then have the nerve to come back with more bollarks about SB in 84/85. The latest in line of guff you've read in some hoolie book. There was no clashes in the West Stand or the East Stand. I was in 'the benches' that front the West Stand. Towards the end of the game, a small mob of ICF left early and were possibly joined by others who had not been in the ground at all and went in through the Bovril Entrance as the gates were now open towards the end of the match. They came out under the tea bar and caused initial confusion. It didn't last long and they got the same treatment as Millwall got when the fighters got their act together and got over to them. They got backed out down onto Fulham Road only to find another Chelsea who had left The Shed and run around via the main entrance. They got fucking pasted any never tried that trick again. So much for the 'annihilated' fairy stories then. I was also at Victoria after the UP match in a huge mob that came out of St. James Park Sta to turn the tables on them as we knew they had gone back West to try and ambush returning Chelsea there. West Ham claim they ran from plod and it's their usual bullshit. They were a top firm but their pride and notoriety wont allow them to admit when they had to back off or leg it. And they were on their toes that afternoon, jumping the railings into Grosvenor Gardens when Chelsea were coming at them down Victoria Street and another tidy firm who had gone down Caxton Street arriving from another direction. One of their younger faces later got a slap from one of their top boys for embarrassing them on a documentary that was covered that day because he admitted he lost his bottle as it was coming down on them. Yeah, Chelsea Smile, Glasgow Smile. it can relate to victims or those dishing it out. Like I say, stick to what you know about, ie. your own club instead of trying to tell me, somebody who was actually there, what happened.
I remember going to this game as a 13 year old. I stood on the hand bar at the back of the northbank. by the stairs. It was rammed solid. I'm not embarrassed to say it but I cried my eyes out, and had a lump in my throat. I had never and had not since ever felt like that at west ham. the sheer emotions of a packed Boleyn.
I travelled down from warrington for that game.great day.loved that era.COYI
I don't think I've seen a better penalty taker than Ray Stewart
TONKER
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@@MartinParnham Agreed. And Let Tiss was great too
Always kick hard straight.
That was my first ever West Ham game that I went to, age 13....... Wow
Thanks for sharing...
I remember this match, I was there! Never forgot this one!
It's a shame they don't show the bloke who runs on the pitch after the 5th goal and does a head over heels. Great game.
You are quite right mate, the Irons cost United the title by drawing with them at Upton Park. That draw gave Blackburn the title. If i recall correctly ''Big Ludo'' had a tremendous game between the sticks!
I remember thinking that Kenny Dagleish should have sent Ludo a bottle of bubbly.
Damn right I'm proud of our support no matter how god bad or indifferent we are always there ....
A great game, very happy memories indeed
I remember in the 80s a penalty king and yes it was Stewart. I also remember a great penalty stopper also Cooper-Ipswich could save them for fun. Those were the days eh! Paul Cooper the penalty king also. Cooper saved 2 penaltys in 1 game against Derby i think lol.
Paul Cooper
@@josephyearwood1179 you remember him also bud. Penalty wizard lol.
@@andisadler2897 One of the newspapers put up a competition between Stewart and Cooper. Stewart won quite easily if I remember rightly.
@@CIMAmotor good stuff bro
13th March, 199, Chelsea were going for the title and eventually finished 4 points behind winners, Man Utd, and West Ham assisted Utd with a late goal from Di Canio in a shock 1-0 win at the bridge! I remember it well and it was the Hammers who cost Chelsea the league! I think that Chelsea were even on top before kick off! Good old days!
This was 85/86 season we finished 3rd
quality flick alan dickens leading up to 4-3. Ref had a bit of a mare
Pity that the tigers were no match for United! Hammers forced Liverpool to a replay and were 1-0 in front! Could any second division team do that today? After the Russian pulls out, I'll probably have to given those down at the Kings Road another couple of quid! I recall Chelsea versus Oxford getting a crowd below 5,000 in about 1985? At West Ham, we get more than that on the train!
@gemsdiamond2002 You never cost us the title, di canio scored in the second to last game in 2002/2003 which was a winner. Proved insignificant actually as we still got the 4th spot we wanted to qualify for the champions league and you still got relegated! win win :-)
"There didn't look to be any hint of a foul there, Nevin just fell over." Back then that was true, no foul, normally, but that contact would have made Mohamed Salah's heart stop from shock, and VAR would have ordered the defender to be shot at dawn for the mindless violence.
@cfcsteve86 Hammers won the Intertoto cup in 1999, made the F.A. Cup semi in 1991 and other numerous quarter finals! Hammers beat Liverpool, then league Champs, 4-1 in league cup fourth round of 1988. With all the past success, we're not that far behind both Arsenal and Spurs! As for Chelsea, done nothing in 1980's and won a defunct cup in 1990's- BOUGHT IT! Academy players: Moore and rest, but, what would u have done without lampard and all those goals!
U should be a stand up comedian u clown.
Hammers won the F.A. Cup and were in Division two the following season. They also got to the League Cup Final and took Liverpool- Euro champs- to a replay, all while in Division two! We didnt need megabucks to do that! In 1989, I even gave a quid into the save the bridge appeal, so u should be thanking me!
Just noticed that Dixon played in this game! I once saw him in a betting shop at Tottenham Court Road, in 1999. He was with a bird about my age then, 25, and was losing hundreds! We both put down out betting slips, his for over 100 and mine for 2 quid, then the cashier picked one up and asked whose it was? The money was sat beside his and my 2 quid next to mine; the look he gave me was as if I hadn't taken a bath for 6 months! I always think of a horse called Bond Boy, a 100 bet, finished 100th!
wish we had cottee and macavennie upfront now!
Forgot to add, that I went to the game above! I was a regular throughout the 1980s!
Remember going # chelsea fan 😪💙
You must be watching the wrong game! Chelsea luckily won at the Boleyn during our 1986 third place finish and I mean LUCKY! Chelsea were pretty shit during the 1980s, but I do recall a 1-1 draw with a Chelsea reserve keeper being used- Steve Francis, i think.
yeah, i was at that game it stopped Hammers winning the league in a way. Chelsea were up there for most of the season though.
@empireforever Yeah that because they're like every other mornas who believe that Chelsea had no fans pre abramovich, yet you always see many thousands of Chelsea fans week in week out pre abramovich.
The Di Canio goal that I'm talking about was in around 1999, so CHELSEA FAN, go and check ur record books! As a real Hammers fan, I remember everything that happens to us! Maybe, ur too young to recall 1999! The game was at the bridge!
Look, West Ham have good, solid and broadly local support. Chelsea have similar and loads of extras that can be pulled out for big occasions. I really think you're on a weird one with the 'West Ham are bigger' thing though. Chelsea are number 5 in all time average attendances (only below much more successful clubs United, Liverpool. Arsenal and Spurs). Yes we had shite attendances in the 80s and 90s, but the Bridge was simply not a place for the non-hardcore. It was a dangerous, crumbling dump.
Absolutely mate, the aggro put loads off going in the 80's
@@CIMAmotor ye spot on an constant escorts etc plus most had had their fill n a bit of a void in support came about till the 90s
Traditional West Ham fans mostly from local, sadly not now.
@UnionOfJack Scored over 60 goals between them in one season!
@luckenbachtx So what has this got to do with you?
i stayd away new there was trouble brewing chelsea had best away support then massive take 7.000// fans away filled arsenal clock end and of course took north bank...afc great day
Well millwall got to an fa cup final doesn't mean they're big. Thanks for the £1.
Quarter final and semi final plus loseing in a league cup final is big success acording to mr west he remembers it all well lol. Anyway chelsea have won nothing in the past 30 yrs lol.
Pat Nevin ahead of his time by about 20 years with that dive in the box, the McChelsea wanker
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@cfcsteve86 A bit unfair showing results like 5-3 and 4-0 away, as i remember attending a home match where Steve Francis replaced the regular keeper! Chelsea scored from a free kick and got a 1-1 draw, but Chelsea were completely shit before the money rolled in! Remember Scarborough, it still makes me laugh!
@Demon 1 piss off Damon, and pull that blue flag out of your arse. Embarrassing rent boy.
@cfcsteve86 Remember Di Caneo scoring that goal in around 200, that cost Chelsea the title or something? We've been ur guvners for years! Now, Chelsea are a foreign team! You might as well be watching Ghana or benfica!
That was Di Canio that was Paul Kitson. You never cost uis the title at that moment it wasn't mathematically impossible for us at that time so you did nothing like that. Beside atleast we've challenged for the title.
before chelsea were in the money
Become Chelski.
Kitson, so what, but I remember the match- it was on a Sunday! It shows that u had to look it up and that and that u dont know much about the club history either! That match up at the Bridge was 9, yes 9, games before the end of the season! I remember, that it was a big shock at the time! Just like Swansea cost Man City the league, hammers cost Chelsea, mega bucks, team the title that year!
Did I mention the World Cup in 1966? No ... I left school in 1982 so yes I can remember the support being sh*t but after a bit of digging was surprised to see exactly how sh*t it truly was ...
@razer4660 That result cost the Hammers the league!
@cfcsteve86 Which players won the World Cup and Chelsea won the league during the Matthew's era! Didn't the great Hammers manager, Ron Greenwood, play in Chelsea's 1950's championship winning side? Another Hammers assist! Money went into Chelsea way before the Russian's ownership and do you remember the "Save the Bridge" appeal? The only good side Chelsea had was in 1970, but West Ham won cups in every era from 1960's! Were're just about to win another championship, come on Napoli!
In that time if you were a goalkeeper you must wear green.....
And referees wearing all blacks.
@cfcsteve86
chelsea average attendances=
1994 19.211
1993 18.754
1992 18.780
1991 20.906
1990 21.783
1989 15.957
1988 20.118
1987 17.694
There were No chelsea at west ham most of 70's early eighties cause mile end would meet em in south bank so they stopped turning up. Till segregation came in,and got run out of the shed every season till OB prevented west ham getting in
They turned up and had a decent go in 1980 (I think) but did get battered in the south bank, I remember the corner flags getting lobbed to and fro.
I remember it as a shit game apart from the goals! Really scrappy..
And how tight are Chelsea's shorts ffs.
West Ham have cost many teams the title! Man Utd was in about 1991 when Leeds won it. Blackburn won it in 1994, I think, and I dont know if we stopped Liverpool. In 1999, we beat Chelsea, who were heading for title and looked unbeatable! I remember our win very well. We took 3 points and they began to lose games! Take it as gospel, that they would have won league then if it wasn't for West ham!
and west ham reckon Chelsea never turn up at Upton Park
Yeah, big club the Hammers. Got their first 30K+ season average in 1969 and have never won the League! Big club my arse.
A big club needs to be stuck up your arse..lol.
Brilliant retort. Ignore the facts.
shut it paddy.
English mate, not a paddy, lol
Another great reply. Any of you lot want to deal with the facts?
Chelsea are a bigger club than West Ham, even back in the 70's and 80's but the gap was much smaller then.
@shakeyn16 You couldn't if you tried. No world class players would go to the shit end of london but love the rich end :-)
@luckenbachtx So says a fan of a club who won 3 fa cups, 1 charity shield and a cup winners cup. Compared to pre Abramovich we had 1 league title, 3 fa cups, 2 league cups, 2 charity shields, 2 cup winners cups and a european super cup. You will find that you are the shit club with no history. Liverpool can back themselvs up with this but West ham can't.
The main aim of my reply was to answer your ridiculous statement of CFC always being bigger .... Truly truly a silly thing to say and the figures prove it
How on earth do the figures 'prove' it'? You must be out of your mind. Have you actually checked any?
First club in England ever to average 40K? Chelsea (W. Ham have never averaged 40K, not ever).
10 times best supported club in the country. Chelsea. West Ham? Never.
Best supported club in the country before WWII. Chelsea. West Ham not in the top 10, probably not in the top 20.
Sure we had some very bad years between 1980 and 1992 but who didn't. The thing is we were good before that (way better than W. Ham) and have been good since. Anyone with an ounce of brain can see that as the unusual part of our history and not the norm.
You need to put it into context which was the lowest point in our history coinciding with the lowest point in football attendances in England since before WWI. Add to the that the worst ground (for atmosphere and views) to watch football in England bar none. Those aren't excuses that's called context.
None of the other so called big clubs sank as low as we did during that time. Had they done so we probably would have seen similar attendances. Villa got 15k in 1986 four years after winning the European Cup, Everton 19k in 1984, Spurs 20k in 1986. These clubs were actually winning stuff (or had hoped of winning) and in decent grounds.
@cfcsteve86 Chelsea spent fortunes when Vialli was manager and all they showed for this was a de-valued Cup Winners Cup; later defunct! They bought the league, can't anyone do this? When the Russian leaves, Chelsea will be another Portsmouth and probably merge with Fulham!
The russian is still here barry bullshit west ham. Your comments are ageing badly. Didnt west ham win the cup winners cup? You know that cup mr west says is de funked.
You need to check a few things ........... never in our history have west ham played a top tier game at anything less than 90% capacity in fact in any division. Unlike CFC who before Abramovich reqgularly played at 50% capacity or less at SB even getting to a cup final in 1994 average attendances for home games was less than 20k (45% capacity) always been bigger my ar*e ...... in 1983 just over 12.5k was the average (25% capacity) ... check your facts first rentboy !!!
"never in our history have west ham played a top tier game at anything less than 90% capacity in fact in any division"
Claret and blue tinted spectacles here and not borne out by the facts. I suggest you check out the European Football Statistics site. You'll see there how poor your support has always been. Your average attendances were mostly between 80% to 60% capacity so individual games would obviously have been lower than that.
www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
Chelsea had the highest average attendance in England pre WWII (the only club to average over 30k for that period), were the first club to average 30k and then 40k for a season and were 10 times the best supported team in the league (twice while in Div 2 and once despite being relegated that season).
West Ham? First 30k average season was 1969. Yeah you had some better attendances for a time in the 80s but you were relatively more successful in that period. We hit our nadir at the same time as football attendances were at their lowest.
Obviously you "knew" that off the top of your head......... if thats your idea of something to brag about good for you. But i never remember saying we had great fans or any such thing. I know i pointed out we have better history pre abramovich then west ham which is true. It wouldn't be hard your idea of success is thinking you won england world cup and its pathetic.
I really don't understand this willy waving in all honesty. I only don't understand why no-one pulled out the shit attendances before RA showed up though - if you check our average gates the season before they're the same, and the rose because of a) (yes it's true) better football c) less hooliganism, overt racist chanting etc and crucially c) a better, safer ground. All clubs that claim to have staunch support have has awful gates, from Newcastle, City, Liverpool and Arsenal. That's it really.
Still come up with the same boring rubbish? yeah i know all about having a car park behind the goal doesn't make the football any different. We're called plastic by a supporter of a club who claim they have great fans yet only ever sing when winning and a club who "supposedly" have history yet won less the a club who apparently have no history before abramovic. I'm not dillusional i know we are no like Man United or Liverpool but we have and always will be bigger then west ham.
CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's only boring rubbish to you because it's 100% fact
West ham boring
and west ham reckon Chelsea never turn up at Upton Park
1981 for starters. Chelsea took a huge mob over there. Kicked off inside and outside the stadium with thousands of both clubs fans locked out. Chelsea and West Ham didn't meet again until 84/85, when there were clashes near the Barking Road as well as Parsons Green and Victoria that season.
Yet again you spout on about stuff you weren't even present at and mug yourself off. Stick to Spurs will ya? You yourself admit that at first you had no initial affiliation with Spurs and it was more about standing up for your manor, hence you were ignorant of the rivalry with Chelsea. Any died in the wool Spurs fan back then would have at least known of Chelsea's mob tearing into the Park Lane mob in '67. Fucking hilarious how you call Chelsea support 'out of London' when Stamford Bridge makes WHL look bloody suburban and in truth, it is suburban being nearer the North fucking Circular Road than Central London. So you got it hopelessly wrong about Chelsea not showing at UP then have the nerve to come back with more bollarks about SB in 84/85. The latest in line of guff you've read in some hoolie book. There was no clashes in the West Stand or the East Stand. I was in 'the benches' that front the West Stand. Towards the end of the game, a small mob of ICF left early and were possibly joined by others who had not been in the ground at all and went in through the Bovril Entrance as the gates were now open towards the end of the match. They came out under the tea bar and caused initial confusion. It didn't last long and they got the same treatment as Millwall got when the fighters got their act together and got over to them. They got backed out down onto Fulham Road only to find another Chelsea who had left The Shed and run around via the main entrance. They got fucking pasted any never tried that trick again. So much for the 'annihilated' fairy stories then. I was also at Victoria after the UP match in a huge mob that came out of St. James Park Sta to turn the tables on them as we knew they had gone back West to try and ambush returning Chelsea there. West Ham claim they ran from plod and it's their usual bullshit. They were a top firm but their pride and notoriety wont allow them to admit when they had to back off or leg it. And they were on their toes that afternoon, jumping the railings into Grosvenor Gardens when Chelsea were coming at them down Victoria Street and another tidy firm who had gone down Caxton Street arriving from another direction. One of their younger faces later got a slap from one of their top boys for embarrassing them on a documentary that was covered that day because he admitted he lost his bottle as it was coming down on them. Yeah, Chelsea Smile, Glasgow Smile. it can relate to victims or those dishing it out. Like I say, stick to what you know about, ie. your own club instead of trying to tell me, somebody who was actually there, what happened.